The Truth About Cancer: Deep Dive with Dr. Li
B4O0OJwa3RY • 2025-03-11
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Kind: captions Language: en so you've made such significant contributions to Medical Science leading breakthroughs and treatments for over 70 diseases including cancer diabetes blindness heart disease and obesity and from your website you made a statement which I'd love to quote here is that you said that when I first set out on my journey to study food as medicine I realized that I was up what what I was up against the food industry did not care about health and the health industry did not care about food I'm a medical scientist and my mission is to bridge both of these worlds to help people everywhere become healthier while enjoying and not being afraid of their food Dr Lee can you explain your inspiration which is so fundamental for everyone's daily life right food is the medicine where did this inspiration come from where did this Awakening this shift um how did it transpire yeah well I grew up in a uh a relatively small City uh Pittsburgh Pennsylvania that was had a lot of ethnic communities and there was a great celebration of culture particularly the foods associated with the cultures so I grew up my you know my childhood was always surrounded by these wonderful Inspirations where people were very proud of their backgrounds and their Heritage and and and the food that came out of it so um you know fast forward to uh my uh my education I I I'm a biochemist so I was trained as a scientist and in fact I have now developed a a very long career as a vascular biolog ologist which means I study blood vessels um and I'm also a doctor I study internal medicine and that means that I take care of men and women uh young and old healthy and sick and my own orientation has always been towards Health now being trained in medicine um you know the focus of most Western Medical Training education is on um diagnosing and addressing illness and in fact I have been actively involved with my research background in helping to develop new biotech oriented treatments for cancer and vision loss and healing wound healing and so I I sort of cut my teeth and I have real street cred in terms of the life sciences and what it takes to um develop a a treatment an intervention uh for for disease but one thing that always uh bugged me was the fact that when you're treating disease it's the horse out of the BN so to speak speak where you've missed the biggest opportunity of all which is to prevent the disease in the first place yes and here we are you know in society uh lamenting about the uh unsustainable cost of Health Care and yet we could actually uh upend that dilemma we could actually solve that dilemma by really preventing uh diseases in the first place and therefore saving the money so we can actually then have the resources to treat those people for whom prevention was not successful and so that always led me to think about prevention uh now when you're talking about diseases you can talk about drugs but you know drugs are expensive they're not always accessible to everyone who needs them even in developed parts of the world um especially in in developing parts of the world and then they always has side effects I mean every drug um can have a side effect and so it's really not appropriate to talk about prevention in terms of of uh uh of drugs Pharmaceuticals there are a few exceptions but I think for the most part you're going to talk about prevention you got to talk about a different type of intervention and this brought me all the way back to my childhood uh and I always remembered the pride that people from the Mediterranean for example or people from Asia they had in how they thought about food as part as a Continuum of part of their health and food actually is a much more Equitable safer more joyful solution compared to drugs right and so you can use food as medicine um as opposed to medicine as medicine for prevention and that's what led me after many years of being involved with biotech development you know why don't we actually study Foods using the same rigorous science and systems that we do drug development and so I'm one of the early people that actually um studied food is medicine in that way and when we did that uh I'll tell you a quick story uh I had a collaboration at the National Cancer Institute uh this is back in the 90s where we were screening drugs or drug possible drugs for their activity against cancer and by then my nonprofit organization my charity called the Andre Genesis Foundation we' been so successful there were well over a dozen new treatments that had come out um from our from our work and so um I got to be a little bit more daring and so while we were screening Cancer drugs I pulled off the assembly line about a dozen of the test drugs um and I swapped them in with food extracts that I had ordered now we disguised the swap so that the researchers the technicians would have no idea what the samples were but when the results came out and again this was actually a very very serious test used to assess whether or not a chemical that was sent to us from different biotech companies would have potential to treat cancer and the results came out uh my jaw dropped because 50% half of the foods that we were screening that I snuck in there were as or more powerful than the drugs that we were testing wow so that was really an eyeopener for me to realize the power that science the real science could bring to the table and that's really what I do now I mean I I take that rigorous science based like uncompromising approach and that's one of the things that I you know am forced to do really or compelled to do as well hey there are you ready to use food to improve your health I Do cover a lot in my YouTube videos but there's only so much time to dive deep into how to use food as medicine that's why I created my eat to beat disease course in my course I walk you through how to use everyday foods that you can find in your grocery store to boost your body's Health defenses this