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All right, let's jump right into it,
guys. Um,
>> I really want to start with this Russia
Ukraine thing because I'm gonna be
honest, I did not see this coming. Um,
Trump doing a 100% 180, like completely
flip-flopping on his position. Let's
take it straight from his mouth or his
tweets. After getting to know and fully
understand the Ukraine Russia military
and economic situation and after seeing
the economic trouble is causing Russia,
I think Ukraine with the support of the
European Union is in a position to fight
and win all of Ukrainian all of Ukraine
back in its original form. With time,
patience and the financial support of
Europe and in particular NATO, the
original borders from where this war
started is very much an option. Why not?
Russia has been fighting aimlessly for
three and a half years. a war that
should have taken a real military power
less than a week to win. This is not
distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is
very much making them look like a paper
tiger. When the people living in Moscow
and all of the great cities, towns, and
districts all throughout Russia find out
what is going on with this war, the fact
that it's almost impossible for them to
get gasoline through the long lines that
are being formed, and all of the other
things that are taking place in this in
their war economy where most of their
money is being spent on fighting
Ukraine, which has great spirit and only
getting better. Ukraine will be able to
take back their country in its original
form. And who knows, maybe even go
further than that. There was not a
period in those last four lines. I just
want to let everybody know that.
>> Dude, these things are hard. This is
like interpretation. We need a Rosetta
Stone.
>> I was like, wait, that's the most run-on
runon. Putin and Russia are in big
economic trouble and this is the time
for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish
both countries well. We will continue to
supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do
what they want with them. Good luck to
all. Donald J. Trump, President of the
United States. The good luck to y'all is
like when your parents go to sleep and
they let you like stay up after the
sleepover. He's like, "You guys need
anything?" All right. Well, I'm going to
go to bed. Good night and y'all figure
it out. Don't blow up my house. I feel
like that's kind of how Trump is
insinuating this. What's your first read
when you heard this tweet?
>> So, I actually think that he's right. I
just don't know that this is um that
this is a good sign. So, this one really
is. You've got a prolonged war coming
your way. You're already into year
three. this is not going anywhere. Putin
is making a stand. Um I think that
Trump's take that any if America had
gone into a country the size of Ukraine,
we would have if we had the will, we
would have been able to just absolutely
run over them.
>> So did Putin just want to try to
preserve Ukraine and he's like, "Listen,
these are effectively Russian people. We
don't want to go in and steamroll them.
We could have, but we're not going to."
Um or is he really not prepared to fight
a overwhelming battle where he he just
goes in blitz takes him over shock and
awe and gets them folded back in within
you know 3 days.
>> If he isn't prepared to pull that off
then Trump is right. Europe can mount an
offensive work with Ukraine push them
back. Um I just don't know what the
right calculus is on that. no matter
what the calculus is on that, that's
just going to mean more people dying.
But Trump is right that when you're at
war, the only thing that people are
going to respect is a show of force. And
it's been really weird. So I lived the
vast majority of my life in the period
where I was sort of coming out of um the
Vietnam era, but for the most part like
it my life was the period where things
were peaceful for people in the Western
world. And it wasn't until 911 that that
really began to change. But now seeing
us go back to an old way of like borders
are not necessarily these um sacred
things that there are border disputes
and we're as nations we're going to push
in and do military intervention to try
to reunify or whatever the case may be
in the given border dispute.
>> But that is ugly. And we have seen
historically how many people die when
you start getting into this. And so this
is one of those things that I really
hoped would fizzle out that we would get
to some sort of negotiated settlement.
Now that we're talking about involving
Europe
th this is how you end up with a
conflict that just continues to grow.
And I don't want to say that I see any
indication that this becomes a world
war, but it's when you can't get these
kind of smoldering fires out, they do
continue to present a clear and present
danger. So, uh I am concerned.
>> Yeah, I mean technically we involved
Europe in the middle of this year when
Trump started taking a step back and
then that's when all the other uh PMs,
prime ministers got together and then
they started like aiding. But I don't
think we're getting to the point of
boots on the ground. Do you think that
this is just going to be kind of the
perpetual war? Because I remember you
said Russia is known for its cananan
fighter kind of resilience where they
will just line up body after body to
kind of just outpace you maybe.
>> Yes, that's true. However, I think
people need to understand that warfare
has fundamentally changed in the last I
don't know 20 years
>> and it is it's going to be a proxy war.
And so whether we get to boots on the
ground or not I think is pretty
irrelevant. If the US, if Europe
buys a bunch of weapons from the US,
then they send that to Ukraine. The
Ukraine then becomes aggressive into
Russia. They start trying to push back.
Uh, and the words will be, we're just
going to take back the areas that are
already ours. But the way that you're
going to do that, you get into the fight
and you suddenly realize, oh, your eyes
are vulnerable, so I'm going to poke at
your eyes. Your nuts are vulnerable, so
I'm going to try to knee you in the
nuts. And so they're at some point if
they don't settle this down, they will
start using those weapons to push into
Russia as a way to say, "Hey, back off."
>> Uh we didn't want to have to strike
Moscow or wherever they go after, but
you're forcing our hand. And so that's
how these kinds of things ratchet up. Uh
so again, boots on the ground is not my
fear. I don't think there's political
will for that in Europe. I don't think
there's political will for that in the
US. But these are all games of narrative
manipulation
and we need to recognize the way that
this kind of thing could play out. I'm
not saying this is how it's going to
play out. I'm saying this is the kind of
thing that makes me concerned.
>> So, uh, Europe begins to ally behind
Ukraine. They're buying weapons from the
US, which Trump does willingly because
he's angry with Putin.
Now Ukraine is able to launch more
strikes behind enemy lines inside of
Russia like they did with the drones.
They do an aggressive assault to try to
push them back. That then triggers Putin
to be more aggressive. And if Putin
keeps it confined to Ukraine, great. But
if Putin starts carrying out even like
terroristic style bombings or whatever
in another uh country or proves he's
already proven that he's willing to
poison people inside of somebody else's
country. So if he starts retaliating
even in ways like that where he's trying
to hide behind plausible deniability,
you just start ratcheting things up. And
then the narrative control will spin
like crazy. And if everybody's aligned,
if you can get the right and left
aligned around needing to back Ukraine,
then the narrative machinery is going to
go into like overdrive, convincing
America that sending money at a minimum,
sending weapons, uh sending like
training troops, that kind of thing is
like a really standard way to get this
stuff to escalate or even just upping
our presence in Europe. You see how this
stuff could continue to snowball. Then
if they really do start backing Putin
into a corner, if for Putin this starts
to be existential, even just because his
own country starts to believe, oh, maybe
we really never should have done this.
Oh, maybe we really are a paper tiger,
then all of a sudden he's got to do
something dramatic. And I don't Putin is
not giving me any indication that the
dramatic thing he's going to do is
withdraw. And so if you push him into a
position where he feels the only thing
that he can do is something dramatic on
the offensive, that's how you terraform
people's mindsets that Putin is bad guy.
We have to do something about this.
We've got to get him out. Things are
escalating. Putin just did really bad
thing. Poison somebody, whatever.
Whatever.
>> Uh or just launching u an attack on
Ukraine that steps over some sort of
line. And then you can see that being
used as the never let a good crisis go
to waste and we are drawn in more deeply
even if that's just economically. So
that would be my concern.
>> And then now from like Russia's
perspective because I feel like right
now we're getting a very western kind of
lens of this. How can the US are US eyes
looking at Ukraine looking at taking on
this big monster of Russia? From
Russia's perspective, what does Putin
have to worry about? like as long as his
his uh constituents aren't starving, he
can just continue this war. Is there any
internal pressures from the Russian side
that you think Putin is
>> depends on what's happening on the
ground and there are reports I assume
it's all manipulation but there are
reports that his economy is weakening
that people are standing I don't know if
I think gas lines is a thing that
they're talking about.
