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How to Go From Failing Student to Rocket Scientist | Olympia LePoint on Impact Theory
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Kind: captions Language: en everybody welcome to impact Theory you were here my friends because you believe the human potential is nearly limitless but you know that having potential is not the same as actually doing something with it so our goal with this show and company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that will help you actually execute on your dreams all right today's guest clawed her way out of failure and poverty to become an award-winning rocket scientist who helped NASA launched twenty eight space missions by working her ass off despite a brutal childhood that saw her stabbed in the face by a young gang member abused and at times eating only ice because her family couldn't afford food and failing at high school algebra geometry calculus and chemistry she was still able to transcend her circumstances and ultimately went on to graduate in the top five of her college class with a degree in mathematics but her struggles didn't stop there hired by Boeing at 21 she found herself very out of place as a young woman of color in a male-dominated world often the only woman in a roomful of roughly 200 men she had to endure hazing and discrimination on an almost daily basis despite that however leveraging her talent and drive she managed to rise up the ranks and have an astonishingly successful career she won the modern-day technology leader award and in 2004 she was awarded Boeing's company professional excellence award her achievements have landed her on countless high-profile shows including NBC and CBS News dr. Drew's life changers oprah.com PBS and her TED talk on reprogramming the brain to overcome fear is incredibly popular since leaving the world of rocket science she's applied her mathematical skills to banking and education alike ultimately founding her own company and she's now the CEO of Oh L consulting Corporation and publishing where she is inspiring and educating the next generation as a popular speaker and creator of science-based entertainment and education please help me in welcoming the woman People magazine named the modern day hidden figure the author of matha phobia and most recently answers unleashed the unleashing your brain's power Olympia Lapointe so good to have you on the show oh wow so your story is crazy thank you there's growing up hard and there's growing up hard you definitely overcame a lot walk us through that a little bit cuz I think that what you accomplished even if you'd come from an upper middle-class family would have been extraordinary but to have really had to struggle the way that you did and it'll be so hard to capture here the way that it is in the book how just so many things are going on at once but you managed to fight through that but give us a little taste well Tom thank you so much I'm just so so happy to be hearing a show and to share my story and to inspire your audience but what I really want to get across to people is that no matter what type of circumstances that you have been raised in or have experienced you always have the ability to find a way out and create success for yourself and I had to do that in my own life and it was not easy and in when I look back my childhood was very rough um I grew up in South Central Los Angeles I was a person who was in a single-family home it was my mother took care of four of us by herself as she struggled and we were on welfare we didn't have money and sometimes we didn't have food to eat and we didn't know any different but what the difference was was when we would go pass at the time it was USC was closed by us and I'd see all the college students go towards the campus and I thought to myself where are they going what are you doing why they look different than the rest of people they're in the group in and that always kept in the back of my head and our mother said whatever you do in order to change your circumstance you're gonna have to get an education and so I I kept that in the back of my head no matter what I had to educate myself I had to get a degree I the people that I saw going to the school down the street that's something I could do and I had that vision and it it through a series of circumstances it was very rough and when I was 10 years old sitting next to this boy in this classroom and he and I got into an argument and because weird two kids in the same position same location in time but our choices were different and at that moment time we got into an argument and I always had a smart mouth I always had a way to be able to push buttons because I died I didn't know the power of my words back then and now I do and now I actually embrace that at the time I was a ten year old child I was pushing buttons and he got upset and he stood up and he hit me right underneath my eye and I remember all of my entire vision going dark and hearing screams and that's when I felt the wet on my face and then I heard I'm like this out but the way I feel and I couldn't see anything and as far as it was kind of a blurred out because any time we go through traumatic experiences sometimes the brain actually just hides it mm-hmm and then I remember being brought to the hospital where the search and put five layers of stitches in my face and he said had this been any higher you would have lost your eye and I remember being kind of like shocked PR was this ten-year-old child they are not necessarily knowing what to do but the surgeon said something that I'll always remember he said I'm gonna sew your face so well that all you'll see is the line and then when you get on TV in the future all you'll see is a line if you ever want to get rid of it you can have plastic surgery but I'm gonna sew this up so well that when