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Kind: captions Language: en in today's episode of health theory with Karl Lenoir we discuss why you shouldn't listen to health experts how to actually do research for yourself the importance of looking at evolution and why Sun sex and sleep are the most important things for your health everybody welcome to health theory today's guest is Karl Lenoir he's a radio host and podcaster with millions of listeners and a burning desire to educate the world on the realities of today's food system he's a self-proclaimed physical culturalist and Crusader and he's hell-bent to use his own innate curiosities to uncover what's really going on at the cutting edge of the Health Sciences and Karl the part of your story that I love the most is that this all started for you with a bit of pain and probably a significant dollop of fear walk us through what sent you down this path when I was 39 years old I was diagnosed with the kind of unusual arrhythmia where the left side and right side of my heart was beating out of sync and I was 330 pounds and I was the average American and I was eating and eating and eating and I wasn't active I was running a business that didn't require me to be active I sat on a desk all day long and I just turned into this sick human being my ex-wife bought me the book by Deepak Chopra ageless beauty timeless mind and I couldn't tell you anything I read in that book except one passage and that was that every cell in your body turns over anywhere from six weeks to six months you know bone slower tissue faster and I thought if this is true how do I best put myself in a position for those new cells to be healthy as opposed to the sick ones that are in my heart and I started to read PubMed I found PubMed like a lot of people I thought you know what I'm gonna read the research and what I discovered was that weight lifters had the greatest remodeling effect of cardiac tissue and I thought remodeling that's what I need you know you remodel a house when it's all beat up so I'm gonna remodel my heart and so I started weightlifting specifically and I changed my diet and as I lost weight I got better I ended up not needing the medications I was on them for a short time and then my doctor agreed to wean them off of me off of them and I discovered that Wow like you don't have to get sick and if you get sick you can actually do things to fix yourself this was a novel idea I thought you know only doctors could do that for you in hospitals and stuff like that have you read the book change or die no I haven't so the punchline of the book change or die is that when given the choice hey you have a heart condition and if you don't change you're going to die it's some absurd percentile remember the exact percent but call it north of 80 it might be north of 90 even if all they have to do is take one pill a day they fail to comply and I just thought how is that possible so what is it about you that makes you so capable to hear that message because not only did you say I'm gonna change and then put in the work and lose 100 pounds you had the more fascinating journey of immediately having distrust for the medical establishment and even having to do that work on your own so you first had to figure out what to do right and then actually do it so what is it in your upbringing or just the way that you think that made that possible for you and I gotta tell you I think part of it is my generation I think we baby boomers we were part of the the the dropout you know generation we didn't trust the man we didn't trust organized groups that seemed to try to apply authoritative opinions over on us my father died of polypharmacy he died from taking all the medications they destroyed his liver and his kidneys and he died me when my doctor told me something I thought oh I don't know if that's true I think I want to go find out so just that nuance that I didn't take what the authority said to me as docile and followed it is is is probably a hallmark of baby boomers I also felt like I was very depressed I didn't want it I wasn't ready to die I wasn't willing to accept go quietly oh this is part of Aging I was like no it's not part of my aging this isn't how I end my story and so I think that those two things combined gave me the courage to seek other information but then I had to sort through the information and pick what was good and what wasn't how sort of early in the internet was this yeah it's that was really brand new I mean really really brand new so like 98 Wow so then you have an unnatural ability to do research walk us through what what's your process like how did you find PubMed now it'd be easy you go and you just drop it in a search box but back then it wasn't that simple back then they weren't really like websites right there was a message board for doctors and I lied and said I was a doctor and then once I got in there that's when I was able to start digging around and asking people for research and stuff and getting it sent to me actually emailed to me and that started it and then slowly but surely the internet became a lot easier to manage and and doing research on your own became more possible because there were more people actually putting their databases out there so whenever you encounter a new idea I'll go start with YouTube videos and I'll just drop in the search term to see what comes up I try to learn the lexicon then I find the experts and then I read in swarms meaning I read a bunch of books from different people on one topic what is your process look like when it's something brand new you just like heard something oh that's interesting okay so the way I do things now after 13 years of interviewing some of the most brilliant people in in individual