A Conversation with a Rampage Killer | NOVA | Miles O'Brien
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Kind: captions Language: en so could the pressures and strain prove too much to bear for those few teenagers who go on to become Rampage Killers like Andy Williams is Andy in here yes and there he is making a goofy faces it was March 5th 2001 when the cute kid in Jeff Williams photo album ALB became the murder suspect on the 6:00 news about 9:30 this morning shots rang out at a Suburban San Diego High School Andy walked into a boy room at Santana high school in Santi California and open fire he killed two fellow students and injured 13 others my boyfriend got shot that's all I know suspect shot two people in the bathroom at first then opened the door to the bathroom and Sh started shooting randomly anybody who was passing by more than a decade after the shootings Jeff is still perplexed so he wasn't a kid that was infatuated with violence no not at all he yeah I mean you have the silly clown that's that's the thing you know you don't expect a silly clown to do something like this to go kill people the Class Clown the class clown to be the class killer when we heard the shots I thought it was fake my teacher said it was real the gun was a 22 caliber revolver taken from Jeff's locked gun cabinet ironically a gun that had brought Father and Son together I feel bad that he used um my gun um but the it was the gun one of the guns that I taught him how to shoot with the first two counts charged the defendant with murder the remaining counts are 13 counts of attempted murder premeditated attempted murder all with gun facing life without parole Andy pleaded guilty at his sentencing hearing a year and a half after the shootings he faced the families of his victims all I ask is that you look at the horrors Andy committed and not to be ient because of his age he was old enough to know what was right and what was wrong and he knew that what he was doing was terribly wrong do you love your son yes I love my son very much um ironically first time I told him I loved him that I can remember was when I saw him for the first time at juvenile hall on March 8th and you know I it's I love him now I loved him then and I'm going to support him he's my son I do not condone what he did I do not condone the way he went about trying to resolve his issues whatsoever he made a very bad choice I can't change that so what were and's issues after the shootings the truth began to emerge for Jeff the revelations were a complete surprise he knew that Andy was the new kid at school he and his son had recently moved to a San Diego suburb from Maryland leaving his ex-wife Andy's mom a continent away but what Jeff didn't know was Andy had sunk into a state of deep despair he didn't fit in at Santana high and even his so-called friends bullied him unmercifully beat him up like he did Trevor that one day he started drinking smoking pot and taking prescription painkillers we're getting buzzed on some he's hot yeah we're all high Santana students say the suspected Shooter had a reputation for being picked on and even though he had made threats no one thought that he would carry out such an act Andy is now 27 and has served 12 years of his 50-year to life sentence we spoke on a monitored line from inside the Ironwood prison in the middle of the Southern California desert BR call is from an inmate at a California collectional facility can you still hear me take us back to that moment in if you can tell us what was going on in your mind at the time that would really help us um to me it was just like a numbness at the time you know what I mean and like I couldn't really like at 15 I didn't really think like all that stuff through I didn't think two boys were gonna die I didn't think 13 people were gonna get shot I just thought I was gonna make a lot of noise and and that the and that the cops were G to show up did you feel suicidal absolutely it was a like an eight month content like like I wonder if things would be better if if I wasn't if I wasn't like in this in this city in this state like or even even on this Earth so my grand scheme like my grand plan was was suicide by cop Andy says he wanted to die if not by his own hand then suicide by cop getting gunned down by authorities at the last moment he changed his mind and turned himself into police on the scene as a turns out about 60% of Rampage Killers end up killing themselves some experts believe understanding and spotting the suicidal mind is a key piece of the puzzle
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