you get on TV in the future to tell your story that's all they'll see and here I was this tenure child listening to this and suddenly from mica being laying there getting stitches in my face I wasn't thinking about the stitches I was thinking oh god Tina is she gonna be able to do something and it was like the exciting part and later on after that my mother pulled me on at school to keep me safe and then she put me into this school completely on the other side of town and it was a gifted school gifted magnet and I was with people who were brewing they were geniuses and I was no way her near how brilliant these people were and I remember finding myself having to listen to what they were saying cuz how they said it was in different words than I used I spoke with a broken English and that was the type of environment that were in because we weren't taught the proper way of of speaking English and I even had an accent before and I remember being around these individuals and I remember just listening to their voice and thinking they're using words differently than how I use it and I studied how people spoke I was gonna say so I have a theory about the inner cities so the inner cities so I went to USC and did some big brother like work in the inner cities and really got a sense of thank you for what for sure that that's a whole another story for another day which doesn't touch what you've done but being there and seeing that you begin to get a real sense of the adversity that has to be overcome and I believe that most of the people that the inner city touches it destroys but every now and then it creates somebody extraordinary what was it that made you listen what was it that made you say I I'm going to adopt that I'm gonna learn that I'm gonna get out of this like why doesn't that happen to everybody you pose such a great question when you are expected to succeed by your mentors or parents or teachers when there is an expectation on your life to do well at an early age you adopted you address it you adhere to it you created but if you are never given that opportunity to know what you are capable of doing if you are never given that that word that encouragement missus do you know what you can be good at mathematics even though you failed algebra and geometry and calculus and chemistry which I did you can actually do well in mathematics if if there's not someone showing you your worth when you can't see it you'll forever be looking in the mirror thinking that you're not worth what you are and for me every single time I went to went at school crosstown it was like around two two hours away from where I was every time I would come back it was like a wake-up call I would go to this school that was like in a predominantly well-off area and everyone had books and and paper and really nice shoes we were looking at this thinking oh I don't have any of that and every time I would come back into my neighborhood I would see the graffiti and I'd see the the trash and I thought to myself what makes a difference why are there people here in this situation versus here in this situation and every single day out come back and it came down to this it was the thinking how we think how we look at situations whether or not we see ourselves doing well and being successful or versus if we see ourselves as a not successful person in an environment our thinking defines our life and when we can take hold of our thought and see it for what it is and change it and transform it and change it to convert it into an energy that Alisha's a brain power that allows us to change a situation that my friend is how we change our lives and that's how we change everyone else's life you know who Luther Campbell is tell me who so he was the lead singer to Live Crew's so he had a very similar situation so he grew up in South Florida I think just outside of Miami and he used to get bussed from the inner cities into a wealthy neighborhood to play football because he was good and he had a very similar experience it was interesting hearing you describe that which you didn't go into as much detail in the book about the back and forth back and forth back and forth but hearing that like that would be such a visceral reminder of the change so when I was big Brethren I used to do that I would take him to Beverly Hills to watch movies because I wanted him to see something beautiful that was like this driving thing in me I was like this it can't be all that he sees is this literal concrete jungle right like the only thing he saw going from home to school was concrete I mean there's like literally three trees and there's nothing and so just trying to get that that visual do that was that something that you've thought about in real time were you like I need to get out of this like this is going from something beautiful that I want to something that is painful that I want to get out of every place has its pros and cons really great places we'll still have a con to it really horrific places we'll have a benefit to it and it's all how we see a situation every time I was bused into that school I felt oh wow I get a chance to learn but at the same time I realized how superficial was everyone looked at each other based on what they owned versus what how what their character was and so I saw the benefit and the detriment of that situation and then when I came back home and was bused into the area immediately when I came off a bus I was like alright how do I make sure I'm not shot down this is literally what went through my head my mom used to make you guys sleep sleep feet to the the street side yeah and it sounds it when I say this now I realized that tell people why right uh when I was when I get off my bus and then I come home there was a lot of gang violence and I was very thankful to be able to get home and once we got inside the door and saw the house were like