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Kind: captions Language: en for me life was a series of choices at that moment that choice was accepted injustice or rewrite the law and one of these things is a lot better than the other yeah so having a very deep sense of a North Star right that North Star for me was passing these rights and then also realizing that this is not only for me I think social movements can be fueled by anger but it can't be sustained on anger yeah I think only hope can sustain social movements and so at a point where you run out of that anger right because it will run out and you will hit what is often called activism fatigue there are so many issues where turn on the news there's another catastrophe happening every single day what can we actually do right that's where plans come in handy and that's where hopefully [Music] thanks for tuning in to this episode of impact theory sponsored by our friends at Skillshare enjoy the episode everybody welcome to impact theory our goal with this show and company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that will help you actually execute on your dreams alright today's guest is a two-time Forbes 30 under 30 honoree who turned a personal tragedy into one of the most successful social movements in modern US history a self-proclaimed civil rights astronaut the trajectory of this Harvard University graduates life was forever altered when she was raped in her final semester at college after encountering a justice system so systemic lis broken that convicted rapists had more rights than their victims she realized that if change was going to happen it was going to be up to her armed with the belief that freedom is not free she got to work and founded rise a national civil rights nonprofit with the aim of ending sexual violence to date she and her fellow risers have written and gotten enacted into law the sexual assault survivors Bill of Rights which was passed by a unanimous vote becoming only the 21st bill ever passed unanimously for her work here and abroad she's been named a foreign policy top 100 leading global thinker the Marie Claire young woman of the year The Tempest number one woman of color trailblazer one of the Frederick Douglass 200 and most accurately capturing the scope of the impact that she's had she was nominated for the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize so please help me in welcoming the woman who's become one of Shepard Fairey's iconic faces of the future the former NASA intern who spends her spare time hunting for new planets the indomitable Amanda no N thank you for being here worse the crazy thing diving into your story is a lot of people talk about wanting to change the world but not many of them actually do it's such a big task when you're looking at a problem that big how do you help people break it down and turn it into a process that they can actually execute against I love the way you frame that question which is breaking it down because hope and dreams are two different concepts to me and what I like to train teach my organizers is that hope means you have a plan right you know you can dream about anything right but when you have hope for something it means that we have concrete goal and that there are steps from plan a all the way to that goal that's one part of it the other part is I truly believe that we already have all of the light within us to achieve what it is that we want to achieve and that a lot of growing up is just trying to not be afraid of our own life what I mean by that is well if you want to be a pop singer then go be that if you want to be an astronaut then go be that you know and if you want to change the law take it from someone who has go do that so walk me through the the go be that to go do that it it's a very powerful statement but I think it's also where a lot of people get lost yeah so they hit the okay I want to be an astronaut which is another dream of yours so something you've stated very publicly I want to be an astronaut and a president which is pretty extraordinary but actually pretty interesting is I think you're making some incredible world-changing moves that also set you up pretty powerfully for both but when people hit that wall of like this is so big and I don't know where to begin what concept of like that first thread do you teach them to pull on and it might be useful to understand like as you were going through your own trauma instead of being overwhelmed and and feeling like I don't know how to begin this process what was that first concrete step that you took yeah look my background is in national security and astrophysics so I look at systems and then I learn how to hack them right so that's one thing the other thing is that the most powerful tool we all have is our voices and so once again we recognize that given the technology we have social media in this 21st century the platforms that exist in order to amplify our voices have been democratized in a sense so while a tweet can be a tweet which we can turn into a movement like me too and that is something that we shouldn't underestimate but to your point which is at what points of Cadalyst did I realize that this is a very big problem but how can i push through it very honestly it was a very deep sense and conviction in the principles and values that I'm fighting for one realizing that my story is not mine alone I remember walking into the local area rape crisis center and there weren't enough seats for us in the waiting room and I thought to myself if I have resources if I have a Harvard Law Professor as my attorney and we're still going through a labyrinth that is a criminal justice system well what does everybody else going through that doesn't have that right and for me life was a series of choices at that moment that choice was accepted in justice or rewrite the law and one of these things is a lot better than the other yeah so having a very deep sense of a North Star right that North Star for me was passing these rights and then also realizing that this is not only for me I think social movements can be fueled by anger but it can't be sustained on anger yeah I think only hope can sustain social movements and so at a point where you run out of that anger right because it will run out and you will hit what is often called activism fatigue there are so many issues where you turn on the news there's another catastrophe happening every single day what can we actually do right and so that's where plans come in handy and that's where hope comes in handy all right you've talked about hope anomic s-- which i think is a really interesting term how do we go from I'm I have the the conviction