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hey everybody welcome to another episode
of impact Theory you were here my
friends because you believe that human
potential is nearly Limitless but you
know that having potential is not the
same as actually doing something with it
so our goal with this show and Company
is to introduce you to the people and
ideas that are going to help you
actually execute on your
dreams all right today's guest is an
award-winning photographer entrepreneur
educator app developer keynote speaker
which he's done by the way on five
continents director and author his
multifaceted talents and Creations have
not only garnered him a social following
measured in the millions but have led
him to create some of the most
groundbreaking campaigns for some of the
biggest companies on the planet
including Apple Nike and many many
others his Unique Style and insane
amount of hustle have made him one of
the top 30 most influential
photographers of the past decade
according to photo District news and his
ability to bring really fresh eyes and
Creative Solutions to Old problems has
won him countless Awards and helped him
fundamentally alter the landscape of
Photography and Creative Education he
has helped Pioneer many of the things
that we take for granted today by the
way including photo sharing apps he
created one a year and a half before
Instagram behind the scenes documenting
and virtual stepbystep mentorship he was
a champion for transparency long before
it was trendy to do so and realizing
that really a core part of his calling
was to help other people he founded
creative live a revolutionary online
education resource with over 1,000
teachers including people like Sir
Richard Branson Mark cubin and Tim
Ferris they have roughly 1,500 classes
and over 10 million students who have
consumed over 2 billion that's with a B
billion empowering minutes of content so
please dearest friends help me welcoming
the man who quit pursuing a career in
professional soccer dropped out of
medical school and abandoned getting his
PhD in philosophy so we could help
change the world the incomparable Chase
Jarvis incomparable I'm going to
remember that one thank you so much for
I recorded all that [ __ ] I'm going to
play that anytime I feel bad about
myself as you should you should give it
to Kate like on a loop and just let her
know you know she would ey roll right
now she's going to watch this she's like
oh my God if I don't get enough of that
no thank you so much for having me on
the show
great spot big front door yes I love it
no it's great it's great to be in your
home thank you thank you man it's great
to have you super excited about this one
as we were talking about before the
camera started rolling for me the big
thing is I know I'm going to have to do
a lot of research on somebody uh and so
it needs to be somebody that the more I
go into it the more I'm empowering
myself the more I'm learning about
something um that I want to be able to
put to use and do just a treasure Trove
7 what was crazy as before this I
actually I knew you really well as an
influencer so I'd seen a lot of your
interviews uh you both sides of the
camera I actually didn't know your
creative work very well so that was fun
for me to really go deep on the things
you've actually created and just it's
amazing it's not a surprise that you've
had the kind of success you've had thank
you again just keep layering it on
drinking in no it's very it's um I pinch
myself every day I wake up uh woke up
this morning here to say an extra day to
do the show got a little surf in the
fact that we're you know coming here to
hang out with you and your crew share
the information that we've cultivated
and learned from our wins and losses
over the last you know several years and
then um on to San Francisco to basically
do more of that go back to creative live
uh this evening it's yeah it's a I I
pinch myself every day I feel lucky to
be alive I feel thankful to have been
able to tap into my passions I mean
imagine if more people would have both
the you know to be put in a position
where you could and then to be able to
tap into the things that you love and
put those together into making a living
or a life be a better place the world
would would it be yeah for sure it's
interesting that you say you know you
feel lucky to be alive one of the things
I didn't know is that you were caught in
or almost caught in an avalanche so walk
me through that like what near-death
experience obviously has to be a pretty
mind-altering thing what what was it
like what did you take away from it um
yeah it's I haven't been very public
about that I'm I'm trying to figure out
how to tell that story in a way that is
isn't that doesn't disrespect the fact
that I really shouldn't be sitting here
I'm I'm like a one half of a 1% the
short story long the the uh I was caught
in an avalanche in Alaska working on a a
campaign for we just so we don't put
anybody at risk just one of the world's
top 50 Brands wow and
um was with I was very knowledgeable I'd
spent a whole lifetime in the back
country um shooting the world's top you
know Ski and Snowboard athletes and just
Mother Nature she has a way of reminding
us that she's boss and a hundred Small
Things stacked up there was no one big
indicator uh and you know everybody was
with our crew we had decades and Decades
of experience in the back country with
Avalanche
safety and I just my number got pulled
it's a numbers game ultimately when you
spend you that was where most of my
early creative work was in the Action
Sports World ski surf Snow Skate World
and when 100% of your time is in the 2
or 3% of the time that's most dangerous
on unied slopes you know in the way way
