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welcome to this rousing edition of after
impact we're going deep on my boy Peter
diamandis and I'm your host Tom Bilu and
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probably dive in now we should let's do
it Peter diamandis for those of you who
don't know is is a Serial entrepreneur
he's the author of The book's bold and
abundance he's the founder of the X
prise organization and Singularity
University he's launched a number of
successful businesses and his next
Ventures involve figuring out um how we
can live forever and Mining asteroids so
needless to say he goes big yeah that
that is very true about Peter and he's
one of those guys
that really pushes you to think like how
do you really take it to the next level
and I remember when we were like we were
having all the success of quest was just
growing so fast and everyone was always
asking me like oh my gosh like how have
you guys like had the guts to like talk
about any metabolic disease and like and
Peter was like no but what's your
moonshot and I was like Peter like it
that that's pretty big and it really
pushed me to start thinking about
impacting the entire food chain and like
what does it look like to really change
the way that people are sourcing
ingredients and really going all the way
back
and how do you 10x all of that and I
love that about
him you guys know each other very well
now you're pretty good friends pet like
legitimately like Peter's one of those
guys it's not like a just
a what would you like a social friend or
an acquaintance that you round to a
friend I I know Peter well that's
awesome so tell us about what the xprize
organization is because I know you're
involved with that yeah so on the um
Innovation Board of the xprize and the
xprize is all about solving the world's
grandest challenges by doing incentive
prizes so Peter had read a book called
The Spirit of St Louis which was about
Lindberg crossing the Atlantic I'm
almost certain I have not read the book
okay um and I certainly didn't know that
that was incentivized by a prize and so
there was this guy that he grew up in
Paris and he was if I'm not mistaken
like the equivalent back then of a
billionaire so I don't know if he
actually had a billion dollars but so he
had moved to New York and so he wanted
to be able to travel home uh more easily
than a boat and so he created this prize
so that he could and that's why it was
from uh New York to Paris and or I think
it was Paris but anyway France and he
did that because that's where he wanted
to fly and so people ended up spending I
don't know hundreds it was like $400,000
to win a $40,000 prize and so Peter had
written in the margins like people spent
10 times the amount to solve the puzzle
than the person was on the hook to pay
out and so he thought this could be a
really interesting way to incentivize
space and so finding a way to um
incentivize private individuals so
rather than being beholden to the
government incentivizing a private
individual to solve the problem and so
that was the launch of the X prize which
gave birth to the company that virgin
bought and turned into Virgin Galactic
and it was won by Paul Allen one of the
co-founders of Microsoft and the guy I'm
I'm blanking on his name right now but
he's one of the most famous um aerospace
engineers like on the planet and they
came in secretly uh certainly Paul Allen
was a secret and just cuz they wanted to
see if they could pull it off yeah and I
think they actually spent more than the
prize money building it um just because
they were competitive and wanted to win
and there was so much attention and
excitement around it so it really is a
pretty amazing model for getting people
to solve problems that and this is a key
thing for the X prise getting people to
solve problems that industry isn't
already solving so there's like that
weird spot in the Middle where it's like
not right now it's not lucrative enough
for industry to go in and solve the
problem and I know they pulled one of
their prizes because at first they
thought they needed to incentivize I'm
forgetting now which one um but it was
something that then industry began
addressing very very quickly and so they
realized oh okay like this isn't
something that we have to solve industry
is going to take care of it so it's
things in that weird spot so like
cleaning up the ocean is a big one for
them privatized space flight was a big
one um you know and and some of
like it's just they're really trying to
have a road map
to really on a
longterm um scale have positive impact
so one prize stacks on another prize
stacks on another prize so they've done
multiple for cleaning up the ocean and
things like that so it's really pretty
incredible and Peter says in this
episode that all problems are only
contextually based I love that yeah
could you talk a little bit more about
what he means by that so people
understand yeah so he's talking about
like so his fundamental belief is that
any problem is solvable right but like
that's an easy one to nod but it's like
most people do not believe that right so
if you really believe that any problem
is solvable then the question becomes
how do we go out and solve those and the
reason that he believes that they're Sol
and and I say that by the way because
when you don't believe the problem is
solvable you don't take the steps the
actions to actually solve the problem so
um you know hearing some of the great
minds talk about global warming it's
like they just believe it's solvable
they like there's this great meme where
it's like this person lists all the like
things that would come from solving
global warming and somebody in the
audience goes but what if we create this
amazing world and we're not actually
responsible for the problem in the first