okay we're somewhat safe but there was a crack house next to our house and my mother had decided to go back to school shortly before they had moved in and she went to night school and when she found out that there was a crack house she had to drop going to night school to stay at home to keep us safe and then she put up this metal on the side of the wall and she had his sleep in the bed in certain direction and she said I'm having you sleep this ways and I'm gonna put this metal up so if a bullet comes to the wall hopefully it hit the metal first and if it pierces through the metal at least it will hit your feet and not your head and this is where we grew up and I remember making a note to myself I will do anything and everything to make sure I am NOT going to place myself in a situation like this and I'm going to get an education so I can encourage other people to be able to succeed in life and that was my decision because I know one shot to go through that but the beautiful part about going through that is no matter what type of situation I faced in the future if I could get through that I could get there anything yeah and I mean knowing your story it's like okay that was already insane to be able to get over that but going from that then you got it in in your TED talk the way that you told the story is really interesting you're like building it up and in 11th grade I finally meet this tutor and he teaches me you know how to do calculus and I'm finally getting I realize I can do it and I take the AP test and I want to tell you that I passed you go from that to like fifth in your class and graduate with a degree in mathematics when people are telling you to quit by the way like what what's going on in your mind what are the mindset pieces that you're putting together to not let people stop you to not let naysayer slow you down like what are you doing mentally oh it was a mental challenge I must tell you and and what happened was I was failing out where I felt out of her I fell geometry I failed at calculus and chemistry and there was this calculus teacher that said all right I'm gonna offer calculus tutoring for anyone who's willing to come to the campus during the winter break and I thought everyone was gonna go and I didn't even have money to go at the time and I thought this is an opportunity someone's gonna tutor me this is great and I remember specifically it costs a dollar 35 to get on the bus to get the bus there and back and I didn't even have that and I will never forget it was the gas Tynan it was like it was a local gas station it was a gas attendant he knew I was so dedicated to your school he loaned me not long he'd basically gave it because I never had a chance of hearing back right he gave me a dollar thirty five each way so I could catch the bus two hours to get to the campus and sit there and I thought everyone was gonna show up there was only myself and and I thought to myself this is such a blessing and I sat there and I picked his brain I'm like how do I look what does an what does the the tangent mean what does the instantaneous rate mean and these are all words for derivatives in calculus and I got just to sit down with them and that was the first time ever that I realized I was smart and when I sat with him uh it was amazing because I realized what was stopping me was my own fear it wasn't it wasn't anything with my educational aspect it was me thinking I couldn't do well in mathematics and when I learned to remove that fear and think I'm gonna do this no matter what's gonna happen I may feel it I may not feel it I'm gonna do well at this and I'm gonna just just see where it goes I'm gonna put my all into it and find out and I put my own my all into it and I felt but it's something inside of me shifted I realized hey family it wasn't that bad if I can if I can like spend a little bit more time at it I can actually do really well at this and that was the shift in thinking I'm like all right I'm just gonna spend some more time in it I'm gonna actually get this and I went to a Cal State Northridge and I'm very thankful that was the best school I could have gone to out for me personally and I went to Cal State Northridge and my first job that I had was a math tutoring job and I scored because I had taken calculus and I'm taking those classes over I scored relatively high on the placement test and so the job the only this is how ironic life is the only job that I got first when I was in college was a math tutoring job that's ironic I know who's in it and I remember telling the boss that hired me the late Jane mrs. Pinkerton that god bless her I told her I don't know how to stop so she says all right just sit down with him and just read the book with him I looked and I'm like are you sure and she said yeah just just sit down and read the book with them I'm like okay I mean if I get paid to do this shirt i sat down with the with the students and it was they were it was stressful too because I didn't know what a half the terminology anything was in the books and I would sit down I'm like okay I'm here - you're like well how do you do this and I I just tell him the truth I have no idea I'm gonna read the book with you it's what we literally sat and read the book together and I found myself reading the algebra books reading the geometry books reading the calculus books reading the statistics books literally reading and studying and I think a Jane Pinkerton because had she not hired me into that role I would not have graduated top five Wow out of his 6,500 graduating class it was because I sat down and worked through the students I have to when I overcome my own fear it was when I was working with someone else and recognizing that the person next to me was the exact mirror of myself and as if as I could help that person right next to me I was helping myself at the same time and it