Kind: captions Language: en let's start with an easy question about consciousness in your view is consciousness something that's unique to humans there's is something that permeates all matter almost like a fundamental force of physics I don't think consciousness permeates all matter pants I just believe that yeah there's a philosophical how would you do that's true that's a good point I believe in scientific method blow your mind or anything but the scientific method it's like you cannot test the hypothesis then you cannot reach meaningful conclusion that it is true do you think consciousness understanding consciousness is within the reach of science of the scientific method we can dramatically improve our understanding of consciousness you know hard pressed to say that we understand anything with complete accuracy but can we dramatically improve our understanding of consciousness I believe the answer is yes this Nai system in your view I have to have consciousness in order to achieve human-level or superhuman level intelligence does it need to have some of these human qualities that consciousness may be a body may be a fear of mortality capacity love those kinds of silly human things it's different you know there's this the scientific method which I very much believe in where something is true to the degree that it is testily so and and otherwise you're really just talking about you know preferences or well untestable beliefs or like you know that kind of thing so ends up being somewhat of a semantic question where we were conflating a lot of things with the word intelligence if we parse them out and say you know all we headed towards the future where an AI will be able to out think us in every way then the answer is unequivocally yes in order for an AI system that needs to all think us in every way it also needs to have a capacity to have consciousness self-awareness and Anjali will be self-aware yes that's different from consciousness I mean it's me in terms words that what consciousness feels like it feels like consciousness is in a different dimension but this is this could be just an illusion you know if you damnit damage your brain in some way physically you get you you damage your consciousness which it implies that consciousness is a physical phenomenon and in my view the thing is that that I think are really quite quite likely is that digital intelligence will be able to out think us in every way and it will soon be able to simulate what we consider consciousness so to a degree that you would not be able to tell the difference and from the from the aspect of the scientific method it's it might as well be consciousness if we can simulate it perfectly if you can't tell the difference when this is sort of the Turing test but think of a more sort of advanced version of the Turing test if you if you're if you're talking to a digital super intelligence and can't tell if that is a computer or a human like let's say you're just having conversation of a phone or a video conference or something where you're you you think you're talking look looks like a person makes all of the right inflections and movements and and all the small subtleties that constitute a human and talks like human makes mistakes like you're hearing like look at that and you literally just can't tell is this are you really conversing with a person or or an AI might as well might as well be human you