place and it's like well but you still
created an amazing world so it's like
what what is there to push back against
other than right now there's so much
money to be made in things that heat up
the atmosphere but when you take from
the perspective that or when you come
from the perspective that Peter comes
from which is this problem is solvable
this is something that we can do it can
lead into an industry then you begin to
take the steps that to actually solve
the problem so desalination I think is
is the perfect example of a contextually
based problem so what ridiculous
percentage of the earth is covered in
water it's like 60% or something I mean
it's ridiculous I I think it is more
I'll be really conservative it might be
as high as 80 but let's pretend for a
second that it's only 60 so the Earth is
essentially covered in water we're
considered a water planet um but there's
like it's like 1% of water or something
that is um drinkable right because the
rest has salt in it so you don't have a
water problem you have a salt problem
once you realize that's the truth right
the context is so people think we have a
water problem but really like once you
understand that if you could easily pull
the salt out your water problem goes
away so water shortages are contextually
based we actually have a water with salt
problem in that we're melting the polar
ice G sea levels are rising so it would
actually be pretty amazing like if you
could pull some of that water out use it
for things like irrigating like what
happens then right so um that that
desalination was the one that really
made me go whoo like it's just just a
shift of context to really rethink the
problem and so aluminum used to be one
of the most precious metals on Earth
because we didn't know how to like do
the process of extracting I think it's
electr is it's something like that that
actually does um makes it really easy to
extract the metal really inexpensive but
to give you an idea the Washington
Monument is actually capped with
aluminum the same thing that uh you make
your cat cans out of so because it was
it was considered so precious it was
like look guys this new country we're
flushed with cash like so much that we
can put aluminum on the and then you
know whatever 30 40 years later it
becomes like one of the most cheapest
and ubiquity Metals ever and that's just
context right so once you have that
process of extracting it it becomes Dirt
Cheap so that Peter's making a lot of
bets on that and that's what planetary
resources is all about is like okay
there's like I think it's helium 3 so we
actually have a helium shortage on earth
like did you know that no so oh this is
like a couple years ago I was trying to
go like fill some balloons and the store
was like we're at of helium and I'm like
okay and like is there like the next
Ralphs do they have more helium and
they're like no like it is a global
shortage and I was like what helium so
but like helium is like just
ridiculously abundant on like asteroids
which who would have guessed so if we
can create the technology and the
devices to go and land on these
asteroids and mine them I think Peter
said that there's like some that are
between1 and 10 trillion doll assets the
asteroids depending on how like because
obviously as it becomes more available
it's going to be cheaper so depending on
sort of how you devalue it for its
availability but that is like that's
dreaming big to me right that's that's
his abundant thinking when he said that
that there are asteroids that are
trillion dollar assets I was like what
yeah right like how many zeros are in a
trillion that just blew my mind and just
like thinking about the the known
universe in a completely different way
it's like never would even considered
that that would be something we would
want to do or that that had value right
it has so much value so so really just
just for a second um let's pretend that
we don't have an audience and I just
want to like the thing that excites me
the most in life what happens when you
can get people to do two things one that
they allow themselves to believe that
they could acquire the skills to be
capable of going and Mining an asteroid
right think about like just like a
random kid could be really bright like
who knows but they don't believe it like
they don't believe that they're going to
be able to do that and because they
don't believe that they don't they just
don't take the steps right they don't go
read about it they don't go learn they
don't like start asking questions and
one of the and I didn't recover it in
this interview because I'd already
covered it with Peter but an interviewer
once asked him so he has this idea we're
going to mine these near Earth asteroids
we're going to go huge assets we're
going to build the spacecraft that are
needed to get there and like the moment
you say spacecraft like people are like
what the [ __ ] like that's so audacious
that most people are just going shut
down and I think what people don't
understand is Peter actually has an
aerospace engineering degree from MIT
like this guy is so bright like he's so
like and you know me I don't overvalue
intelligence but when you got it it's
like a nice addition if you have a
growth mindset this dude is like crazy
bright and so he's like okay we can you
know build these spaceships um and just
has the willingness to be that audacious
and the interviewer asked him so you
know um how much money do you think
you'll have to raise like
how are you going to be profitable like
how are you going to span the next 10
years before this is really viable and
Peter was like we're already profitable
because here's what makes Peter
interesting he goes okay I want to get
to near Earth asteroids but I know that
that's like a 10-year Gap right to build
the spacecraft and all that but each
