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If you're holding a smartphone today,
you have access to more computing power
and [music] more information than the
president of the United States did 20
years ago. Think about that for a
moment, right? So [music] with that, the
concept of career becomes slightly
outdated because anyone today can learn
how to earn an income online if they
have the right dedication and the right
skill set. [applause]
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Everybody, welcome to Impact Theory. Our
goal with this show and company is to
introduce you to the people and ideas
that will help you actually execute on
your dreams. All right, today's guest is
one of the most impactful educators and
entrepreneurs of our generation. With
$700 and a beat up laptop, he launched
what would become Mind Valley, one of
the most successful edg companies on the
planet. With a global user base of over
three million people, between his online
courses and his real world university,
Mine Valley U, he is directly taking on
traditional education and hoping to
create the biggest shift in human
consciousness in a single generation.
And he is well on his way. Starting from
scratch, he built a global empire
comprised of some 300 employees from
countless countries all over the world
and created such powerful tools as
Ombvana, which has been the highest
grossing health and fitness app on the
iTunes store in more than 30 countries.
Dormio, which is one of the most
downloaded health and fitness apps in
the US, and Mind Valley Quests, which is
revolutionizing at home education. He
takes a no BS approach to what it would
take to really thrive in today's world.
And as such, his innovative curriculum
curates radically new ideas from the
greatest teachers around the world. Even
at a quick glance, it's easy to see he's
assembled what is arguably the most
diverse and wellrespected group of
instructors anywhere. He's also a
hyperactive philanthropist who's on the
innovation board of the X-P prize, was
named to the transformational leadership
council, and through his project
renaissance is aiming to make his home
of Koala Lumpur one of the top 20 cities
in the world to launch a startup. So,
please help me in welcoming the New York
Times and Amazon best-selling author of
The Code of the Extraordinary Mind,
Vision Lakani.
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How you doing, man?
Hey, Tom.
So glad to be back on the show. This is
so exciting.
Glad to have you here. It's always fun a
to have a guest back. I really enjoy
because we get to go and cover new stuff
and go a little bit deeper than we went
last time, but then b just we actually
know each other. So, it's nice to like
see how the more things I learned about
you, we're able to talk about that on
the show.
Likewise, man. And congratulations on
the massive growth of the show. I mean,
you've got an incredible fan base. And,
uh, I always tell people like if there's
one thing they need to do on YouTube,
uh, one channel they should really
subscribe to to really get mind-blowing
educational content, it's impact theory.
Wow. That means a lot from the master of
modern education. So, thank you very
much. That's very kind. Speaking of
education and this actually isn't a
setup though no one is going to believe
that we did not rehearse that before we
came on. Tell me about this new concept
that you have of transformational
education.
Transformational education to me is the
most important type of education. The
single most type of educ important type
of education you want to invest in for
yourself and that you want to put your
children through. So first let me define
what that is. Right.
Transformational education covers the
education that many of our institutions
forgot to teach us. It's about wisdom.
It's about mindfulness. It's about
taking care of your body, your mind,
your health, your emotional states. It's
about being a more conscious parent,
being a more conscious lover. It's about
how to deal with those days when you
might wake up one day feeling depressed
or sad. And how do you deal with that?
Schools don't teach us that stuff. And
here's why transformation education is
so important. If you think about the
human experience, what really matters is
not so much your grades or the job that
you have. All of these are means goals.
They are a means to an end, right? But
if you asked a human being to to share
with you the moments in life that
they're most grateful for. All of those
mo moments often deal with inner states.
It's falling in love. It's carrying your
first child in your arm. It's it's the
joy of like accomplishing your first big
win. And all of these all of these are
states of happiness, states of joy,
states of human connectivity.