>> Um so if the internal economic pressure
becomes too much it will become harder
for Putin. Uh but this is the joys of a
dictatorship is you can keep people in
line pretty well and uh Russia had the
chance to become a true democracy in the
'9s. That isn't how things played out.
So it's really fascinating to watch
culturally what happens like in China,
what happens in Russia is there is a
sense of stability even if it's
stability under a tyrant is better than
instability. And Russia went through
this insane instability in the '9s. You
had the rise of the oligarchs. the
oligarchs come in essentially snatch
everything up. Uh people don't love that
and so you end up getting Putin who
comes in starts ruling with the iron
fist again. And even if it's just a
return to the familiar, people seem to
take to it. So if Putin is able to rule
with that iron fist, tell people um a
narrative internally backed up by force
that feels very and this is where I have
to fully express my cultural ignorance
to the Russians. So, you know,
>> I don't know exactly how this will play
out, but uh if he's able to tell them a
story that feels right for them, like,
hey, I'm hammering people down with this
iron fist. It's for your own good. Um or
because we have to save the Russian
people that are um I don't know how he
would represent it, but are being forced
to be Ukrainianized because they really
are. They pass legislation that makes it
illegal to speak Russian language in
certain um within Ukraine and there are
certain towns within Ukraine that are
first language Russian. So um yeah I
don't know how he's spinning it to his
people but it is very possible that he's
able to get everybody behind him between
a combination of completely controlling
the media and then using force. So, um,
how long that will last, I would need a
way clearer picture of the economic
reality on the ground because remember
everything you're being told if you're
not reading ground news is a spin. It's
just all spin, dude. Up, down, left,
right. Even just look at what's going on
with Charlie Kirk. It's just spin, spin,
spin, spin, spin. You can tell something
is fake. Uh, you just don't know what.
So, without like, and even going to
Russia, I don't know that you would get
a clear picture. So, you'd have to be
hearing voices from Russia that somehow
are getting out unfiltered information,
which Russia's not exactly known for.
>> Yeah. Somebody in the chat said that um
Putin just needs a good out so that way
he can save face. Like, is it one of
those things where if we can just if the
great negotiator and Donald Trump can
just negotiate a good
>> I would have believed that three months
ago maybe even. But it it's pretty clear
after what happened in Alaska that Putin
is Yeah. Whatever. What do you need,
Drum? Uh, you need me to say that,
>> uh, this never would have happened if it
wasn't for you. I'll tell you whatever
you want because I'm going to drag this
on and I'm going to buy myself as much
time as humanly possible to get my
agenda. But I have an agenda. I will
glad you. I will say the nice things. I
will say the things you want to hear. I
will come to the table, but I have my
agenda and I'm going to push my agenda.
And so, there's a really great quote
that I read years and years ago that
said, "Don't trust what somebody says.
don't even necessarily trust what they
do, but always always trust a pattern.
>> And the pattern in Putin's behavior is
that he'll come to the negotiating
table, he'll say he's close, he'll say
he wants an end to this. And then
literally he'll be like in the meeting
with you be like, "Hold on a sec. Yeah,
go ahead and drop those bombs." You're
like, "Wait a second, but you just said
that like we want to Yeah. No, 100% we
do." Yeah. No, go ahead and double the
bombs you're going to drop. It's like,
"What is happening right now?" If you've
ever seen those skits where it's like
you know I can hear you right so that is
the pattern
>> and so given that that's the pattern
that's the only thing that I trust he is
going to keep pushing forward now I
don't know that I have I know I don't
have any unique insight into his mind
and I don't know if my read is right
that he is um he wants to leave a legacy
he wants that legacy to be the reun
unification of the USSR.
>> He's a former KGB agent. Uh this is
somebody who understands propaganda. He
understands the power of lying. He
understands the power of holding a
frame. So it's like this is somebody
that you can't trust that the words they
say represent the vision in their mind.
So yeah, I don't I don't think it's as
simple as, oh, he's just looking for an
exit ramp because then it's like that's
part of his legacy is, oh, I lost that
match.
>> So until I think until he sees that, oh
snap, like there's no way for me to win
this,
>> I don't think he's going to exit. Even
if you gave him a really good exit ramp,
I think he's going to say, no, that's
not good legacy. Good legacy is
reunification.
and he may um from like if he's got even
grander ambitions because a lot of these
these guys uh who don't have to get
reelected, they think in really long
time horizons
>> and he may even be thinking about I will
eventually have a successor and I want
to set them up and I want uh mother
Russia to continue on for another
hundred years beyond me. And so that's
reunification, that's whatever. And so
he may have a vision in his head of the
chess pieces that he has to move into an
exact position even if he can't get it
all the way across the line. Um that he
does not want Russia or the surrounding
states to be European. He does not want
them to be Western. These are guesses,
but they certainly line up with the way
that he's behaving. And so if he's got
that story in his head, and remember
when um Tucker asked him like, "How do
we end up here?" He started back in like
the whatever 1400s. I don't remember the
exact year, but it was like talking
hundreds of years.
>> This isn't like last week you guys did
something and now I'm getting beef.
Yeah.
>> And once you understand, oh, this is
somebody who has a historical
perspective of their country. Uh don't
expect them to tap out just because they
have an offer.
>> We shall see. Um let's jump into this
Jimmy Kimmel uh news. He returned
yesterday. Um I'm going to play a couple
different clips. The whole monologue is
18 minutes, so we can't go through all
of it, but um this is what he had to say
about um in response to the Charlie Kirk
reaction to his original monologue.
>> I don't think what I have to say is
going to make much of a difference. If
you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't. I have no illusions about
changing anyone's mind. But I do want to
make something clear because it's
important to me as a human, and that is
you understand that it was never my
intention to make light of the murder of
a young man. I I don't
I don't think there's anything funny
about it. I I posted a message on
Instagram on the day he was killed
sending love to his family and asking
for compassion and I meant it and I
still do. Uh nor was it my intention to
blame any specific group for the actions
of what it was obviously a deeply
disturbed individual. That was really
the opposite of the point I was trying
to make. But I understand that to some
that felt either illtimed or unclear or
maybe both. And for those who think I
did uh point a finger, I get why you're
upset. If the situation was reversed,
there's a good chance I'd have felt the
same way. I have many friends and family
members on the other side who I love and
remain close to, even though we don't
agree on politics at all. I don't think
the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk
represents anyone. This was a sick
person who believed violence was a
solution, and it isn't. It ever. And
also selfishly
I am
>> whether you agree with him or disagree
with him, you've got to let the business
model run its course. Like if this guy
has no views and there's no ratings,
then it will die of its own accord.
>> Going in and trying to push this because
you hate him and you hate what he says
and you want to see him taken off the
air,
>> it it is a weapon. it is an energy that
is going to come back to you. And so
again, even though I do think that he
handles himself well in this monologue
and I watched the whole thing, this is
just a truncated version of it, but uh
encourage people to watch the whole
thing. Make up your own mind, but I
don't want to see him booted for any
reason other than the show isn't popular
or the network is like, "Man, you're
creating too many headaches for us. We
want to get you out."
So when you have people from the Trump
admin like campaigning this is hate
speech, we can't have this kind of
thing. Uh what was the car quote was
like we can do this the easy way or the
hard way. It's like man you don't want
that because we already live through it
with Biden. We already live through it
with Biden. See the part from the intro
with YouTube um censoring people under
pressure from the Biden admin. And the
goal is not to use those tools more
effectively against the other side. The
goal is to say this is absolutely
moronic. This is not how we move
forward. And then just as a reminder,
and I really hope that people that are
here for this show uh are on board with
the idea that we absolutely must find a
way to the middle. And if I can just
remind everybody this is an evolutionary
game. So society
is possible because evolution the blind
watch maker looked at it and went oh I
have to balance two things. I have to
balance the um right who's all personal
responsibility all the time. Go do your
thing. Nothing else matters.