out back country that never been you
know touched just after a storm it
starts to become a numbers game and my
number got pulled and I had just
photographed a a woman who had made a
bunch of turns um and we were starting
to pay attention there was just you know
Mother Nature gives you a little bit of
sign about what the the changing snow
conditions um and then I was just skiing
down to get into position for the next
shot and you know the whole Mountain let
go and it was uh about 1,800 vertical
feet about two or 300 feet across and
about 10 ft deep so just to give you a a
picture that's enough to fill up I don't
know five or 10 football fields with 10
to 20 to 50 feet of snow so it is and I
I without going into the details um I
managed to escape with my life I thought
I was sort of living the dream then you
know traveling how many years ago was
this this was a long time ago this is
maybe 10 years ago um but I was what I
thought living the dream traveling the
world you know shooting for the top
brands and and after that I you know
it's it's something that shakes you to
your core I got up and went to work the
next day wow um which was you know
something I had to deal with um but it
definitely made me feel like who I was
really in service of was
myself and I was living a fairy tale
life traveling all the worlds it's it's
as good as you think it is when you read
about it in the papers there's a there's
plenty of grind that's not talked about
but it certainly made me look beyond
what I was currently doing it's like
wait a minute this is not actually
impact um this is you know it's fun but
I'm taking pictures and I'm not really
shaping public opinion or you know
changing the world and uh so it helped
me look more carefully at the work that
I was doing how I was spending my time
with whom I was spending my time and
reassess and that certainly was a
massive pivot or catapult onto sort of
the next phase of my career which was
how do you integrate what you love with
having
impact so you're a philosophy student at
least at one point and you said part of
what Drew you to philosophy was that it
gave you critical thinking skills so
walk me through or walk us all through
like what what does that introspection
look like because you've had I mean from
the outside it looks like two sort of
major moments where you're really
reflecting that and then when you decide
that you're going to sort of leave
everybody else's dreams to the side and
you're going to do your own thing
whatever that's going to be y um I think
it'd be super helpful to understand like
what that critical process or was it
total gut and you were just looking for
Instinct uh I think um I got into
philosophy based on um trying to have an
out for the career that everybody else
wanted for me which was oh you're smart
and hardworking uh I went to college on
a soccer scholarship first of all and I
think that's when you do that um you
know that your whole world is focused on
that thing because it's you know a small
fraction of folks who actually get to do
that um then have an opportunity to go
on and play professionally and I had
that path available to me and I started
sort of second guessing that path and
philosophy was this thing that I was
interested in mostly out of curiosity I
had some experience um with
visualization and meditation early on
specifically around Sports and sports
psychology how to be an elite performer
as an athlete and that was introduced to
you by the teams you were working yeah
yeah I was on the um the Olympic
development team um which is just
basically the the team that they're
getting ready to go for the Olympics
every every four years but they keep it
going in between the Olympic
Cycles uh and when you have to go to
school and you have to pick a major you
know I I didn't know what I wanted to do
I was pretty focused on soccer and so
what's the fallback and I remember just
asking friends and peers and the answers
were like oh if you're smart and
hardworking you should be a doctor or a
lawyer or I was like oh okay and so I
just literally started taking classes in
Premed and and started you know
volunteering at hospitals and just
setting up that path realizing only way
in it's like wait a minute this I'm the
only like I'm very different than
everyone else who's in
this on this sort of path didn't feel
good so philosop they had like a drive
for yeah a drive a passion and not that
I didn't like caring for people I mean I
worked in children's hospital with super
sick kids as my sort of rotation and
getting experience it was just so
depressing so I mean the people that do
that work it's it's unbelievable the
level of character and passion and focus
that you have to have to stay on that in
a in a world where you're you all that
stff imag tearing you apart um but
philosophy to get back to your original
question was it was an escape from that
world I was like wait a minute you mean
I can get college credits for reading
nche and heiger and about you know
thinking about creativity and it was
actually the philosophy of uh of art
that got me most interested in art I had
always been creative as a kid but
fundamentally sort of stuffed that down
because when where I grew up um you know
suburbs outside of Seattle being
creative you know oh he's the creative
kid that wasn't a good thing that was
like wait a minute oh they're saying I'm
creative and that means I'm weird like I
I didn't I didn't want to be weird I
wanted to fit in like most you know
young young kids and so I was like what
what is what fits in like oh the captain
of the football team like great I'll do
that and so it was really I was chasing
that dream which was someone else's