piece of technology that we have to
develop along the way is monetizable and
so he first created things that you can
put into satellites and they look back
at Earth because he has to be able to
identify what is the asteroid made of
but if you can point a sensor at an
asteroid and say what it's made of you
can point it at the Earth and say what
it's made of so you could point it at
crops and say what are those crops and
you could find out globally what's being
planted um what's dying due to um you
know like uh problems with the crops or
whatever and so he was able to make the
company profitable by using Those
sensors in other applications and so the
second part of my initial thing that I
brought up which is okay so they allow
themselves to believe and then what
happens when they actually understand
how to execute right so Peter knows both
he knows how to dream big which most
people already they just don't know how
to do that anyone right and this is my
obsession anyone can learn how to do
that so literally fundamentally those
are the two problems that I want impact
Theory to solve most heavily focused on
teaching people how to think how to
dream so and and how to believe and I'm
just realizing that's a huge part of our
mission getting people to believe that
they can do it yeah so what happens when
you have you know whatever the four new
billion Minds coming online and and
quite frankly 99% of the billion or the
the people that are already online don't
believe in themselves don't believe they
don't understand what the human animal
is truly capable of so what happens when
they believe they can do it and then
they actually learn how to execute I
think that um the like we're in one of
these transitional moments so mitaku in
his book future physics I think God will
somebody please remind me to actually
look up the title of the book for some
reason I've become obsessed and I read
this like 2 years ago put in the
comments thank you uh but for whatever
reason all of the sudden I'm uh this
just keeps coming up and he talks about
how um civilizations are basically
tiered I can't remember what word he
uses but uh a stage five civilization
can harness the power of a star I think
that's the stage that he has it at and
so it's like I feel like we're on this
cusp with AI with nanotechnology with
all that stuff that's coming on board
that we're about to like level up from
stage one to stage two or whatever stage
we're at to go to the next one and that
to me is is I believe truly truly by the
way I truly believe impact Theory us the
people here like we're going to be able
to help in our way with the mentality to
help push us to the next stage as a as a
civilization yeah and let's talk about
that too because um one thing you guys
addressed in the episode was that
there's a lot of fear around AI there's
a lot of fear around the technology and
uh Peter said that it's going to there
will be magnitudes of change um in the
coming decades y so how do we prepare
for that all right so first and foremost
people have to understand what is going
to change to the best of our ability to
predict it because at some point it
becomes unpredictable but to the best of
our ability what are the things that are
going to change and then really really
really learn how to embrace change and
get excited about change remember you
can change your mindset around anything
so let's say that you're one of those
people you're absolutely terrified of
change like you don't want anything to
do with it um you can flip a switch and
find a way to get really into it and
I'll give you like the Baseline the
Baseline in fact uh Chase as my resident
Note Taker I'm going to write a book
about how
you build your mindset around things
like this so just like the the actual
process um that'll be interesting so
book one getting out of the Matrix yeah
book two um how to do things like get
yourself to like something that you
don't currently like because it it is
doable by the way and walking people
through sort of the neuroscience and all
that anyway um it's incredibly powerful
it's an area that most people push back
on and this may be the thing that like
impact Theory filters for right CU I
always say that I'm a filter if I can
get you to believe that you can change
even fundamental things like that like
um God what is a great example okay my
wife makes me eat this Manuka honey if
you guys ever heard of it I've actually
tasted it okay and it tastes like
flowers tastes like a mouth full of
flowers it is not pleasant in any way
shape or form got a licoricey taste nope
because I love licorice it tastes like a
mouthful of flowers my friend like and
my wife says the same thing it tastes
like licorice if it tastes like licorice
like you'd have to knock the jar out of
my hand because I love me some licorice
like real licorice flavor like black
licorice let's be really clear fennel
licorice is a flavor so there's no such
thing as red licorice black licorice
okay licorice is the black stuff that's
it that's what I mean I wanted to make
sure we were talking about the same
thing yes I wanted to Define our terms I
I get like I feel such a a pride over
Licorice and I don't want to like derail
on this because it's like totally
divisive I had no idea like growing up
as a kid I ate it thinking everybody
loves licorice only to find that one of
my most beloved authors Bill Waton the
guy that did um Calvin and Hobbs likened
it to writhing mag
and I was I was Crest falling because I
felt betrayed so yeah I'm very defensive
over thereis um but so Manuka honey
don't like it but it's like from a uh
I'm I am totally obsessed with the
microbiome and I think that I'm like
going deep on the research on this I
think it's I think it's so much bigger
than we think it is and I think really
very few people are really looking at it