>> Uh a lot of individualism becomes hard
to get the cohesion
uh of the group because you're just
selflessly taking care of other people.
And when from an evolutionary
perspective, you don't have
refrigerators. You have to store
calories on other people's bodies by
saying, "Okay, I got this hunt, but you
didn't." And so I'm going to share with
you, but then you need the right to
balance that because the second somebody
goes, "Oh, you're going to share with me
word. I don't have to do [ __ ] You'll
come back. You'll feed me and I'll be
able to free ride." And it's known as a
free load free uh loader problem or free
rider problem. I forget think free
loader problem. And from an evolutionary
perspective, once those two things are
in dynamic tension, so that and and it's
obviously evolution wasn't thinking
right and left. It's just trying the
reason that we break politically along
those lines is because there's an
evolutionary break along those lines in
terms of personalities that the group
needs. So the group needs compassion,
but that can go pathological. The group
needs personal responsibility, but that
can go pathological. And so you want
that dynamic tension. You want people
that that have those traits that we say
thusly tend towards the left to call out
for compassion. And you want the people
on the right who tend towards personal
responsibility, um, carrying your
weight, that kind of thing, to call out
for we don't accept freeloaders, like
you've got to do your part. And when
you've got both sides sort of competing
with each other, you get something
great. I see the same thing in business.
You get a CEO and you get an operator.
and they tend to be very um opposing
personality types and oftentimes I have
had to mediate those even when I'm
teaching entrepreneurs in impact theory
university I have to teach them like
this you want people you you have to
respect the other person so if you're
the operator you have to respect the
dreamer and the person that can be
unreasonable and actually get things
done and push things forward and vice
versa and if you don't want that dynamic
tension you end up in a problem So Jimmy
Kimmel to me is a symbol of that. I
don't agree with a lot of the things
that Jimmy Kimmel says. I think that
late night has become far less about
comedy and far more about preaching, but
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people are allowed to say the things
that they want to say. I don't want to
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>> Um, Trump had a response to it. This is
what he uh truthfed out. I can't believe
ABC fake news gave Jimmy Kimmel his job
back. The White House was told by ABC
that his show was canceled. Something
happened between then and now because
his audience is gone and his talent was
never there. Why would they want
somebody someone back who does so
poorly, who's not funny, who puts the
network in jeopardy by playing 99%
positive Democrat garbage? He is yet
another arm of the DNC. And to the best
of my knowledge, that would be a major
illegal campaign contribution. I think
we're going to test ABC out on this.
Let's see how we do. Last time I went
after them, they gave me $16 million.
This one sounds even more lucrative. A
true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kibble
rot in bad ratings.
>> Okay, this is exactly the kind of thing
that I'm saying we don't want. So, look,
if Trump were a citizen and he were
saying that and saying, "Look, the ABC
is given governmental funding or free
airwaves. I forget uh the exact
mechanism but all of the networks they
get all of the like core networks I
forget which ones qualify for this
non-cable
>> they get the airwaves access to the
airwaves for free and so for that
they're supposed to present balanced
coverage. Okay. Does Jimmy Kimmel
present balanced coverage? Absolutely
not. Does the network as a whole present
balanced coverage? Probably not. I don't
watch enough of it, but I I am willing
to bet that they don't. Uh, fine. If we
want to say, listen, this whole thing is
stupid. Whether you're on the right or
the left, everything is breaking along
partisan lines. Nobody is getting a fair
shot. None of this is balanced. And so,
we're going to just uh auction off those
airwaves. And all of these guys in the
age of social media, in the age of the
internet, they can find another way to
get to people. And they will, and go for
it. that I would get. But when you start
singling out a show and saying
essentially we're going to sue you as
the president of the United States,
dude, this is people who don't value
free speech. They say they value free
speech, but in reality they're engaging
in a war of partisan hackery, quite
frankly,
>> but they're battling for narrative
control. If I were Trump, and as the
president, I would say exactly the
following. It's clear that it's
completely broken down that the airwaves
are no longer something that taxpayers
should be paying for. So I think
everybody right, left, center, doesn't
matter. Nobody should be getting this
for free anymore. We've obviously gone
down a path where balance is not what we
prize
>> and we already cut funding to PBS, NPR,
so he's already getting that
>> pull all of that. We're we're in the
internet age. Everything is different.
Uh, and by the way, thank the Lord that
there are so many incredible voices on
the right from his perspective on my
team that exist on the internet. And so
this information is getting out there.
>> Great. The thing that I that drives me
crazy about the sort of unified voice on
the right when it comes to this stuff is
they act as if they don't have a voice.
They act as if somehow mainstream media
is ever going to change. And that what
they want them to do is like mayulpa
like oh my god I can't believe that
we've been propagandistic. It's like
everybody is propaganda. The right is
propaganda. The left is propaganda. And
so I don't know. It just seems it's so
theatrical and so pointless. We're we're
in a hyper populist moment. Everybody is
trapped in a frame of reference.
Everybody is going to give you their
take from their side. Instead of like
banging pots and pans and saying like
they should be saying XYZ thing,
dismantle their argument. Take their
arguments apart. Win people over because
your ideas are tethered to reality. And
if your ideas aren't tethered to
reality, they should lose in the public
marketplace. But that isn't the game
that we decide to play. And listen, I've
got more beef with the way that the
Biden administration handled this
because it was so surreptitious, so
behind the scenes, so pervasive. Because
online is far more important
>> than traditional legacy TV. They're both
terrible. They're both anti-free speech.
They both need to stop. But if you want
to talk about which one scares me more,
the silent behindthe-scenes censoring of
people and being like, "What do you
mean? What are you talking about? Trump
for all the lunacy in this tweet. At
least he does it out in the open so that
I can hate it publicly.
>> I felt like that was like you had that
one like beat up like built up like
hated it publicly.
>> So when for people to uh when you guys
see the deep dive that I wrote for
Monday, which I hope that you guys will
watch, and thank you by the way. The
deep dives continue to be our best
performing content. You guys are
amazing. I appreciate the trust that you
give them a shot. uh the deep dive
coming out this Monday. I I'm really
trying to figure out what the
foundational building blocks are that
put us at risk for culture falling
apart.
>> Uh our country falling apart. Everybody
knows my beef on economics. While I
mention it in the video, I don't go into
a ton of detail, but one of the things
that I haven't talked a lot about is
freedom of speech. And so I talk a fair
amount about freedom of speech. I really
do consider it one of the core bricks in
this. And so getting this wrong is
lunacy. And America has been the shining
um city on a hill precisely because the
result the results that we've been able
to deliver as a nation are largely due
to the scientific method.
>> The scientific method in public
discourse, the scientific method in the
construction of our government, the
scientific method in businesses in
science. And so once you make freedom of
speech impossible, you make the
scientific method impossible. I don't
talk about it that way in the deep dive,
but you get my underlying thoughts. Uh,
okay. Let's talk about YouTube lying to
people. Um,
Discourse TV just in YouTube admits to
having censored people during the COVID
pandemic and for political reasons
offers terminated creators the
opportunity to rejoin the platform. This
is a section from the full uh I don't
want to say it's a lawsuit, but their uh
congressional address. Uh 23. The
company terminated channels for
repeatedly violating its community
guidelines on elections integrity
content through 2023 and COVID 19
content through 2024. Today, YouTube's
community guidelines allow for a wider
range of content regarding CO 19 and
elections integrity.
Reflecting the company's commitment to
free expression, YouTube will provide an
opportunity for all creators to rejoin
the platform if the company terminated
their channels for repeated violations
of COVID 19 and elections integrity
policies that are no longer in effect.
24. YouTube values conservative voices
on its platform and recognize that these
creators have extensive reach and play
as an important role in civil discourse.
The company recognizes these creators
are among those shaping today's online
consumption, landing mustwatch
interviews, giving viewers a chance to
hear directly from politicians,
celebrities, business leaders, and more.
How do you feel about YouTube saying the
quiet part out loud?