is all based on my research and everything is rooted in science and I've made it super easy to follow with practical everyday tips whether you're trying to prevent disease or just want to optimize your health for longevity my eat to be disease course gives you all the tools to make it real and to help you get lasting changes that will help you live longer and live better to learn more click the link below or scan the QR code on the screen I can't wait to get started together in my course now back to the video actually the best way to live long is to dodge prevent thwart the conditions are going to rob you of your life they're going to cut you cut you down short okay and if you can dodge those what are those things cardiovascular disease metabolic syndrome diabetes cancer just to say a few things like if you got any one of those three things you're probably not going to make it as long as you would like to Chances Are because you've got all these other conditions which are we think largely preventable with diet and lifestyle genetics for cancer plays maybe 5% of the equation sure screen for cancer genes that would be good information for you to know but honestly if you didn't have the tools for screening just live a healthy lifestyle avoid things that are carcinogenic or toxic eat healthier whole plant-based Foods primarily eat diversity watch your gut microbiome you'll make it a lot of the ways and Dodge the cancers um that you can and so and if you do have one of these diseases cancer is I'm a cancer researcher if you look at the statistics uh one in two men are going to develop cancer in their lifetime one and three women are going to develop cancer in their lifetime so think about it you go into with those stats you go into an elevator with a bunch of people you know on your way to a holiday party or whatever wher you're going to go I mean you look around and you like my gosh this is this is like a terrible statistic right but actually a lot of cancers are preventable and uh you know and you can dodge colon cancer and breast cancer and a lot of other cancers you know if we only had um uh a better immune system if we only had better control over circulation so we're not feeding cancers with our with our blood with a new blood supply um if we were able to um have diets that actually uh killed off cancer stem cells if we had more antioxidant opportunities to neutralize those free radicals or that would cause oxidative stress to trigger mutations in our DNA we can fix our DNA as well if there's ways that we could actually lower inflammation which is the gasoline to cancer you know you might have a tiny incipient cancer you have inflammation on top of that okay now you're basically pouring gasoline onto the Embers of a fire it's going to Roar okay and then it's immunity our immune system I wrote about this in my first book ether beat disease we are hardwired for health we' got five Health defense systems if we could actually keep those Shields up and fortify them and tend to them like we would with the gate to our house with the locks on our window or a lock on your door you know we'd actually get a lot further away we'd probably Dodge a lot of cancers um and there are foods that can do it as well diet and lifestyle it's not just the food but food actually we now know there are certain foods that can actually you have a pretty profound effect and so this this is another example like metabolic syndrome like this um stealer of years okay this this um Robber Baron of longevity is cancer which seem seem to be so uh nefarious you know did you ever see the the latest Denzel Washington um movie called equalizer yeah equalizer 3 yeah so there's this Italian guy who basically said oh this organized crime you know locally is like cancer there's no cure you know what I I I that was a great line in the movie but in fact there is a cure to cancer and we know it now I mean I as a cancer researcher I'm seeing it in motion we're not quite there yet but if with immunotherapy I got to tell you I I am if you want to see an amazing story that's based on science go check out the Instagram account of a a person that goes by the handle the brainy blonde okay um she is blonde very smart all right it's like a tripon Tandra but she had brain cancer gly blastoma death sentence nobody survives more than one or two years with that things she's going on almost seven years cancer free and you know what she did she took a peptide vaccine that boosted her own immune system all right and that was able to get her through so in the future this is what we're going to be able to do to conquer the scourge that's still treatment much better to prevent it in the first place so you don't have to go through that pain and suffering yeah awesome when it comes to like the latest data around the subject I think what the thing that everybody is hearing about obviously is I mean even if you look at a chart just like the explosion in the number of cancer cases versus and so what is the what's the risk of an individual today developing cancer in their lifetime what's the lador on that you know so these cancer statistics that we're seeing the rise in cancer cases and also the uh earlier cancers younger people are getting more cancer uh this is sort of a evolution that's happening it's kind of a tsunami that you're we're starting to see on the horizon right so you remember you know the picture of that IND you know in Indonesia you know the beach and you can kind of see the wave come and forming in the distance like this is what we're actually seeing with cancer we don't really have a um a clear explanation yet of why there's a lot of ideas that are out there um the climate the environment the pesticides the microplastics the um additives in our food I mean um the sedentary lifestyle I mean it could be a perfect storm of all these different factors I don't think there's one guilty party but there's something clearly going on that is ay I mean you know I heard the other day of a uh of a teenager getting colon cancer which is like unheard of uh you