to the level that they need to and I
believe that I have single-handedly
allowed my wife to suffer more than she
has needed to because I have not
um got a deep enough understanding of
that so I'm really going to go hard on
that and as I'm researching this and
really learning about it I realized
Manuka Honey is a very powerful um
source of probiotics like naturally and
so like I just had to flip a switch in
my mind I may not like the taste like
okay that's irrelevant but I can get
excited about eating it because I know
what it's doing for me so I'm focusing
on that part that is so powerful and so
useful and something I do in the gym so
with the gym hate working out so some
days I focus on hey man you're a stud
like you're willing to do this thing
that you hate and then other times I'm
like I actually want to feel pleasure
right now so I'm going to focus on the
results I'm going to focus on what it's
going to do to my strength what it's
going to do to my physique my leanness
um how I feel about myself all that
right so uh both of those are very
important so that'll be there's a
preview of the book um so that all of
those things are possible so people need
to really um learn to embrace that
change I'm so proud of myself right now
because I have not gotten lost in any of
this came so um really like
understanding that you can um pull that
off like that's that's really important
so you have to learn to embrace change
change is going to be the scary part
understanding where um what things are
actually going to change what jobs are
going to go away cuz that's the part
that's going to freak people out so um
when the jobs go away and jobs that like
people aren't thinking about like those
are going to go away but there are
people talking about this so just you
can start researching um go to credible
sources because I'm sure there's a lot
of inflammatory stuff Peter's a great
place to start he writes about this a
lot very optimistically and I think very
truthfully um drivers gone it's gone if
you're a driver right now this stop this
video and I don't often encourage people
to do that stop this video and go start
acquiring other skills if you're a
driver um other like doctors going to go
away it's going to go away think about
IBM Watson like if you're my doctor and
I have to worry about what you did last
night and if it's like did you sleep
well like are do you have any sort of
mental fatigue um do you know my entire
history probably not but IBM Watson
could and not only know my history but
know all the people like Facebook their
whole um like audiences like who are
people like Tom right and what have they
suffered from and like
what reactions might he have that are
unique to him that you'll have fed your
DNA into it you'll fed your DNA you'll
fed your the DNA of your microbiome and
like hey viome so this is now I'm going
hard today on um on impact Theory alumni
so two things while we're on impact
Theory alumni Gary ve has launched his
new show go watch it planet of the apps
it's [ __ ] awesome it's absolutely
hilarious he's so funny he's classic
Gary interrupting people like every two
seconds um but his advice is
unbelievable and I really think he's
going to be like the breakout star in
that and then viome which is a company
founded by uh another impact Theory alum
naen Jane who's looking at the
RNA of the viruses so in your biome you
should have um viruses fungi and
bacteria okay like I'm reading this book
right now called the human super
organism and it talks about how bro what
you think of as you is a shell like
you're literally a a car for bacteria
fungi but seriously like 1% of the DNA
wrapped in you and it's not even in you
so much of it is on you but in and on
you 1% is
Maman one and now like I'm at the part
in the book where they're talking about
like and by the way there's this thing
called Gene transfer where genes can be
actually like um the hypothesis and
nobody's really sure to what extent it
works with humans but that um genes can
be transferred between organisms and if
that's true how much of what we consider
Mamon is actually Maman and how much of
it is bacterial and viral and fungal
like it's nuts so I think we're at the
precipice of really beginning to
understand human beings so anyway like
the big thing is you have to understand
change doctors are going to go away uh
drivers are going to go away maybe
teachers are going to go away like like
imagine a world in which education is
like video games right and we've talked
about this before right now education is
done in sort of a scarcity mindset there
can only be so many a
and we all have to go like at the same
Pace like that doesn't make sense if you
give 10 kids a video game and say hey
let's say it's a firstperson shooter um
you give it to all of them like I
remember the first time that I played a
first-person shooter do you know how
spatially disorienting that was for me
like I literally I what is happening and
I was just getting killed over and over
and over cuz your brain has to mate you
have to figure out like and one I'm bad
at spatial relations anyway so like I
was just slower to learn that but my
friend Chris fander mad shout out to
that kid uh he's so good at first-
person shooters so anytime we'd play
together he'd just W me and so it's like
if if that were the education it's like
well he's going to go way faster in that
than I'm but I can get as good as him I
just have to put more time in practice
there's certain things that I have to
get better at so like if you can make
education like that so that no kid is
Left Behind that is all a test of
execution it's all about skills so
either you can pass a level or you can't
whatever the thing is history science
mathematics doesn't matter like you're
setting it up in a way where I get to
the point where I can no longer do it
