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All right, let's jump right into it,
guys. Um,
>> I really want to start with this Russia
Ukraine thing because I'm gonna be
honest, I did not see this coming. Um,
Trump doing a 100% 180, like completely
flip-flopping on his position. Let's
take it straight from his mouth or his
tweets. After getting to know and fully
understand the Ukraine Russia military
and economic situation and after seeing
the economic trouble is causing Russia,
I think Ukraine with the support of the
European Union is in a position to fight
and win all of Ukrainian all of Ukraine
back in its original form. With time,
patience and the financial support of
Europe and in particular NATO, the
original borders from where this war
started is very much an option. Why not?
Russia has been fighting aimlessly for
three and a half years. a war that
should have taken a real military power
less than a week to win. This is not
distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is
very much making them look like a paper
tiger. When the people living in Moscow
and all of the great cities, towns, and
districts all throughout Russia find out
what is going on with this war, the fact
that it's almost impossible for them to
get gasoline through the long lines that
are being formed, and all of the other
things that are taking place in this in
their war economy where most of their
money is being spent on fighting
Ukraine, which has great spirit and only
getting better. Ukraine will be able to
take back their country in its original
form. And who knows, maybe even go
further than that. There was not a
period in those last four lines. I just
want to let everybody know that.
>> Dude, these things are hard. This is
like interpretation. We need a Rosetta
Stone.
>> I was like, wait, that's the most run-on
runon. Putin and Russia are in big
economic trouble and this is the time
for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish
both countries well. We will continue to
supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do
what they want with them. Good luck to
all. Donald J. Trump, President of the
United States. The good luck to y'all is
like when your parents go to sleep and
they let you like stay up after the
sleepover. He's like, "You guys need
anything?" All right. Well, I'm going to
go to bed. Good night and y'all figure
it out. Don't blow up my house. I feel
like that's kind of how Trump is
insinuating this. What's your first read
when you heard this tweet?
>> So, I actually think that he's right. I
just don't know that this is um that
this is a good sign. So, this one really
is. You've got a prolonged war coming
your way. You're already into year
three. this is not going anywhere. Putin
is making a stand. Um I think that
Trump's take that any if America had
gone into a country the size of Ukraine,
we would have if we had the will, we
would have been able to just absolutely
run over them.
>> So did Putin just want to try to
preserve Ukraine and he's like, "Listen,
these are effectively Russian people. We
don't want to go in and steamroll them.
We could have, but we're not going to."
Um or is he really not prepared to fight
a overwhelming battle where he he just
goes in blitz takes him over shock and
awe and gets them folded back in within
you know 3 days.
>> If he isn't prepared to pull that off
then Trump is right. Europe can mount an
offensive work with Ukraine push them
back. Um I just don't know what the
right calculus is on that. no matter
what the calculus is on that, that's
just going to mean more people dying.
But Trump is right that when you're at
war, the only thing that people are
going to respect is a show of force. And
it's been really weird. So I lived the
vast majority of my life in the period
where I was sort of coming out of um the
Vietnam era, but for the most part like
it my life was the period where things
were peaceful for people in the Western
world. And it wasn't until 911 that that
really began to change. But now seeing
us go back to an old way of like borders
are not necessarily these um sacred
things that there are border disputes
and we're as nations we're going to push
in and do military intervention to try
to reunify or whatever the case may be
in the given border dispute.
>> But that is ugly. And we have seen
historically how many people die when
you start getting into this. And so this
is one of those things that I really
hoped would fizzle out that we would get
to some sort of negotiated settlement.
Now that we're talking about involving
Europe
th this is how you end up with a
conflict that just continues to grow.
And I don't want to say that I see any
indication that this becomes a world
war, but it's when you can't get these
kind of smoldering fires out, they do
continue to present a clear and present
danger. So, uh I am concerned.
>> Yeah, I mean technically we involved
Europe in the middle of this year when
Trump started taking a step back and
then that's when all the other uh PMs,
prime ministers got together and then
they started like aiding. But I don't
think we're getting to the point of
boots on the ground. Do you think that
this is just going to be kind of the
perpetual war? Because I remember you
said Russia is known for its cananan
fighter kind of resilience where they
will just line up body after body to
kind of just outpace you maybe.
>> Yes, that's true. However, I think
people need to understand that warfare
has fundamentally changed in the last I
don't know 20 years
>> and it is it's going to be a proxy war.
And so whether we get to boots on the
ground or not I think is pretty
irrelevant. If the US, if Europe
buys a bunch of weapons from the US,
then they send that to Ukraine. The
Ukraine then becomes aggressive into
Russia. They start trying to push back.
Uh, and the words will be, we're just
going to take back the areas that are
already ours. But the way that you're
going to do that, you get into the fight
and you suddenly realize, oh, your eyes
are vulnerable, so I'm going to poke at
your eyes. Your nuts are vulnerable, so
I'm going to try to knee you in the
nuts. And so they're at some point if
they don't settle this down, they will
start using those weapons to push into
Russia as a way to say, "Hey, back off."