dream I happen to be a decent athlete
and it ended up you know gu me to
college but there I had always repressed
this sort of creative side when I
started taking philosophy classes
specifically the philosophy of
Photography the philosophy of Aesthetics
and this was just part of the normal
course of study I was like oh yeah that
that part that's part of me and started
leaning more and more into that and is
it just like a sense of being more alive
when you're doing it that you say it's a
part of you yeah I think it's um it's
the part that you said at the end of
your question around is it really just
intuition and what I was doing was sort
of justifying my intuition hey I'm still
going to get a PhD Mom I'm I I bailed on
medical school after doing all the mcats
and all that stuff the interviews going
to go to the University of Washington
Medical School freaked out bailed on
that it's like okay I'm I'm still going
to be it's G to be okay I'm I'm going to
be a doctor but just a PhD how's that is
that does that meet up with everybody's
expectations of what a hardworking um
son should be and ultimately the
philosophy part of that extension or the
[ __ ] that I was feeding myself was
critical thinking it's like wow these
people like I might not feel like the
graduate student who's over there with
the Beret and the cigarette smoking and
talking about n but I was I I was
learning and I was reading and being
informed by you know everybody from
Plato to senica to nche to you know just
these big old philosopher names and I
realized only now that that was a
foundation
for a critical thinking but also it
opened me up to you know when you apply
critical thinking to yourself like wait
a minute what am I doing I'm actually
living everybody else's dream for me
rather than writing my own script so
that element of
self-reflection that I gained from
studying philosophy helped me like shake
up the whole scene like wait a minute
what this is not what this is not who I
am this is not what I'm supposed to be
and you know you go back to um you know
childhood like what is what were the
things that you know you were excited
about as a young kid and that was making
things I was an only child you know I
didn't have a lot of toys I was like
block of wood go entertain yourself so I
had wild imagination that I had sort of
been repressing for my whole life and as
soon as I talked about intuition
ultimately I think this is intuition at
work fighting against a lot of cultural
forces and this you know I talk a lot
about this today like I bet if I
surveyed everyone here in the room
that a good bit of them had been shown a
path shown the door this is actually
this is what you should do and I'm
trying to get with creative live and
with being on your show here trying to
get people to think like wait a minute
am I doing the thing that I want to do
or is it cultural pressure pressure from
my parents pressure from the mortgage
and the family to do some other thing
right and I just lo and behold there's a
lot of people who for whom that has that
has been a bigger shaper of what they're
on their path to do as opposed to the
thing that they actually want to do
which is governed by intuition so in a
long roundabout way through a bunch of
um experience I learned the hard way and
but ultimately found my path one of the
things you've said uh this is going to
be close to a direct quote the most um
important thing that you could cultivate
is the ability to listen to your
intuition yes so how do you cultivate
that uh self-awareness is huge like that
that monologue that I just went on about
all of the steps that I took to be able
to
self-reflect um and does it start from
like a feeling it's certainly there's
always a feeling and that's the thing
that we are told we are taught to ignore
feelings I think we've done a terrible
job culturally not just in the US but in
the west we've done a very bad job of
cultivating one's um desire expectation
ability to listen to our in inition and
it was you know we all have different
paths some through sort of griefs some
through achievement some through
struggle to start to listen to we all
have that Compass what is it about grief
that one really stuck out to me so um is
it like a big event that just sort of
slaps you out of your normal way of
thinking I've I you know as some this
really sh gets me up in the morning so
I've talked to thousands of people I end
up being you know when you do find your
path and you're lucky enough to grab
onto that string that gives you a hell
of a ride uh which is what I feel like
I've been on you end up being a career
counselor and that's what I and I love
it I end up you know talking to people
and I mentioned grief just off the cuff
because I have had so many people you
know toe-to-toe after I get off stage at
an event or something saying you're i' I
knew who you were but your message
really resonated with me when you know
my mom died when I lost my husband when
I broke up with my girlfriend when you
know I lost my house so these this
process of grieving and realizing that
you know either recognition of our own
mortality or just some event you're like
wait a minute this this is not all this
stuff that I'm being programmed and told
like that's not what this is about are
you familiar with Jamie I know you know
stepen Cotler familiar with Jamie Wheels
Stephen Cotler and their new book St
fire yeah I'm I was exchanging emails
with Stephen in the car on the way up
here really that's crazy y have you read
it yet I haven't oh dude you're going to
love it so the reason I'm going so deep
in this question is is like you so many
people come to me and they have a sense
that they could do more they could be
more but they don't quite know what that