and so I'm gonna have my North Star I'm and have the thing that's gonna give me the energy at least to get started and I think it's really you really hit me when you said that the anger will burn out so how do we connect to hope in a moment of either tragedy or despair or feeling overwhelmed how do we connect to that hope and then how do we begin the process of either researching or building that plan yeah the hardest part about Rhys is when an organizer a new riser when we call them risers organizers comes to me and says I just I just want to make sure that no one in my community has to go through what I had to go through and so often there there's a tradition in the world of people taking their painful living truths and channeling you back to justice and so often people have to come to the realization that maybe their own personal justice will not be seen that is the most difficult part okay but um after realizing well hey maybe I can make sense of this by channeling what happened to me so that I can change the world you know that in itself is transformative and after passing 20 laws all unanimous in around 20 months I built and created a theory of organizing and that's called hope anomic s-- or the economics of hope the concept is that hope is contagious right in social movement building it's an art and a science you're architecting ascend again hope it's organizers from wherever they are understanding that the people who have the solutions to the world's most pressing problems are the people who live that problem everyday and so if it's community centered and if we're able to give those people in the community the tools to understand the system how to hack it where are the points the catalysts of decision making to in our case advance a bill how do you tell your story in a way that creates empathy how do you coalition build and how do you learn about the incentives as other people then maybe we can move and shake some things and I'm so proud to say you know that not I have passed these 20 laws but that I was able to train other people and that they passed these laws yeah that is really extraordinary and your whole notion of coalition building and the fact that we're living through one of the most politically divisive times right now and the fact that you were able to get these bills passed unanimously is pretty extraordinary you've talked very openly about coalition building is something that's strategic there were things we had to give up on to make sure that we had people come to the table I have to believe that you've learned some pretty powerful lessons about how we bring people that would otherwise want to fight and disagree to the table what are some tools of coalition building of you know deploying empathy that allow you to bring these people together yeah so I'll tell I'll start with the the hard news first which is there is a difference between doing good and feeling good and right now there is a lot of cathartic performance political theater this both sides both parties are responsible for this people who just it certainly feels good to perform to perform their ideas to the max but I along with 25 million other rape survivors in the United States did not have that luxury for me I didn't have the political luxury of not getting my civil rights passed I had to pend them into existence or else no one would and in my specific case it was that my evidence or colloquial known as a rape kit would be actively destroyed with a timer set on it so it was not only just sheer oppression but an urgent sense and hourglass ticking you know and I kind of compared it to like living through a saw game where I only had X amount of time until my justice would slip like sand through my fingers and so because of this my bottom line wasn't to tit-for-tat with somebody else it was how do I get you to the table so you understand that we're all in this together and that we have shared values of humanity that's the first part you know the second part one of the biggest critiques that I get is that I'm not radical enough and that the change that we at rise create is incremental and I own that we had to compromise in order to get these laws on the books but what that did was while we created the first law that may not have been what we all wanted the laws that were built subsequently modeled off their it kept pushing the boundaries for progress and to me I I'm ok with that you've said that having a voice is one of the most powerful tools that we have at our disposal how do people use that voice in a way that will actually get them where they want to go like when I hear that people are criticizing you for being radical that makes me nervous in the sense that well you're just going to end up back in these divisive camps and we're back to you know the Kabuki of the the grand performance without anybody actually holding themselves accountable to results so what do you teach your risers to do with their voice yeah so for our risers we trained them to cut through the political discord right um when a riser walks into an office of a member of Congress they know everything that that member ever said on the issue and they know how they voted on it they know the stats and statistics but they also know the personal stories what how's that member said about this issue what does that member care about and also what is that member incentivized by right how much what you're learning in all of this do you think applies to your life outside of politics some of the strategies that you guys use in the early days when people weren't paying attention to you I found really powerful and seem like they would apply no matter what walk us through some of the ways that you got people to listen when they told you not to come to Massachusetts it wasn't going to pass don't even bother but you did go and you managed in a very short period of time to go from it's not going to pass - it passes unanimously what what would your actual tactics that day that situation and for folks who don't know the original law that I wrote was for Massachusetts because that's where my civil rights are that's where my case is that's where I was raped and I remember the legislative session closing in the Statehouse closing and I was at the final 24 hours I was in DC and I was taking a flight up to Boston to fight for my rights and I get a call from a political advisor and she says the speaker is not bringing up your bill for a vote it's gonna die I thought to myself well why should I get on this plane and go to Massachusetts and then just watch my civil rights get slaughtered No and it was other survivors who said just show up and be present let them all see your face and it was