anymore and then I fail and just like in
a video game you die you start over and
then you get a little bit farther
because you're learning a new skill
you're figuring it out you're assessing
like once we can make education like
that like I don't know how a teacher
like other than coring people like
they're just not going to be as good and
one thing my sister's doing this is
[ __ ] interesting and so and I'm also
making a huge bet um here on chat Bots
and my sister and I are talking about
like what are chat Bots what's the
future of this going to be I'm trying to
turn myself into a chat bot which I
think is very very fascinating and then
my sister is trying to create
educational chat bots so that like Bill
and Ted's Excellent Adventure that you
could literally have a conversation with
um linkoln with JFK um you know where
you're taking all of this material all
that we know about them even down to the
point where you can get the chat B this
isn't today Ian this is going to take
her 10 years to get there but she'll
just like Peter she'll start with
something that's monetizable today and
then it grows but you would take in like
his Cadence right so the way that he
talks and so the way that he talks would
be different than the way that Lincoln
talks and uh just could be incredible
especially if we can tap into the power
of the crowd and do something like
Wikipedia style so anyway she's working
on that and working with some
universities and stuff it's pretty
interesting I'm in a good mood today I'm
feeling really energized so I can keep
going but I'll stop all right let's uh
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question from our Facebook live audience
because we have a lot of people asking
questions nice uh first let's do some
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from
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have zanette Georgia Nicolas Zoros from
who Greece there it is should have
guessed should have guessed um yasu
gumes cool so here is a question from
Joshua Martell our boy yeah 3D pop
designs mhm my man he says there was a
scene in Star Trek first Contact where
there was a pivotal point in history
where something needed to happen for the
history of Star Trek to happen I just
wonder what are the things that we are
doing today that are those PIV points in
history that are do or die that moves us
toward the future any thoughts from Tom
um I don't I don't think there are any
Do or Die moments I think that history
is or um life is sort of like a living
organism like you know how people say
anything happens for or everything
happens for a reason I don't believe
that but I do believe that meaning can
be extracted from anything so whatever
happens will rebound we're such a
resilient species um yeah so I I think
that the stream of Life Will Go where
it's going to go it'll Meander it'll be
influenced by beautiful things that
happened terrifying things that happened
um but think about it like the the
plague the Spanish Flu of 1918 like most
people don't even talk about it happened
right after World War I so World War I
kills millions of people it's just
utterly devastating and then this
Spanish Flu comes along and kills
something like 10 times more people than
died in the war nobody ever talks about
it like people were just so like they
couldn't handle anym talk about death
and so like I didn't hear about the
Spanish I knew about World War I right
we can all agree about that but I made
it until I was probably in my early 30s
before I heard about the Spanish Flu of
1918 so I mean it's crazy so but
something like that which killed it K
like it it measured like on the it
killed something like 2% of the global
population I mean it's that's a lot my
friend yeah
and people don't even know about it
you know like think about the plague um
the Bubonic plague that hit London it
decimated the population
decimated and took it from I it was
ridiculous it took it I'm making these
numbers up but emotionally it felt
something like I feel like Trump right
now with some alternate facts but like
it did something like take the
population of um London from like 2
million down to like 600,000 I mean it's
just ridic it just went through with a
scythe and just killed killed killed so
but you bounce back no sense of it today
right like none of us worry about it so
there will be catastrophic things happen
global warming right we're going to lose
the Maldives peace right it's just going
to happen Venice is already sinking it's
crazy like there are already towns where
like the waters coming up and over we're
probably going to lose like 60% of
Manhattan it's not going to end the
world so these are all terrifying things
by the way and I think we should do
everything we can to stop them but in
terms of what do I think are do or die I
don't think there are Do or Die moments
um you said that you don't believe that
everything happens for a reason correct
um in the episode I'm I'm fascinated I
you'll probably see I do this a lot I
pick up on little like sort of throwaway
comments that the guests make because
they always fascinate me the most and he
said something about um he was talking
about like the difference between
successful people and unsuccessful and
saying that you know the successful
people they have Drive they have grit um
they have better experiences to draw
upon um cuz they've you know done things
and worked on those and perhaps a little
bit of luck along the way do you believe
in luck 100% 100% And dude like so first
of all luck is when opportunity meets
preparedness so you have to be prepared
and so an infinite amount of luck passes
people by all the time so I don't focus
on the luck part I focus on being ready
for it but there is no question luck
Serendipity like whatever you want to