>> You have to at this point. Um I I think
it's very good that they're admitting
this. I think it's very good if they
actually stop censoring people. I just
don't trust it. So, we'll see. Uh one,
we'll see if the Trump admin can get off
of their anti-free speech kick. two, we
will see if when we um flip sides where
the world is at because the Democrats
have already proven they are perfectly
happy to censor. Uh also anybody that is
going towards socialism, they will find
out very quickly that you have to kill
people uh in order to get everybody on
the same page. So it's like that
certainly is even if they want it to be
free speech in the beginning, they'll
never get there because they will
understand very quickly people me if
nobody else will make very compelling
arguments as to why what they're
proposing won't work. That's going to be
very detrimental to their platform. And
so they are going to realize, oh man, we
just got to shut up a few of these
people. And uh this really is something
I talked about in my deep dive. Killing
works. It is so expedient to kill
somebody is just so effective. You never
have to worry about them ever again. And
so this is why all throughout human
history, if somebody's really a pain in
your ass, you just kill them. So, uh,
don't expect that to go anywhere anytime
soon. People are going to keep doing
that. So, yeah, that one scares me. So,
I want to see YouTube really stick with
this, but I don't think it is a um
deeply ingrained value that they have. I
think it is economically expedient right
now.
>> Um let's kind of dive into this because
right now it seems like they're talking
specifically about CO 19 and elections
integrity. The elections integrity, uh
Dominion USA nearly bankrupt Fox News.
They've settled that case. That's done.
That's old news now. CO 19, everybody,
it seems, flipped their positions or at
least has now added more nuance to it.
We were all suffering at the time. Now
that we kind of have more information,
we realize, okay, we could have handled
that better.
>> Is this just something that they're
trying to do to kind of save face or is
this something
>> dollars money period? End of story.
>> The Listen, if people have a mental
framework that says, "Hey, there are
things that you can say they're just too
dangerous."
>> I can't let you say that. When when I
read James Burnham, I was like, dude,
we're we're really in a place that I
don't know how it plays out. And that
place is narrative control works.
Narrative control is important. We need
shared narratives and it will never
happen again. So I was like, whoa, that
era is over. That era lasted for
thousands of years. Thousands of years.
you could control what people in your
tribe believed because it was like,
well, the chief said this is what it is
and everybody's going to get on board
with it. Even when the printing press
came, it's like, well, it's getting
harder, but a printing press is so
expensive. There's going to be very few
people that can actually get all the way
to having a book done. Uh, if you don't
like what the guy that wrote the book
says, you lock him up forever. You exile
him. You make him take poison, whatever,
which they routinely did. Uh, so you you
kill enough authors and it's like, yeah,
people tend to say what we want them to
say. Uh now with social media the game
is over and so now what happens? So
you're in a world where let's say co is
popping off.
>> Mhm.
>> And please give them the benefit of the
doubt to make the thought experiment
difficult. You give them the benefit of
the doubt that they actually believe
that you're spreading misinformation
that will kill people. What do you do?
Do you still let them say it? Like
you've got Joe Rogan. So many people
believe this is their perspective. So
many people listen to him. He's an
unhinged lunatic. Their perspective.
He's an unhinged lunatic. He's killing
people with the thing that he's saying.
Bro, we've got to take him down. And if
you actually believe that his words are
killing people, don't you have a moral
obligation to stop him? And what if his
words are killing millions of people?
Don't you really have a moral? Like how
much do you actually believe in freedom
of speech? So I'm telling you, you have
to look inward and go, am I prepared to
live in a world where freedom of speech
really does because it's so messy and
people are going to debate it and a bad
idea is going to take hold and maybe we
don't even really know and so maybe
people really are dying because that
information was just super catchy and it
just spread like wildfire and everybody
believed it, but it was killing a whole
lot of people. and freedom of speech
will eventually bring us back around
because other voices will go, "Hey, this
is killing people and here it is. Here's
the evidence." And people are allowed to
study what they want, say what they
want. And so we get there, but we did
kill a whole lot of people with
misinformation.
>> Mhm.
>> I Tom Billu am prepared to live in that
world because I am so much more like I
would rather die because I man I'm
listening and I'm doing my best and
okay, I took that information and I made
a decision with the best information
that I had available. Oops. and now I'm
dead and I'm on my deathbed. I'm not
going to betray my belief and be like,
"People should be forced to shut the
[ __ ] up." I'm gonna say, "I miss this
one and it sucks and these are huge
consequences and I'm going to
immediately turn my thoughts to my wife
and the people that I've loved and
they'll love me and I'm so glad I got to
go on the ride."
>> Other people are going to be like, "No,
no, no. We got to shut people up. We
know better."
>> I am so afraid of that tyranny. Uh,
dude, I've tried I've tried to get
people to read. You only need to read
three books. And if you read those three
books and are like, "Yeah, tyrannical
rule is still better." Okay. Uh, we have
assessed the world very differently. I
am not prepared to be tortured for
months to get a false confession out of
me because people want to control the
narrative. Not cool with that. Don't
want that. That's the hill I would die
on. And so, yeah, not playing that game.
So, whatever world is born out of free
speech, I am prepared to live in that
world. Even if we go through periods of
like dramatic problems, it is far better
than the and this is a real stat. This
is a real stat. This is a real stat.
In the 20th century alone,
in the 20th century alone, 200 million
people were killed by their government.
Hard pass.
>> Wow.
>> Hard pass. So look, I don't expect
everybody to adopt my beliefs. I think
it is good that there is dynamic tension
between people who think like me and
people who think another way. And yes,
we have to find a shared existence down
the middle. But oh my god, I don't know
how people don't look at Ma China at
Stalin's uh Russia or Lenin's Russia for
that matter and go quite literally over
my dead body.
>> I I I'm like conflicted right now,
right? Because when I was growing up,
usually when a doctor says, "Hey guys,
we think this thing is bad for you.
Maybe you should stop it a little bit."
We'll be like, "Okay, give me two
seconds. Let me do my own independent
research. Let me see." But the amount of
videos and Tik Toks of pregnant women
just facing Tylenol
is kind of crazy. All right, I'll take
this at the beginning. So, um, this is
Dr. eyes on the Fox News show um talking
about the link that they established
between Tylenol and autism specifically
for pregnant women during a specific
time in their pregnancy. Um so this is
not if you pop a Tylenol you turn
autistic. It is Tylenol does a certain
thing that breaks down the barrier in
your brain that can then allow
hyperactivity
uh like diseases. is I don't know what
the proper term is hyperactive uh
diseases to be more prone. So while it's
not causality there is a correlation
that he established.
>> Secretary Kennedy and the three agency
heads uh Jay Marty and myself we know
that it people who take Tylenol for
prolonged periods of time during
pregnancy seem to have a higher
incidence of autism in aggregate. So the
message is don't is not never take
Tylenol. It's take Tylenol judiciously.
Take it by talking with your doctor.
Make sure there's an important reason to
take it. Don't take it willy-nilly
because you think it's so safe it
couldn't possibly cause a problem
because don't those assumptions appear
to be erroneous. Okay, we believe
>> boom and then shortly after if you run
to uh Tik Tok it was just a bunch of
>> this is wild. This is what what are you
doing?
>> They are literally taking a drug. they
don't presumably need. She's dancing and
does not seem to be in any sort of pain.
Uh
to prove a point and the thing that will
pay the biggest price if they're wrong
is the child. That is wild.
>> And then now pulling up a tweet from
March 7, 2017, Tylenol, the company
themselves said, "We actually don't
recommend using any of our products
while pregnant. Thank you for taking the
time to voice your concerns today. Damn.
>> So, they even came out and said, "Hey,
we're not the most safe."
>> But,
>> wow, this dude. Okay, so, uh, PSA,
>> I certainly understand the emotional
impulse when somebody you don't like,
who you believe has authority over you,
is telling you that you have to do
something a certain way. I had the same
reaction when they said you couldn't
burn the flag. I've never had the
impulse to burn a flag ever in my life.