became this teamwork every single person on the campus needed mathematics and so I got a chance to know everybody on campus and became one of the most popular people because everyone needed mathematics and that confidence that was built from taking something that I failed that before and shifting my thinking about it and embracing it attacks should create a new reality for myself that's what empowered me and that's what allowed me to graduate top my class which later on open up the door to launch rockets it's incredible and we'll get to the launching rockets in a second but let's talk about neuroplasticity so one of the things that you talked about new TED talk is literally reprogramming your brain to overcome the fear to deconstruct it I think you said fear is a choice if I'm not mistaken so walk us through that why is fear choice how do we use neuroplasticity what does that look like what's the real process to make that happen oh that's such a great question and I love being on your show because you ask great questions you ask questions that hit home through a series of events I learned the power that we have in our brain when I overcame so many challenges when I was launching Rockets of being a woman and being a one a person of color in a predominantly area that was different than myself I had to I had to think differently I had to think all right I'm gonna stand out everything that I do it's gonna have to be twice as good that's just the nature of it and I had to change the way in which I was thinking in order to do that how am I going to be such a contributing force to this environment that whenever I leave I've made a difference and when I realized that and then when I couple that with the aspect of mathematics where the same type of math that we used to launch to Mars is the same type of math that we use to literally reshape our own brain I realized the power of our thoughts what you're when you say that I'll push a little bit on that so when you say that one I don't think most people know chaos series so chaos theory basically you'll check me if I'm wrong chaos theory basically states that the beginning circumstances matter a lot and so it also known as the butterfly effect right butterfly flaps its wings in Shanghai and there's a storm in Australia so now if I'm in fractals ever repeating patterns in nature which are fractals so that plays a huge part in chaos theory are you saying that that's what's happening in the brain and that's a key part of neuroplasticity yes yes a chaos theory is the study of chaos when you two things happen at the same time one will have a completely different effect than the other person or let's say let's do an example there's two twins born one twin ends up with cancer the other one ends up living an entire long life what was the difference if they had the same DNA what changes them to have two different outcomes chaos theory is like okay you could be in space you can go towards one destination but any slight change in position will completely stall your vehicle or it will throw you to Mars depending on what your movement is chaos is the type of mapping that gets you there so how do you take that into account mathematically which will make this analogy just really powerful when we have thoughts neuroplasticity self-directed neuroplasticity is the ability to change our own structure of our brain in our head by being aware how chaos theory affects our brain is that when we are aware of where we are what we're doing and more importantly for the decision that we have in front of us the choice in our thought in a situation whatever decision that we make in that full awareness that decision in itself is a fractal moment in chaos that literally changes the brain at that very moment to restructure it inside of your head so you can unleash your power so ok neurons have fire together wire together and I understand the process of myelination well enough to sort of know a little bit about the architecture of what's happening so if you're thinking a thought and you're practicing let's say which is a great example of neuroplasticity right so I'm gonna practice it over and over and over those neurons are gonna fire together continuously they're gonna literally rewire like you're talking about in sort of that chaos moment the myelination makes things travel more quickly so now I'm actually getting better meaning faster and more capable of thinking that thought what can people do on a daily basis like when you were having one of these moments I'm glad you say you start with awareness right what am I trying to do so if they know what they want to do but they don't know how to get there and they don't know how to trigger the neuroplasticity what advice do you have when you look at how are my thoughts going to align with where I want to go and you decide that moment in time where you decide this is a thought that's gonna get me to being a rocket scientist this is a thought that's gonna get me to be a doctor this is a thought to get me to be a host of my own show I'm whatever it takes I'm going to have all the type of thoughts that's going to get me closer to where I want to go in the future when we realize that we have a choice in how we think about things where we have a choice are we going to be scale heard about something are we gonna go for it no matter what's gonna happen that is when we unleash this power to hear what was the thought that you had that let you become a rocket scientist the thought was back in 1986 when Challenger exploded well uh I saw on the TV and some of the younger crowd that's looking at this if you have opportunity go to actually write about this on The Huffington Post it's one of my articles out there and Google Challenger explosion it was January 28th 1986 and all of us for young kids and we were looking on the TV I remember this - you remember that - and