is they don't even know how to like put
words around this feeling that they have
in they don't know how to start like
what what's the first step exactly and
one of the the parts of stealing fire is
you have to learn to tap into
non-ordinary States Of Consciousness
which is why when you said grief I
thought wow that's like because they
they don't touch on stuff like that but
I think that that is literally what's
happening is it's it's you need someone
to slap you out of the dayto day because
it's so easy to blame um anything we can
blame the political environment we can
name uh we can blame our health we can
blame so many things on oh it's just
easy to stay on this path and whatever
the thing is that's why I mention grief
whatever the thing is that gets you out
of that state of sort of um numbness you
know for me it was an avalanche um for
me it was a 10year recognition and to to
be clear just for a second small
departure like I grew up midddle lower
lower middle middle class white suburban
and it was hard for me to resist all of
the things that culture was telling me I
had to be imagine people who you know
who have less opportunity who are people
of color who are uh females like I'm a
huge I'm I'm on this Mission down here
in La I've been focusing on interviewing
some of the strongest females I know
trying to get the new the feminine is
the new energy that I think our culture
needs but imagine if you had all those
other disadvantages how much harder it
would be than it was for me and it took
me well half a lifetime and to me that's
catastrophic failure of our culture
that's sad so the flip side of that the
flip side of that then is if we can
increase our selfawareness if we can
program people through non-traditional
channels and ultimately I would like to
see the school system change I don't
have a lot of optimism for that just
based on the very Tren which is one of
the reasons we created a creative live
but if we can create a longstanding
something that has durability a vein in
culture which helps people understand
that you have to write your own script
and if you don't someone else will
surely write it for you right and if we
can sort of change that mindset that's
one of the things that I'm chasing um we
get little glimpse of glimpses of it
dayto day we get you know big dose of it
at creative live that's you know that's
the thing that I'm focused on so the
fact that we all
Collective Consciousness you
Stephen uh Gary Tim um Ariana B Brown
there's a there's a real what I feel
like is finally sort of a movement
towards some of these uh you know these
new ideals to me that's exciting so you
gave me the chills a few minutes ago
talking about culture talking about uh
the need for feminine energy which is
something that we're working on but the
whole like thing at impact theory is
that so if growing up in a middle class
environment white with privilege and all
of that you still have a hard time how
do we adjust culture enough to make sure
that anybody no matter where you grow up
uh impoverished um undereducated like
whatever the the thing is that you've
got going against you how do we really
impact that culture and it's you know it
does to me also feel like a movement
there's a lot of people creating a lot
of energy creating social content
certainly but where it gets really
interesting to me is like what you're
doing with creative live where it's it's
foundational and I don't think that we
have to change the education system from
within for sure you doing what you're
doing with creative live becomes like a
whole another thing we're trying to
create not only social content but
traditional narrative content because
don't try to change Behavior that's my
thing leverage Behavior right so I
already know people are going to be
watching movies reading books you know
watching Netflix all that stuff so now I
want to sort of incept them with
ideology by understanding how mythology
Works how can humans consume it and pass
on that ideology storytelling it's a F
it's like it's been like campfire
caveman time you've said that the world
thinks in narrative I do what do you
mean by that uh that's how we remember
stories that's how ideas are passed
along that are sticky just I think it's
as we're hardwired for uh for language
if you you know read any n Chomsky we're
also hardwar for narrative narrative is
a product of language and if and you see
that in pop culture great storytellers
there it's like the pi Piper um I forget
who wrote the book tell to win with it
Peter grber great book around around
creating narratives to attach um ideas
ideologies um and inspiration to and I
think ultimately that's one of the
reasons that I certainly not the
original reason I went into it but now
looking backwards that I was focused on
telling stories as a Creator as a
photographer and a director was you know
that's the use case that I can now carry
into this part of my life telling people
stories not just about avalanches but
about other people tapping into their
most you know their most internal
authentic selves in order to direct
their living life career whatever path
that's what makes that sticky is
narrative so it's interesting going back
to narrative and and narrative's ability
to um jux toosee ideas that may
otherwise seem totally unrelated I find
it interesting that you credit a lot of
your success being a type A Hard driver
like busting ass but that you've also
found meditation and which it and ALS
use um my own experience I see
meditation as being very soft like a
nice contrast so I meditate right after
I work out because I like that
juxtaposition of the intensity and then
how rapidly can I sort of decelerate
everything um how has that friction
