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do you think the system has scared
people or has Trump himself scared
people he has now seen the evil of the
Democrat Party and we're watching the
evil of the Democrat Party burst forth
right now in everything that's going on
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something Dave Ruben welcome back to the
show Tom it's good to be with you I got
to tell you I have seen a lot of
operations I I'm OG podcaster over here
I've built a couple studios in my
day you're doing all right man thank you
sir we definitely is quite an operation
you have going on over here pretty cool
I'm I'm excited to see how far we can
take it for sure uh this is the Batcave
right like somewhere there's a Batman
thing you are Batman is that what's
happening here obviously obviously I
don't usually talk about that on camera
but yes I just blew your spot now yeah
it's fine that's how it all ends for
Batman going on a podcast Bruce Wayne
like yeah I'm Batman well what can I do
yeah I suppose if I really were Batman I
never would have owned it so alas alas
but trying to help my boy out by
throwing people off the scent you see
clever clever I thought so yeah let me
ask yeah Biden has just announced that
despite his performance in the debate he
is going to be the 2024 nominee
what happens if Biden wins what happens
if Biden wins wow do you want to jump
right to that or should we talk a little
bit about his mental state first like
truly that's part of your answer give it
to me well I I would say it's it's
obvious to everyone everyone watching
this listening to this everyone in this
country everyone in the world that pays
any remote attention to politics it is
obvious to them that he has been
degraded
cognitively very significantly I think
what maybe wasn't obvious to people was
how significantly he was degraded but it
was obvious even five years ago what's
interesting that has happened in the
last say 10 days post debate is that the
machine the system The Matrix whatever
you want to call it it can no longer
control the narrative as it relates to
Biden so for years literally before he
was president when he was on the
campaign Trail and even when he was VP
the slips were starting to happen the
flubs the confusions the slurring all of
that was happening
and by the way we should all have
sympathy I think it goes without saying
but I always think it's worth saying at
least once in an interview we should
have sympathy for anyone dealing with
all of these things everyone will either
be hit by it personally or have a
grandparent or parent or somebody that
they love will be hit by this I had two
grandmothers that both had dementia one
into Alzheimer's at the end one of whom
uh because I was doing standup in New
York so I was only working at night I
was spending a lot of time with her
during the day going to the doctor so
I've been around a lot of this a lot of
the stiffness that he has like you know
there's just there's a lot there that
anyone and I'm obviously not a doctor
can see and something is not right what
happened at that debate was that for all
of the ways the media can lie about it
or confuse you or play the shell game
just get you to look at something else
while he's kind of falling apart it was
so obvious to everyone watching that
split screen not just the confusions you
know there was that moment about six or
seven minutes into the debate where he
just completely lost his train of
thought and he flubbed out that sentence
and Jake Tapper kind of saved him and
everyone watching was thinking the same
thing like holy cow how bad is this
going to be for the next hour and a half
and then for an hour and a half we
watched a split screen of you know his
jaw gape the confusion the sort of blank
look in his eyes everything else the
point the reason that I'm reiterating
all that is that it was so obvious to
everyone that they could not hold in the
lie anymore so that's why immediately
the debate ends CNN MSNBC Fox every
online pundit or whatever we all are
everybody was saying the same thing like
there's just no doubt about this now I
think one of the ways the system has
worked over the years is that it's able
to launder the lies to kind of slow down
the lies so for example you know very
fine people on both sides that Donald
Trump went to Charlottesville and saw
the protesters and said they're very
fine people on both sides somehow
meaning that they that the white
supremacists were very fine people and
that the other people there were very
fine no Donald Trump said the next
sentence which was I'm not talking about
the neo-nazis or the white supremacists
blah blah blah but the system allowed
that lie to exist for years right the
system allowed the lies of covid to
exist for years the system allowed the
lies of Brett Kavanaugh a serial rapist
to exist for years it let the lies of
the Covington kids are racists Jesse
Smet was going to be was was lynched all
of these things but what happened that
night is something that very rarely
happens that the truth was so freaking
obvious to everyone in real time the
system didn't know how to lie about it
and that's why all these pundits that
have no problem lying the Joe Scarboro
all of these people that are in essence
paid to lie at these corporate news
organizations they simply did not know
what to do so now what has burst forth
is that we're watching A system that is
completely in flux right now because it
really it genuinely I believe is as out
of control as it seems right now he now
for whatever's left in his brain or
whether it's Jill Biden running it or
it's you know Barack Obama behind the
scenes whatever he is running his own
operation to see if they can push him
over the Finish Line Cala has her own
agenda um the media has their own agenda
they have to cover their tracks for the
obvious lies that they've been doing
over the last couple years so anyone
literally anyone that you could have in