>> Uh we didn't want to have to strike
Moscow or wherever they go after, but
you're forcing our hand. And so that's
how these kinds of things ratchet up. Uh
so again, boots on the ground is not my
fear. I don't think there's political
will for that in Europe. I don't think
there's political will for that in the
US. But these are all games of narrative
manipulation
and we need to recognize the way that
this kind of thing could play out. I'm
not saying this is how it's going to
play out. I'm saying this is the kind of
thing that makes me concerned.
>> So, uh, Europe begins to ally behind
Ukraine. They're buying weapons from the
US, which Trump does willingly because
he's angry with Putin.
Now Ukraine is able to launch more
strikes behind enemy lines inside of
Russia like they did with the drones.
They do an aggressive assault to try to
push them back. That then triggers Putin
to be more aggressive. And if Putin
keeps it confined to Ukraine, great. But
if Putin starts carrying out even like
terroristic style bombings or whatever
in another uh country or proves he's
already proven that he's willing to
poison people inside of somebody else's
country. So if he starts retaliating
even in ways like that where he's trying
to hide behind plausible deniability,
you just start ratcheting things up. And
then the narrative control will spin
like crazy. And if everybody's aligned,
if you can get the right and left
aligned around needing to back Ukraine,
then the narrative machinery is going to
go into like overdrive, convincing
America that sending money at a minimum,
sending weapons, uh sending like
training troops, that kind of thing is
like a really standard way to get this
stuff to escalate or even just upping
our presence in Europe. You see how this
stuff could continue to snowball. Then
if they really do start backing Putin
into a corner, if for Putin this starts
to be existential, even just because his
own country starts to believe, oh, maybe
we really never should have done this.
Oh, maybe we really are a paper tiger,
then all of a sudden he's got to do
something dramatic. And I don't Putin is
not giving me any indication that the
dramatic thing he's going to do is
withdraw. And so if you push him into a
position where he feels the only thing
that he can do is something dramatic on
the offensive, that's how you terraform
people's mindsets that Putin is bad guy.
We have to do something about this.
We've got to get him out. Things are
escalating. Putin just did really bad
thing. Poison somebody, whatever.
Whatever.
>> Uh or just launching u an attack on
Ukraine that steps over some sort of
line. And then you can see that being
used as the never let a good crisis go
to waste and we are drawn in more deeply
even if that's just economically. So
that would be my concern.
>> And then now from like Russia's
perspective because I feel like right
now we're getting a very western kind of
lens of this. How can the US are US eyes
looking at Ukraine looking at taking on
this big monster of Russia? From
Russia's perspective, what does Putin
have to worry about? like as long as his
his uh constituents aren't starving, he
can just continue this war. Is there any
internal pressures from the Russian side
that you think Putin is
>> depends on what's happening on the
ground and there are reports I assume
it's all manipulation but there are
reports that his economy is weakening
that people are standing I don't know if
I think gas lines is a thing that
they're talking about.
>> Um so if the internal economic pressure
becomes too much it will become harder
for Putin. Uh but this is the joys of a
dictatorship is you can keep people in
line pretty well and uh Russia had the
chance to become a true democracy in the
'9s. That isn't how things played out.
So it's really fascinating to watch
culturally what happens like in China,
what happens in Russia is there is a
sense of stability even if it's
stability under a tyrant is better than
instability. And Russia went through
this insane instability in the '9s. You
had the rise of the oligarchs. the
oligarchs come in essentially snatch
everything up. Uh people don't love that
and so you end up getting Putin who
comes in starts ruling with the iron
fist again. And even if it's just a
return to the familiar, people seem to
take to it. So if Putin is able to rule
with that iron fist, tell people um a
narrative internally backed up by force
that feels very and this is where I have
to fully express my cultural ignorance
to the Russians. So, you know,
>> I don't know exactly how this will play
out, but uh if he's able to tell them a
story that feels right for them, like,
hey, I'm hammering people down with this
iron fist. It's for your own good. Um or
because we have to save the Russian
people that are um I don't know how he
would represent it, but are being forced
to be Ukrainianized because they really
are. They pass legislation that makes it
illegal to speak Russian language in
certain um within Ukraine and there are
certain towns within Ukraine that are
first language Russian. So um yeah I
don't know how he's spinning it to his
people but it is very possible that he's
able to get everybody behind him between
a combination of completely controlling
the media and then using force. So, um,
how long that will last, I would need a
way clearer picture of the economic
reality on the ground because remember
everything you're being told if you're
not reading ground news is a spin. It's
just all spin, dude. Up, down, left,
right. Even just look at what's going on
with Charlie Kirk. It's just spin, spin,
spin, spin, spin. You can tell something
is fake. Uh, you just don't know what.
So, without like, and even going to
Russia, I don't know that you would get
a clear picture. So, you'd have to be
hearing voices from Russia that somehow
are getting out unfiltered information,
which Russia's not exactly known for.
