The "Tic Tac" UFO: Can This Sighting Be Explained? | NOVA | PBS
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I was an eyewitness to what is
considered one of the most important UFO
or UAP encounters and that's the uh USS
Nimitz Tic Tac
encounter November
14th
2004 about 100 miles Southwest of San
Diego Alex Dietrich then a young Aviator
in training along with her commanding
officer David fraver a seasoned pilot
with more than a decade of flying under
his
belt set out on a routine training
exercise it was clear blue skies calm
Waters when we get a call by this
controller kind of like an air traffic
controller for our military exercise and
they say hey we need to to go check out
this contact over here the radar on one
of the ships in the strike group had
detected an unknown object
and this is 2004 just a few years after
9/11 the hair on the back of our neck
stands up and we go hm okay and we
divert and we head towards
it and we don't see anything
initially but somebody sees a
disturbance in the water and this
strange thing is flying very fast but
erratically
over the this area of of water it was
off-white you know sort of a white
creamish color we didn't see a cockpit
we didn't see windows and it moved in
ways that we didn't understand Dietrich
and fraver returned to the nimts without
taking video of the
object so another aircraft went in
Pursuit and captured
this we call it affectionately a Tic Tac
because it looks like the little breath
mint Mick West decides to take on the
challenge to see if he can make sense of
the movement of the Tic Tac a very
blurry video I think it's actually out
of
focus and it's not actually doing
anything it's just basically flying away
and a bit to the left and more or less a
straightish line but the thing is David
fr's description is very
dramatic in fact when Commander David
fraver testified before Congress in 2023
he described an object that in his 18
years of flying traveled at speeds he'd
never seen before as we looked around we
saw a white Tic Tac object with a
longitudinal axis pointing North South
and moving very abruptly over the water
like a pingpong ball he talks about the
object kind of ping ponging around close
to the ocean and then doing this very
difficult synchronized movement up
towards the
top I'm going to tie it off over here
Mick conducts an experiment based solely
on the Pilot's eyewitness
reports using his backyard swimming pool
and his version of the Tic Tac yeah I
made the Tic Tac out of a piece of wood
and some bits of white wire and painted
it
white he suspends his Tic Tac over the
swimming pool about
there climbs up a ladder with his phone
and starts
recording so what I set up with the pool
demo is just a good illustration of what
might have happened to try to figure out
what's actually moving
here is this object moving or is the
camera moving because we don't have um
any frame of reference we've just got
the pool behind us I zoom in a little
bit so all you see is the pool it really
looks like the object is moving even
though it's
not it's only the camera that's
moving it's a good illustration of
Parallax which as we know is one of the
big causes of optical
illusions you may have experienced this
illusion looking out the window of a
train the trees just outside the window
appear to be moving in relation to the
landscape in the background but the only
thing that's actually moving moving is
you we're not reliable our eyes are not
reliable if you're going to court and
you're the accused and it's a eyewitness
testimony that's going to you know thei
evidence against you good
luck so when a military Aviator
especially someone like Commander fraver
with combat experience says that they
saw something in the sky that they can't
quite explain that operated in a way
that seemed to contradict what they
understand the laws of physics would
dictate I tend to give those witness
testimonies a great deal of credence
because these aviators are not just
highly trained pilots they're highly
trained combatants the pilot observation
is I see something the data we need is
what the sensor is gathering and that's
the numbers we actually
need in the case of the Tic Tac the
pilot did see something but some of the
key technical questions hadn't been
investigated at the time and trying to
investigate those now is not going to
give us a whole lot because there's
nothing to really examine the farther
back in time you go the less data there
is for every one of these cases and back
in
2004 there was no data retention policy
for these kinds of
events according to Shan Kirkpatrick the
radar data from the incident no longer
exists so we'll never know if it would
support or rule out mix Parallax Theory
I don't know what we saw and I refuse to
speculate because I think it would be
irresponsible of me to say you know well
it was definitely an adversary spying on
us or it was definitely an alien
visiting from outer space uh because I
don't
know for Alex that was the end of the
Tic Tac story and then I went on with my
life my career and I didn't really think
about
it that is until 13 years later when the
New York Times published this article
with links to the Tic Tac and gimbal
videos when the New York Times released
this story it really gave the whole
topic a bit of credibility where a lot
of people saw it as taboo and sort of
silly but if the US government has been
investing tens of millions of dollars in
to investigating these reports there
seems like there could be something to
it people are interested in this topic
of UFOs and Congress has begun to get
involved there's been a couple of
Congressional hearings calling expert
witnesses to try and figure out what's
going on here in your belief is this
this flying Tic Tac I mean is this is it
capable of being the product of any
other Nation on the earth no I actually
I think it defies current Material
Science and the ability to develop that
much propulsion and I know there's been
some physicists have done calculations
which is beyond anything that we have
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