this chair that you asked that question
to or asked to make the prediction of
what will happen or how this is going to
happen or what would that second term
look like has has genuinely no idea
because by the time I finish this
sentence he could be incapacitated we
have no idea well I'll ask you a
question do I mean do you honestly
believe he has been running this
Administration do you think he has been
functioning as the chief executive for
the last four years to me the answer is
very obviously no and in a weird way I
would say he is the ultimate Avatar of
what a deep state or managerial class
would want you'd want sort of a mind
muddled 50e career politician to just be
in there and just keep the show going
and that's why I thought that uh Barack
Obama's Tweet about it two or three days
later was so insanely ridiculous where
he was like you know everyone has a bad
day but Joe Biden's in charge and blah
it's like Barack Obama you came in with
hope and change and here you are running
cover for a man that we know is cognitiv
cognitively declined who's a 50-year uh
politician like that is not hope and
change but let me throw the question
back to you because I occasionally host
a podcast do do you think he's been
running the show because that's what I
think is the main issue that we all to
sort out Beyond whether he's a complete
vegetable or not like who's running the
show and I just don't know I mean Pro
probably Obama is but I don't know uh I
don't think that he is and I wonder how
much ability a president has to actually
run the country so I man I just can't we
were discussing this before we started
rolling I have come to looking at
politics carrying in about politics so
late in my life so I have a very
different view upon this which is I'm
obsessed with getting people to
understand that everything has utility
or a lack of utility why does that
matter so I look at everything through
the lens of um an entrepreneur so you
have a goal you know where you're trying
to get to and then you say what's going
to be the thing that gets me there the
idea the policy the whatever and then
you try it and you see if it shows signs
through a measurable metric of whether
or not it's moving you towards that so
when I look at this the question I ask
myself is why does the public want a
president that is I think you said brain
muddled um why would they want that so
when I look at it I feel like an alien
watching a a civilization that that I
just don't quite yet understand I'm not
even saying that my way is the right way
I'm just saying it feels very confusing
to me
so I would love an answer to that
question why do you think the American
public some percentage seemingly close
to half would consider voting for
somebody who is muddled okay so that I
can answer a little more clearly because
I think there's a very clear answer to
it which is that whatever percentage of
people are going to vote for Joe Biden
let's just assume he's the nominee by
come November which by the way I think
is
5050 at best at best I mean they're
trying to figure out how to get him out
everyone understands that now he may
just not leave um why does a certain
amount of people want that the answer to
that is well first off we have a fake
binary Choice it's like it's very
obvious that what should be happening in
this country 20 years post social media
and sort of a flourishing internet and
how much the world has changed you know
since World War II it should not be two
guys who are basically 80 who came from
a different world it should actually we
mentioned it right before we started we
have like three months between us we're
both 48 um it should be someone about
our age roughly it should be a Gen X
person someone that actually came before
the internet grew up before the internet
remembers that world has now become an
adult in that let's say last two decades
still is young enough to be strong
enough and and have our faculties enough
and our body to be out there fighting
have all sorts of other reasons to be
fighting for the future because we're
going to be part of it as a to being
geriatric people and I say that as
someone that is definitely voting for
Trump and largely likes Trump I don't
like all of his behaviors I was for
disantis in the primary so I can
criticize him too obviously U but if you
only have a binary choice if a system
exists that just gives you these two
that that's where we're at we may not
like that we may want to change that
okay fine but if the system only gives
you these two and now you see one guy
who's completely broken mentally I mean
at to the point where he really can't
say a full sentence anymore I don't know
if you saw the interview with George
Stephanopoulos but but they did that as
a softball to him like dude can you just
for 22 minutes say anything remotely
saying and he can't he really cannot
well what do you do then if you if you
take a guy he's mind muddled and then if
you just quickly if we were to look at
the policies has immigration been good
well about 7 to 10 some people are
saying 12 million illegals have come in
under him so I think you can objectively
say that's not good interest rates
inflation not good I always say the only
things I think I mentioned this to you
when you were on my show the only two
things that I really cuz I'm not an
economics guy per se that I really look
at in terms of economics are when you go
to the grocery store are things just
exploding in price or are they kind of
where you think they're supposed to be
well if you look at a pound of beef that
used to be like 5.99 now it's 9.99 or
$199 it's all trash why are people
voting for him there's something I'll
get to it I'll get to it so I just
wanted to run through a couple of the
bad things so if we're let's and and
interest rates are the other ones and
those are very high right now so okay so
now I'll answer your question the answer
is if you can scare the hell out of half
the people about the other guy that's
why they'll vote for the guy who is