spaces is I apply critical thinking first and the first element of my critical thinking is evolution so I can tell you look you call this show health theory that's brilliant and here's why because everything going forward is a guess right but everything behind us isn't a guess so we don't pay attention to 1.8 million years of the selection pressure that mold us into what we are today but we put all of our faith in science du jour so the first thing I do is I look at things and say why would evolution have endowed us with that we have one job and that is to keep proliferation of the species that's it we talk about reproductive fitness reproductive fitness holds you together and well until you pass the reproductive ages then you fall apart because you should have done your job by then so I apply evolutionary edicts to everything that I look at and I go does this hold true would evolution have endowed us with this and if I can't answer that question without saying yeah I can see why this would be a value to us then I immediately discount let like for instance right now we have a keto craze going on from an evolutionary perspective ketosis would have served us only during starvation so when people tell me oh the way to eat all the time is keto I go absolutely not 1.8 million years have proven that but if you don't believe it look at look at the research being done right now on hunter-gatherer civilizations that are still intact now when I talk about ketosis that's what I have from millimole because most of us wake up in the morning with half a mil amol of ketones I'm talking about this absurdity of shooting for two and three millimoles of ketosis unless you're battling brain cancer all right this is actually not a good idea because it actually shifts mRNA and DNA to think that you're in a starvation State if you're eating 90% fat all the time your body thinks wow this person sucks at finding food so we need to put this body in like in DEFCON 4 mode because this idiots gonna die so will it shut down the thyroid let's do all these things to preserve until we can get out of this Jam we're in and proof of that is if if if two people are into keto husband and wife and they're both it they're posting their keto pictures on 1.2 millimoles if my wife is 2.6 and they and she gets pregnant that baby will be imprinted with obesity genes because that baby is being formed under the guise from an evolutionary perspective that mom and dad suck at finding food so we have to make this baby so efficient that it turns everything into fat and this has been proven when I look at these things I look at them from evolution I say okay where would ketosis have really come ok famine it would have got us through the famine would it because we're metabolically flexible I look at everything that way first why is this important why would we be endowed with it where did it come from and then I do my research from there that's really really interesting I think that's super smart all right so you start with that evolutionary lens I think that's insanely powerful as a backstop of does this make sense then what do you do the next thing is that you cannot have an agenda when you're reading research many people whether they realize it or not are coming to find something to support their opinion and you can't have an agenda you have to accept the good with the bed because if you're truly in search of the truth an agenda could skew the way you look at things so I would say the most powerful thing that you could have when you're doing research of this type is not to come with an agenda or if you do have an agenda acknowledge it so that you can then discount it when you feel giddy about filing this study all are good like let me see if I can find the study that contradicts this and be open to the fact that you want the truth you don't want to be right that's really good that's really good yeah I totally agree with that so once you have that and you've got your sort of bias each X in place you've got your critical thinking how do you know what experts to listen to and which to ignore and I ask that in the context of in this arena even on this show you'll get people that are like key toes amazing live there forever and then Quito is like only four famines cycle in cycle out so people get lost so what I love is that you're somebody who forms their own opinion and tells people to do the same now I'm saying how do people like how do they know whether to listen to you or somebody else or somebody else I say don't listen to me or somebody else I say that you have to make the decision for you we're all very unique because of our individual evolutionary journeys and so where somebody can eat a food that they thrive on maybe I can't information is overwhelming today and people don't know what to do and they absolutely become numb after a while like I can't eat this I can't eat that like what the hell can I do I say to people go back a few hundred years where did your people come from what foods were indigenously available and and enduring what seasons and start there to build your foundation of what you do well with but I think that the reality is that you can't just take anything anyone says and hit your wagon to it you've got to you've got to let it ruminate in your head and you've got to think about it and you've got to keep challenging it because there's so much information out there today and so much of it is wrong it's scary I mean I fall prey to this when I'm reading studies and I think to myself this just doesn't sound right like I I need to dig deeper and then I find out oh I can see why they have this opinion people are protecting their own little fiefdom by you know sticking to their to their guns when they really should change your