>> Yeah. Somebody in the chat said that um
Putin just needs a good out so that way
he can save face. Like, is it one of
those things where if we can just if the
great negotiator and Donald Trump can
just negotiate a good
>> I would have believed that three months
ago maybe even. But it it's pretty clear
after what happened in Alaska that Putin
is Yeah. Whatever. What do you need,
Drum? Uh, you need me to say that,
>> uh, this never would have happened if it
wasn't for you. I'll tell you whatever
you want because I'm going to drag this
on and I'm going to buy myself as much
time as humanly possible to get my
agenda. But I have an agenda. I will
glad you. I will say the nice things. I
will say the things you want to hear. I
will come to the table, but I have my
agenda and I'm going to push my agenda.
And so, there's a really great quote
that I read years and years ago that
said, "Don't trust what somebody says.
don't even necessarily trust what they
do, but always always trust a pattern.
>> And the pattern in Putin's behavior is
that he'll come to the negotiating
table, he'll say he's close, he'll say
he wants an end to this. And then
literally he'll be like in the meeting
with you be like, "Hold on a sec. Yeah,
go ahead and drop those bombs." You're
like, "Wait a second, but you just said
that like we want to Yeah. No, 100% we
do." Yeah. No, go ahead and double the
bombs you're going to drop. It's like,
"What is happening right now?" If you've
ever seen those skits where it's like
you know I can hear you right so that is
the pattern
>> and so given that that's the pattern
that's the only thing that I trust he is
going to keep pushing forward now I
don't know that I have I know I don't
have any unique insight into his mind
and I don't know if my read is right
that he is um he wants to leave a legacy
he wants that legacy to be the reun
unification of the USSR.
>> He's a former KGB agent. Uh this is
somebody who understands propaganda. He
understands the power of lying. He
understands the power of holding a
frame. So it's like this is somebody
that you can't trust that the words they
say represent the vision in their mind.
So yeah, I don't I don't think it's as
simple as, oh, he's just looking for an
exit ramp because then it's like that's
part of his legacy is, oh, I lost that
match.
>> So until I think until he sees that, oh
snap, like there's no way for me to win
this,
>> I don't think he's going to exit. Even
if you gave him a really good exit ramp,
I think he's going to say, no, that's
not good legacy. Good legacy is
reunification.
and he may um from like if he's got even
grander ambitions because a lot of these
these guys uh who don't have to get
reelected, they think in really long
time horizons
>> and he may even be thinking about I will
eventually have a successor and I want
to set them up and I want uh mother
Russia to continue on for another
hundred years beyond me. And so that's
reunification, that's whatever. And so
he may have a vision in his head of the
chess pieces that he has to move into an
exact position even if he can't get it
all the way across the line. Um that he
does not want Russia or the surrounding
states to be European. He does not want
them to be Western. These are guesses,
but they certainly line up with the way
that he's behaving. And so if he's got
that story in his head, and remember
when um Tucker asked him like, "How do
we end up here?" He started back in like
the whatever 1400s. I don't remember the
exact year, but it was like talking
hundreds of years.
>> This isn't like last week you guys did
something and now I'm getting beef.
Yeah.
>> And once you understand, oh, this is
somebody who has a historical
perspective of their country. Uh don't
expect them to tap out just because they
have an offer.
>> We shall see. Um let's jump into this
Jimmy Kimmel uh news. He returned
yesterday. Um I'm going to play a couple
different clips. The whole monologue is
18 minutes, so we can't go through all
of it, but um this is what he had to say
about um in response to the Charlie Kirk
reaction to his original monologue.
>> I don't think what I have to say is
going to make much of a difference. If
you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't. I have no illusions about
changing anyone's mind. But I do want to
make something clear because it's
important to me as a human, and that is
you understand that it was never my
intention to make light of the murder of
a young man. I I don't
I don't think there's anything funny
about it. I I posted a message on
Instagram on the day he was killed
sending love to his family and asking
for compassion and I meant it and I
still do. Uh nor was it my intention to
blame any specific group for the actions
of what it was obviously a deeply
disturbed individual. That was really
the opposite of the point I was trying
to make. But I understand that to some
that felt either illtimed or unclear or
maybe both. And for those who think I
did uh point a finger, I get why you're
upset. If the situation was reversed,
there's a good chance I'd have felt the
same way. I have many friends and family
members on the other side who I love and
remain close to, even though we don't
agree on politics at all. I don't think
the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk
represents anyone. This was a sick
person who believed violence was a
solution, and it isn't. It ever. And
also selfishly
I am
>> whether you agree with him or disagree
with him, you've got to let the business
model run its course. Like if this guy
has no views and there's no ratings,
then it will die of its own accord.
>> Going in and trying to push this because
you hate him and you hate what he says
and you want to see him taken off the
air,
>> it it is a weapon. it is an energy that
is going to come back to you. And so
again, even though I do think that he
handles himself well in this monologue
and I watched the whole thing, this is
just a truncated version of it, but uh
encourage people to watch the whole
thing. Make up your own mind, but I
don't want to see him booted for any
reason other than the show isn't popular
or the network is like, "Man, you're
creating too many headaches for us. We
want to get you out."