completely mind muddled that's it and
that's all they've been running on there
is no positive message coming from the
Democrats right now that Joe Biden
81-year-old Joe Biden has the
wherewithal and the policies to fix
things he has largely you like outcomes
well unless your intention was to
destroy the country why else would you
allow 7 to 10 million people in the
country in three years we can have an
honest debate about immigration and
maybe we would agree largely maybe we
wouldn't it would I'd be happy to have
that conversation but no one in their
right mind in the history of the world
ever thought you create a nation state
and then you just say to everybody come
on in let's see what happens especially
in a time when we have political Strife
post October 7th like there's a lot of
weird energy in the system right now you
might want to know who's in your country
so if your if your result if the result
you wanted to get was to large hamper
the United States you might Usher in all
of the policies that he has so the
direct answer to your question is why
would people vote for it because the
system has scared them about the guy
that's actually trying I would say
largely to save the system that has
offered more more uh opportunity for 350
million Americans that live in this
country and all of our predecessors in
250 years it's incredible and and scary
and wild and nuts do you think the
system has scared people or has Trump
himself scared
people well it's a little bit of both
look it's a little bit of both in that
he speaks Loosely by the way he's gotten
a lot better if you noticed during the
debate he was extremely measured and
controlled never interrupt your enemy
while they're destroying themselves his
answer on abortion uh and I always
consider myself begrudgingly pro-choice
I want it to be safe and rare which by
the way was the Democrat position always
for for decades and decades
unfortunately the Democrat position has
largely become eight-month abortions are
fine I mean we're in California where
there's you know in essence no limits on
abortion Trump gave the most thoughtful
answer a five minute answer on abortion
that I thought was the most honest
thoughtful thing he has ever said it was
clear it was cogent he even acknowledged
that it might not be safe electorally
what he's saying because it would get
some of his own base upset meaning that
he is not for a national ban or anything
else
um it's a little bit of both with Trump
so he's done some of the exaggerations
he he's cuddled some weird people he's
done all of that stuff
but if you just look at the results and
again you're a results guy if you just
look at the results of trump and let's
just do it till Co and then we can talk
about Co if you want but if you just
look at basically the two years of the
Trump presidency before covid the
economy was seriously Sharp As Trump
said at the State of the Union we had
lowest alltime black unemployment and
Latino unemployment and the
Congressional Black Caucus if you
remember AOC and the rest of them sat
there like this when he said that um we
had the Abraham Accord seven peace deals
signed in the Middle East and Saudi
Arabia was about to happen too um the
world was pretty good Putin did not go
into Ukraine there there was an order to
the to the world because of a strong
America now we look did Co just change
everything obviously and did he get
rolled in many ways by the Deep State
and he you know his own base has to
Grapple with the fact that they hate the
the vaccine and he pushed warp speed and
he allowed fouchy to do a lot of stuff
and all of those things I think they've
largely forgave him for that I think it
would would be worth always remembering
it so it doesn't happen again if he
becomes president um but you could
probably argue it a little bit of both
ways has the SST you know he's not a
racist he's not a racist he's not the
new Republic has a issue out this week
where they have him as Hitler you know
basically with the Hitler mustache and
everything and it's like his daughter
converted to Judaism to marry Jared
Kushner and he has three Jewish uh
grandchildren who all go to Jewish Day
School like he's not Hitler he does not
hate black people he does does not hate
people based on the color of their skin
I think largely what he represents he
represents the the individual in a
system that is
mostly Collective and what does the
collective hate the most the individual
so that that really is what the fight is
sort of politically at the moment I
would say what do you think about and
that's not to dismiss some of the the
errors in speaking let's say or the
exaggerations or any of those things
obviously yeah I I have a feeling that
Trump creates the uh atmosphere in which
he can be turned into a weapon with
which he can be bludgeoned himself so
yes he's not winning an award for
discipline but again he's it's gotten
would you would you agree that it
seemingly has gotten much better in the
last couple months yes the the debate to
me went like this uh so one I was at an
RFK event in the audience there so was
very interesting so I saw it as if it
were a debate with people really
brilliant uh and so so I'm I'm watching
Biden and I have just this mix of
emotions same as you where I'm very sad
that this is happening to any human my
wife's grandmother uh had dementia that
was brutal to watch um so all those
emotions mixed with this sense of when I
was a teenager I I just could not have
been more America's amazing it made me
feel like I could do anything I did not
grow up with money but it made me
believe that I could go anywhere do
anything um I heard you once say if
you're a gen xer the following statement
will ring true and when you said it it
rang true to me it just wasn't cool to
be racist like nobody you didn't think
about it it was just very much like my
mom from the time I was born was like
spouting Martin Luther King Jr so that's
just the the vibe that we grew up with
