The "Tic Tac" UFO: Can This Sighting Be Explained? | NOVA | PBS
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Kind: captions Language: en I was an eyewitness to what is considered one of the most important UFO or UAP encounters and that's the uh USS Nimitz Tic Tac encounter November 14th 2004 about 100 miles Southwest of San Diego Alex Dietrich then a young Aviator in training along with her commanding officer David fraver a seasoned pilot with more than a decade of flying under his belt set out on a routine training exercise it was clear blue skies calm Waters when we get a call by this controller kind of like an air traffic controller for our military exercise and they say hey we need to to go check out this contact over here the radar on one of the ships in the strike group had detected an unknown object and this is 2004 just a few years after 9/11 the hair on the back of our neck stands up and we go hm okay and we divert and we head towards it and we don't see anything initially but somebody sees a disturbance in the water and this strange thing is flying very fast but erratically over the this area of of water it was off-white you know sort of a white creamish color we didn't see a cockpit we didn't see windows and it moved in ways that we didn't understand Dietrich and fraver returned to the nimts without taking video of the object so another aircraft went in Pursuit and captured this we call it affectionately a Tic Tac because it looks like the little breath mint Mick West decides to take on the challenge to see if he can make sense of the movement of the Tic Tac a very blurry video I think it's actually out of focus and it's not actually doing anything it's just basically flying away and a bit to the left and more or less a straightish line but the thing is David fr's description is very dramatic in fact when Commander David fraver testified before Congress in 2023 he described an object that in his 18 years of flying traveled at speeds he'd never seen before as we looked around we saw a white Tic Tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing North South and moving very abruptly over the water like a pingpong ball he talks about the object kind of ping ponging around close to the ocean and then doing this very difficult synchronized movement up towards the top I'm going to tie it off over here Mick conducts an experiment based solely on the Pilot's eyewitness reports using his backyard swimming pool and his version of the Tic Tac yeah I made the Tic Tac out of a piece of wood and some bits of white wire and painted it white he suspends his Tic Tac over the swimming pool about there climbs up a ladder with his phone and starts recording so what I set up with the pool demo is just a good illustration of what might have happened to try to figure out what's actually moving here is this object moving or is the camera moving because we don't have um any frame of reference we've just got the pool behind us I zoom in a little bit so all you see is the pool it really looks like the object is moving even though it's not it's only the camera that's moving it's a good illustration of Parallax which as we know is one of the big causes of optical illusions you may have experienced this illusion looking out the window of a train the trees just outside the window appear to be moving in relation to the landscape in the background but the only thing that's actually moving moving is you we're not reliable our eyes are not reliable if you're going to court and you're the accused and it's a eyewitness testimony that's going to you know thei evidence against you good luck so when a military Aviator especially someone like Commander fraver with combat experience says that they saw something in the sky that they can't quite explain that operated in a way that seemed to contradict what they understand the laws of physics would dictate I tend to give those witness testimonies a great deal of credence because these aviators are not just highly trained pilots they're highly trained combatants the pilot observation is I see something the data we need is what the sensor is gathering and that's the numbers we actually need in the case of the Tic Tac the pilot did see something but some of the key technical questions hadn't been investigated at the time and trying to investigate those now is not going to give us a whole lot because there's nothing to really examine the farther back in time you go the less data there is for every one of these cases and back in 2004 there was no data retention policy for these kinds of events according to Shan Kirkpatrick the radar data from the incident no longer exists so we'll never know if it would support or rule out mix Parallax Theory I don't know what we saw and I refuse to speculate because I think it would be irresponsible of me to say you know well it was definitely an adversary spying on us or it was definitely an alien visiting from outer space uh because I don't know for Alex that was the end of the Tic Tac story and then I went on with my life my career and I didn't really think about it that is until 13 years later when the New York Times published this article with links to the Tic Tac and gimbal videos when the New York Times released this story it really gave the whole topic a bit of credibility where a lot of people saw it as taboo and sort of silly but if the US government has been investing tens of millions of dollars in to investigating these reports there seems like there could be something to it people are interested in this topic of UFOs and Congress has begun to get involved there's been a couple of Congressional hearings calling expert witnesses to try and figure out what's going on here in your belief is this this flying Tic Tac I mean is this is it capable of being the product of any other Nation on the earth no I actually I think it defies current Material Science and the ability to develop that much propulsion and I know there's been some physicists have done calculations which is beyond anything that we have [Music]
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