call it like is very real and you need
to be very ready to capitalize on it and
I just really believe like if you focus
on and there's a quote by Larry Bird and
he said I have a theory if you show up
every day and give 110% things are going
to work out okay as a paraphrase but
that gives you an I love that like 100%
like if you show I'm just trying to be
great dude I'm trying to be [ __ ]
great and when I look back so there's a
few areas in my life I am literally
trying to be world class okay one of
which is interviewing I am I am in no
uncertain terms I'm trying to be the
globally recognized heavyweight champion
at interviewing period now I have my
reasons for that won't go into them here
I've been capped in Tangent today but
that's like really important to me now
because of that like and this isn't
something I can really like give people
a sense of but when we started this um I
had like a billion- dollar brand behind
me I felt like like the the company at
least like was visible even if people
didn't know who I am and I would be
sitting across from people interviewing
them and I would like a huge part of
what I had to do was get them to take me
seriously cuz they had no idea who I was
they didn't know the company they didn't
know me it was like Christopher stalked
them and got them on the show like he
worked his magic but they literally they
had no context and so I had to like in a
few minutes before they go on like I try
to give them context so that they would
show up and play right cuz that's the
big thing like people sleepwalk through
the interview if they don't like know
who you are so and now my friend now my
friend literally I have guests when I
start doing the like context setting
they're like you don't have to tell me
your story I know who you are and that's
like whoo like what a change and it's a
change because I'm trying to be great
and so now because of that like we're
getting luckier right we're getting
people on the show that we wouldn't have
been able to get but I I don't fool
myself into thinking that it's not still
timing like they were available they
were coming through la um that they how
did they see that first show Christopher
was able to get them on the phone like
there's a thousand pieces that we can't
control that had to come together for
that moment to happen but it came
together and then I [ __ ] delivered
right and that's the like that's the big
thing so think about Gary ve that was a
big win for us right been trying forever
to get him on the show literally I think
over a year trying to get him on the
show Almost happened once and then the
schedule fell apart and by the way his
schedule fell apart as code for he
didn't give a [ __ ] right which I don't
take personally by the way like rightly
so he's got to judge like who are the
right people for me to allocate my time
and energy to like you have to be
relentless with that stuff so I don't
take it personally but like I get it I
wasn't a priority at the time so um it
didn't happen but it was
like did I deliver an interview yes or
no and I did right so and people wrote
in the comments and I recognized on set
I was like yeah [ __ ] like I was so
prepared for that interview that and and
prepared in like a thousand ways I knew
Gary's story right but that to me is
like you shouldn't be doing an interview
if you don't know somebody's story so I
know a story very well to me that's just
like the antie every interviewer should
know that but then I've done a thousand
things to prepare mentally emotionally
um like don't be a vampire right I see
interviewers do that a lot like they're
trying to ride on the and you can see me
in my early interviews trying to be a
vampire like trying to ride on their
energy trying to show up and like show
like look at me look at me and so
getting to the point where I didn't do
that so that I could give Gary an
interview that he loved so that then he
would talk about it right for his own
reasons like that's how you take
advantage of luck you be insanely
prepared but don't fool yourself there's
a massive amount of luck in all of this
the timing at Quest without the timing
if we tried to the same three people
tried to do the exact same thing now
wouldn't work timing yeah totally lucky
on that I I got pissed off with chasing
money at exactly the right moment what
if I'd gotten pissed off two years later
the window would have been gone so it
was like luck all right that's great um
I'm with you on that full uh 100% Let's
uh let's go to our Facebook live
audience just a reminder here we are on
after impact this is the episode where
we go deep into the episode of impact
Theory we're discussing Peter D amandas
today if you haven't seen the episode
it's a really fascinating one and it's a
it's a followup from the original inside
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our audience Peter says there are three
things and this is um around the time
when he's talking about his kids um and
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question from our audience so this one
is from zanette who we got a shout out
from and do we really have a lot of
question questions like should we try to
do some rapid fire uh we can yeah all
right let's do rapid fire all right keep
this is a long question for so we'll see
we'll see how far we can get Peter is
worried that he isn't able to impact his
kids the way his dad impacted him
through being a Survivor what is a
modern day equivalent to that form of
survival only because where we are right
now is so abundant in information and
opportunities but increasingly lacking
the right type of mindset or tools to
deal with all the techn technological
advancement
cacophony um I can only tell you this
that if I had kids the strategy that I
would
use um lead by example they need to see
me suffer they need to see me being