Transformational education shows you how
to get there faster without the
[ __ ] without the dogma, without the
unnecessary toiling towards a degree and
then that job that society says you need
and then that that career path, then
breaking yourself, working 9 to5 on
something you hate. And the reason it's
so important is because the world is
changing at an exponential rate. Um I
was having dinner in uh Palo Alto a
couple of years ago and we were at this
this big event. It was an X-prise event
and you're familiar with X-Prise and all
of a sudden this dude sits in front of
me and this guy happens to be the Ray
Kurszswale, right? Google's VP of
technology, one of the the most the most
brilliant minds in technology. So we
start talking and he starts talking
about artificial intelligence and where
the world is going and he shares with me
these mind-blowing things. He says by
2029 on your smartphone we will have the
equivalent of Iron Man's Jarvis. So so
but you're a comic book geek obviously
but for those who aren't comic book
geeks I'm sure you've seen Iron Man and
Iron Man Tony Stark he shows up at a
skyscraper in New York and there's this
robot this AI that basically runs
everything. Not a human being in sight,
just a robot running everything. And he
calls it Jarvis, right? Because if you
have an AI running your life, you you
probably want to name it after a fancy
British butler. So Ray Kurszwell says
that by 2029 on our smartphone, all of
us will have the equivalent of
personalized artificial intelligence.
You can call it anything you want. Rose,
Jarvis, Nancy, whatever. But this AI
will be able to run your life for you.
All the knowledge that we are currently
learning in school will be in our
extended brain. And so what then should
we be studying? Because history,
geography, everything is going to be on
our personalized AI. So the most
important thing to teach people is
transformation. It's to teach people how
to expand their world views, to teach
people how to know how to take care of
their health, how to stay healthy, how
to how to practice longevity practices,
how to go within when they are feeling
sad, how to practice meditation and
mindfulness. This is the most important
education and it's a massively growing
field and what we are trying to do is
bring order to it and bring together
some cutting edge tech and some really
remarkable teachers and make this form
of education blow up across the world.
We we're going to get it into every
company in the Fortune 500 and our goal
is to get it into a 100 national
schooling systems.
I love it, dude. And it's a huge goal
and I know that you're talking openly
now about affecting a billion people,
giving yourself 20 years to pull it off
and having this huge shift in
consciousness. I love that. Um, now I
want to go a level deeper. Let's start
breaking some of those down, some of the
topics and really get into what are just
some key points that people can take
away with and really rock. So, um, I've
heard you talk in the past where you
just start with the diet and exercise
basically. So, I'm assuming, by the way,
that transformational um education is
really the core curriculum of Mind
Valley U.
It is the it's the only thing we talk
about at Mind Valley U.
All right. So, I know that you're not
the teacher, but what are some of the
key things that sound really
interesting, the psychology and um
you're using technology? I actually
don't know what you guys are doing
there. Um so, how are you bringing those
two together? What does that curriculum
look like? Just like a couple bullet
points on it. Well, so we look we look
at the human being from five different
verticals. Okay. The first vertical is
mind and spirit. And so and and by the
way, this is a really good matrix to
view your life. The first vertical is
mind and spirit. What practices do you
have in place to truly go within to tap
into your intuition to practice
mindfulness and meditation? And this is
becoming increasingly important. There's
a book that just came out called Altered
Traits. And there's this mind-blowing
graph in that book. And that graph shows
how research on meditation is going
through an exponential curve. Now what
this means is that there there have been
almost far more studies on the health
benefits of meditation in the last 5
years than there were in the last 30
years. And so we're stumbling upon
something really powerful here. And as a
result, according to this book, 44% of
the Fortune 100 this year will have
meditation programs for their employees.
So that's one huge pillar. While we're
there, so do you know what kind of or
maybe what's the most effective
meditation practice that you guys have?
Like what is So if somebody watching
right now wants a few takeaways that
they can start and like literally finish
the video and start doing, right?
Um what are some key things? Because I I
would love to hit all five. It's always
I know it's so hard in view when you're
like I have five and oh god are we on
three. [laughter] So I'll try not to
[ __ ] you up too much with that but okay.
So number one meditation. like what are
some key things that either you're
seeing being done in the Fortune 500 or
that you guys do like what what's having
that big impact exactly.