or hate gays or any of that we we
actually were there we really were so
watching the debate I was like okay hold
on a second where where is all the hope
the excit the vision for America that
will make people today feel the way that
I felt as a teenager like hey you can do
this here is the path this is what you
need to go do that was a thing that was
missing for me from both Biden and Trump
trump was disciplined and so it was yeah
like watching a kid who is historically
throwing temper tantrums like actually
keep it rained in and I was like hey
well done Donnie you're learning like
that was you know from that perspective
very sweet uh but with RFK at least that
was he has a message which was like this
is the America we want to get back to I
want people to feel inspired I want them
to understand how to go forward I want
them to see how my policies are going to
make their life better anyway that
resonated way more with me now do you
think that RFK is mathematically
electable or is this just like a Ross
perau haha funny thing that we'll
remember in 20 years well it's funny
because Ross Pro for as haha as it was
and I remember it well at the time and
watching those debates and that moment
with what was his name Walter Stockdale
was his VP and he gets up there and he's
like none of you know me or should know
me like there were some funny weird
things happening back then but the guy
got what 16% of the vote and in essence
caused Bill Clinton to win so uh for as
silly as that whole thing was there was
really something there and he was
echoing a lot of the things that
ultimately Ron Paul ended up echoing and
things that Trump ended up echoing and
everything else first let me just say I
really personally like RFK I've
interviewed him a couple times we've
done public events together we've had
private meals together he's met my
family he is a he is a good decent nice
man he loves this country I don't agree
with him on all the policies even when
I've interviewed him where we've debated
some of the things like he was not for
the Supreme Court decision that reversed
affirmative action at colleges and we
got into it and I have to give him
credit after about seven minutes of kind
of going back and forth totally
respectfully he kind of more came around
to my position which obviously in a
debate I'm happy to see but in another
way I saw as a little bit of a weakness
because I was like you should have
thought that through before you're
talking to somebody about it you know in
essence that you don't solve past
discrimination or past perceived
discrimination with current
discrimination I don't want to
discriminate against an Asian kid who
studies hard uh just because someone
else was discriminated against it just
that will only that will only perpetuate
racism but he kind of came around on
that which was again I think it was nice
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let me let me push on that for a second
so is is that what you think is
necessary to be elected to have fully
formed thoughts or you actually don't
like it when a candidate doesn't have
fully formed thoughts um that one I
thought was it was so obvious to me I
would say if you truly believe in the
classically liberal values that I
believe he believes that are that are so
associated with his family name it would
be a very obvious one to me that that
you cannot solve discrimination with
discrimination that you would never want
Harvard to be looking at all of the uh
all of the applications they got and be
like okay we have to have these quotas
we used to all agree quotas are bad but
certainly and it was particularly
against Asian students but it was
against Jewish students too and it was
also against white students you but
Asians
particularly you would not want so some
kid why would you punish a kid in
essence a 16-year-old kid whose parents
first or second generation maybe owned a
Bodega or something as a lot of them did
where I grew up in Long Island why would
you punish that kid because his parents
came to America worked really hard
taught him the right things instead of
going to summer camp he went to math
class and now you're going to punish him
guess what you're going to do you're
going to make him racist how do you
think he will feel now he gets into a
lesser school he says he sees someone
with lesser grades get into that school
based on the color of their skin now
they're both 25 the other guy by the way
he also got a mortgage at a better rate
because of it because Dei then got built
into all of the systems you're going to
create a a level of racism in the future
that again that our generation had
largely eliminated so it's not that I
needed him to agree with me on that if
his principle was just like you know
what discrimination was so horrible in
the past and we have to just we have to
discriminate in essence to to move
forward I would disagree but I would be
like all right he fully thought it
through what I thought was interesting
and again I really like the guy so I
don't I don't even like saying this in a
certain do you like him for president or
do you just like him as a guy I think I
don't think president would be the best
position what I would love to see him do
actually would be that Trump would
become president and he could become uh
I don't know it would be attorney
general but he would basically be Zar of
destroying the agencies he he should be
the one that goes in and blows apart the
CDC and blows apart the NIH and maybe
even things that he holds closely like
you know the uh EPA things like that
like all of the deep State all of the
the Eternal State stuff I don't the CIA
CIA too I mean he's got some issues with
the CIA but if any right so if anyone
was going to go in and and knows these
systems and has has lived through these
systems I think he would be unbelievably
good at that does he have the right
temperament to work with Trump or does
Trump have the right temperament to
actually select him who knows um I I