So when you have people from the Trump
admin like campaigning this is hate
speech, we can't have this kind of
thing. Uh what was the car quote was
like we can do this the easy way or the
hard way. It's like man you don't want
that because we already live through it
with Biden. We already live through it
with Biden. See the part from the intro
with YouTube um censoring people under
pressure from the Biden admin. And the
goal is not to use those tools more
effectively against the other side. The
goal is to say this is absolutely
moronic. This is not how we move
forward. And then just as a reminder,
and I really hope that people that are
here for this show uh are on board with
the idea that we absolutely must find a
way to the middle. And if I can just
remind everybody this is an evolutionary
game. So society
is possible because evolution the blind
watch maker looked at it and went oh I
have to balance two things. I have to
balance the um right who's all personal
responsibility all the time. Go do your
thing. Nothing else matters.
>> Uh a lot of individualism becomes hard
to get the cohesion
uh of the group because you're just
selflessly taking care of other people.
And when from an evolutionary
perspective, you don't have
refrigerators. You have to store
calories on other people's bodies by
saying, "Okay, I got this hunt, but you
didn't." And so I'm going to share with
you, but then you need the right to
balance that because the second somebody
goes, "Oh, you're going to share with me
word. I don't have to do [ __ ] You'll
come back. You'll feed me and I'll be
able to free ride." And it's known as a
free load free uh loader problem or free
rider problem. I forget think free
loader problem. And from an evolutionary
perspective, once those two things are
in dynamic tension, so that and and it's
obviously evolution wasn't thinking
right and left. It's just trying the
reason that we break politically along
those lines is because there's an
evolutionary break along those lines in
terms of personalities that the group
needs. So the group needs compassion,
but that can go pathological. The group
needs personal responsibility, but that
can go pathological. And so you want
that dynamic tension. You want people
that that have those traits that we say
thusly tend towards the left to call out
for compassion. And you want the people
on the right who tend towards personal
responsibility, um, carrying your
weight, that kind of thing, to call out
for we don't accept freeloaders, like
you've got to do your part. And when
you've got both sides sort of competing
with each other, you get something
great. I see the same thing in business.
You get a CEO and you get an operator.
and they tend to be very um opposing
personality types and oftentimes I have
had to mediate those even when I'm
teaching entrepreneurs in impact theory
university I have to teach them like
this you want people you you have to
respect the other person so if you're
the operator you have to respect the
dreamer and the person that can be
unreasonable and actually get things
done and push things forward and vice
versa and if you don't want that dynamic
tension you end up in a problem So Jimmy
Kimmel to me is a symbol of that. I
don't agree with a lot of the things
that Jimmy Kimmel says. I think that
late night has become far less about
comedy and far more about preaching, but
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people are allowed to say the things
that they want to say. I don't want to
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>> Um, Trump had a response to it. This is
what he uh truthfed out. I can't believe
ABC fake news gave Jimmy Kimmel his job
back. The White House was told by ABC
that his show was canceled. Something
happened between then and now because
his audience is gone and his talent was
never there. Why would they want
somebody someone back who does so
poorly, who's not funny, who puts the
network in jeopardy by playing 99%
positive Democrat garbage? He is yet
another arm of the DNC. And to the best
of my knowledge, that would be a major
illegal campaign contribution. I think
we're going to test ABC out on this.
Let's see how we do. Last time I went
after them, they gave me $16 million.
This one sounds even more lucrative. A
true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kibble
rot in bad ratings.
>> Okay, this is exactly the kind of thing
that I'm saying we don't want. So, look,
if Trump were a citizen and he were
saying that and saying, "Look, the ABC
is given governmental funding or free
airwaves. I forget uh the exact
mechanism but all of the networks they
get all of the like core networks I
forget which ones qualify for this
non-cable
>> they get the airwaves access to the
airwaves for free and so for that
they're supposed to present balanced
coverage. Okay. Does Jimmy Kimmel
present balanced coverage? Absolutely
not. Does the network as a whole present
balanced coverage? Probably not. I don't
watch enough of it, but I I am willing
to bet that they don't. Uh, fine. If we
want to say, listen, this whole thing is
stupid. Whether you're on the right or
the left, everything is breaking along
partisan lines. Nobody is getting a fair
shot. None of this is balanced. And so,
we're going to just uh auction off those
airwaves. And all of these guys in the
age of social media, in the age of the
internet, they can find another way to
get to people. And they will, and go for
it. that I would get. But when you start
singling out a show and saying
essentially we're going to sue you as
the president of the United States,
dude, this is people who don't value
free speech. They say they value free
speech, but in reality they're engaging
in a war of partisan hackery, quite
frankly,
>> but they're battling for narrative
control. If I were Trump, and as the
president, I would say exactly the
following. It's clear that it's
completely broken down that the airwaves
are no longer something that taxpayers
should be paying for. So I think
everybody right, left, center, doesn't
matter. Nobody should be getting this
for free anymore. We've obviously gone
down a path where balance is not what we
prize
>> and we already cut funding to PBS, NPR,
so he's already getting that
>> pull all of that. We're we're in the
internet age. Everything is different.