opinion and move forward you talked about individuality which is something that I'm really obsessed with so any longtime listener of this show knows so lisa had has digestive issues it used to be catastrophic I think she's getting it way in line now but we've really had to ask not work what works for other people but what works for Lisa it has to be an N equals one experiment what works for somebody doesn't necessarily work for you and the only way to know if it's working fuse are you getting better the problem is it takes a long time to get better because by the time you've got symptoms you could be two years down that rabbit hole and and this is where the pharmaceutical industry thrives because we want we want to feel better now we want it now like I give me something doctor I don't like the way I feel well you may need to be patient and do one thing for two or three weeks and see if that's working and quite frankly if it gets worse feel good because you're on the right path you're just going the wrong way that's I like that so so if you get something that makes you sicker go oh man like if I eat a lot of fiber I wake up in the morning with brain fog really yeah because because fiber is supposed to be fermented in the large intestine right yeah if the fiber is is being fermented in the small intestine then you're getting bloated after a meal because it's fermenting here and not down there you're not farting it out you're burping it back on right that's the first sign that you've got microbes and and stuff inside your small intestine when you start to see these foods making you feel that way it's time for you to say stop my mother used to say if you're lost don't run because you could be running in the wrong direction it's good advice so when you feel like I don't understand but why it when I eat pizza I just get so bloated okay first thing don't eat pizza now what else makes you bloated get those things out of your diet if you're one of these people has a distended stomach you belch all the time you wake up you haven't eaten in 12 hours you're burping in the morning you have small intestinal bacterial overgrowth in fact I predict that 76% of the population has SIBO today that is very specific yeah why 76 76 percent of the people in the United States claim that they have a gut problem they're bloated that gassy certain foods don't agree with them most of the time it's starches and sugars and and digestion we just resistant starches that don't agree with them because they're being metabolized in the small intestine where they shouldn't be now I want to go back really thinking about that number that's terrifying that 76% report having gut issues that's pure insanity so okay the solution there is you may need a very specific antibiotic but it's only it's always going to be diet it's always gonna be all right well then what cuz I'm so terrified of antibiotics I will tell you because I think that's almost certainly what caused Lisa's problem so walk me through non-antibiotic things to try from a supplement standpoint great fruit seed extract there's a free fatty acid and I'm gonna get the name wrong but it's thoughts with the you it's like it's like you cyclic acid they they permeate the microbes cell wall they make it burst the other thing is like coconut oil I know everybody's like Oh coconut I'm not saying pound it down but on an empty stomach first thing in the morning a teaspoon full of coconut oil because coconut oil helps to destroy those microbes the reason the small intestine becomes inhabited in the first place is because the acid level in your stomach is becoming too neutral you need to drop the pH to make it more acidic because if the acidity in the small intestine was appropriate they would never live there they have they would only live when they got to the large intestine so clearly you have an issue with your small intestine and the acidity level so by you know a lot of people will say I got better when I started taking apple cider vinegar three times yeah because that apple cider vinegar is washing down into the small intestine 8 it's killing that bacteria that shouldn't be there in the first place and so those kind of things work very well diet works really well starve them starve them if they what they want starches don't eat starches now I'm not saying B can o eat vegetables be sensibly broccoli eat spinach you know don't eat ninety percent fat and say oh that's working yeah it'll work but you have it you're gonna have other problems but but just stay away from the pasta and the pizza and the bread and the white potatoes and really even yams just stay away from arches for a while a good six months and you'll find out your stomach is less distended if you look at the number of people today that stomachs pop out underneath their chest and tuck back in at their pelvis you think yourself what is it it's gas it's the small intestine has become a fermenting Factory and you're loaded with gas and when you have gas constantly it's pushing up against the esophageal sphincter and finally it breaches it and it blows some stomach acid up some stomach acid up some stomach acid up and these people inevitably are always better belching and burping and they're always bloated and they got distended stomachs if we can get that under control they get better and let's remember something this is the immune system this what do you mean this the gosh right it is the immune system I mean we now know that that Parkinson's disease starts in the stomach we now know that that intraocular pressure glaucoma starts in the stomach it's an autoimmune disease everybody's got autoimmune diseases today we can all agree that inflammation is the root of all disease today right we've been saying that for what a