would say this if he was if it was not
Joe Biden right now and it was and it
was Kennedy who by the way was running
as a Democrat at the beginning and you
know the first day he announced I said
it on my show can find it I said he will
not be a republican by the end of this
thing but he will not be a Democrat I
promise you that and I even said that to
his face and he was like I should have
known that he has now seen the evil of
the Democrat Party and we're watching
the evil of the Democrat Party burst
forth right now and everything that's
going on with Joe Biden name the
evil the evil I would say the simplest
way to Bumper stick it would be
something like it will do anything to
attain and retain power
period And I would contrast that with
the Republican Party who by the way you
know it's I always say it's like the
giant made from Space Balls the
Republicans blow and the cons and the
Democrats suck but like the Republican
or Peter teal has a great line on this
he always says we have a stupid party
and an evil party the evil party has
become the Democrats and the Republicans
are just kind of stupid but stupid you
can work with the Republicans when Trump
was the Insurgent in 2015 and everybody
was like he's racist he's a white
supremacist when that thing was really
on steroids the Republicans had a
primary process nobody in the party did
anything to stop Trump or change rules
or anything else remember it could have
been Marco Rubio it could have been uh
Ted Cruz it could have been Mike
Huckabee but they just ran their primary
properly and it was shocking to the
party Elite the bushes it was shocking
to all of the people that were you know
the Romney types and all of that but
they just ran their thing and Trump won
and they played their game fair and
square the Democrats don't do that ask
Bernie Sanders that same year how it
went when he went against Hillary they
made sure the superdelegates and
everybody else their deals to cut Bernie
at the hip now I I despise Bernie and
and the Socialist ideas that he's
ushered in and the fact that he's made
it seem like being that jealousy as a
virtue and all of the the bad ideas of
collectivism and all of that that Bernie
ushered in but he did that through the
Democrat Party and they showed him what
they care about and they care about
power and I think what what you're
seeing right now because the lies of
what's going on in Biden's mind can't be
covered up right now because it's so
damn obvious and the system hasn't
figured out a way to to respond to to it
yet um you're seeing a party that that
there is nothing they won't do to retain
power so whether that means they have to
push Biden out or they have to get him
to the end or they have to push out the
first black female vice president they
will do what they have to do to attain
power and I think that that is much more
that's why culturally things generally
lean left like if you if you go in that
direction you will just keep going for
power where where conservative leaning
people and classically liberal leaning
people and libertarian certainly you
lean more to the individual you lean
more to what I would say is innate human
nature that it's a little bit messy that
you and I think different things about
the world but we agree like I can't have
your stuff you can't have my stuff we
want to live in roughly the same place
and the Democrats it's a much more
hegemonic authoritarian type Rule and uh
the amount of Destruction they can do
over the next couple months to to retain
that power I think is going to quite
shocking do you have a like if you were
going to put your Evil Genius hat on and
say okay this is what I would do if I
want to ensure that I retained power I'm
the DNC what uh what advice would you
give them there's horrible things you
can do there's hor you could make you
could make the let's say there's two
major Wars happening in the world right
now there's a war with Israel and Gaza
and now unfortunately Hezbollah which
Lebanon is not a functioning country so
Hezbollah which is an Iranian proxy is
basically at war with Israel in the
north you could just encourage more war
and then during war time and then of
course Ukraine and Russia you could just
ENC you could create all of the
conditions to basically be like Ukraine
keep going as far as you can we're going
to keep giving you as much weapons
there's an odd asym or there's a uh not
an asymmetry there's a disconnect
between the way Ukraine and the Israel
thing are working out because Ukraine we
can give them all the weapons in the
world they most likely cannot beat
Russia because Russia has nukes so
unless you're going to Nuke Russia which
by the way would have a nuclear response
like that thing's terrible I think the
count isra has their wor the reverse
situation which is they just need more
weapons to end a war that actually could
end it's a finite War but let's put that
aside for a second you could basically
make those Wars and maybe even a China
Taiwan situation very hot and then it's
now it's the end of October and people
are like holy [ __ ] there's this war here
there's this war here oh and by the way
suddenly there were two terrorists in
taxs in the United States and just there
will be so much chaos that the whole
narrative will be you cannot let evila
chos agent Donald Trump back in we need
old steady old man Joe Biden cuz we know
what it is it would be something like
that you just like sort of unleash
lunacy and then people will be like
please stay please stay something I
think it would be something like that
what what do you think
um like I don't think it's I don't think
it's as simple as just make the economy
better let's put it that way if I'm
putting on my Evil Genius hat oh right
that was the evil hat right uh so the
idea of continuing the forever Wars um
that feels like a totally different game
to me so if you want to steal from the
poor and give to the rich uh you keep
doing that so the uh in fact while we're