helped you between being type A Hard
driver cuz I know at one point you were
like concerned that meditation was
actually going to soften you in some way
we have uh I think Tim Ferris and I who
Tim is a lovely him we've been friends
for a long time um first of all a it was
I I remember a couple of conversations
about isn't this Edge this like at the
at your core you got a fire in your
belly you're driven you mentioned sort
of type A Hard charging whatever words
that you would associate with that you
start to believe your own story that
that is what has created your
success and we don't stop or pause we're
unwilling to part with that even long
enough to see if that narrative that
self-narrative is true because if we
stop that hard charging type A aggro you
know undercurrent will we lose a step
will we lose two steps will we fall from
the position that we've worked so hard
to get ourselves into I remember um
specifically exactly what I was said and
talking to Tim and he was feeding me
this line I was like all those things
you said I thought the EXA and I can
only say what my truth is I can't say
what your truth is Tim but just give it
a shot how about what if you were able
to think about that thing that you
thought was propelling you is actually
an anchor that is the thing that is
keeping you down or small or um or at
some percentage of your potential rather
than other way around try and tell
yourself that narrative just long enough
for you to take take a break from your
aggro hard charging type a life and you
know there's any one of these types of
meditation I happen to steer Tim and and
I I found Transcendental Meditation TM
tm.org um as one that was sticky for me
Tim you know ended up gravitating to
that same thing and when you are able to
make that switch you realize as I did I
think as Tim did that and when you say
switch you mean switch in the narrative
yeah switch the narrative and change
your daily habits such that meditation
is a part of your
day-to-day for me it I was quickly easy
to see that oh my God this is actually
it's like a rocket it's like a booster
because now everything around me is
happening in slow motion I don't get
fired up and it was a fundamental change
in the way that I sort of interacted
with the world and I don't it's like I
don't want to preach meditation because
it's not for everybody it there is just
have you read tools for Titans Tim's
book oh of course the number one
correlated thing across all those people
some sort of mindfulness practice now
you ready yeah I'm going to be the
[ __ ] that says this for everybody
there you go because I'm just taking it
from a neurological perspective like
purely from a neurological perspective
because I know what's happening right
you're tapping into the parasympathetic
nervous system you're calming down the
sympathetic like it's just it's uh
biochemistry right so if if you believe
in Biochemistry then give it a shot I'm
I'm a huge advocate I try not to sell it
too hard because anytime someone's
trying to sell you something it feels
you know feels inauthentic but it's just
giv me a lot of Joy yeah no I I think
that it's um like you uh actually you
embraced it pretty quickly like Tim I
did not yeah and I really felt that it
was super soft and I never thought of it
as like taking a step off my Edge it
just felt like probably because my self
narrative like growing up I was uh I was
not good at sports I did not feel overly
tough and so toughening up was like
lesson number one for me as an
entrepreneur to not be the guy reacting
like hey this guy is falling I just
really had to steal myself and work on
mental toughness and so that was like I
put so much energy into that for such a
long time that by the time people were
telling me hey you should meditate I was
like what yeah like and then how long
how long into it before you felt a
change in your own the the first day
yeah it was it was so immediate and so
massive because I was coming to it from
the place of a Navy SEAL told me stop
being a dumbass understand what
meditation is doing to your brain and
just try it then it was like okay I
understand what's going on from from I'm
trying to you know the you have gas and
break right so the gas is your
sympathetic nervous system and your
break is rest and digest it's the
parasympathetic nervous system and so
once he could explain it to me like that
then it was like okay it's not woow woo
anymore it doesn't make me feel like I'm
sort of reverting back to my um less
than tough days and so when I sat down
to do it and I could imagine what I was
trying to do to my brain and the
breathing and understanding diaphragm
breathing and all that like the if you
are used to breathing shallow and you
just do one breath from your diaphragm
you'll feel it right away yeah it's like
it's a little buzz yeah and so as
somebody who just sort of naturally runs
at a high stress level which I I'll call
background radiation like if I don't
meditate my background radiation levels
just creep up creep up that's a good
it's a good name for it yeah and so I
just uh it was it was really really um I
it was a lifesaver in the sense that I
think if I had continued to not meditate
I would have ended up overwhelmed or
depressed so I didn't but once I started
doing it and could reflect back I was
like whoa it felt like a dodging a
bullet talk to me about visualization
how specifically do you do it how
concrete are the images in your mind
what's like the end goal I read
headlines actual words in an article I
write an article in bra I write a an
article or a press release or a like I'm
literally reading the outcome as if it
has already happened and being reported
to chase Jarvis wins award for