one of the best lessons that I've ever learned which is just show up just be there just just show up for the next 14 hours we just representative to Senator to office to office went walked in and introduced ourselves why we were fighting for this why it needed to be put up for a vote we caught we got people to call in and I witnessed those calls coming into these offices we were very annoying to the secretary so those viewers this but at the end of the day the speaker did relent and he brought it up for a vote and it passed unanimously and that's how I and 400,000 other survivors in Massachusetts got civil rights that day and that lesson for me is it's not over until it's over but also that there's so much power so just going for it just believing that you can and fighting until the very end because you don't know that it's over it's over you've got some pretty extraordinarily big dreams like when I think that the person who ended up writing these laws and getting them passed and facing down a justice system that most people are paralyzed by the mere mention of having to crack that sort of infamously just black box also wants to be an astronaut which is another just infamously difficult like percentage-wise it's wrong it's crazy yeah because at the end of the day you know my skin the game isn't to I don't know have a legacy within this I just want to create change and then I want to get off the planet because I want to go to space and I think for that it really helped me take an orbital perspective if you will on what my role is in social justice which I'm also happy to talk about the work that I do and the way that I designed organizing and Rhys is very influenced by astrophysics and very influenced by space or the overview effect tell us about the overview effect I'd be so happy to help so when astronauts go into space for the first time many of them go through this profound cognitive psychological shift and it's called the overview effect where for the first time they see all living things that I've ever lived or died on this pale blue dot and it overwhelms them with awe and a sense that we are all on this spaceship earth together so they leave Earth as technicians but return to Earth deeply moved and dedicated to becoming a global citizen or humanitarian Wow that's really extraordinary so you seem to already be the deep humanitarian so what is it that drives you to want the overview effect and a lot of times when you say you know I want to get off this planet it's a little tongue-in-cheek makes it sound like you know I want to get away from the madness yeah but I actually I have a feeling that there's something else driving that so what makes you somebody so in touch with that already want to go to space um when I wake up every day the two burning questions that I have is what is my place in the universe and what am I going to do about it I think that both astrophysics and humanitarian work answers those same questions but also when I was 16 I had two heart surgeries oh yeah my first one failed so I had a ventricular tachycardia I was in a wheelchair for seven months I had a condition called sudden death which meant that I could die at any time and that I was just lucky to wake up another day and so for me that reset the way that I thought of the world every day is a blessing and also what am I gonna do with my time on earth and so I'm gonna do whatever I want which is living my authentic self I which is hunting for exoplanets and also rewriting the law because I have the right to do that and because I think it's the right thing to do and then also encouraging other people to to see that they can be whatever it is that they want to be - what is it about exoplanets you find so interesting what is it interesting about exoplanets I think that it's built into our DNA to want to be explorers but it's also as somebody who's lived in this body and had to deal with the different communities of marginalized identities that I am a part of how do we create a world that is again fair and has the potential to restructure other people's potential right I think that's super super cool yeah what do you think about the perception so you talk about being a part of multiple marginalized groups and I remember the study came out that said if you remind an Asian woman before she takes a math test that she's a woman she'll do poorly but that's correct mind her that she's Asian she'll do well that's so frame of reference is my life's work by the way it is the thing I'm more obsessed with than anything in this world that is why we do impact Theory it's to give people the ability to construct a frame of reference that's empowering so how do you think about that how have you built your own mindset to continue to pursue this extraordinary stuff there's not a week that goes by where I'm not reminded that I look the way that I do I'm either you know when I walk in and someone assumes that I'm not the boss or I walk in and they assume that my English is so good how is that possible it's constant or you know what sometimes when I give speeches I ask the women in the room to raise their hand if they have ever within that last past couple of days thought when they walked out to their car or at night how to not be raped nearly all of them raised their hands and all the men all look around they're like oh my god you know this constant vigilance that women have to put up or people who feel threatened have to put up in order to just survive so you know again even though I'm consistently reminded of this when people asked me how did I pass these laws how did I believe I could do it at 20-something years old and it comes back to that North Star that that very very rock solid grounded belief that history was on my side that this was way bigger than me and that there was just no other way that I I had to do this not only for my own civil rights but because millions of people also needed it too and because it is my constitutional right to do so and the right thing to do you've also called yourself I forget the exact words you used but like an unending optimist a pathological optimist I like your phrase how do you step into everyday with that optimism is it just natural for you or is it something that you actively cultivate because you know it's useful oh yeah one has to actively cultivate that I think astronauts and activists have to be extreme optimists in a sense where you're so you're presented with these incredible odds and yet you're like yeah I can go to space on this as a guinea pig on this you know rocket that might explode that has exploded in the past and same thing with activists that in the face of historical centuries of oppression