here uh let me do a quick PSA for people
this is utterly fascinating I forget now
who I heard this from it's not me making
this up I have a feeling this is well
trod territory but this is so
fascinating once you understand how
money printing Works in conjunction with
Foreign Wars and one little caveat you
understand why money printing is
absolutely Ely devastating to the poor
and middle class far more than it is to
wealthy people so here's how it goes I
think this is utterly fascinating and
this is why um the the reason that I
have such a hard time with Biden having
diminished cognitive capacity is I
already think that the Deep State and I
do think that is the right word uh
managerial class does not get at what's
really what I fear is really happening I
am always open to disconfirming evidence
but my gut instinct now with the little
bit of research I've done
so uh the way that this works is that
you're going to effectively allow the
Deep state to grow more powerful by
doing the following you are going to
print money to fund these forever Wars
the reason you do it by printing money
is it is a way to tax the American
people without actually having to ask
their permission uh it's a way to get
involved in a war without having to go
to Congress and ask for their permission
so now all of a sudden these people who
you did not elect are able to do do
things AKA print the money which is such
it's ultimately very simple but it's
hard for people to wrap their minds
around including me but the way printing
money Works goes like this uh you are
counterfeiting money but the government
is doing it so we don't prosecute them
but it is the same act the same reason
that you would hate it if your neighbor
were printing a billion dollars in his
backyard is exactly why you should hate
it when the government does it because
you are devaluing right what the dollar
does now explaining why that's true why
is why it isn't one for one is where the
complexity comes from but if you will
accept that when you print more money
you devalue the money that already
exists so I'm not take if you have $100
in your bank account I'm not taking any
of the 100 but through this sort of
magic trick I am causing the $100 to
only buy you $90 worth of goods or $80
worth of goods depending on how fast I'm
going at this then what I do with that
buying power that I just siphoned from
the American people with without having
to ask for their permission is I go and
I fund these wars now when I fund the
wars I'm going to say hey I'm going to
give you dear country whatever country
we may be talking about I'm going to
give you this money but you have to buy
your Munitions your weapons from
American manufacturers yep now watch how
that slide of hand just worked everybody
you had money taken buying power robbed
from your bank
account sent technically overseas but
the money comes back to American
contractors so if you're one of those
American contractors you just got richer
if you own a if you own stock in one of
those companies you just got richer so
you siphon from the entire taxable uh
citizenry but only benefit a few it is
insane now who's the person in that
apparatus that you can point to you
can't it's next to impossible to point
to a single person if you really want to
get freaked out and shout out to RFK Jr
he's the one that told me to read this
book uh but there's a book called JFK
and the Unspeakable and it's a very
dense book about how and why JFK was
assassinated now if somebody can show me
that this book is total hogwash I'm here
for it because you might actually be
able to restore my faith uh that the
Deep State doesn't control as much as I
fear but reading that book I was like oh
my god there are people just up and down
everywhere where the incentives are just
aligned yes and so that's what a
conspiracy is it's it's aligned well
that's why I said earlier that wouldn't
then a a mind muddled 80-year-old career
politician for 50 years be the perfect
person to be ushering in this managerial
class deep State situation he's not
really anything it's governing by
committee which now they're saying oh at
5 o'cl other people do things and he's
around great people so the buck stops
with nobody it's just an endless thing
for the system I'll add another layer of
what you just described that I think is
also deeply deeply disturbing which is
so we print the money so now the money
is worth less so the average person that
was just able to buy Less groceries
let's say okay that's fine that's one
thing but now as you said we give it to
these countries so Israel is really
interesting I'm a huge Israel supporter
but what we are doing to Israel is
actually evil we have made them
completely dependent on us so every
dollar that we give them we don't give
them for the it's exactly what you just
described they have to spend that money
on our weapon systems here some of them
they help design but basically it's a
subsidy for the military industrial
complex but then what we've done is
we've taken an independent country and
made them less independent they are and
now we are we have a actual incentive to
keep them in war forever which I think
is actually what's happening right now
they can end this war if they have the
proper weapons and they basically have
some cover for the unit not not troops
or anything like that but just some
cover from the US but instead we've the
system itself basically has realized oh
we can actually keep them in Perpetual
War why why wouldn't we keep them in
Perpetual War how is it that we went
from wrapping up Afghanistan which was
the longest war in United States history
that no one was really sure why we were
there in the first place because
Afghanistan had largely nothing to do
with 911 and then basically within
months Ukraine started and then when
everyone started getting frustrated with
Ukraine next thing you know there's a
war in the Middle East so I'm completely
with you on that all of that but I would