decade now well inflammation is what the immune system does that's how it mounts an attack on something that's how but there's a foreign something in your body it sends out macrophages it sends out inflammatory responses to go in and to destroy that and kill it if you workout that's your immune system making you recover you have inflammation and it goes that it resolves the inflammation that well that's all coming from here when when when your gut is bad your body is bad and you you were more prone to developing a widespread group of diseases so what do you know about fecal transplant my mother had one when she was in the really oh my god tell me why I asked for it so my mother got a real bad case of c-diff whoa and she had really bad diarrhea and she was like they were saying like we can't keep her hydrated she's gonna die and my niece Kelly because if it's best if it's from a family member sir when and donated a little poop and they they inserted it in my mom and she lived she got better that's insane now I need to know how much she got better like what are we talking here like slightly with 80s and she was like on death's door and she didn't die for another four or five years I think it was wow that's uh that's really incredible what I find really distressing about gut issues is how hard it is to rebalance and so I was you know to your point about just sort of processor at a critical thinking level I was thinking through ok why would that be so that it's really hard to just take a probiotic and hope that it you know rebalances but I'm guessing this is how somebody tried a fecal transplant the first time obliterate through antibiotics so that you're starting from scratch yes and then repopulate cuz I was I literally had the thought could I be read like vaginally swab like if you're so a child is born with no immune system it gets it through the vaginal birth and that they swallow it and it gets crazy and then I thought but that you can't do that as an adult so why and then that led me down that I've ever known I've had exactly that same train of thought you know I've asked scientists that I've interviewed like I kill my lawn and reseed why can't I do that with my gut and they all agree you can but the problem is that the vast number of microbes you've picked up in your life can't be replaced by something in a capsule our gut is kind of like the universe like we know where the planets are right but we really don't know everything about the universe there is to know every day they're discovering new microbes that inhabit our gut and the things that they impart upon us so you'd have you'd have a very monolithic microbiome if you had to use what we have available to us but you're absolutely right the reality is that you if you if you kind of take a scorched-earth approach and kill everything you could receive then but you'd have to have everything right in the receiving and we just don't know enough about it yet this also sounds like a pretty dangerous process to do the obliteration first all right on a totally different topic talk to me about your routines I know the you use a lot of supplementation you're very vocal about the things that you've used or tried what are some things that are just an absolute standard part of your day I have the 3 s's the most important evolutionary edicts that if you practice these regularly you will live a long healthy life and there the 3 s's Sun sex and sleep okay the Sun will make you want to have more sex the Sun will improve the quality of your sleep if you'll get out there getting Sun all day long if you do those three things regularly you will live longer you won't get prostate cancer there's evidence that women who have sex more often and their partner actually ejaculates in them don't get fibroids they don't get uterine cancer I mean guys who have more more orgasms are protected against prostate cancer i when you when you do the things that evolution put you here to do which is be in the Sun have sex and sleep well you that that's 90 percent of the job right there I use Milano 10 to 25 micrograms a day because the what we attribute the Sun to doing for us is vitamin D vitamin D vitamin D so they get that because of epidemiological studies show that people who live closer to the equator don't get heart disease they don't get this they don't get cancer don't get it so we just say oh it's it's the Sun it's vitamin D but a lot of research has led us down it's like vitamin D doesn't play out when you supplement it it doesn't seem to confer those same benefits well the most overlooked thing about your skin is something called the Milano Courtin system it produces five different hormones and every cell in your body has a Milano Courtin receptor on it and the Milano Courtin system is responsible for libido that's a big one because anything that improves libido you're getting healthier because that's that's evolutionary edict number one have lots of sex and lots of children before you die and the really the rest of it is diet and sleep it really is I do everything I can to protect and improve the quality of my sleep and I'm I'm almost militant about my diet but I come to the conclusion that in order to be healthy today you almost have to be militant about it because there's so many people pulling on you oh come on come on you can have pizza come on you can go out and have a few drinks come on and I almost think that they want me to do it not because they think I'm missing out but then it kind of makes them feel less guilty for what they're dead of course you know so alright let's go deep into those the 3 s's that's really strong so how much Sun are you getting I lay in the Sun as often as possible sometimes just for 20 or 30 minutes when we we talk about Sun