willing to suffer and I think suffering
is hugely important so they need to see
the amount of effort that I put in they
need to see moments like me playing My
Flu Game where I have the flu
legitimately I'm on my ass and I still
get up I do the research I [ __ ] write
the intros um and I do two interviews
backto back on the same day whenever
you're like really sick you have three
days that are absolute hell and of
course day two and day three of the hell
were prep and performance so it was a
nightmare they need to see that and I
think that then getting them in
situations where they have to suffer and
I've heard cool things I think it was
from Angela Duckworth the author of grit
where if her kids sign up for something
they don't force them to but if you sign
up for ballet your ass is doing it for a
year no offend or butts so if you want
to quit too bad you can quit at the end
of the year but you're like once you're
in you're in for a year I love that
things like too I like that um let's see
another question is from Jay Velasco
hello from Orange County where do you
think AI is going to make the greatest
impact medicine Health
100% cool there you have it from Cory G
Roa where do you feel the work force
will shift to after AI becomes a larger
factor I haven't thought enough about it
to give you a really intelligent answer
but humans have a way of finding the
gaps so we're going to fill the gaps and
God if I could just beg everyone to
follow your bliss so wherever that takes
you whatever hole opens up um fill that
and please please please like don't
think because you've always done it one
way or that you have a current frame of
reference based on your age when you
grew up and all that stuff that that's
how it has to be like get out of that
start using SnapChat start like take the
five things that you find most
ridiculous about kids and engross
yourself go in fall in love I was so
paranoid about social media when it
first came out that I lied excuse me
about my birth date on Facebook I was
just convinced someone was going to
steal my identity and so I I lied about
it literally with that fear and now I'm
like all I do all day is social media
because I'm very um happy to change my
context whenever needed to stay fresh
cool um there's a lot of questions in
here I'm actually noticing now that are
about jobs and AI let's do it let's go
into all of them uh what skills should
we learn if jobs are going to get
replaced by AI all right the the big
thing is um really learning how to to
adapt so understanding the way that the
human mind can adapt and going out and I
think one of the things that we have to
realize now is certainly every 10 years
reinvent yourself and that's something
that people just don't do I think that's
probably going to shorten a little bit
maybe it gets to 7 six years like it's
going to crush down and so people have
to have the framework like I know how to
learn I know how to begin the very big
and arduous process of learning like the
microbiome is gigantic right and with
the tools that we have today oh my God
like it's so easy it's offensive when
people are paralyzed like I don't know
where to
say y
tube.com drop into the search box the
[ __ ] term drop in microbiome and then
pick the one that looks most like a
cartoon most like it's AED at a child
start there you begin to get the terms
the terms you don't understand actually
hit pause go look them up like I
remember so I wanted a bigger vocabulary
so what did I do [ __ ] R Clive Barker
cuz that man's vocabulary makes me want
to punch him in the head it is so
amazing and it makes me feel so badly
about myself and I would highlight the
word and because I didn't want to like
totally [ __ ] up my flow if I could get
the gist from the the sentence I would
just move on if I couldn't I would look
it up right then so I carried Clive
Barker and I carried a dictionary this
is like pre- cell phones kids so I had
those two with me wherever I went and
like if I was on the Subway or something
then I would be reading highlight look
up the ones I had to and then at night I
would have the discipline before I went
to bed I would look up every word that
ID highlighted and I would write down
what it meant and like that's how you
expand your vocabulary so you literally
go through do that learning how to learn
that's I'll stop there there's so much
more but let's go to the next question
what's your I want to dive in a little
bit deeper here what is your process I
just want to point out that Jared is
[ __ ] up the rapid fire yeah you could
say [ __ ] it up or actually enriching
this discussion I think you however you
want to look at all right enrich enr way
what is your process right now for
studying the microbiome like so um first
learning about it so I went on
audible.com and I looked up books that
had amazing a lot of reviews and amazing
reviews so 4.5 to five stars um and
making sure that they have man if they
have north of a thousand reviews like
you almost can't lose and so finding a
book that just had a lot of reviews
really high rating sounded like it was
exactly what I wanted to know um and
then I went in so any book that has like
I I don't remember how much maybe this
one only had 150 I don't remember but
any book that has like a lot of reviews
on even a really big topic means that
it's accessible to the masses that's key
CU some people can write for the masses
and some can't so um that that was big
so I started in that book and then I
would just hit pause like every time he
said something I didn't understand and I
would look it up and sometimes I'd watch
like entire videos on it um on so this
book is going to take me forever to read
let's just start there because there's
so much information and I don't
understand like he would say organel and
I'm like what the [ __ ] is an organel and