the the part that I'm adding is that
it's also destroying the sovereignty of
other nations when they basically are
completely rying on us for defense Every
Nation should be relying on it itself I
think I think a lot of countries are
learning that right
now yeah okay so
um who do you think ultimately RFK
benefits or
hurts so that's a great question and I
think you can probably argue it both
ways I would say that he
mostly I'll try to do it both ways and
then maybe you can be the judge of what
you think so I think the the way he
hurts Trump is that because he's been
particularly good on Co meaning really
you know for your own choice and he's
been antia and all that stuff the base
of Maga hates all that stuff their their
main gripe with Trump is warp speed
handing too much power to fouchy Burks
blah blah blah so if if that segment of
people whatever percentage that is if
they're just really pissed to Trump over
that and still willing to vote on that
then they'll vote JFK they're certainly
not voting for Biden right Biden was
worse on all those things and Biden did
mandates and and was far worse on covid
um and wanted you know literally was
trying to force people to get a vaccine
that was not a vaccine and all that so
whatever percentage of that Trump base
is still seriously pissed about covid
they could go to to
RFK my gut feeling is it hurts Biden
more because since RFK is a little bit
more of a traditional liberal say a
liberal of 30 years ago that we used to
know of Ed cotch and Danel Patrick Mahan
and Mario Cuomo and the list goes on and
on they used to call them blue dog
Democrats in the middle of the country
just more moderate Democrats and that's
what RFK at least partially represents
you could see a lot of that type it's
probably our parents generation more
than us that type of democrat being like
you know what the progressives are kind
of nuts they you know the aoc's and
everybody else we voted for Biden
because Biden was supposed to be the the
firewall against them and that's really
how they sold us Biden if you remember
when everybody dropped out it was like
they're not going to hand it to the
crazies right now Bernie and and
Elizabeth Warren and all the Socialists
Biden is just old trusty Joe Biden well
I think a lot of people with the
immigration thing particularly could be
like you know what Biden clearly failed
on that we're looking at the the
cognitive stuff Dementia or whatever
Parkinson's whatever it might be so
we're going to vote for RFK so my gut
feeling is he hurts RFK more and by the
way I would also say that the Democrats
knew that which is exactly why they made
it impossible for him to run as a
Democrat and then have in essence tried
to destroy him through media uh hit
pieces and everything else yeah it's
interesting to what what do you think
well so I don't know if I know enough
about the polling to have an official
answer but what I found interesting is
the polling numbers that RFK put out
there he said uh in a head-to-head Trump
beats Biden in a three-way he uh wins
over both of them sorry in know if he
goes against Trump he wins if he goes
against Biden he wins um it's only when
all three of them are there that he
starts then being uh pulling really low
and so so I have a feeling that he is
going to steal from your independent
voters depending on where Biden is
pulling I mean right now I think Biden's
so low it it's effectively assured that
Trump would win um so the question
becomes who's he a bigger spoiler for
almost certainly Trump if Biden is
either replaced or he gets his numbers
back up um that would be my gut instinct
because if if it were closer like it was
before between Biden and Trump now you
have to win over the independence and I
think RFK pulls Independence just pure
gut instinct if people want to feel like
me in terms of I want a vision of
optimism I want to see somebody talk
about the debt like I'm effectively a
single issue voter yeah and so he's the
only one that I hear talking about the
debt talking about the need to balance
the um the deficit talking about I I
this is probably a bit polyana but I
like the vibe of it where he says
if uh somebody is caught lying to the
American people somebody in government
is caught lying to the American people I
have them fired just adjudicating what
is a lie be tough but I directionally
yeah I get the sentiment and so um that
is one of those where okay again just an
outsider I'm an alien I come down I
visit I
don't I I would have to really stop in
fact let me steal men this and see if I
can figure it out because my instinct is
to not understand uh why Trump and Biden
are so popular okay so um looking at it
it goes like this this is my
off-the-cuff assessment of what I think
is going on but I I am literally
thinking through this for the first time
uh social media and algorithms fuel an
innate desire that we all have for
tribalism so don't blame social media
that's a mistake social media simply
responding to the incentives that the
human animal has uh humans want to be
tribal and the more like as an onair
personality you become very aware that
the more aggressive and in one Camp you
can be the more views and clicks you get
and so for me it is this constant like I
have to remind myself what what is my
actual value system and gravitate around
that even though I know hey if I just
skewed One Direction or the other H it's
honorable and it's hard I try the best I
can and I have no doubt I have blind
spots in that but all you can do is try
for sure so the DNC though does appear
to have leaned way way way into that so
uh tribalism all day every day now Trump
is do I think he intentionally leans
into tribalism I'm not familiar with
Trump enough to know if the answer to
that question is yes or no uh from the
things that I've seen his personality
makes him a lightning rod I don't know
if he's trying though I think there's
just something about the way that he
acts that drives people nuts so there is