and it was like horrible like schools all across the entire United States was looking at the first teacher growing up into outer space and she was going with a group of astronauts and there was a series of events that happened that created the o-ring to freeze and warp and so when they lit the Rockets the solid rocket booster literally tilted and it enik it ruptured the external tank in the external tank and for the special it was like the gas ink and it punctured the gas tank with this this fire and there was just fire the entire explosion healed everyone but it didn't kill astronauts they were actually in a pressurized chamber that was supposed to withstand that type of explosion and I remember their capsule went into the to the ocean and when the capsule actually went down into it hit the ocean it cracked open like an egg and they died drowning whoa yeah yeah people don't undersell know that and when I found that all and I that was just so in shock I and Gandhi has a quote it says you must be the change that you wish to see in the world and I remember seeing that and I'm thinking shouldn't somebody have done something so that wouldn't have happened and I didn't realize that at that very moment when I looked and saw that I thought I'm gonna be a person to help prevent that and it wasn't until I think I was like how and I think it was like nine when that happened and eight or nine and then I was sitting the moment in time where I realized oh my god my dream of finger humming a rocket scientist actually came true it wasn't when I became a rocket scientist I actually didn't remember that I made that decision when I was like eight or nine like I was gonna do this until I was actually sitting my desk at work and I looked and I thought wow I'm doing a rocket science work look I was in the exact same Department to prevent the type of failures that I saw when I was nine years old it's gonna say that became your job right you were the one that had to dissect whether something was gonna blow up or not I signed engine tests they couldn't test the Space Shuttle main engine without my signature I mean that was one of the most stressful jobs I've ever taken but yet though you have to know everything you have to know every bolt you have to know every well do you have to know every single pressurized system how long of hot fire each engine has been through the ISP how is piece like the horsepower of the of the rocket and you had to know office to authorize that your signature meant nobody's life was going to be in danger because you've done all that checking yeah yeah you likened it to having to look into the future right to be able to look at a schematic and know sort of what happens in the future I found that pretty interesting I think I have a quote here about it your role was devised in a way to pick the future that would ensure flight and I really like that concept of you're picking a future right so you're you're going through this schematic you're looking at everything the bolts the the way that the Rings fit everything you kept saying nooks and crannies like you have to know every every these things and then in your mind construct a vision of the multiple ways that it could play out how does that apply to like normal life because I think that's actually very akin to what we're all doing yeah it applies 100% the key thing is that you have to put into your head exactly what it is you have to envision it before it happens and then you have to envision what you don't want to happen you have to do both it's saying that the book and I was so surprised that took a note on that because normally when you talk visualization you tell people don't think about the thing that you don't want right so the the hands follow the eyes I think is the phrasing racing so it's like wherever you look you're gonna go so if you're looking to the things you don't want you're gonna self-destruct but you were saying that you guys really had to think about how exactly does this go right and how exactly does this go wrong yeah how does that help when you see exactly what you don't want if you can take the exact opposite of that that's how you find out what you do on for example when we launched Rockets we knew okay we didn't want there to be an explosion out the jacket which was like the side of the rocket but we wanted the explosion to go down so we thought okay what is the worst-case scenario and the worst-case scenario is okay there will be a tire flames blowing out where we don't want it to go so I'm like how can we prevent that how can we focus on where we do want it to go where's the ideal part for it to go and the ideal part is for the the all the flames to go down the tubes and go through and create a plume so what we had to do in that aspect is literally envision exactly what we didn't want and figure out the chain of events that could possibly get us there to what we don't want and then go backwards the fascinating thing about that is it's not just theoretical this is actually what you did so tell us the story of Joe tell us how that helped it seemed to really be an important moment so its Alice's name and he was a man from China and I he was brilliant in is brilliant I'm still fascinated how his brain works and the beauty about working in rocket science is that I had the ability to deserve genius brands and I realized that any of us can gain a genius brain no matter what age were at it doesn't matter forget it what anyone's ever told you you can gain a smart brain at any age anyway I want to dive into that for a second because you said something really important cuz in in the math class they were telling you you're not gonna succeed you keep doing it and we don't really have time to go deep on this but your mom had a very traumatic brain injury and you said you have to decide you're gonna heal no matter what the doctors are