Uh, and by the way, thank the Lord that
there are so many incredible voices on
the right from his perspective on my
team that exist on the internet. And so
this information is getting out there.
>> Great. The thing that I that drives me
crazy about the sort of unified voice on
the right when it comes to this stuff is
they act as if they don't have a voice.
They act as if somehow mainstream media
is ever going to change. And that what
they want them to do is like mayulpa
like oh my god I can't believe that
we've been propagandistic. It's like
everybody is propaganda. The right is
propaganda. The left is propaganda. And
so I don't know. It just seems it's so
theatrical and so pointless. We're we're
in a hyper populist moment. Everybody is
trapped in a frame of reference.
Everybody is going to give you their
take from their side. Instead of like
banging pots and pans and saying like
they should be saying XYZ thing,
dismantle their argument. Take their
arguments apart. Win people over because
your ideas are tethered to reality. And
if your ideas aren't tethered to
reality, they should lose in the public
marketplace. But that isn't the game
that we decide to play. And listen, I've
got more beef with the way that the
Biden administration handled this
because it was so surreptitious, so
behind the scenes, so pervasive. Because
online is far more important
>> than traditional legacy TV. They're both
terrible. They're both anti-free speech.
They both need to stop. But if you want
to talk about which one scares me more,
the silent behindthe-scenes censoring of
people and being like, "What do you
mean? What are you talking about? Trump
for all the lunacy in this tweet. At
least he does it out in the open so that
I can hate it publicly.
>> I felt like that was like you had that
one like beat up like built up like
hated it publicly.
>> So when for people to uh when you guys
see the deep dive that I wrote for
Monday, which I hope that you guys will
watch, and thank you by the way. The
deep dives continue to be our best
performing content. You guys are
amazing. I appreciate the trust that you
give them a shot. uh the deep dive
coming out this Monday. I I'm really
trying to figure out what the
foundational building blocks are that
put us at risk for culture falling
apart.
>> Uh our country falling apart. Everybody
knows my beef on economics. While I
mention it in the video, I don't go into
a ton of detail, but one of the things
that I haven't talked a lot about is
freedom of speech. And so I talk a fair
amount about freedom of speech. I really
do consider it one of the core bricks in
this. And so getting this wrong is
lunacy. And America has been the shining
um city on a hill precisely because the
result the results that we've been able
to deliver as a nation are largely due
to the scientific method.
>> The scientific method in public
discourse, the scientific method in the
construction of our government, the
scientific method in businesses in
science. And so once you make freedom of
speech impossible, you make the
scientific method impossible. I don't
talk about it that way in the deep dive,
but you get my underlying thoughts. Uh,
okay. Let's talk about YouTube lying to
people. Um,
Discourse TV just in YouTube admits to
having censored people during the COVID
pandemic and for political reasons
offers terminated creators the
opportunity to rejoin the platform. This
is a section from the full uh I don't
want to say it's a lawsuit, but their uh
congressional address. Uh 23. The
company terminated channels for
repeatedly violating its community
guidelines on elections integrity
content through 2023 and COVID 19
content through 2024. Today, YouTube's
community guidelines allow for a wider
range of content regarding CO 19 and
elections integrity.
Reflecting the company's commitment to
free expression, YouTube will provide an
opportunity for all creators to rejoin
the platform if the company terminated
their channels for repeated violations
of COVID 19 and elections integrity
policies that are no longer in effect.
24. YouTube values conservative voices
on its platform and recognize that these
creators have extensive reach and play
as an important role in civil discourse.
The company recognizes these creators
are among those shaping today's online
consumption, landing mustwatch
interviews, giving viewers a chance to
hear directly from politicians,
celebrities, business leaders, and more.
How do you feel about YouTube saying the
quiet part out loud?
>> You have to at this point. Um I I think
it's very good that they're admitting
this. I think it's very good if they
actually stop censoring people. I just
don't trust it. So, we'll see. Uh one,
we'll see if the Trump admin can get off
of their anti-free speech kick. two, we
will see if when we um flip sides where
the world is at because the Democrats
have already proven they are perfectly
happy to censor. Uh also anybody that is
going towards socialism, they will find
out very quickly that you have to kill
people uh in order to get everybody on
the same page. So it's like that
certainly is even if they want it to be
free speech in the beginning, they'll
never get there because they will
understand very quickly people me if
nobody else will make very compelling
arguments as to why what they're
proposing won't work. That's going to be
very detrimental to their platform. And
so they are going to realize, oh man, we
just got to shut up a few of these
people. And uh this really is something
I talked about in my deep dive. Killing
works. It is so expedient to kill
somebody is just so effective. You never
have to worry about them ever again. And
so this is why all throughout human
history, if somebody's really a pain in
your ass, you just kill them. So, uh,
don't expect that to go anywhere anytime
soon. People are going to keep doing
that. So, yeah, that one scares me. So,
I want to see YouTube really stick with
this, but I don't think it is a um
deeply ingrained value that they have. I
think it is economically expedient right
now.