So, so the big thing the big thing to
understand is that in western
civilization we we are trained to exist
in what what you could call a monopasic
state of awareness. Right? Which means
we think of consciousness as primarily
existing in the beta or the waking
state. So you and I are conscious right
now. Uh and we are existing in one
particular level of consciousness. But
if you look at indigenous cultures,
people in indigenous cultures, they they
operate in multiple levels of
consciousness. For example, I spent some
time with a tribe called the Achua in
the Amazon rainforest. And the Acha,
they have this weird ritual at 4:00 a.m.
The families get up and they come
together around a campfire and they
drink tea at 4:00 a.m. and they discuss
their dreams. See the Awa believe and
they communicate with tribes across the
rainforest through their dreams. They
believe that the dream world is as real
as our physical world right now. Now
that is tapping into a different state
of consciousness. Now whether that's
true or not doesn't matter. The point is
they believe that there are multiple or
polyphasic states of consciousness. So
meditation actually gets you to go away
from a single state and tap into altered
states. And there's a powerful thing
that's happening as people are studying
meditation, as people are studying
mindfulness, what scientists are
discovering is that it has this
incredible impact on almost every
dimension of your life. If you just go
to Google News and type in meditation
study, you'll see thousands upon
thousands of results. Everything from
improving skin to improving eyesight to
improving um um your performance on
intelligence test to improving your
heart health. And nobody truly
understands why it works, but we know it
does work. I remember seeing you speak
on stage at Afest and correct me if I'm
wrong, but you mentioned something
called thinkification, right?
Thinkitation. Yeah.
Thinkitation, right? And and and tell
tell us what you're doing when you do
when you thinkate.
So for me, um I use a very basic
meditation practice, which is something
I want to get back to with yours is what
you tell people to do. But I do box
breathing. I found that doing four equal
sides does not work for me. It makes me
feel out of breath. So, I've just
adjusted it to suit what's pleasurable
for me.
Uh, it takes me into an alpha wave
state. If I'm stressed, maybe it takes
me 20 minutes to get there. If I'm
already relaxed, maybe it takes me three
or four minutes. Uh, once I'm in an
alpha wave state, which is typically
classified as being calm and creative,
which is exactly how I feel. I feel wide
awake, feel really sharp. Um, I'm
breathing. I do breathe in through my
nose, out through my mouth. um I get
into that alpha wave state where I feel
like um ideas either from my
subconscious or just normally
disconnected regions of my brain begin
cross talking right so I get very
creative solutions to a problem that
maybe the night before completely eluded
me um the reason I call it thinkation is
in meditation you're not supposed to
grab on to your thoughts which I
actually found frustrating and so it was
causing me a problem in meditation so I
thought well what if I just promise
myself that once I get into that state,
then I can grab my computer, put it on
my lap, continue my breathing cycle to
stay in that alpha wave state. But if an
idea comes that's interesting, I will
grab I don't think of it as grabbing it
to be honest. I think about as riding a
wave. And so I'll write it, really
follow it, see where it goes, take
notes, write it down, try to get back on
the wave or catch a different one. Um,
and probably 80% of the good ideas that
I have in the business come from
thinkating.
That's incredible, right? 80% of your
ideas are coming when you're accessing
these states. Now, that's what I'm
talking about. You're accessing an
altered state of consciousness. Now,
scientists can measure that. If we
hooked up Tom's brain to an EEG machine,
what they would see is that you're
probably going into you're probably
going to see an increase in alpha waves
and an increase in theta waves. Um, what
science is finding is that alpha waves,
which is what emerges from your brain
when you are relaxed, right,
is is very soothing. It's very relaxing.