I love America so much you can't
imagine. Uh but when I was being told I
couldn't do it, I had the impulse. But I
would like to remind people I didn't do
it because that's stupid. I was trapped.
Not trapped. I the emotion came from a
frame of reference of having a problem
with authority. Uh
just because you hate Trump and that's
perfectly fine. Everybody has the right
to dislike whoever they want. But if you
are taking again a literal poison,
Tylenol is saying, "Hey, probably not
best to take when you're pregnant. So
you are taking something that possibly
has a negative knock-on effect and you
are doing it in an effort to hurt the
person that you don't like. It is
nonsensical.
So you are trapped inside of your frame
of reference. You are trapped inside of
your hate of somebody and you are
allowing it to make you make bad
decisions. So when you feel that
emotional impulse, man, pull out. This
is why do not trust your emotions. when
I had the emotion
uh I was like yeah I don't trust this
and therefore did not act on it but man
people need to cultivate a distrust of
their own emotions but everybody trusts
themselves so much they are convinced
because they feel it then it must be
true it must be right and you see all
these people acting in accordance man
this is like the one thing if I could
give people just a gift gift it would be
to realize oh you should be skeptical of
your own emotions skeptical in the
extreme they do not always lead you to
your goals.
>> I wish that was the only copy. Um I
can't find the link, but there was a
super cut that had like six pregnant
women all like
>> there's so many I've seen so many of
these things and they think that they
are hurting Trump.
>> Yeah.
>> The right. I don't know man. It's uh it
is it is a very accurate sign of where
we are that I am just going to do the
opposite of whatever you tell me. lit
the exact opposite. This might be bad
for me. I'm falling over myself to not
only do it, but to film it and put it
out. Oh my god. Like you you are
trapped, man. You are trapped. You You
have gotten sucked in to your own mind.
And people just get like lost inside of
a world that isn't really there. They
have told themselves a story about
something and it's not real. and they
are willing to do damage to their unborn
child. They are willing to put their
unborn child at risk.
>> Let's say it in the cleanest way
possible. It's crazy.
>> Uh Dr. Rhonda Patrick, in light of
recent news, it's worth noting that the
association between acetame eg Tylenol
used during pregnancy and childhood
behavior issues is not new. This study
from 2016 found a 30% increase in the
risk of hyperactivity, that was the
word, hyperactivity symptoms among
children, both genders exposed to
acetaphin during pregnancy. In boys,
exposure was also l linked to autism
spectrum disorder symptoms in a
frequency dependent manner. Causation
remains unestablished, but it's exciting
that OBGYNS will be getting guidance on
this increased risk to inform women. And
she retweeted a study that she published
in 2016 and that is what caused Tyler
and all to retweet that at the beginning
of 2017 because it was kind of gaining
steam. But um as much as I want to say,
you know, Maha has a win. They announced
something, this seemed like this is a
older study that they're now resurfacing
and they're bringing it back to life.
>> God bless them.
>> Yeah,
>> God bless them. We So, okay, I am often
asked about um supplements and I am
often given opportunities to uh get
equity in a supplement company for
promoting supplements. Uh just raw
dollars to promote supplements. And I've
always been very hesitant because if
one, if using it, it falls into the
placebo zone, I'm probably not going to
get behind it. If it I don't notice it
at all. I'm definitely not going to get
behind it. And I'm always paranoid about
isolating compounds. Like the number of
times we've been like, "Oh my god, this
thing is good for you." And then people
isolate the compound, they take the life
out of it, and then it creates a
problem. It's like, man, we evolved to
like have to fight for food. It was
scarce. It was in a living thing,
whether that was an animal or a plant.
And so there's like natural balances,
defenses, everything. It's like,
>> so when you start stripping away, like
take juice versus eating an apple. Apple
juice doesn't have the fiber. Okay.
>> So we did not, first of all, apples in
their natural state before we started
crossbreeding them look nothing. We're
macro uh from a macro perspective. We're
nothing like the apples that we have
today. And then on top of that, we're
[ __ ] juicing them. Yeah, boys and
girls, please understand the things that
you put in your body matter a lot and
your body's going to respond to them.
And I know that people will say things
like a calorie is a calorie is a
calorie. And it's like, oh god. If
you're talking only about putting on
fat, maybe. But in terms of you are what
you eat. Your literal cells are made of
the things that you chew and swallow. So
be really thoughtful about the things
that you chew and swallow. That doesn't
mean never have a supplement ever.
Listen, D3, now that I can't get sun
exposure, I'm going to be supplementing
D3. But with a high degree of paranoia
that there's going to be like some
knock-on effect. It is not as good as
getting it naturally from the sun. That
is my default assumption. So look, I
have gut instinct. Gut instinct. My gut
instinct, Drew, is that what we're going
to find over time is that exogenous
substances, meaning some isolated out in
the world that we have changed in some
way and now we are taking to our bodies,
either just because we breathe that
stuff in the air or because it's a food
item, whatever that we are going to see
that all of them are just a little bit
of damage and then they just stack and
stack and stack and stack and stack and
we just are taking way too many little
death of a thousand cuts into our lives
through all of these modern compounds
which are amazing and I'm glad that we
have Tylenol when I have a headache or
something like that. But I'm not just
reaching to it every time I have a
headache. I'm thinking, is this one
that's going to go away? Can I give it
four or five hours and see if it
resolves naturally?
>> Uh if you take that stance of like,
okay, I'm glad these tools exist, but
I'm going to use them only if I really
need them, you're going to be in much
better shape. Obviously, gut instinct. I
am not a doctor.
>> Aren't like 50% of headaches just
dehydration? If you drink a bunch of
water and like relax, it goes away. So
>> listen, I have beef with the whole water
narrative, but it's possible.
>> You have beef with the water with the
water native.
>> Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Everybody lean in. Time stamp this one.
Bookmark it. Uh, bring this one back.
I'm telling you right now.
>> Okay,
>> think from first principles. You're
telling me water, fresh water,
non-stagnant fresh water that is not
present in a lot of places that somehow
we have evolved to need whatever three
gallons or whatever it is, that's not
the right answer obviously, but the
absurd amount that people tell you to
take that we would evolve to need it
like that, get out. I have forever been
like, "No, no, no. There's something so
sus about that recommendation. Now
again, I'm not saying dehydrate
yourself. I'm just saying from an
evolutionary first principles
perspective, clean water was not just
like laying around everywhere. Animals
would have to risk their lives cuz
remember we are not just human. We came
up through millions of years of
evolution where one of the most
dangerous things you would have done is
gone to the watering hole. And so it's
like, nah, that one someone they're
gonna have to explain something. And of
course, now I I am just now starting to
see this could all be conspiracy. I do
not have a clean take. All I have is
suspicion for you. So please recognize
where I'm at on my have researched this
journey. Uh but people are now starting
to come out saying, "Yeah, you can
create like I don't know if it's
electrolytes, but you create a mineral
imbalance because you were just
constantly flushing the system, flushing
the system, flushing the system." There
there's no way we were meant to live in
a perpetual need to pee. Don't buy it.
No way. Hard pass. Like it's just there
there's something there. Uh so I drink a
normal amount of water. You see me
drinking water right now. I drink water
amount of water.
>> If you're thirsty, drink water.
If you're not thirsty, don't drink
water. Like I love my COO and don't even
tell him I said this, but that fool
drinks water like he's got a gun to his
head. I'm like, what are you doing? So
anyway, we'll see.
>> Let's go around the world. Uh the UN
summit started today or yesterday. U
marking its 80th year anniversary and
the UN is on some shaky footing for the
first time in its year. Um there was one
quote in this article I wanted to pull
up. The US is behaving in an incredible
petty way, says Richard Gowim, the UN
director of the international crisis uh
group, a think tank. um from top to
bottom, huge area arenas of the UN's
work, things like poverty alleviation,
things like public health, things like
gender equality, things that
fundamentally anchor the UN's work. The
US is actively working to disrupt them.
