Many People are Einstein but in the Patent Clerk Days - François Chollet | AI Podcast Clips
8N_ljeGoLKA • 2019-09-24
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Kind: captions Language: en [Music] so yes winters explosion I'm sure if Mei was the idea but it's the idea that if you were to build general AI problem-solving algorithms well the problem of building such in the eye that itself is a problem that could be solved by your AI and maybe it could be so better than that and what humans can do so you're a I could start tweaking its own algorithm good that start being a better version of itself and so on iteratively in an in a recursive fashion and so you would end up with an AI with exponentially increasing intelligence okay and I was basically questioning this idea first of all because the notion of intelligence explosion uses an implicit definition of intelligence that doesn't sound quite right to me it considers intelligence as property of a grain that you can consider in isolation like the height of the building for instance right but that's not really what intelligence is intelligence emerges from the interaction between a brain a body like embodied intelligence and an environment and if you're missing one of these pieces then you can actually define interagency so just tweaking a brain to make it smaller and smaller doesn't actually make any sense to me so first of all you're crushing the dreams of many people right so there's a little bit like say Maris I feel a lot of physicists max tegmark people who think you know the universe is an information processing system our brain is kind of an information processing system so what's the theoretical limit like what it doesn't make sense that there should be some it seems naive to think that our own brain is somehow the limit of the capabilities and this information is just I'm playing devil's advocate here this information processing system and then if you just scale it if you're able to build something that's on par with the brain you just the process that builds it just continues and it will improve exponentially so that that's the logic that's used actually by almost everybody that is worried about superhuman intelligence yeah so you're you're trying to make so most people who are skeptical that are kind of like this doesn't the thought process this doesn't feel right like that's for me as well so I'm more like it doesn't we the whole thing is shrouded in mystery where you you can't really say anything concrete but you could say this doesn't feel right this doesn't feel like that's how the brain works and you're trying to with your blog post and now making a little more explicit so one idea is that the brain isn't exists alone it exists within the environment so you can't exponentially you have to somehow exponentially improve the environment and the brain together almost yeah in order to create something that's much smarter in some kind of of course we don't have a definition of intelligence that's all right that's correct III don't think if you look at very smart people today even humans not even talking about a eyes I don't think their brain and the toughness of their brain is the bottleneck to the actually expressed intelligence to their achievements you cannot just tweak one part of this system back of this brain body environment system and expect capabilities like what emerges out of this system to just you know explode exponentially because anytime you improve one part of a system with many interdependencies like this there's a new bottleneck that arises right and I don't think even today for very smart people their brain is not the bottleneck to the sort of problems they can solve right in fact many various what people to them you know they are not actually solving any big scientific problems you're not n Stein they're like Einstein but you know the the patent clerk days like Iceland became Einstein because this was a meeting of a genius with a big problem at the right time right but maybe this meeting could have noon and ever happens and then I assume there's just been a patent clerk it's and in fact many people today are probably like genius level smart but you wouldn't know because they're not really expressing any of that was brilliant so we can think of the world earth but also the universe is just as the space of problems so all these problems and tasks are roaming it a various difficulty and there's agents creatures like ourselves and animals and so on that are also roaming it and then you you get coupled with a problem and then you solve it but without that coupling you can't demonstrate your quote-unquote intelligence exactly intelligence is the meeting of great problem-solving capabilities with a great problem and if you don't have the problem you don't react spread intelligence all you're left with is potential intelligence like the customers of your brain you know how high your IQ is which in itself is just the number you
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