And if you continue relaxing more, you
get into what is sometimes called waking
theta. Theta is the state your brain is
in every night just before you fall
asleep. When you fall asleep, you go
into a deeper state called delta. But
here's the unique thing. When you're at
theta, ideas flow. In fact, there's this
legendary story of Thomas Edison where,
and maybe you've heard this, he would he
would practice this napping technique
where he would hold a metal ball in his
hand and there'll be a metal tray below
his desk. And he'd sit in his chair like
this and drift off to sleep. And just as
he goes into sleep, his hand would drop.
a ball would clang on the tray waking
him up and he'd have his ideas. Now,
what was he doing? He was dipping into
theta to pull out ideas. In fact,
there's this this quote by Edison which
says this, "Ideas come from space." It's
hard to believe, but it's true. Ideas
come from out of space. Now, isn't that
similar to what you're doing? You're
you're using your own language, but
you're dipping into theta to pull out
ideas. And you just said it. 80% of your
business ideas are coming from the
state. That that is what I want more
people to understand. We can tap into
these altered states to fundamentally
make better decisions to draw upon ideas
and to even increase our rate of getting
towards our ideas. So this is one of the
most powerful aspects of meditation. But
you also said something else which which
I want to pick up on which is the reason
more people don't meditate. You said you
said something along the lines of I know
in meditation you're not supposed to
latch on to any thought, right?
Yeah.
That's rubbish. That's completely not
true. See, there are different types of
meditation. In fact, there are so many
different types of meditation. I hate
using the word meditation. Rather, I
call it a transcendent practice. A
transcendent practice is any practice
where you you go out of the physical
world and you go within. So meditation,
breathing in and out, box breathing is a
transcendent practice. But closing your
eyes and just being grateful for your
life is a transcendent practice. Closing
your eyes and thinking compassionately
about someone you love is a transcendent
practice. And thinkation is a
transcendent practice. You're going
within. And then there's modern
meditation which is about becoming
better at the world. Meditation is not
about becoming better at meditation.
It's about becoming better at
functioning in the modern world. And so
when you understand that transcendent
practices are these beautiful things we
can tap into to get better at life, you
see meditation in a completely different
way. Meditation helps you bend reality.
There is a myth out there in the world
that I call the hustle myth. It says
that it's about hard work, that it's
about working harder than the
competition. It's about busting your
back for a 100 hours a week. I call
[ __ ] on that because I also see
people who take who focus on themselves
first who have a steady meditation
practice who learn how to tap into
intuition and then how to visualize
their goals and they work significantly
less but get far better results. You can
hustle or you can surrender into your
inner space. And I'm a big fan of
surrendering into your inner space.
Hustling to me is an outdated broken
approach that leads to overwork. It
leads to broken marriages. It leads to
poor relationship with your kids. It
leads to aging faster. Don't hustle.
It's a myth.
All right. So, I'm the king of hustle.
So, right now, you're going to convince
me to be and I'm actually super open. I
always want a better answer than where
I'm at.
So, explain to me, and obviously I've
heard you talk about this, but I have
questions. Explain to me what it exactly
means to surrender into something.
So, so let me give you an example. Now,
you said you're the the king of hustle,
right? But I would actually debate that
when I talk about hustle, I talk about
the people who believe that you have to
work an ungodly number of hours to be
successful. There is a much healthier
way. So there are two different types of
people who are talking about
entrepreneurship today. There's the type
of people who talk about
entrepreneurship purely in the physical
sense. It's about the number of hours
you work. It's about the number of phone
calls. And of course hard work work has
its place. But then you see the rise of
books by people like Michael Singer who
wrote the book The Surrender Experiment.
And if you read the book, it's kind of
cool. This guy built a billion-dollar
software company. And he talks about how
he did that by surrendering, by going
within, by having a daily meditation
practice. Now, in your case, I believe
you're doing it. You're also moving to
that approach, but you're doing it
unconsciously. When you when I listened
to you speak at Aphest and you spoke
about how you sit down, you relax and
you thinkate and these ideas come into
you, you're tapping into something, Tom,
you're tapping into your intuition. That
is a far more efficient way than trying
to hustle to get these ideas. You're
going within. So, you're already doing
one of the first steps. Now, the second
part is how can you optimize your rate
of going from idea to reality? That's
that's the second part of bending
reality. And there are significant
number of tools that you can put into
play to to to help you do that by
working on your inner states. For
example, one is creative visualization.