everybody thinks it's a it's got to be like Tahiti weather no the Sun coming through the clouds confers a benefit and I always get out there and take my shirt off I just make sure that I get that light on me and then of course I use Milano 10 to to fill in for when the Sun isn't there for months at a time ok so how do you protect your sleep well first of all in order to manage it you have to measure it get some sort of a nap I'll use a product called sleep cycle and if you use it with like a Fitbit you can actually see how low your heart Ramin my hope my heart rate goes down to 40 beats per minute and in deep slump I mean that when I the first time I saw that I was shocked and so once you get one of these sleep apps and you see how you're sleeping then you can start to do things that improve sleep I'm a big believer in any type of blue blocking glasses late at night usually about 7 p.m. don't eat three hours before bedtime that's a big one dr. Dale bredesen who just did some groundbreaking studies here at UCLA and which led to the book the end of Alzheimer's he is responsible for telling people who have Alzheimer's disease to have three hour window between their last meal and when they go to bed and that helped a lot resolving brain inflammation yeah yes do you know the mechanism behind that yeah autarky explain for people what oh - oh geez okay well so so let me let me back up if your body is playing host to digesting food mmm the factory is open you're not sleeping well it's busy it's doing things right if the food is past the initial digestive phases and moving into the small intestine and soon the large intestine which is what happens within that three hour window right your body is now on coasts it's not working as hard you could get into deep sleep in fact if I have a meal late at night for whatever reason you know I'm being sociable and I go to sleep an hour and a half I don't get it to the deep sleep that I normally do and you see that as you're tracking it in fact my heart rate never goes down into the 40s it stays up high all my pals really interesting well this leads to the heart attacks you know all the people who are not in good shape they have big meals they go to bed they die in their sleep because your heart needs that rest at night it needs to like slow the hell down and if you have food the factory is open the heart is moving stuff around it can't slow down so the other thing is that the cellular waste management system is otology and this is when organelles go around the cells and clean up metabolic debris and turn them into things that can be you know carried out of the body tonfa G shuts off when your body's digesting food or kapha G is ramped up when you're fasting it's like they did a study that showed that during fasting the autopsy and the brain stuff to clean up the plaque that accumulates in some of these neurological disorders Parkinson's and Alzheimer's so that doesn't happen if you're eating before bed another secret that I found is as you get older blood sugar management seems to become more of a challenge for the body if you're one of these people who wakes up at 2:00 a.m. in the morning all the time 99% of the time if you had a glucometer and check your blood you'd find out that you just went into a hypoglycemic state the blood dropped really low the brain goes oh [ __ ] I I need sugar and so what the brain does is it wakes up the adrenal said hey get me you know and you have to wake up for the adrenals to do their job so if you one of these people who wakes up at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning all the time 3 to 5 grams of an amino acid called light a glycine GL Y CIN a if you take glycine right before bed you'll sleep all night why because glycine is a glue code genic amino acid it can convert to glucose through gluconeogenesis but it doesn't do it quickly it won't kick you out of ketosis if you're one of these people who wants to stay in ketosis it'll only do it on demand and it'll only raise blood sugar enough to keep you sleeping it won't send you into a spike like you just had a meal if you take 3 to 5 grams of glycine before bed you'll sleep all night you'll go oh my god I can't believe it that was the answer who's because you're going into hypoglycemia at night and obviously if you snore I don't care if you have obstructive sleep apnea or not snoring is not normal okay if you're breathing through your mouth at night that's not good okay good there there is there are nerve bundles in your nostrils that go right to the brain to give it immediate information like oh we're not getting enough air what to do if you're breathing through your mouth you bypass that entirely the brain really has no real knowledge of how much nitric oxide is coming in or blood but managing oxygen and carbon dioxide if you're not breathing through your nose you won't get into deep sleep so I'm a huge proponent of taping your mouth shut if you or somebody who your partner says you snore but it's not bad and you don't have a deviated septum or something to worry about like you're gonna smother if you tape your mouth shut or you are a full-blown snorer start taping your mouth shut just get surgical tape put a couple strip you got to shave because it won't stick otherwise put a couple of strips across your mouth and try sleeping you'll find out that once you get past the fear of sleeping with your mouth taped you sleep so much deeper think about it babies right young kids they fall asleep on picket fences right as we get older it's like sleep becomes more elusive it's like man I just wish I could get a good night's sleep I wish I could wake up and feel good in the morning so sleep is a big big big one yeah I love that you posted on your instagram something that