Um this is at a time when the UN is
underfunded, overstretched, and under
attack. It lost 40% of its funding since
last year, and aid workers have been
killed in record numbers, mostly in
Gaza. Um
I don't know if I got your take on the
UN. How do you feel about
>> I don't know that I have a take on the
UN. The reality is I would need to do
research on what's their stated
admission. This is one of those where at
a headline level I keep hearing things
like uh the UN is like actively
anti-Israel.
Um so I don't know if that's true. I
would really have to go in and look at
this. What I will say is from this
particular instance, I really believe
that they were trolling Trump with the
escalator for sure. there just the
timing of it way too perfect and that
they had been joking about it the week
before they were probably trolling him
with the teleprompter. So that kind of
like pettiness I don't know that that
doesn't strike me as uh ideal but the
idea of uniting nations is awesome. So I
would have to look into this to have a a
sharp take.
>> From a world police perspective though,
there is a level of responsibility that
the US has with the UN and it has it
with NATO.
>> Yep.
>> Do you see us Trump seems to be wanting
an America first, well Israel first,
America second policy? So is it one of
those things where we want
>> you dropping political bombs over here
on us? Hey man. Um, Israel killed three
US citizens and nobody's saying
anything. Um,
>> when they killed three US citizens
>> when they bombed Lebanon, even though I
thought we were fighting Palestine, but
uh,
>> interesting.
>> That's
coming later. That's coming later. Um,
but in the world police US as like top
cop, do you think that it's important
for us to be a part of these
international agencies, the UN, NATO in
some capacity? Maybe we're not the
principal donor, but you know,
>> so having nations truly be united, I
think is a very um awesome idea.
>> I do not want a world government, but I
would love to see cooperation in the way
that we as a United States have very
differing opinions from state to state
to state, but we still have an
organization. I love that idea. uh
having some criteria especially from
like a human rights perspective for
people to be in it. I think it's all
wonderful. Um so there's certainly an
idea there and I would love to see the
US be a part of that kind of um
meta
national like grouping would be amazing
but I'd need to know the specifics. So I
have a vision in my mind that it would
be incredible but whether that's
actually what's happening in the UN that
that I don't know. uh so if this becomes
a big enough deal I can certainly do the
research necessary but uh from that
perspective that would be very
interesting. Now from the perspective of
world cop there are two world cops now
you've got the US and you've got China
and having a world policeman I think is
incredibly important. We're going to
find out whether a multipolar world is
better than a uni unipolar world.
Certainly a unipolar world when you are
the unipole is dope. Uh but you don't
have that balancing act that I was
talking about. You don't have two
opposing forces that have to find a way
to coexist. And that dynamic tension may
actually end up being uh better moral
the right word maybe. Uh it might make
us make more compromised decisions,
decisions of compromise is probably a
better way to say it than us just going
around and bullying the world and all of
that. Um, but it will come down, I
think, to how antagonistic the US and
China are. And I think we're going to
get extremely antagonistic. So then that
becomes a problem. That feels more like
the Cold War. Uh, which was not fun.
That was very nerve-wracking from, uh,
growing up in the 80s perspective. Uh,
so we'll see if that plays out well or
if it just ends up being through CID's
trap and we end up colliding with China.
So you need people keeping the streets
of the world safe, which are basically
the waterways. So, you need somebody
with a big navy that's willing to go
around and say, "Everybody chill the
[ __ ] out. We are going to have commerce.
There's not going to be any fighting.
We're not going to have pirates uh
running everybody ground." So, um this
reminds me of the Silk Road. So, for
anybody that looks at Genghaskhan, you
will hopefully be absolutely mortified
by what a moral monster he was. An
absolute monster. Uh, and yet the Silk
Road was amazing because he was uh PAX
Mongolia. It it was just the world is
under my thumb. You will do as I say.
And so that creates stability even
though he would kill entire cities dead.
Like I don't like the way that you guys
responded to us when we were rolled up.
You're all dead. So that's not ideal.
Women, children, men, doesn't matter.
Dead. Dead. Dead.
>> We're going to talk about Israel
Palestine, but I want to start with the
strike. So, four US citizens, including
three children, in Israeli strike on
Lebanon, says Lebanese government. They
were targeting a senior
um Hezbollah official. He was on a
motorcycle next to a Mercedes. The
Mercedes had the US people in it. Both
uh vehicles were destroyed in it. Um
Israel is reviewing the drone strike.
Uh, I don't can't remember the last time
US citizens were killed on foreign soil
and their um death wasn't condemned. Um,
but I feel like this is a bigger deal
than it should be. Um, but I don't want
to be one of them people.
>> Um, then it
>> you said it's a bigger deal than it
should be, meaning it's being blown out
of proportion. You think this is not
being taken seriously enough, right?
>> Yes.
Yes. Yes.
>> Perfect. Okay. So, yeah, I don't want to
see any civilians killed. So, um I
certainly don't want to see kids killed.
That's horrible. Now, it just becomes
this is really a question about how far
are nations allowed to go when they are
trying to um
end a war. Can you go into another
country? Can you bomb and kill
civilians? uh can you is there any
number of acceptable
um casualties uh collateral damage and
so a as a world I guess we have to
decide. So looking at if the numbers can
be believed according and I I never hear
people push back on this number, but
according to an IDF spokesperson or an
Israeli spokesperson, one of the two,
but I'll round them together said that
um they've killed, I believe, 30,000 uh
troops of their estimation. And for
every troop they've killed, they've
killed two civilians. So 60,000
civilians dead
>> roughly. These numbers may not be
exactly correct, but those are roughly
correct. So, uh, putting it all
together, 80,000 dead roughly. Um, so
if that's true, sorry, I just did the
math wrong, 60 and 30, 90. Uh, so 90,000
dead, uh, two civilians, and it's my
understanding that two civilians is like
way below what the US did in Iraq, maybe
also Afghanistan. So if that's true,
it's like, okay, like it, are we saying
just collateral damage must be zero? And
if collateral damage must be zero, how
do you actually wage war? Is anybody
counting these numbers up in Russia?
Like do we have the same beef there? So
yeah, I get it. Uh I don't know. Some of
the just like the international outrage
feels performative instead of like,
okay, what are we actually going to do
to stop this stuff? Uh that feels like
the real question. I want to see all of
our energy and efforts going to how do
we disarm this bomb that is killing
people day after day after day after
day. Uh how do we actually bring an end
to the war? So if it's going to be um
I mean economic sanctions, let's go. If
it's going to be uh I mean it's going to
be different in each of the wars. So
economic sanctions in Russia, if we're
going to do it, let's do it. Um if it's
what's it going to be against someone
like Israel that's got the back in the
US? What are people going to do? Like is
are we just bumping up against a might
makes right and there's no way to argue
this?
>> Uh that's where I think we just
continually stall out. So then people
just bang pots and pans and try to
manipulate uh public opinion to get
people to lose an appetite for the war.
But it's easy to condemn. Don't don't
drone strike. uh
certainly don't if the US doesn't squawk
about its own citizens being killed, we
have a problem. If
people are killing somebody in a foreign
country,
there's going to have to be some
latitude for that because we certainly
killed Osama bin Laden in a foreign
country. Did we have their permission? I
don't think we did. So it's one of those
where from a
we're we are running into this is just
how the world works. So if you ask me
questions
specifically I can avoid fractling. Is
killing citizens bad? Yes. Should the US
condemn the fact that four of their
citizens got killed? Yes. Should
Palestinians scream every time one of
their civilians gets killed? Yes. Should
Ukrainians scream every time a Ukrainian
civilian gets killed? Yes. Should
Russians scream every time a Russian
civilian gets killed? Yes.
>> Um followup.
>> Do I think it will matter?