a reaction to him that amplifies the
already sort of tribal Vibes over
here uh so you've got the DNC who
actively pursues um breaking people up
into these um identitarian groups you've
got Trump who just exacerbates that who
talks fast and loose um and who
is it's interesting I I don't know
enough about Trump to understand the
positive reaction to Trump but it's the
I feel scen the system is rigged it's
all against me things are bad he finally
stands up for me um
that thing but then when I look at RFK
that feels more like an accurate
representation of hey let me show you
what's actually broken let me show you a
positive way to get out of this let's
talk about the fiscal debt okay so now I
actually understand Trump thank you all
for letting me talk uh Trump is doing
what RFK is doing but from an emotional
place and so I can be all limic that
makes sense uh DNC tribes um Trump limic
the system is broken and I'm here to
save you I'm your [ __ ] and then RFK
is
reasoned RFK is [ __ ] that that will
never work well I don't know that it'll
never work but I don't think that we
within what we within what we have right
now it doesn't work right we need
something more to break I don't know
exactly what that is before more
suffering uh well hopefully not more
suffering but what do you mean by break
I would say we need more of the system
as we've described it so far to not be
working properly or be properly exposed
until people can get to the more
reasonable side of things break it
without suffering no so I I you probably
can't right like so if people would say
like what would really get America to
reset well it's you sort of asked this
already but in essence it would be like
it's probably only horrible things like
there it's it seems very unlikely uh
short of aliens coming down and offering
us something that is unknown maybe
that'll happen but short of that
happening it seems very unlikely that
any reset to realizing how good it is
here how precious and rare it is and
everything else it seemed like it could
only happen after a horrific tragedy I
lived in New York City during 911 I was
21 uh I was there for it my dad saw the
second plane hit from his office in
Midtown like I was around all that and
there was something that was happening
in New York City but not just New York
City there was something that was
happening in the entire country at that
time realizing like why America is so
precious and what Freedom means and all
of those things for all of her flaws and
all the stuff that you always have to
say with that I don't know that
something good could happen that would
unite us again like we're not going to
the Moon anymore I don't know maybe Elon
will get us to Mars and something so
spectacular will happen that we'll all
be like put aside all of this nonsense
we found other life out there um but it
usually we seem unfortunately Now to
respond only to horrific tragedies and
by the way even those tragedies partly
because of the way we behave with social
media even the tragedies rip us apart
now so you know a horrific shooting will
happen and you know like the Uvalde
Texas shooting 20 kids shot in a school
elementary school and immediately on
social media we're all going to our own
corners on that and it's like man for a
second can we realize that that 27 year
olds were killed before we're screaming
about you know you have AOC on one hand
get the guns and the other people on the
other side like so I don't know that we
can ever be reset out of this thing
without something horrible happening
which is a you don't even want to speak
that but I completely agree with your
with your overriding premise which is
that J RFK he's talking about something
that we need to get back to one way or
another maybe we can't get back to it
nationally you know maybe the only way
we can get back to it is personally
individually community-wise maybe a
little bit on the state side again
Florida is doing a lot of those things
right but maybe the national thing now
is so big it's so broken it's it's such
a Godzilla that cannot be managed
managed it's it's you know it's just a
giant godzilla standing in a china shop
and if it moves any way it's going to
break everything that
all you can want out of it is for it to
have less power which by the way would
be something that the the founders would
be pretty into the idea that if the
founders were looking at this thing
right now being like first off seeing
the two personalities seeing the
cognitive stuff and everything else but
that's not even it if they were looking
at it going look at what these idiots
did with this
incredible setup that we gave them the
setup that would free all of them and
look what they are debating about and
the amount of control they have given
over their autonomy and over the
economic system and everything else they
would be blow they would all be rolling
over in their graves what would they
point out what would be the thing that
they said oof I can't believe you messed
that one up I mean there's so much first
off the whole purpose of the founding of
the country was we did not want to be
ruled by a king like that's the most
simple bumper sticker version we didn't
want taxation without representation
they wanted people basically to live
their lives as they saw fit you would
have life liberty in the pursuit of
happiness we're going to have some
property laws we're going to make sure
the states aren't Waring with each other
but they wanted the states to be very
very different that was the beauty of
federalism it's again why I can always
sing the Praises of Florida because I
feel like I live in a place that still
is abiding by much of what America was
set up by and that's that is so
different then when I land here just
last night I land in Los Angeles and I
in some ways feel like I'm landing in
another country I really do which is a
very weird thing and it's funny my
producer who's sitting right here we
landed he turns his phone off airplane
mode and it said we lande