revolutionary new photo technique sure
yeah I I mean I I try and be less me
Centric my go my goals are a little bit
um in group involve like movements or
groups of people or or creative live um
but for the I have personal goals for
sure um but anything that's more public
facing I have a press release written in
my head and I read it in my mind's eye
every day every morning the same one or
you're constantly um I'm I'm I have a a
narrative that I go to and so it's not
literally the same exact words but it's
same in principle and never heard that
before it's super powerful um with uh
Sports it was very much about trying to
involve um there's a a component of
relaxation prior to it so I do it just
after meditating okay um you're more
receptive I've learned through research
and my own personal experience that
you're more your body your mind are more
receptive to receptive to the
suggestions uh
and um I in the sports worlds I would
like you could smell the grass i' see
the ball going in the net would you say
I smell the grass or would you actually
I would I I have in in some cases I talk
to myself I will like literally say the
words out loud to give it an extra
Dimension the the audio Dimension wow um
but incorporating sights and smells what
did it smell like like the the the paper
of the contract being signed or like
what did the ink smell like what did the
grass smell like on game day when the
you know what was the experiences in
your body as you saw the ball hit the
net or like again
whatever I'm I'm telling myself a
complex narrative that I've 100% made up
about the moment after you realized the
dream has come true I've never heard
anybody use words before and that's so
liberating for me because I'm actually
really bad at seeing something in
concrete detail and especially coming
from you I would figure as a
photographer for like you can just sort
of close your eyes and imagine like sure
I'm and I'm painfully Visual and that's
part of the reason that I have sought
these other senses auditory um words um
even smell to again I've mentioned a
couple times already like smelling the
grass what it felt like to be in the
moment on the soccer field when you
scored the winning goal or whatever the
thing is I just tried to incorporate
more senses wow that's really incredible
using words that I'm going to try that
language is language is powerful yeah
like Words matter and uh choose them you
know obviously they can especially in
our culture now there's a sort of in a
posttruth world um that's terrifying
yeah you know there there's this a goal
to sort of erode the word but the thing
that my reason for knowing that words
are powerful is the effect that they
have on our bodies I think Tony Robbins
talks about I might get this wrong but
you have to have the right State before
you can tell yourself the right story
before you can get the right strategy in
place and anytime you try and go right
to one of the other things like if you
try and go right to the right strategy
but you're in a shitty head space like
you're not going to get the strategy
right so you know he calls his daily
routine priming um whatever the the the
activities that you know we all do every
day or morning or in this case
visualization if I I realize that those
things are true for me too if I first
and foremost can control my state my
emotional state I can be in a positive
head space and know that the world's out
there you know looking out for me and
that I am in part in control of my
destiny that helps me um create a great
narrative whether this is a narrative of
self-empowerment or supporting others or
just creating the world that I'm hoping
to create and then the strategy is like
oh I have to wake up and I have to go do
this thing or help this person or be
receptive to these ideas such that I can
you know tap into my dreams W so again I
look at that whole world is really
valuable I think it's massively
underappreciated uh and and again I'm
sort of a just I feel like an everyday
guy just everyday Joe and I have put
these techniques to work for me I Don't
Preach them but I can't think of what my
life would be like you know you talked
about how what your stress level would
be what your health would be without
some of the practices that you've um you
know you've made use of I I'm in the
same boat like I can't even
imagine uh I wouldn't be on the show if
it wasn't for some of these these
techniques and tools yeah I love that
you said that habits are like really
important in your life and I feel
exactly the same and when one of the
goals of doing the show and I've got to
imagine it similar for you is to one I
don't want people to think that what
I've achieved is a result of being
extraordinary like nobody thought
anything of me as a kid not voted most
likely to succeed grew up in Tacoma
Washington like undereducated in my
opinion and um but just started like
Brick by Brick you like today I will
start visualizing using words which I
have never before right so that's
incredibly powerful for sure it's
powerful so taking like those bricks you
get enough of them and then you're able
to execute at a higher level I mean
that's like Point number one to doing
the show it's pretty and I want to talk
I also have a show called Chase Jarvis
live on Creative live it's like it's
somewhat a selfish behavior because you
want to sit down with the world's top
experts you know that's actually why
creative live exists cuz I wanted to
learn from these people I wanted sure I
certainly wanted to give them a platform
and connect the audience that I had
built over years and years of hard work
accidentally built an audience and
wanted to connect them with my friends
who were the best in the world but you