know when I went to medical school you would never see uh anything like that but this is a kind of thing that's actually uh happening um but what are the statistics well you know if you look at the American Cancer Society basically you would say one in three women and one in two men are going to develop cancer in their lifetime that's the that's a very crude uh averaging of Lifetime cancer risk that means look there's you and me two men all right one of us one of us is going to get it add some women in the room one and three go into an elevator with 10 people all right like two or three people there are going to get cancer so these are the stunning statistics that make people really scared except there are clearly things that we can do to prevent cancer and a lot of people don't know this but that uh only uh 5 to 10% of cancers are due to genetics the rest is due to environment diet and lifestyle yeah I think that's the one big thing that that seems to be highlighted I mean if you were to look at the and and this is a lot of what Dr Cas mean talks about but if you if you look at a chart and see this tsunam that you're talking about with the cancer cases and then you would also chart you know the explosion in fast food restaurants in Ultra processed food in pollution in our environment like you're seeing these things go up I mean it's not exactly like you're studying a lab and like this is exactly what's causing it but there's like this correlation of things that you're seeing rise I think the thing that's most surprising to people probably is um specifically what you were saying with with young people like there's a 79% rise in cancer rates amongst young people defined under 49 years old and I think and then you just mentioned the cancer case with a with a teenager what would be happening like for that specifically I mean people thought it was like an old older person's disease like what what would specifically be happening that that there would be a rise in people that are younger now that were yeah I mean that you know putting the the you know pinpointing the the cause like single cause we haven't been able to figure it out yet but I'll I'll tell you on a personal level as a cancer research some of the things that I think about I think that's uh fair enough you know I I think that with the way that we have um put so many additives in our Ultra processed foods and how common that is and the way that our water supply has become contaminated with microplastics and nanoplastics which are clearly inflammatory and inflammation is sort of sets up the um uh the environment for cancers to explode in terms of its growth um I think that the uh you know it's hard to say that kids live leave a sedentary lifestyle but hey you know you're if you're a gamer you're sitting in your chair all day long you know that's that's kind of sedentary that doesn't that actually can contribute as well all these things kind of like degrade your immune system cause more inflammation sort of tip the balance in your body just in the wrong direction that would favor cancer but I do think there's probably more going on than that but those are clearly some of the factors I think the gut microbiome is another one because I I do research on the gut microbiome so for people who are not familiar with this the gut microbiome are the healthy bacteria that live inside our gut there's about 39 trillion of them all right and um and where do they live they live in the colon primarily which is sort of the last third of our gut um they live specifically in a little pouch called the seeum uh seeum is right where the appendixes and we used to think the appendix was useless H you know if somebody doing getting Like a Surgeon if they were in a child's belly or teenager's belly for whatever reason they saw the appendix they go wh snip let's take it out don't need that that's that's like a extra uh extra piece of skin well we're beginning to rethink that because maybe just maybe the appendix plays a role just like our tonsils play a role in our immune system and one of the things that we're beginning to think is perhaps the appendix has an Air Traffic Control Function with the gut microbiome so the gut microbiome lowers inflammation raises your immune system controls healing in your body and I do think that we're this is something we've only really begun to recognize seriously in the last let's say decade decade and a half um a lot of the factors that you mentioned the pollution the contaminants you know additives all of those things actually um almost all of them can negatively affect the healthy ecosystem of our gut microbiome that we need to lower inflammation that's really good yeah I think that you know and we'll get the in your first book The the way that you outlined all the five defense systems in the body I thought was just so interesting because a lot of people are not well versed in and what those defense systems are and then even the treatments that you were talking about when it came to cancer and the defense systems in the body I mean obviously the microbiome is one of them but then when comes to the immunotherapy and then also angiogenesis and and targeting it that way I think um I think is interesting and so yeah I mean when it comes to like the the on the on the front end when you're talking about the risks what is actually like causing this um is there anything else you would add about like modern life that you feel like um you know we're going to talk about food but like would be things to be aware of that maybe we could counteract uh in terms of being proactive yeah there is a lot that we could actually unpack there um you know some of the basic things I would say is that you hear a lot about superfoods in quotes uh and everybody's trying to sell their own favorite superfood or Super Supplement you know um I what I say is that there's no single food or supplement that's really super it's the human body that's really super like we have these incredible defenses in our body and I write about five of them in my book e to be disease