There are so many studies that show that
what you visualize in your mind, you can
help accelerate in the world. For
example, one study called the finger
abduction experiment basically had
people exercise their fingers. Okay?
like physically exercising your fingers
and then a control group of people
visualized themselves exercising their
fingers and what they found is that one
group grew finger strength by um um
let's say about 10% the other group by
9% really close just by visualizing
their fingers. Now the same thing
happens in sales. You can actually
accelerate your sales closing rate by
visualizing the outcome. And we don't
really understand how it works but we
know it works. And the same thing
happens in your entrepreneurial life.
When you get a clear vision of the
business you want to create, of the
lifestyle you want to create, you move
towards that faster. And so meditation
to me is not just about going zen. It's
not just about like focusing on your
breathing. It's about knowing how to tap
in, which you do so well, and then
knowing how to get clear on what you
want and to focus on that vision for a
few minutes every day.
word that was very very well said. All
right, so that was an amazing
dissertation on the usefulness of
meditation and then we were about to go
to two when I forced you down. What was
incredible so I'm going to make you do
it again on number two. So brace
yourself
but uh what was number two?
So number two is uh body right is is
basically so so the second vertical in
mind valley is um health and longevity.
It's it's taking care of our human body.
Do you know that there's a big
difference between your chronological
age and your biological age? And science
recently, this was this was a study like
in the last one year, found that two
people can have the same chronological
age. That means they can be celebrating
their 40th birthday, but one could have
the body of a 45y old and one could have
the body of a 35y old. They can be as
much as a 10year gap. And so I've become
obsessed with reversing aging. And so um
going into the biohacking movement, I've
looked at everything from how can I heal
my eyesight naturally. So I've been able
to reduce my eye power from uh 2040 to
2025 where I go from needing glasses 40%
of the time to needing glasses 4% of the
time. So there are certain uh exercises
that you can do super slow uh training
uh that can actually accelerate your
muscular development. But many people
don't get this. They go to the gym and
they exercise in the wrong way or they
eat the wrong food or they think it's
too expensive to stay healthy. But with
but with a proper understanding of
longevity, of nutrition, of exercise,
you can add years to your life. So that
is something that we are so so so
excited about.
All right. So those are two amazing
verticals. Number three.
So so number three is relationships,
right? Um and relationships are so
important because I believe the age of
individuality is ending today.
Everything we do we do collaboratively.
The world is just too complex for anyone
to strike it out alone. And so we need
people in our lives. And there's a funny
thing happening in the world today. This
was a report from a couple of months
back. I think it was BBC. Loneliness is
up 300% in the Western world. And you
know, this may sound surprising because
look, aren't we more connected, as Mark
Zuckerberg says, with social media, with
Instagram, with Facebook. Aren't we more
connected than ever with our friends?
Well, the answer is yes, but on a
digital screen. And apparently that
isn't enough. So loneliness is up 300%.
And among people like you and me, the
further you rise up to the top, the more
lonely it gets. CEOs, 50% of American
CEOs report feeling lonely. But here's
the crazy part, right, Tom?
Loneliness is as bad for your health as
smoking 15 cigarettes a day. It is worse
for your health than obesity. So, one of
the things we're trying to do at Mine
Valley is develop models to help combat
loneliness. And so, everything we do,
every quest we we put people on, our
city campus is all designed to foster
friendships. So we create programs that
help you have better relationships with
your loved ones, better relationships
with your children, and we create
platforms like Mine Valley University
where a thousand people move to a city
together and we create a campus on the
fly, right, with many of the world's
greatest teachers who come together,
parents, children, entire families, and
not only are people learning together,
but they're forming tight bonds with
others so that you never have to feel
lonely again. And that's what that third
vertical is about. It's about giving us
stronger social bonds. One of the
biggest ways we transform is when we
connect with others and we have shared
shared meanings. When we support each
other, when you share your vision of the
world and I share mine or when we
challenge each other's ideas, but it all
comes by bringing people together. Do
you think that that's only achievable
through like physical proximity or can
it be achieved online as long as the
like structure is right?