know my my personal interview show and
in park creative live is very much about
how can I be next to people who Inspire
the hell out of me um and if you can add
enough value to them and like I'm
clearly going to get value from being on
your show and you know I'm I'm hoping
that you know tell me is that one of the
reasons that you started the show 100%
yeah it it it's close to the only reason
like just wanting to learn you know
wanting to encounter people and so and
at the time that we started it was
originally a show called inside Quest
and we had 1,400 employees and we had in
fact this is something I want to talk to
you about we had this list of our core
values and I didn't want them to
memorize it and not live them and so I
wanted to bring people in just cuz I was
utterly convinced that some there were
25 bullet points that every guess that
came on would relate to and just
naturally espouse one two three four
five of the different bullet points and
people would see like hey these are cuz
it wasn't like this is what you need to
do to be successful at Quest this is
what you need to do to be successful at
anything yeah and so hearing these high
level people come in and talk about it
naturally and then be able to go okay
yeah that really is like exactly what is
on this
list that was uh that was a real big
driver for me as well so true talk about
the same thing in Creative life we have
core values it's the thing we spend the
most time talking about in our All Hands
meetings your core values are amazing
walk us through a couple of the ones
that you think are just critical since
you asked me to choose a couple I'll
just choose the first three because I
think they're the the top ones which is
creativity access and community so
creativity um I think it's the thing
that that differentiates us from so many
the species on the planet um the fact
that we can take two disperate IDE ideas
that weren't otherwise together put
those things together to make something
new and ideally useful um Can people
train themselves to do that absolutely
it's not a it's not a skill it's a habit
I love that um I how does one get into
that habit yeah you get into it by doing
it that's the thing it feels very
unnatural at first and then uh you know
try things like morning Pages try things
like creating something every day since
we all have phones with this it's very
easy to do these things playing the
guitar taking pictures every day writing
in a journal all those things will make
you better brain insg a better athlete a
better like there's the science is
abundantly clear that creativity creates
creativity uh I should know the study
there's this great study that um is is
unequivocal like creativity creates
creativity um and it doesn't really it's
not necessarily field specific just
there's new Pathways in the brain of
connecting unlikely things to make
something new and useful so having that
as a core value is a no-brainer um it is
also you know that's one of my core
missions as a human is to make the world
a more creative place um second one
access uh I realized when I decided you
know threw away everybody else's
narrative for me that I wanted to be a a
Creator a professional photographer and
a
director um
that when I looked around that I didn't
have access to experts this is really
pre or early net no the idea behind the
scenes video like that those words
didn't even they were never put together
behind the scenes video like it wasn't a
part of the Lexicon of culture and I was
like wait a minute this is terrible
because there are so many people you
know they did call it mentors but
mentors were behind locked doors and you
know and Ivory Towers uh and buildings
covered with Ivy and I didn't have
access to any of that and uh so I had to
sort of take the swings myself learn
from experience it's like why am I doing
this and like so many other people could
benefit so I started sharing that that
first sort of inclination access is in
part I believe while I why I was sitting
here today because I'm I have cultivated
a world where that is normal a world
around me that's what creative live um
obviously it's a core value there but I
started out as a photographer by sharing
Trade Secrets this is what it's like
this is my behind the scenes with um you
know professional athlete XY or Z or
this famous snowboard or whatever and
this is what it's like to suck this is
what it's like to get a job and lose a
job and and um providing access to my
life and it was totally incidental I was
trying to help my industry because I
figured if I could set a paradigm for
sharing secrets about photography that I
could actually someone else would
reciprocate and I could learn something
too um that's access and Community is
our third
one um Community is also I think it's
fundamentally one of the reasons that
I'm sitting here on your couch having
built community and having you know when
I mentioned earlier why did you start
the show but you're also your building
Community you're sing your serving your
own needs by you know having people that
are inspirational to you sit here on the
on the chair in the chair next to you
but everyone in the room and and Beyond
ultimately that distills to community
and if you've given value to that
Community I'm sure you've also received
a ton of value the folks who are liking
and sharing and helping support your
your vision and Mission here same is
true for cre live we have 10 million
students we serve every country on the
planet so this this crazy Global
community of creators who we all trying
to figure it out who are all told that
you know only some of us are creative
we're all told that in order to be a
great artist you you shouldn't touch