telling you yes so yeah that that point of decision is a recurring theme with you which I find very very interesting yes decisions reshape the brain every decision that you make reshapes your brain the more powerful you are in making decision after decision after decision the more powerful your brain because that make you really careful about what decisions you make like you're you super aware when you're making decisions I've learned to become aware and I've learned to become aware to see alright this is where I want to go how is this decision going to help me get there it's always keeping that in the back of her head like this is where I'm gonna go and I'd made the decision very early in life that no matter where I was I was gonna change it I was gonna change it so I would leave my mark to be able to help in a very powerful way so people after I leave would be able to make their own mark and and build it in a way in which was going to be very powerful for their life and the reason why it's loves Al and I'm so thankful for him he took me underneath his wing and I didn't know anything about rockets at the time I knew math didn't know anything about rockets and he was overworked and he had tons of paper on his desk and he helped me understand grant my graduate school work and I would finish my work early in the one department that I was in at first and I looked at him and I did something that no corporate person ever does I said oh do you need help I'll stay after healthy I was just so fascinated with what he was doing and he became my mentor I was just I was just sitting next to him to watch how his brain worked I mean is this it was a similar thing to when I went to Weston's of those schools and and how I had to listen and and see how people were communicating they were communicating differently here that was again that that that situation was repeating in my life and here I was next to this man and all these other people who were like brilliant of what they were doing I had to observe I wasn't raised like that I had to find out how they communicated how they saw things and each time I could get in the side of their brain I understood more my brain more so as I was working with Zhao and I could get inside his brain I was looking at how he interacted with people how he handled work I'm like how does that work for him how can I tailor that for myself and that's where Zhao and I became so most helpful this is the funniest thing he had spoke with a really deep accent I mean it was like really really deep no one could understand him and I could understand him just fine and we found ourselves a team and he would introduce me other people and when he couldn't do a project he says I'm gonna recommend Olympia she can do exactly what I can do is she can help you too and we built this network and it was this connected network where we were all supporting each other so even though they were the people that were out there that were very like uh trying to push her buttons I knew I was connected I knew I had people who had my back and I had their back and we all took ownership and integrity and what we did and we always were honest with one another that's amazing and that notion of camaraderie and finding people that have your back and you have their back thinks really really important so what advice do you have to women who are contemplating going into stem if you're a woman interested in science technology engineering and mathematics do it study it learn it we need you do it I would love to have if you're a person in science technology engineering mathematics in other words stem go into it do it there is such a overwhelming need for you because you have the ability to see the big picture you have the ability not only to do the mathematics but you have the ability to see the big picture and use your communication skills in order for people to see how important concepts are so that is the gift that you bring if you have the opportunity to go into that stem do it and find me on Facebook if it let me know that you go into stem I would love to hear about it awesome yeah alright tell everybody before I ask my last question tell everybody where they can find you online uh you can find me on answers Unleashed calm and I have my own show and it has all these different tips for people to go into science and how to reshape your brain you can always find me on facebook.com slash Olympia Lapointe and there's always the main website Olympia Lapointe so you can find me in all the different ways nice alright final question what is the impact that you want to have in the world hmm the impact that I want to have on the world is to use media for people to realize that their thoughts have power I like that fantastic Olympia thank you so much for being on the show what an absolute pleasure this is such an amazing story of somebody overcoming the odds I cannot tell you how much I was inspired by this if you enjoy hearing tales of somebody that really has to put in the work overcome it reads like a Hollywood story I'm not kidding it's absolutely crazy from starting in poverty from the struggles that our mom went to but at every turn it's a story of somebody who can see the permutations of her future make the decision and always be moving forward going towards them never making excuses understanding that fear is a choice understanding that at the end of the day it comes down to you it comes down to the work that you're willing to put in and maybe most beautifully the team that you're able to gather around you by helping them also make their dreams come true it's an incredible story guys this is a weekly show so if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary take care thank you guys so much for watching and if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and for 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