>> Um let's kind of dive into this because
right now it seems like they're talking
specifically about CO 19 and elections
integrity. The elections integrity, uh
Dominion USA nearly bankrupt Fox News.
They've settled that case. That's done.
That's old news now. CO 19, everybody,
it seems, flipped their positions or at
least has now added more nuance to it.
We were all suffering at the time. Now
that we kind of have more information,
we realize, okay, we could have handled
that better.
>> Is this just something that they're
trying to do to kind of save face or is
this something
>> dollars money period? End of story.
>> The Listen, if people have a mental
framework that says, "Hey, there are
things that you can say they're just too
dangerous."
>> I can't let you say that. When when I
read James Burnham, I was like, dude,
we're we're really in a place that I
don't know how it plays out. And that
place is narrative control works.
Narrative control is important. We need
shared narratives and it will never
happen again. So I was like, whoa, that
era is over. That era lasted for
thousands of years. Thousands of years.
you could control what people in your
tribe believed because it was like,
well, the chief said this is what it is
and everybody's going to get on board
with it. Even when the printing press
came, it's like, well, it's getting
harder, but a printing press is so
expensive. There's going to be very few
people that can actually get all the way
to having a book done. Uh, if you don't
like what the guy that wrote the book
says, you lock him up forever. You exile
him. You make him take poison, whatever,
which they routinely did. Uh, so you you
kill enough authors and it's like, yeah,
people tend to say what we want them to
say. Uh now with social media the game
is over and so now what happens? So
you're in a world where let's say co is
popping off.
>> Mhm.
>> And please give them the benefit of the
doubt to make the thought experiment
difficult. You give them the benefit of
the doubt that they actually believe
that you're spreading misinformation
that will kill people. What do you do?
Do you still let them say it? Like
you've got Joe Rogan. So many people
believe this is their perspective. So
many people listen to him. He's an
unhinged lunatic. Their perspective.
He's an unhinged lunatic. He's killing
people with the thing that he's saying.
Bro, we've got to take him down. And if
you actually believe that his words are
killing people, don't you have a moral
obligation to stop him? And what if his
words are killing millions of people?
Don't you really have a moral? Like how
much do you actually believe in freedom
of speech? So I'm telling you, you have
to look inward and go, am I prepared to
live in a world where freedom of speech
really does because it's so messy and
people are going to debate it and a bad
idea is going to take hold and maybe we
don't even really know and so maybe
people really are dying because that
information was just super catchy and it
just spread like wildfire and everybody
believed it, but it was killing a whole
lot of people. and freedom of speech
will eventually bring us back around
because other voices will go, "Hey, this
is killing people and here it is. Here's
the evidence." And people are allowed to
study what they want, say what they
want. And so we get there, but we did
kill a whole lot of people with
misinformation.
>> Mhm.
>> I Tom Billu am prepared to live in that
world because I am so much more like I
would rather die because I man I'm
listening and I'm doing my best and
okay, I took that information and I made
a decision with the best information
that I had available. Oops. and now I'm
dead and I'm on my deathbed. I'm not
going to betray my belief and be like,
"People should be forced to shut the
[ __ ] up." I'm gonna say, "I miss this
one and it sucks and these are huge
consequences and I'm going to
immediately turn my thoughts to my wife
and the people that I've loved and
they'll love me and I'm so glad I got to
go on the ride."
>> Other people are going to be like, "No,
no, no. We got to shut people up. We
know better."
>> I am so afraid of that tyranny. Uh,
dude, I've tried I've tried to get
people to read. You only need to read
three books. And if you read those three
books and are like, "Yeah, tyrannical
rule is still better." Okay. Uh, we have
assessed the world very differently. I
am not prepared to be tortured for
months to get a false confession out of
me because people want to control the
narrative. Not cool with that. Don't
want that. That's the hill I would die
on. And so, yeah, not playing that game.
So, whatever world is born out of free
speech, I am prepared to live in that
world. Even if we go through periods of
like dramatic problems, it is far better
than the and this is a real stat. This
is a real stat. This is a real stat.
In the 20th century alone,
in the 20th century alone, 200 million
people were killed by their government.
Hard pass.
>> Wow.
>> Hard pass. So look, I don't expect
everybody to adopt my beliefs. I think
it is good that there is dynamic tension
between people who think like me and
people who think another way. And yes,
we have to find a shared existence down
the middle. But oh my god, I don't know
how people don't look at Ma China at
Stalin's uh Russia or Lenin's Russia for
that matter and go quite literally over
my dead body.
>> I I I'm like conflicted right now,
right? Because when I was growing up,
usually when a doctor says, "Hey guys,
we think this thing is bad for you.
Maybe you should stop it a little bit."