>> No. It
>> Yeah. Because it is stacking against
Israel. So there is enough screaming
that can happen that it will change
something. Israel isn't Israel is going
to struggle to build back uh alliances
after this. but they're just betting on
well we've got the US and so it doesn't
matter.
>> Um one of the things on the docket for
the UN is a lot of states have been
calling for um a lot of countries have
been recognizing the state of Palestine.
So Australia, Canada, Portugal and the
United Kingdom formally recognized a
state a Palestinian state. 142 nations
endorsed a UN General Assembly
resolution calling for a tangible
timebound and inversible steps toward a
two-state solution. and France and Saudi
are organizing a rally to support this
issue on Monday. Um there's even been
protest in Italy after um Italian PM
rejects recognizing Palestinian as a
sovereign state. Um the claim in this
tweet that this is Antifa, a far-left
group. Um that seems to be spin because
when I watched uh Reuters, BBC, and Al
Jazzer, there was no mention of Antifa
at all. It was just in response to um in
response to the PM saying no, there was
a pro Palestinian protest and then these
this happened at a separate protest. Um
so it seems from an international
standpoint the uh
the uh the the the level of um how much
we can take of this is starting to
decline. Do you think that this is
putting pressure on Israel?
>> It's certainly putting pressure on
Israel. There's no doubt. there is a
mounting sentiment that Israel is just
completely unhinged and they are just
going to kill kill kill kill kill kill
kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill
uh until they take over the Gaza strip
so the only thing that is um going to
help immediately because even the the
long-term damage to the reputation I
think has already been done uh we've
raised at least one generation of kids
in America maybe more to just default
assume that anybody who is powerful is
bad they hate America they hate Israel.
Um, and so anybody that's the oppressed
is automatically the morally righteous
person. So that's going to do uh
tremendous damage to the US's
reputation, to um Israel's reputation.
So now the question becomes, what are
the steps that we could take to actually
begin unwinding this? I think you
absolutely need a two-state solution.
However, you need you you will find
yourself back in a violent position uh
if that government is a terrorist
government. Now, it is my understanding
that Palestine
elected Hamas. So, if that's true, now
admittedly, Hamas then immediately took
over, ruled with an iron fist, but it's
like at some point you reap what you
sow. And so if I am correct on that and
they actually did elect Hamas, uh that
did not play out well. So
they need to deal with that. So let's
run a thought experiment. If Trump
breaks bad and really does become a
threat to democracy, then we have to
stand up and say, "Yeah, voted for it or
not." Like this is our problem. We've
got to do something about it. Uh so
that's where people end up bearing arms
against their government when somebody
uh and look this is not easy and it is
horrifying the way that these countries
will uh these leaders like that will
just kill you. Oh, you spoke up. Cool.
You're dead and we lay you at the feet
of your parents house is actually
something I think Hamas did to uh a
young Palestinian who carried like an
anti-Hamas sign or something in one of
the marches. Uh it's absolutely
horrifying. But the what becomes
abundantly clear when you read the Gulog
Archipelago is until enough people stand
up and say, "Yep, you're going to
torture me to death, but I just I have
to stand up." And I want to be very
clear. I do not trust myself to be that
person. So this is not me taking some
morally righteous stand, but I am well
aware that until enough people do that,
you just stay under tyranny. So you
can't have a terrorist state. You won't
have stability if you have a terrorist
state. Let me say that in the most clear
way possible. Uh if you are a government
who allows your people to be repeatedly
attacked over and over, you are
rightfully going to be ousted. Now, if
you're a government that lets your state
be attacked over and over and you get
ousted, guess who you're going to be
replaced with? Somebody who goes in and
is more violent. So eventually you get
back to the place that we're at with
Israel. If I were Israel, the advice
that I would give them is uh you have to
find a way to help them build a
legitimate state. And that probably
means going to the neighbors who have
signed the Abraham Accords who are Arab
and saying, "Listen, we need your help
and you've got to build a state. We
can't be a part of it, but it can't be
terrorists." And so we're going to with
the US put together a coalition of
trusted partners that are Arab that are
willing to go in uh and start bringing
peace to the region. It has to be
something like that. I don't know that
that's going to be easy as Egypt
obviously puts up walls and is like [ __ ]
that we are not bringing Palestinians
in. Which I'm always shocked that people
don't look at that. Uh,
I don't know of any nations, and maybe I
am just blind, but I don't know of any
nations clamoring to get Palestinian
refugees into their country. And it's
entirely I I think that people would do
well to map that a very meaningful
percentage of people in Palestine,
especially now, support Hamas. So, do
you want that kind of
>> You're saying there is a meaningful I
>> I think it's the I don't know this. I am
not on the ground in Palestine, but if
I'm looking at this situation going,
man, I see a lot of footage of people
cheering for like dead bodies of
Israelis,
>> uh, that
>> even if Israel brought it on themselves,
>> that there are many, many people in
Palestine that are pro- Hamas, given
that Hamas is a terrorist organization,
I'm not asking you to change your belief
if you believe that Israel forced them
to be that, whatever.
>> But it is that. And so now that it is
that uh if Canada became a terrorist
state because America pushed them into
it, I still have to deal with them like
a terrorist state. I'm not going to be
like, "Well, my bad. So go ahead and
kill a bunch of my people." Nope. Not
going to be that way. So uh people need
to brace themselves for that. Now, if
there are specific I feel like every
time we talk about this topic, I want
specific uh arguments. If people are
making about what I'm saying, I want a
chance to address them. So if you see
something coming up, please do point
them out.
>> Uh Mason, I'll let you scan through
that. Uh we have one more clip to round
out our Israel Palestine uh section.
Mike Bence retweeted this clip in Sedet
Khan's London. It is apparently now a
crime to be openly Jewish in the middle
of a public space because it might stir
bad feelings amongst leftist
anti-semmites.
>> Uh I feel like this was taken out of
context, but let's play it.
>> No, no, no. I've watched this. This is
crazy. Crazy. You have to start it over
cuz I'm talking over and he's talking
very quiet. This is wild. So rewind it.
>> And let let me just say you're about to
hear somebody say you're very openly
Jewish and that's a problem.
Is there any context in which it's like,
"Oh, that's fine." Unless you're at a
private event. It's like uh they're
having a um
we don't like Jews rally and you roll up
into the private event.
>> Okay. You're trespassing. Whatever.
>> This is a public street.
>> So, all right. Now, now play argue once
once I hear then then you can tell me
how dumb I am.
>> Openly.
>> Pause. We're going to need to translate
this cuz he's so quiet. Uh, you're very
openly Jewish. You're at a pro
Palestinian march.
>> Pro Palestinian march. I'm not accusing
you of anything.
>> I'm not accusing you of anything, but I
am worried about the reaction. You will
be
>> Yep. It cuts. Fair. You will be escorted
out of here now.
[Music]
>> Okay. Uh, I certainly have what I need
to take a stance because there's even if
this guy says I am here to agitate, it
doesn't change my opinion. Not a little
bit.
>> Okay. Um, should we you want to play
this out or we got the first 10 seconds?
>> You tell me.
>> Okay.
>> If there's more that makes your
argument, keep playing it.
>> No, it it's not uh like my argument.
You're This is what's happening, right?
Um, just so people who maybe you're at
home, you're watching. So there's a a
Jewish man on the side of the street.
There's a pro Palestinian march
happening. The cop goes over to you
says, "You're quite openly Jewish. I'm
not accusing you of anything." To me,
the underlying implication of that is I
don't want people to then agitate you.
I'm doing this for your safety. I'm
doing this as a protection. The
equivalent I can use is if there was a
uh the tiki churches in uh
Charlottesville. As they were walking
down, there were other group of people
and then the cops came, hey, you guys
are agitating them. Let's break that up.