they actually are what is responsible for our health uh our health isn't just the absence of disease our health is the product of our health defenses firing in all cylinders it's kind of like Health defense is kind of like home defense you know like um you got your uh lock on your door you got a fence at your gate you got a burglar alarm you got a fire alarm a smoke detector um you know a latch in your window all these things prevent the bad guys from coming in okay and in the body our health defenses prevent those bad guys the diseases from overtaking our body from home invading our body but you wind up actually leaving the window open unlock keeping the door unlocked turning off the alarm let that fire alarm expire the batteries don't work anymore or the smoke alarm and you know when something happens it could actually wind up having a real negative consequence so what I say is that the things that we need to do are eat foods that boost our body's Health defenses and I write I've lists and tables pages and pages of foods that can do this and at the same time you want to avoid foods and LIF style practices that degrade or destroy your health defenses as well Works Cuts both ways you can raise the shields you can lower the shields you don't want to be lowering your Shields so some of the things that are very um clear in my mind to be able to stay away from now my research is actually what you should add to your life to enhance your health um I try to spend less time kind of bashing uh Foods in fact I don't really like to bash Foods we're all human we all like to do the things we like to do if you spend more time eating good stuff you have less time eating less room to eat bad stuff uh but I will tell you some of the clearly bad players uh um many Ultra processed foods have a ton of AD additives in it um just take a look you know a lot and I think this is some a good a good practical take-home for anybody listening or watching this um if you're buying something that's in a box or a bag or a can or frozen in the frozen section you pick it up before you put it in your cart hold it up and look at the ingredient label and see what's in it I'm not talking about the macros like the protein and how much fat and all that like that's important but I want to look at the small print the stuff that they try to really make so small it's hard to read sometimes for me when I do that I actually have to take a photograph of my phone and then enlarge it with my fingers I just expand it so I can see what's in there I want to know how many additives are in there and recently you know the FDA the US FDA removed red dye number three from the food products they banned it well 30 years ago if you can imagine was when we all first realized that bread dye number three can cause cancer and yet it's been left in our food supply for 30 years three decades we're talking about like what are some of the PO possible causations for this rise in cancer risk um and by the way the other thing that's kind of nuts is that even though the announcement of the ban was made on you know one day um the government is giving permission for the food companies to have for two more years on the shelves and so they can figure out how to swap out red Dy now I can tell you you know it doesn't make any sense to me like you should be take it off the shelves immediately once you deem it's no good especially for something like cancer why wouldn't you just remove it immediately let the food companies figure out how they're going to fix that and then consumers don't you know can can feel more uh trust in the system and I think this is a whole other dimension of what is being discussed today is how do we learn to trust our food system where do we get our information from who are the voices that really know what they're talking about as opposed to you know delivering a message that may or may not be true may or may not be trustworthy so on top of all the other factual things that you know we've been talking about when it comes to cancer or health or environment or exposures I think we've got this other layer of complexity which is how do you find trusted resources to get information that is true no that's really good hey there I've got some something important to share with you and that is my guide to the three healthy foods that you might want to avoid if you're looking for longevity many products that are marketed as nutritious can actually undermine your health and if you want to find out more about these sneaky ingredients and how to make better choices then just click on the link below the video for all the details it's very important to know what's really in your food and this resource that I'm giving you gives you a head start get it right now for free in the description below or you can access the guy by scanning the QR code on the screen with your smartphone now let's jump back into the video you know the World Health Organization classified process meets as a class one carcinogen which is kind of significant because tobacco is also listed as like a class one carcinogen um you know can you explain so what falls under the category of processed meats and why are they harmful to their health okay yeah so let's first you know this is kind of a loaded topic so to speak because you know there are people that uh are follow a carnivore diet there's people they follow um a vegan diet and it's this is where food almost is like a religion my God is better than your God but in in point of fact you know humans evolved over our entire history to really be able to eat different types of foods and some of the more interesting longevity studies actually for people who are super agers you know who live to 105 110 you know they're omnom morph they're not they're not vegans okay they eat a little bit of everything they just don't eat too much um and so I I wanted to set that out you know before we dive into the meat thing because uh I think it's important to then isolate this idea like okay what is it about meat and processed Meats that could be uh potentially