Well, there's um there's a lot of
science to it, right? So, for example,
Harvard uh Ed Deer, the psychologist at
Harvard did a very interesting study
called the very happy people study. And
he wanted to figure out what makes
people happy. So, they looked at
everything. Is it fancy clothes? Is it
warm weather? Turns out there's only one
thing that makes you happy and it has a
7 correlation with happiness. For the
record, one is the highest correlation
means a perfect match. 7 is pretty damn
high and it was the strength of your
social connections. Now, the problem
with online is that you have a
connection, but is there strength to it?
But when you and I sit down in a cafe
and um we have a deep meaningful
conversation and we are connecting
ideally looking at each other in the eye
um being able to see not just text on a
screen but hear your voice see your
non-verbal cues that that creates the
strength in that social connection. So
yes, you can have a connection with
someone online but strength that's a
different thing and that comes from
shared experiences in the real world.
Yeah. No, I'm totally with that. That
study you talked about with loneliness
is really terrifying. The thought of it
being worse than smoking cigarettes and
I really hope people listening can
identify with that and I the the sense
of like it's lonely at the top I have
been very fortunate to avoid because my
wife is my co-founder,
right?
Um all right. So those are three of the
pillars. Pillar number four,
pillar number four is impact. Right. And
it's so funny.
Hello. [laughter]
It's so funny, right? because we
actually use the word impact and uh a
lot of people confuse career and impact.
Careers were designed to help us
survive. So people get into a career
because they are operating on a false
reality. The the postw World War II
reality which is where we needed a
9-to-five job to survive. But today the
world is changing so fast today. I mean
if you just look at and this is almost
the fourth time I'm holding up my
smartphone but it represents so much.
But if you look at what we have in our
smartphone, we have so much computing
power in our hands. If you're holding a
smartphone today, you have access to
more computing power and more
information than the president of the
United States did 20 years ago. Think
about that for a moment. Right? So with
that, the concept of career becomes
slightly outdated because anyone today
can learn how to earn an income online
if they have the right dedication and
the right skills. Because again if you
look at the data according to Gallup 87%
of people globally are disengaged from
work and answer yes to the question I
dislike my job 87%.
Which means 13% of the global population
and Gallup poll 2 million people 13% of
the global population like their job. So
there's obviously something broken
there.
But what does that have to do with
impact? You were saying that people need
to differentiate between impact and
their career. So, I get it. People don't
like their career, but even if they like
their career, doesn't necessarily mean
they're having impact. How do you guys
teach that? Like,
well, so there are different ways you
can have impact. One, for example, is
true communication. So, you want to
stack on these different things. One is
is entrepreneurial skills. Another is
being a great communicator. Another is
being a great leader. So, we have
programs that cover these. So, for
example, we uh we developed a program
with Lisa Nichols, whom I know has been
a guest on this show,
and and Lisa Nichols breaks down how she
speaks. So, if you remember when Lisa
Nichols was sitting on this chair,
right, she told you her story and she
and you'll notice she was talking about
how at a certain point she was
scavenging for money. And you'll notice
she starts digging into the corners of
the chair. Well, in the Mind Valley
program, she explains why she does that.
It's a technique called show me, don't
tell me. And she talks about how if you
want to make an impact on someone, you
want to get them to remember your story,
you physically act it out as you're
speaking. Now, as she goes deeper in
that quest, you learn tools to get your
ideas across. You learn tools to
convince an investor. You learn tools to
make your ideas heard at work. And thus,
you're able to make a better impact. So,
you're shortcutting someone's ability to
make a dent in the universe, to make an
impact in the universe.
Love that. Hit us up. Pillar five.
So we've covered we've covered mind,
we've covered mind and spirit, we've
covered um
um health and body, we've covered
relationship, we've covered impact. And
pillar five is what we call metalarning.
So metalarning is the art of learning
how to learn. Learning how to set the
right goals for your learning. learning
how to optimize your learning, meaning
speed learning, memory, and basically
improving yourself in terms of your
ability to absorb information, digest
that information, and then turn that
information into real world results. So,
we call that category metalarning. One
of the programs within metalarning is a
program called Superbrain, which we're
so excited about because now it's being
deployed in schools in Finland, right?