We'll be like, "Okay, give me two
seconds. Let me do my own independent
research. Let me see." But the amount of
videos and Tik Toks of pregnant women
just facing Tylenol
is kind of crazy. All right, I'll take
this at the beginning. So, um, this is
Dr. eyes on the Fox News show um talking
about the link that they established
between Tylenol and autism specifically
for pregnant women during a specific
time in their pregnancy. Um so this is
not if you pop a Tylenol you turn
autistic. It is Tylenol does a certain
thing that breaks down the barrier in
your brain that can then allow
hyperactivity
uh like diseases. is I don't know what
the proper term is hyperactive uh
diseases to be more prone. So while it's
not causality there is a correlation
that he established.
>> Secretary Kennedy and the three agency
heads uh Jay Marty and myself we know
that it people who take Tylenol for
prolonged periods of time during
pregnancy seem to have a higher
incidence of autism in aggregate. So the
message is don't is not never take
Tylenol. It's take Tylenol judiciously.
Take it by talking with your doctor.
Make sure there's an important reason to
take it. Don't take it willy-nilly
because you think it's so safe it
couldn't possibly cause a problem
because don't those assumptions appear
to be erroneous. Okay, we believe
>> boom and then shortly after if you run
to uh Tik Tok it was just a bunch of
>> this is wild. This is what what are you
doing?
>> They are literally taking a drug. they
don't presumably need. She's dancing and
does not seem to be in any sort of pain.
Uh
to prove a point and the thing that will
pay the biggest price if they're wrong
is the child. That is wild.
>> And then now pulling up a tweet from
March 7, 2017, Tylenol, the company
themselves said, "We actually don't
recommend using any of our products
while pregnant. Thank you for taking the
time to voice your concerns today. Damn.
>> So, they even came out and said, "Hey,
we're not the most safe."
>> But,
>> wow, this dude. Okay, so, uh, PSA,
>> I certainly understand the emotional
impulse when somebody you don't like,
who you believe has authority over you,
is telling you that you have to do
something a certain way. I had the same
reaction when they said you couldn't
burn the flag. I've never had the
impulse to burn a flag ever in my life.
I love America so much you can't
imagine. Uh but when I was being told I
couldn't do it, I had the impulse. But I
would like to remind people I didn't do
it because that's stupid. I was trapped.
Not trapped. I the emotion came from a
frame of reference of having a problem
with authority. Uh
just because you hate Trump and that's
perfectly fine. Everybody has the right
to dislike whoever they want. But if you
are taking again a literal poison,
Tylenol is saying, "Hey, probably not
best to take when you're pregnant. So
you are taking something that possibly
has a negative knock-on effect and you
are doing it in an effort to hurt the
person that you don't like. It is
nonsensical.
So you are trapped inside of your frame
of reference. You are trapped inside of
your hate of somebody and you are
allowing it to make you make bad
decisions. So when you feel that
emotional impulse, man, pull out. This
is why do not trust your emotions. when
I had the emotion
uh I was like yeah I don't trust this
and therefore did not act on it but man
people need to cultivate a distrust of
their own emotions but everybody trusts
themselves so much they are convinced
because they feel it then it must be
true it must be right and you see all
these people acting in accordance man
this is like the one thing if I could
give people just a gift gift it would be
to realize oh you should be skeptical of
your own emotions skeptical in the
extreme they do not always lead you to
your goals.
>> I wish that was the only copy. Um I
can't find the link, but there was a
super cut that had like six pregnant
women all like
>> there's so many I've seen so many of
these things and they think that they
are hurting Trump.
>> Yeah.
>> The right. I don't know man. It's uh it
is it is a very accurate sign of where
we are that I am just going to do the
opposite of whatever you tell me. lit
the exact opposite. This might be bad
for me. I'm falling over myself to not
only do it, but to film it and put it
out. Oh my god. Like you you are
trapped, man. You are trapped. You You
have gotten sucked in to your own mind.
And people just get like lost inside of
a world that isn't really there. They
have told themselves a story about
something and it's not real. and they
are willing to do damage to their unborn
child. They are willing to put their
unborn child at risk.
>> Let's say it in the cleanest way
possible. It's crazy.
>> Uh Dr. Rhonda Patrick, in light of
recent news, it's worth noting that the
association between acetame eg Tylenol
used during pregnancy and childhood
behavior issues is not new. This study
from 2016 found a 30% increase in the
risk of hyperactivity, that was the
word, hyperactivity symptoms among
children, both genders exposed to
acetaphin during pregnancy. In boys,
exposure was also l linked to autism
spectrum disorder symptoms in a
frequency dependent manner. Causation
remains unestablished, but it's exciting
that OBGYNS will be getting guidance on
this increased risk to inform women. And
she retweeted a study that she published
in 2016 and that is what caused Tyler
and all to retweet that at the beginning
of 2017 because it was kind of gaining
steam. But um as much as I want to say,
you know, Maha has a win. They announced
something, this seemed like this is a
older study that they're now resurfacing
and they're bringing it back to life.
>> God bless them.