business in order to be a business
person then you just have to be
Cutthroat and you know I just don't
believe in those paradigms and if we can
learn and leverage one another's skills
and share information then how much
better would the world be so that's sort
of three of the par three of the the
core values three of our our seven these
are how we make decisions in the company
I love it all right where can these guys
find you online before I ask my final
question oh that was
fast whoa uh I'm on I'm at Chase dvis
personally creative live is at creative
live all one word on everything um and
to me that would that would bring me
great joy if I wonder if we could do
something you guys have some show notes
we'll try and do something for your
audience we'll try and get a special a
discount code or something I'll work on
that um so that we can support your your
community um and you know that'd be my
first and foremost ask is to go there um
come find me I'm I'm accessible using my
core value um all right now you got a
you got a big I'm going to drink some
water while you ask question take a Sit
take a sip here we go the the audience
already knows what I'm going to ask all
right but uh yes what is my friend the
impact that you want to have on the
world impact
ah um I would like to help other people
live their dreams whether that's in
career in Hobby or in
life
um to me that that is an impact that has
a lever behind it but I have never seen
or felt um the world More Alive the
people around me more alive than when
they are doing the thing that makes them
feel great and so if the impact that I
can have is to provide more
opportunities and more options and more
focus on that as the goal of life living
your truth authentically then I would
die happy man that's incredible then
tell them why playing it safe is the
most dangerous thing they could do I
don't know if you heard Cuban recently
came out and said that um it's not
programming jobs that are jobs of the
future because all those will be
automated because when programming can
program for itself what do you need you
need creativity you need ideation you
need the ability to differentiate not
just on math because it's not all about
math it's math plus the human element so
creativity is actually the most valuable
thing in the Next Generation it is the
first time in the history of the world
where those systems that have been in
place that were
quote the safe bets go to college you
know get good grades you'll get a good
job then you'll work for a company for
40 years you get the gold watch and
you'll have a great retirement that's
just fundamentally not true a the school
system is changing it's being you know
it's leaving behind so many people um B
employment there's going to be I think
53 million Americans are going to have a
side Hustle by
2020 whoa and the four-year University
is not at all set up to accommodate that
not not accommodate it sounds like it's
being graceful to deal with that um and
if our parents had one job we will have
five the next generation will have five
jobs at the same time and if you think
along those those
paradigms all of the old systems are
completely inadequate and that is why
creative live exists that is why that
your you will learn an infinite amount
of skills over the next you know X
number of years in your life in a way
that's much different than the way you
learned 10 or 15 years ago and learning
is the new sort of Master Paradigm it's
the first time in the history of the
world that the safe thing is now the
riskiest thing you can do and if you're
not paying attention to this stuff like
you need to wake up I don't know if you
read the headlines lately but and you
know it's it shouldn't be a fear thing
it's it maybe we change that and like
what an amazing time it is where we have
access to this knowledge where the it
doesn't cost a million dollars creative
life has a free option and there's so
many other learning sites you just got
freaking YouTube like what are you doing
what's the next thing for you that is
going to keep you on that path that I
referenced earlier I love that man thank
you so much for super grateful for
having on the show thank you guys that
last little bit of mental Jiu-Jitsu that
he did there at the end where don't
think about it from a fear perspective
start thinking about what an incredible
opportunity you're living through right
now in this world that is Chase Jarvis
that is what you're going to find as you
go deeper into his world and realize
that that is what this man is about he
looks at the world with just a fresh set
of eyes and sees solutions that other
people don't see and that's why as you
dive into his content he is going to
slowly draw you into a world that will
change you if you let it trust me it is
amazing I am very sad that we didn't get
a chance to talk about Kate and a lot of
other amazing things I'm telling you
what we touched on here today is a tip
of an iceberg that has just an abundance
of give to it it is going to offer you
things you can't even imagine so please
take him up on it dive into his content
see what it's all about it's really
really impactful and it's coming from
somebody who is truly a master of his
game and speaking on behalf of creative
live which I am not in any way shape or
form affiliated with but they have some
of the greatest teachers on the planet
people that have won pit Sur prises I
think uh so Richard Branson talked about
that in the intro dive into it man it's
free so that's how you change the world
you get out and you do stuff you do
stuff you do stuff and Chase Jarvis is a
master of getting things done my friend
said thank you so much for joining us
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