And um um the techniques are so cool. So
recently I was giving a talk in Munich
and there were about 300 people over
there and um at the end of the talk uh
on at the end of day one people would
come with my book for me to autograph
and as I write the name in their book
dear um um Kirby or whatever I would
look at their face and I would associate
that name with that face and so the next
day in the class I could I kid you not
remember 50% of the names in the room in
a room of 300 people. And there's
something so beautiful about that
because Dale Carnegie says the sweetest
word to anyone is their own name. And so
when you remember someone's name, it
makes them feel so appreciated. It makes
them feel important. And so people love
the class and they felt honored that
their names that when they raised their
hand, I could go, "All right, Kirby,
what was your question?"
Right? So I learned that from Superbrain
and it's a it's a really simple
technique. What you do is so again there
there are different there are different
tactics for learning someone's name. Uh
the tactic I use works something like
this. So your name is Tom. Okay. So I'm
going to do this with you and uh um
excuse me because it gets kind of
embarrassing sometimes. So firstly you
got to understand that your brain will
remember anything that is weird, sexual
or funny, right? That your brain is
going to is optimized to remember
anything that stands out.
So um
um Tom Billu. So when I think of the
word bill you, if I had to think about
something weird that that that that word
connotates, okay, bill you, I think of
the phrase bill you as in someone
billing you, someone asking you for
money. So I imag now now with that idea
in my head, I look at your face and I
try to identify what is the weirdest
thing about Tom's face. It's your ears.
You've got really beautiful Obama ears,
right? Like like floppy Obama ears. So
now, so now what what I try to imagine
is that they they are they are bills
coming out of your ears. So there's Tom
and I'm talking to Tom and his ears are
flapping like like Dumbo the elephant
and there are bills coming out of his
ears and he's billing me and he's such
an important guy that every minute I
spend with him I'm being build and now I
remember the name Bill.
Right?
And by the way when you remember the
name Bill, Tom is is easy to remember.
You'll remember the first name as well,
right? So by So again, it's finding
something weird in someone's face,
looking for the weirdest association you
can make to their name, and then making
that association and training yourself
to do it faster. And the faster you do
it, the faster you can do it. And then
you repeat the name. So if we were to
meet for the first time, I'd say Tom.
Okay, great to meet you, Tom. And then
over the course of the next one hour,
every time I see you, I would start with
Tom. I would just repeat that name and
repeat that name. And when you learn to
do this quick enough, you learn to
remember a ton of names really rapidly.
So, that's the technique.
It's fantastic. All right. I don't want
to run out of time. There's one more
topic I want to talk about, which is
you've grown really fast over the last
year. I think when we last met, um we
you were at 200 employees. You're now at
300. That's 50% growth in just a little
over a year, which is pretty insane. So,
what are you learning about teams? What
are you learning about personal
development in um in the workplace?
Well, one of the things that that's
exciting me a lot about the future of
humanity is how I believe the nature of
work is going to change. So, right now,
work extracts from you. When we work, it
actually makes us older because of the
increase in stress because of like I
said 87% of people today according to
Gallup dislike their jobs. And when you
dislike something, it takes it takes a
toll on you. So, work actually makes
people age. It makes people unhappy. It
produces sometimes negative emotions and
all of this have a toll on a biological
age. I want to help fix that because I
don't think we can continue as a human
species in a world where 87% of people
dislike their jobs and 55% of kids
dislike school. Kids walk to school and
run home. Think about that. So, how can
we switch that? So, one of my obsessions
is turning work and schools into an
oasis of wellness. And that's going to
become easier um to to to understand
when you see how rapidly the world is
changing, right? Work is becoming
grossly simplified because of AI,
because of robotics. We can get more
done in less time. Schools are going to
become more efficient. And so there's
going to be this big space for
transformational technologies to come
into schools and work. I believe that
we're going to see a shift in work where
where personal growth is going to become
a core offering in every workplace.