so I'd have to go look that oh okay I
get it right and he'd be like um
organisms are broken into three types
and like here they are and I'd have to
go look up each one but like when you're
not afraid to be ignorant and I am I'm
just not afraid to be ignorant so
because that's how you Empower yourself
so okay cool I don't understand that
that seems like I should probably
understand it and there were things that
I looked up and then realized like he
just moved on from it and I was like oh
jeez I didn't really need that right now
but you can't take that knowledge away
now I've got it yay I'm taking copious
notes and then I'm literally every
morning so when I eat my breakfast I let
myself watch something I want to watch
on YouTube so um a lot of times it's you
know inspiring videos or something about
marketing or whatever now it's just all
microbiome so um this morning while I
was eating my chips I'm watching you
know videos on the microbiome and just
trying to figure it out and I really do
start with like now I've gotten to the
point where I don't need the cartoony
ones anymore but like I started there
and now I'm like so at first I literally
put in microbiome and so you're get the
most generic most basic and you'll find
that the microbiome videos all have a
loop just like in an interview I'm
trying to find the person's Loop when do
people start repeating themselves so I
hear the same thing over and over so I
watch a bunch of videos I find the loop
of like the really basic what's the
microbiome and they talk about how you
have summon your gut and someon your
mouth and someon your skin and that's
like sort of the basic Loop and that
they work in conjunction with us and
that we're actually only 1% of our DNA
is mamalian and 99% is bacterial fungal
and viral and okay like I got that Loop
now so now I've added microbiome
research now research is like one of
those heavy words I know it's going to
take me Upstream so and I'll just keep
refining my searches longer and longer
tail uh maybe there'll be a concept that
really jumps out to me also I want to
find out where's the friction like where
are scientists disagreeing I'm not there
yet I know that's where I'll get in the
future like right now my next question
what do you do when that happens well
then you have to develop a world view
you have to you have to come to cuz
here's like and this is something that
I'm on a Terror on socially like if you
actually want to get ahead you need to
have a real worldview like where you
believe certain things and you don't
believe others right if you're just
chasing somebody you'll never be as good
as them because they're going to go
somewhere counterintuitive and you'll be
like who I never would have guessed they
would say that but because they have
like this Instinct they've got a
worldview there's something inside them
just tell they'll hear something and go
that doesn't ring true like everything
that I know and they're willing to trust
their gut and push in that direction and
at least learn and maybe they end up
being wrong but like they're willing to
go down that path so you can't handle
the friction until you really know like
what is I understand how this works like
I get the functioning of this and so the
example I'll give so um the medical
device company neurovance that I've
gotten involved with um my whole thing
was like they're pitching me this device
and they're talking about how it uses
the vestibular nerve to um trigger
weight loss and I'm like wao like I've
never heard that before so now they're
outside my worldview right right and so
they're explaining like here's why we
think it works that the body basically
is like an iPhone it just has sensors um
it doesn't count calories which is true
about the body by the way the body
doesn't track how many calories you've
taken in so it's like wait a second if
the body doesn't know how many calories
I've taken in like how does it determine
whether to up ramp metabolism or not and
so their whole thing is movement and the
vestibular nerve tracks movement so if
that's true and like you know it's it's
it's basically zapping you and telling
your vestibular nerve wow I'm like
moving all over the place like don't
store fat lean body mass that's all we
need and so as he's saying it I'm like
okay wait a second now you've clicked
into my worldview because the only thing
I know that's associated with exercise
um Beyond fat loss is anxiety and
depression so now right now all of a
sudden and this is where I think they
decided they wanted to be involved with
me was I said wait a second if that's
true then this should impact anxiety and
depression and they were like that's
exactly where the research is now but
that's just me going I know how
something works I and and by that I mean
I know there's some correlation even
though I don't know what it is and I
can't even say that it's causation but I
know there's some correlation between
being active and being fit anxiety and
depression right you just read the
literature people are going to tell you
hey you're feeling anxious and depressed
go [ __ ] work out and and I see it in
myself I feel it in myself so I know
that it's real from an experiential
standpoint so once you've got a broad
enough understanding and you trust
yourself then you find these moments
where it clicks and you're like I
actually know how this works and once
you have that then when you find the
friction in the science you you may be
wrong but you'll pick a side right and
you go okay I think I think this is
interesting and then the really really
important part once you pick a side and
you're getting real cocky and you really
think you understand it this is where we
separate the men from the boys can you
fear Dogma more than you fear anything
else so once I pick a side I'm like I
want