Of course, somebody died and all these
other stuff. People don't talk about
that. But so I'm not upset that a police
a police officer is saying, "Hey, this
is a right march. This is a left march
and you're on the right since this is a
leftist and right right thing now. Um,
let me move you over to the side. I just
want to make sure you're good." Like
that. So him trying to kind of pro
preemptively disarm the situation
>> isn't an attack from my perspective, but
I am assuming good intent. So, I'm
assuming that the cop is saying this cuz
he wants to help this guy and he's not
actually he's not arrested. They don't
get arrested in this footage.
That's my thing. You're saying it
doesn't matter. I'm allowed to stay in
wherever I want.
>> That is correct.
>> Copy.
>> If this guy wants to go and agitate
>> and he goes there and is like, uh, I
disagree with everything you guys stand
for. This is horrible. You guys hate
Jews. Uh, this is terrible. I wish that
you weren't even allowed to march. Um,
and then that guy has to worry about his
safety. Who's the bad guy?
>> The agitator, right?
>> Hard pass. What is happening?
>> Hold on. You said you said if you said
if there's a peaceful protest going on
and this guy's an agitator.
>> Yes. And then he has to worry for his
safety. Who's the bad guy? Please don't
ignore the fact that I said and he now
has to worry about his safety.
>> The agitator has to worry about his
safety.
>> Correct.
Okay. So, okay. Hypothetical because I
feel like this is a little bit more like
up in the air, right? Um Andrew W said,
"Uh, but what if he was black? They were
racist." So, okay. Let's let's let's
make this super like super on the nose,
right?
>> It already is. He is a Jew at a pro
Palestinian march. We do not have to
make this about black and white. You've
got a Jew who is at a pro Palestinian
march. And you're telling me
>> that because he is Jewish, they should
escort him away because he has to worry
about his safety. What I'm saying is
that is ridiculous. Let me give you
another one. There was a I should have
grabbed this footage. It makes me so mad
when I see something that I don't
realize is going to stick to my ribs.
>> Uh,
>> same, same.
>> No, totally different. But there was a
guy who burned a Quran,
>> lit that [ __ ] on fire, and a guy with a
knife came after him and was slashing.
He doesn't stab him as far as I know.
And they, but you see him. I saw it with
my own eyes. He is slashing at that
[ __ ] with a knife. He clearly
does not care if he hits him or not.
Now, he's not stabbing cuz I think there
was some restraint there, but he's like
slashing in front of him as hard as he
can trying to make contact.
>> He knocks the guy down. He kicks the guy
while he's on the ground multiple times.
Another guy kicks him on the ground.
>> Who's the villain?
>> The guy with the knife.
>> Correct. Okay.
>> So, I'm saying it is very offensive to
burn a Quran. Very offensive. You're the
villain if you go after the guy with a
knife. It is offensive for some if you
burn an American flag. You're the bad
guy if you go after the person burning
the flag with a knife. If you punch a
guy for burning a flag, you're the bad
guy. And so I'm saying being Jewish at a
pro Palestinian rally does not make you
the bad guy. If this guy has to fear for
his safety, but
>> the people who are going to attack him
are the bad guy. So I'm saying this cop
is like, "Yo, yo, yo, bro, I'm worried
about your safety. We're going to have
to move you over here." It's like, hold
on. don't let anybody attack me. And if
he's like, "Okay, listen." Like, we
could just get overwhelmed. There's not
enough of us. These guys are getting
agitated, like, "Hey, man. I'm I'm ready
and willing to take you over there." And
if this guy says, "Nope, I want to stay
here. I have every right to stay here."
And the guy says, "Okay, but we can't
protect you." Cool. Totally get it. The
cop made it clear. He wants to do his
best, but like, "Hey, I'll call for
backup, but they may not get here in
time." And if he's just trying to keep
him safe, word. But I want to be
abundantly clear. This guy shouldn't
have to worry about his safety by being
at a pro Palestinian march ever under
any circumstance. Even if he's there
yelling like a lunatic, unless that guy
starts violence, he should not have to
worry about his safety. Now, if he
becomes violent, he should instantly
have to worry about his safety.
>> But is is he okay? So, we always talk
about freedom of speech, but not freedom
of consequence. So, if he's calling a
bunch of people slurs and somebody hits
him in the mouth,
>> yeah,
>> the person who punched him the person
who punches him is the bad guy. Okay. Of
course. So, I could be at a I could be
at a protest. I can agitate. I can say
anything, but as long as I'm not
physically violent with anybody, I
should be protected.
>> Correct. That's the whole idea of
peaceful protest.
>> But you you should be able to protest
and counterprotest. Now, there are
regulations about when and where you can
do it. You have to like get your right
permits and all that, but assume that
somebody has done that. All I'm trying
to say is
people should not be afraid that they're
going to be attacked for being Jewish in
public under any circumstance.
>> Okay? We have no reason to believe that
this guy is agitating. I'm I'm pushing
it that far so people can get real
morally clear on this. But he isn't
doing that. So I'm just saying, bro, we
are going down a weird slope when people
are like, "Listen, I can't control them.
They might get crazy." It it dude, this
is exactly the same as telling a woman,
you can't wear a skirt that short
because someone might want to rape you.
It's like, hold the [ __ ] phone. I
should be able to I should be able to
walk around nude. And not only should I
be able to count on people coming up and
putting a coat on me to make sure that
I'm safe and okay, uh I certainly
shouldn't have to be worried about
getting raped. And if somebody brings
up, let's say it's my wife, because it's
very weird. I keep saying me. Uh, my
wife gets raped and in the court
documents someone was like, "Well, her
skirt was pretty short. Get the [ __ ]
out." That's stupid. That's a level of
absurdity. We're accepting something in
society that is so moronic.
A pro Palestinian person should not have
to fear for their safety in a Jewish
march. So, dude, this is wild. I don't
understand. Everybody should be going,
"Okay, look, the cops trying to protect
him, but if this guy doesn't want to
move, everybody should understand the
bad guy or anybody that would make this
guy feel unsafe." That's wild. Just
like, "Hey, you're at a Charlie Kirk
rally and there's one guy there that's
wearing a shirt that's like, I'm glad
Charlie Kirk died." That person should
not be in fear for their life under any
circumstance. That's insane.
>> Um,
yeah, I guess. Um, I feel like we want
internet rules to apply in real life.
Like,
>> no, no, no. We We want a civil society.
We want to be able to disagree with
people and it not turn violent.
>> Yeah. So, then debate them. Talk to
them.
>> Great.
>> And the cop coming here and saying,
"Hey, I'm worried. To me, this is like
this is good policing to me is that he's
worried about his safety." Now, if he
>> is good policing if he forces him to
leave,
>> if he's forcing him to leave, no. And
there's no threat. are completely on the
same page. No, but my thing is like the
cop like presenting it to him like I
don't think that's crazy that the cop is
like, "Hey,
>> emotions are kind of high right now. Are
you sure you're like I appreciate that
part?" Okay, that's where I was
confused. I was like, "Wait, the cop
can't even like is the cop wrong for
assuming that that would get left."
>> If the cop is like, "Listen, I'm not
going to be able to get back up here in
time. All is well." But what I'm saying
is we are casually accepting that the
opening line is you are obviously openly
Jewish and this is a pro Palestinian
march. That's already not okay.
>> Okay.
>> So not not that he shouldn't say the
words that he has to say the words.
Okay?
If you become violent, you are the
problem. You don't have to tell me why
the person became violent unless the
other person is violent. Now, if
somebody comes in and throws a punch,
yep, I you're going to get your ass
beat. Fair. If you come in and say
words,
nope. If you come in and are obviously
Jewish. So, again, this to me, this
comes down to people are not reading
enough books. When the pograms happen,
when people turn on Jews, it breaks bad.
It gets violent. A whole bunch of people
die and people give up their humanity.
And it happens over and over and over in
history. And there's no thing you can
tell me about what the Jews are doing
and controlling the money supply. uh for
me to go, "Oh, yeah, cool. Then go kill
a bunch of them." That is so wild.
People have forfeited their humanity at
that point.
>> Um, cool. That's all I got.
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