that we still believe we still believe in that greater future or the our ability to push for a more perfect union right and again I think the most powerful force in the world is hope I think love is a derivative of hope right the fact that we can't in fact dream of better worlds we can think of what it would and could and should be like and then push for that and I think that is what makes us human do you think anyone can cultivate optimism yeah for sure are there steps well yes I don't have a plan outlined for cultivating optimism by the ballpark's wag me a few honestly counting one's blessings is pretty helpful for me but also knowing that change takes hard Lent less work and that there will be days when it sucks but then there are days that remind you why why it's worth it what is it that you're doing you know I get a lot of survivors coming up to me sharing with me their stories and to me every time a survivor does that it's like they're handing over coal it's a weight that I carry with me but it also keeps and fuels my fire for the fight and overtime under pressure we all become diamonds like that what do you think is the most useful trait that you have that's allowed you to excel like you've excelled it is pathological optimism but it's also quite honestly hard work I think and I'm gonna say something that might not be very popular especially with Millennials but because of certain marginalized identities I assume there is an often just battle between the time that I have for self-care and the time that I have to just put in the hard work you know and the 20 laws that have been created is a result of immense work it's almost like near-obsession of justice right to be driven by a fire where everything all day is about this and unfortunately you know it is just like experience I'll just talk about it from my experience you have to put in that work right there's this cartoon of two people starting at you know a starting line to finish a race and one of them you know has just the race and the other person has like a chain and there's a crocodile a mode and all these spikes and life is not fair but life is also what we make of it and so for me the reason why I'm not in space yet is because I realized that after passing these laws that I knew the path through the obstacle course and that maybe if I am able to create a blueprint I can show other people too and that if they can do it better than me that's when I seated how do you advise people to be authentic I find that a lot of times people aren't sure like what that even means they don't have a clarity in their life yeah yeah well I ask people what makes you cry yes because whatever moves you is what you're passionate about and it could be out of joy you could be out of satin gonna be whatever what is it that strikes and you and your heart and your soul or you feel it a burning sensation or just something that makes you get out of bed leap out you know that there find yourself in those moments and when you're really close to your soul I like that idea of finding yourself a lot and I've got to imagine one of the times in anyone's life where it's gonna be hard to really find yourself is after something traumatic or very difficult what is the healing process been like for you what do you tell other survivors about that healing process yeah first of all there's no one way to heal so I'll just speak for my own experience for me the way that I found justice was by creating justice I penned my own civil rights into existence I remember standing above the balcony the United States Congress watching each member that in itself to me was a form of justice personal justice but the transformation of going through and enacting my right as a citizen and also being able to help other people do that too has been the greatest thing of all I think a lot of risers again our organizers come to rise and stay at rise because they not only transform you know change on a macro level with laws for millions of people but also on a micro level themselves do you have any more of those negotiating tips that's one thing that I thought would be really useful for people to hear yeah there are what I'm saying is a description not a prescription right but also we've passed these things 20 times it works it's a idea of instead of being a battery RAM being like water and flowing through the cracks and and creating a tide that pushes things through and so identifying well where are the cracks where are the systems so most bills that rise works on civil rights bills go through the Judiciary Committee and I went to bill gets introduced it's yeah put into a committee hours judiciary and so in this committee let's just start from the Senate in the United States Congress for simplicity sake at the time that I was advocating for these rights the chair was senator Grassley nobody could put up the bill for a vote except for the chair he has the sole authority to do so so why would I call my member of Congress when I could just cut out the middleman and go to the person who has the the authority right at the risk of being very basic a lot of people don't actually know how a bill becomes a law I mean it's actually my pet peeve when people say call your member of Congress cuz I don't think that actually works and I'm an activist let me let me tell you why there are really only four people who control the process of a bill to become a law in the United States Congress and those four people are the people who have what is called agenda making Authority right these are people who have the authority to put a bill on the agenda for a vote so I talked to Senator Grassley once the bill makes it out of the committee it goes to the floor the sole person who could bring that up is Mitch McConnell majority leader why would I go to other people if he is again this whole person who makes that decision you know most most people don't realize this right same thing in the house at the time it was Bob Goodlatte for the chair of the House Judiciary and then Speaker Paul Ryan convincing these four people helped get this bill through in a unanimous way but also get it through in seven months bills usually take 10 to 15 years to pass yeah we got it through in seven months a group of twenty something year olds all right learn the system hack the system and when people realize this then they can see oh well it maybe is not as difficult as it sounds you know there's a past victory and I'll show you how it's really interesting breaking things down in terms of if you want to hack the system first you have to understand the system don't you understand the system then you can begin to find those points of leverage or like you're saying