stopped me dead in my tracks I loved it so much and it was I just turned 60 the best is in front of me what do you mean by that I'm so much wiser now like even when I look at the show and the way I approach the show and the things that I've learned but also I'm a lot more willing I'm a lot more willing to be vulnerable now you know I grew up in an environment where vulnerability was equated to weakness we used to have a saying oh he took kindness for weakness you did something nice for somebody and then they were gonna try to screw you because they thought that you were easy to screw and so I grew up in an environment where you you weren't kind to people and people respected fear watching my father passed away that was a game changer for me I know no man who recognizes his own mortality until his father passes away it just doesn't work otherwise I watched my father in that bed and I saw myself I thought holy [ __ ] that's gonna be me I'm not ready for that and that opened up my ability to be more vulnerable because I felt like you know what I just don't want to be that guy anymore I don't want to be hard I don't want to be angry I want to be more forgiving I want to be more loving I'm a firm believer that you cannot live until you have addressed your own death I'm a huge believer of that right we're all on this cook we're all in this car ride right we're starting on the East Coast we're heading to the west coast we don't want to talk about the fact that we're gonna be in California eventually we're driving and driving it's like hey where we going ha ha I don't want to talk about that that's how we treat death like we're all gonna die why not make peace with it and all of a sudden you look at the things that you must do in your life and the rest of the stuff is just minutia and I think that I've recognized my own death I realize I'm gonna die I don't want to die soon I have longevity in my genes but I've actually sat and imagined so what am I gonna do when I'm on that bed and I know this is it and I call it snow day when I die I want it to be like snow day when I had young kids and it snowed nobody expected me to go to work but expect me to take the kids to school know it's snow day we're gonna stay home we're gonna eat pizza we're gonna watch television gonna have fun because nobody expects me to do anything that's how you should feel about your life when you're ready to die you shouldn't feel like I need more time I didn't do this I didn't do that and the only way that you can figure that [ __ ] out is to sit down and think about what's it gonna feel like when I'm dying like when I this is it time is out I there's nothing else that I can do what am I gonna feel like and then all of a sudden it crystallizes the really important things that are in your life and you can be more focused on those things I absolutely love that that was amazing before I asked my last question tell these guys where they can find you online superhuman radio dotnet superhuman radio dotnet we have great articles and shows I do four shows a week it's a lot so no problem all right what if people could change one thing what would you have them change for the biggest impact on their health you know that really is a tie it is diet and it's sleep it's those two things that that's the wheelhouse for optimal health it really is I mean when it comes down to health the things that either erode health or support it is what you put in your mouth and how well you sleep that's really it you should eat a diet that's appropriate for the human condition that's that's not something that's subject to to deviate from now you can live a long time and eat crap food yeah sure but your life is your health span is it gonna match your life span but I would say I would say for sure diet and sleep but n sex sex is really big I know it sounds corny but it's the evolutionary edict it's the one reason you're on this planet and the more you do it the more your body will reward you the 3 s's there you go Sun sex and sleep works for me Carl thank you so much for coming thanks for having me man I was a pleasure guys I've known this man for years and I'm telling you he is a wealth of information but the thing that I want you to pay most close attention to is the way that he doesn't just take information at face value he wants to understand it and I'd love I was not actually expecting the answer he gave me when I was asking about research but it really tells you who he is and that is to start with that backstop of just critical thinking of understanding the process by which you're going to think through this so that you can identify what works and what doesn't what's real that you can begin to understand who's an authority you should pay attention to and who's somebody that you should ignore and taking ownership of your own health and going out and exploring being inquisitive having fun with it I think that is one of the most like amazing things you're gonna take away from his content his radio show is absolutely incredible he brings on a wide swath of the world to talk about a wide range of topics all related to all of the things around physical culture it's an amazing show that has been around longer than just about anybody else I think 13 years it's absolutely insane and you can imagine how good you get at something after doing it for the ten years it's really really extraordinary trust me if you dive in his world you would be richly rewarded rewarded all right if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary take care thank you guys so much for watching and being a part of this community if you haven't already be sure to subscribe you're gonna get weekly videos on building a growth mindset cultivating grit and unlocking your full potential