harmful well you know regular meat whether you're talking about beef pork chicken duck whatever and you know I suppose animal protein like fish uh or shellfish um it's a source of protein and you get lots of minerals and other micronutrients that are actually uh part of an important balanced diet now you can definitely uh NYX meat of any sort and get plenty of protein and get most of your micronutrients from plant-based sources as well so again I'm right down the middle of the aisle here which is you know like it's a it's a matter of personal choice um don't eat too much meat because red meat in particular has a lot of saturated fat and by the way how you prepare your meat also matters I'm going to get to process of me in a second I know you're waiting for that yeah but but let's talk about like just regular red meat all right if you you know if you make a stew versus put something on a grill that you haven't cleaned it's got all these carcinogens that are coming out of the smoke all right um uh if you deep fry your chicken fried steak you know you change something into you take something that may not be that great for you and then you turn into something that's really not that good for you okay you eat once in a while not a big deal you eat for a you have a lifetime habit of eating this way it's going to add up now what about process meets because look we all grew up you know going to the carnival state fair whatever it is ball games getting hot dogs and you know that that kind of thing the sausage and I can tell you that um these processed Meats um are not fresh kill like you would have uh with a T-bone steak right you're talking about meat that was taken off ground up mixed with other additives preservatives chemicals flavorings some of those flavorings are artificial as well um I I did not learn know this until I really looked into this red dye number three thing hot dogs are often colored with red dye number three you know like hot dogs don't come out of the the the beef out of the pig you know or the or the be or the or the cow looking red okay I mean that is this is food coloring so think just think about that now you put into a casing all right um and then think about that which is that a processed meat um you've changed it from its native source native form now let's take a look at some of the other types of meats like pepperoni okay now you're actually adding all kinds of spices now you're throwing them into like baths with preservatives in them all right that's why the pepperoni look in a store like the skin is wrinkled you ever go into a bathtub too long your skin gets wrinkled that's what happens these pepperoni sticks are sitting in these like baths for for a long time look clearly you have changed the original source of the food into something else that's what processed meat is um is it the nitrates is it the artificial additives the BT is it you know we don't really know again there's you know we're always searching for that one Smoking Gun but it's probably a multip a multiplier of these things and how the food is cooked and how the what the food is eaten with if you're someone that eats hot dogs all day long okay um you're probably not eating a lot of salad you're probably not eating a lot of vegetables so it could be not just something that you're eating but it could be ganging up with something you're not eating at the same time and this is why like I think it's really important to be fair and balanced and and take a kind of a balanced view when when you're looking at this but that said all the population studies we're talking about looking at millions of people have shown worldwide that eating a high amount of processed Meats sausages hot dogs all that kind of stuff sandwich meats you know like the lunch meats that we used to get when we were kids um you know that that our moms used to make for us or you get in the at the lunch lady that stuff is not good it's not good for you it's just not a good source of nutrition okay and it actually has additives and it's a class one carcinogen uh and it's just something that really we need to be aware of and do less of cut down or cut out is what I say yeah I mean it really was one of the s surprising things for me even when I watch your original video I mean because people were sitting here and being like hot dogs cause cancer or you know process Meats cause cancer um and I think when you you know really break it down the way you were just talking about with all the preservatives that are added to it and the way that the meat is cured and and and it's just such a modification from like I'm just taking a piece of pork and like eating it like a like a slab of like pork right from the right from the animal there's so much modification that's going on with it yeah now now think about it go to the deli right in the grocery store and uh the deli counter and they've got these um cylindrical tubes of meat like baloney all right salami and you're going to slice it up I guarantee you the the animal doesn't come like that right I mean think about it there's no there's no part of an animal that is a cylinder like that and yet that actually is how the factories have made it manipulated the food do you know why uh how those uh those uh kind of processed meats are held together have you ever heard of meat glue all right uh uh early part of the N of the 20th century like the mid- 1900s um the military wanted to figure out how to actually make um meat scraps hold together better so they figured out a chemical that could actually glue meat together all right and once they invented that it got picked up by the um uh processed food industry to say oh you know what we can take scraps of meat we can pulverize it into little tiny pieces and just pour meat glue in there and we can shape it any way we want that's how those cylinders come about oh my gosh I had no idea that's like a new thing I'm learning today that's that's crazy hey if you like that video then you're going to love this one check it out
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