Companies won't just be paying you a
salary. They'll be paying you by making
you healthier. And what this means is
that you're going to see and and in the
book Alter Traits, the author shares
this statistic. 44% of the Fortune 100
this year in 2018 will have mindfulness
programs for their employees. But we're
going to see this expand beyond
mindfulness. We want to change the way
work functions so that when you are part
of a job that that company is actually
making you healthier and because you're
healthier, you show up better. You are
more dedicated to the company. You are
able to give more to the company. When
you get a job, you're actually not just
being paid, but you're being educated.
And so companies, corporations become
the new campuses of tomorrow. They
become the new universities of the
world. They become means to transform
their employees into a new type of human
being. And there's going to be an era
coming up, Tom, where it's no longer
going to be about companies asking their
employees to be engaged in the company
vision. Companies are going to be
engaged in their employees vision. What
this means is that companies are going
to care about who you want to be and are
going to help you become that person.
And there was this really interesting
study done, right, by again by Gallup
because Gallup does tons of studies on
on corporate culture. And and the study
said that employees who answer yes to
the following question, my supervisor or
someone at work cares about me as a
person. Employees who answer yes to that
question are far more engaged. They they
they have higher revenue per employee.
They they love their work more. They're
more committed. they're more hard
working on all all the the the items
that um a boss or a CEO, an entrepreneur
would want to see. Everything levels up
when they feel that they are cared for
as a person. And that's really what this
is about, caring for people as as
people.
Yeah, I love that, dude. I love the way
your mind works and the way you think
about all this stuff. It's really
exciting to me.
[sighs and gasps] We are unfortunately
at the final question time, but before I
ask it, tell these guys where they can
find you online. Well, um, go to mind
valley.com. That's my website. And, um,
but of course, you know, Mind Valley has
a ton of different programs and
teachers. Follow me on Instagram. I do a
lot of writing on Instagram on new
discoveries and new ideas and
transformation. And it's just vision.
Instagram.com/vision
vis.
And uh, I have a really good um,
following. Uh, we we we discuss
highlevel personal growth ideas and my
following loves to comment. So follow me
on Instagram and take part in those
comment based discussions.
Love that. All right, my final question.
What's the impact that you want to have
on the world
between now and 2038? My goal, and it's
a stretch goal, so 50% chance of
failure, is to create the biggest
leveling up in human consciousness our
species has seen. And this means getting
transformational technologies and
programs into every single company in
the Fortune 500 and being able to to
work with at least 100 national
governments to change a 100 different
national schooling systems to inject
transformation into students.
I love that Vision. Thank you so much
for coming, man. [applause]
All right, guys. Here's the thing that I
hope that you really noticed about this
man. When you ask him a question, he has
thought about the answer. It is
something that he has spent an
inordinate amount of time really
thinking about to get to the actual
answer of what he would have to do to
accomplish something. I love that. I
don't know about life book other than
what I found in the research, but
knowing him, I will tell you that it's
clarity. It's ultimately getting clarity
on what it is you want on life, want
from life, and then the action plan that
you're going to need to take to get
there. Is that pretty good?
Perfect. That's amazing. Literally, just
from knowing him, I'm telling you, this
is the way his mind works. Dive in. This
is what you're going to get from him is
an understanding of how much you have to
think about your own life. The level of
clarity that you have to have. Just
being around him is going to give you
that kind of clarity. You're going to
start asking the right questions. When
you talk about that your life is the
average of the five people that you
spend the most time with, this is a guy
that you want to spend time with
socially to see how he thinks, to see
how he approaches problems, to see just
how much he thinks about this stuff and
how [ __ ] audacious he is. It is
literally crazy. He is completely
reinventing the university system. I
absolutely love it. He said he was going
to do it two years ago and he's actually
doing it. So, there's nothing that I'm
more intoxicated by than people who know
what they want and they're really going
after it. Even when there are a thousand
reasons not to, even when there's 50%
chance of failing, that they go after
it. [clears throat]
So, dive into this guy's world. All
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