>> Yeah,
>> God bless them. We So, okay, I am often
asked about um supplements and I am
often given opportunities to uh get
equity in a supplement company for
promoting supplements. Uh just raw
dollars to promote supplements. And I've
always been very hesitant because if
one, if using it, it falls into the
placebo zone, I'm probably not going to
get behind it. If it I don't notice it
at all. I'm definitely not going to get
behind it. And I'm always paranoid about
isolating compounds. Like the number of
times we've been like, "Oh my god, this
thing is good for you." And then people
isolate the compound, they take the life
out of it, and then it creates a
problem. It's like, man, we evolved to
like have to fight for food. It was
scarce. It was in a living thing,
whether that was an animal or a plant.
And so there's like natural balances,
defenses, everything. It's like,
>> so when you start stripping away, like
take juice versus eating an apple. Apple
juice doesn't have the fiber. Okay.
>> So we did not, first of all, apples in
their natural state before we started
crossbreeding them look nothing. We're
macro uh from a macro perspective. We're
nothing like the apples that we have
today. And then on top of that, we're
[ __ ] juicing them. Yeah, boys and
girls, please understand the things that
you put in your body matter a lot and
your body's going to respond to them.
And I know that people will say things
like a calorie is a calorie is a
calorie. And it's like, oh god. If
you're talking only about putting on
fat, maybe. But in terms of you are what
you eat. Your literal cells are made of
the things that you chew and swallow. So
be really thoughtful about the things
that you chew and swallow. That doesn't
mean never have a supplement ever.
Listen, D3, now that I can't get sun
exposure, I'm going to be supplementing
D3. But with a high degree of paranoia
that there's going to be like some
knock-on effect. It is not as good as
getting it naturally from the sun. That
is my default assumption. So look, I
have gut instinct. Gut instinct. My gut
instinct, Drew, is that what we're going
to find over time is that exogenous
substances, meaning some isolated out in
the world that we have changed in some
way and now we are taking to our bodies,
either just because we breathe that
stuff in the air or because it's a food
item, whatever that we are going to see
that all of them are just a little bit
of damage and then they just stack and
stack and stack and stack and stack and
we just are taking way too many little
death of a thousand cuts into our lives
through all of these modern compounds
which are amazing and I'm glad that we
have Tylenol when I have a headache or
something like that. But I'm not just
reaching to it every time I have a
headache. I'm thinking, is this one
that's going to go away? Can I give it
four or five hours and see if it
resolves naturally?
>> Uh if you take that stance of like,
okay, I'm glad these tools exist, but
I'm going to use them only if I really
need them, you're going to be in much
better shape. Obviously, gut instinct. I
am not a doctor.
>> Aren't like 50% of headaches just
dehydration? If you drink a bunch of
water and like relax, it goes away. So
>> listen, I have beef with the whole water
narrative, but it's possible.
>> You have beef with the water with the
water native.
>> Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Everybody lean in. Time stamp this one.
Bookmark it. Uh, bring this one back.
I'm telling you right now.
>> Okay,
>> think from first principles. You're
telling me water, fresh water,
non-stagnant fresh water that is not
present in a lot of places that somehow
we have evolved to need whatever three
gallons or whatever it is, that's not
the right answer obviously, but the
absurd amount that people tell you to
take that we would evolve to need it
like that, get out. I have forever been
like, "No, no, no. There's something so
sus about that recommendation. Now
again, I'm not saying dehydrate
yourself. I'm just saying from an
evolutionary first principles
perspective, clean water was not just
like laying around everywhere. Animals
would have to risk their lives cuz
remember we are not just human. We came
up through millions of years of
evolution where one of the most
dangerous things you would have done is
gone to the watering hole. And so it's
like, nah, that one someone they're
gonna have to explain something. And of
course, now I I am just now starting to
see this could all be conspiracy. I do
not have a clean take. All I have is
suspicion for you. So please recognize
where I'm at on my have researched this
journey. Uh but people are now starting
to come out saying, "Yeah, you can
create like I don't know if it's
electrolytes, but you create a mineral
imbalance because you were just
constantly flushing the system, flushing
the system, flushing the system." There
there's no way we were meant to live in
a perpetual need to pee. Don't buy it.
No way. Hard pass. Like it's just there
there's something there. Uh so I drink a
normal amount of water. You see me
drinking water right now. I drink water
amount of water.
>> If you're thirsty, drink water.
If you're not thirsty, don't drink
water. Like I love my COO and don't even
tell him I said this, but that fool
drinks water like he's got a gun to his
head. I'm like, what are you doing? So
anyway, we'll see.
>> Let's go around the world. Uh the UN
summit started today or yesterday. U
marking its 80th year anniversary and
the UN is on some shaky footing for the
first time in its year. Um there was one
quote in this article I wanted to pull
up. The US is behaving in an incredible
petty way, says Richard Gowim, the UN
director of the international crisis uh
group, a think tank. um from top to
bottom, huge area arenas of the UN's
work, things like poverty alleviation,
things like public health, things like
gender equality, things that
fundamentally anchor the UN's work. The
US is actively working to disrupt them.
Um this is at a time when the UN is
underfunded, overstretched, and under
attack. It lost 40% of its funding since
last year, and aid workers have been
killed in record numbers, mostly in
Gaza. Um
I don't know if I got your take on the
UN. How do you feel about
>&