flow through the cracks yeah but it's interesting to me how many things come down to like when I think about okay you just hit an impenetrable wall what are the threads that you begin to pull out to really understand something for me it always begins with knowledge ends with research so it's gonna be alright if I want to understand how the system works first I need to understand the terms I just need to like there are words that are going to be used that will allow me to even unlock the next search that I'm gonna do on Google or if I'm you know at the library or whatever I need to know what actual words and phrases to look for so beginning just to understand what I'll call the rules of the game is really essential but I think people stop because they're like I don't even know the words rather than say okay step number one is gonna be to learn the words learn the lingo then understand who the players are then understand the power structure understand you know how this all eventually works when you have that when you have the pressure points then it becomes actually plausible because you can put that plan into place even looking at so like I said at the beginning of the show I really do want to change the world so that's the thing that drives me but when I think about changing the world I think about how we break things down into actionable items and so even this okay my goal the mission of this company is to pull people out of the matrix by giving them an empowering mindset how do you do that at scale so and you know really being honest about what works what doesn't to your earlier point about we live in the real world and so you have to deal with the world a way that is not the way that you wish it were which becomes very empowering actually but as we began to break down how we were going to impact people at scale I had to acknowledge that what I do on a daily basis is essentially talked to camera and say think like this and that affects two to five percent of people and they really do make change but there's up to 98 percent of the people that are unaffected by that and so what haunted me was how do I affect them and so by doing what I was just saying figuring out the terms finding the different threads to pull on understanding how to research this problem figuring out okay I'm dealing with the human animal that's what I'm trying to affect how does the brain process data how can I then insert myself into that process so that they're building something that is based essentially on the raw materials that I give them and so it's so interesting to hear you talk about the stuff because that's essentially what you're doing you're one game affine which I think is really interesting and actual have another question for you on that but breaking it down into its constituent parts finding out who the four people are that have power first of all finding out that four people have power then who are those people then what are their interests what's actually gonna move them forward not breaking down in fact this is an interesting story I'd love you to tell one of the early pieces of feedback you got was this isn't politically advantageous for me which you could have gone nuclear you could have like freaked out you could have shut down emotionally but instead oh I made it so that it is politically advantageous for them most of issues in our congressional debates that just where it's debates and it isn't around facts anymore and what what I realized was okay so how do I figure out how to actually move these people what are they incentivized by right so clearly it's not only just keep their seat but also it's what will make them look good that's just the reality of it sometimes I would talk to you in the early days of rise members who just really didn't care about me and then all of a sudden when I brought a celebrity they were they were there or like if pres wanted to do something they were there and I thought to myself huh okay well if I can't convince you on the merit of human rights then you know what I will bring that celebrity and I will bring that press because I will do what it takes order for millions of people to get rights very very smart and speaking of a tactic that helps people keep going talk to me a little bit more about the gamifying so the part that I found really interesting and I'd love to hear more about is you're saying that part of a game is that you improve your skills so how do you help people really quantify and look at I actually am getting better yes okay I love this part because it is probably the biggest thing I'm proud of it's not only like the twenty laws for 40 million people but it's seeing people transform as their skills become better and these skills are not only like super lobbying skills but rather transformative empowerment so let me give you an example most survivors when they reach out to us have experienced trauma that has resurfaced in their lives it may not have been recent trauma but it is it is present and what they're trying to do is channel that energy now into something and what that means is that they are very triggered and easily triggered and step one is narrative training which is owning your own story so we go through sessions where we sit down with them in a safe environment and have them tell their own story why do you care about this what makes you you and what do you hope to gain from this all right and over time you know you see them transform this narrative I mean most people are in tears after their first session I mean every I've never had a session where people didn't cry and you see them owned their story workshop their own lives and be able to tell their own stories in their own words I think that's actually very difficult a lot of people rely on outside validation rather than think what is my own story and how do I tell it in my own words know Who am I you know and so that's part of narrative training and it's quite intense because it's around their own trauma but over time as they go through the game they get to own their own narrative they get to be the writers of their own stories and then they get to tell it to people who are in decision-making positions and then they get to convince those people to create massive change and then as they go it's step by step first it's one senator I'm or one chair person and then it's just the committee and then it's the floor and then it's the other process of the chamber and then it's the president you know or the governor and at the end of it they have been exercising their own voice the power of their own voice the power of persuasion and empathy building and at the end of the game they're standing over the shoulder of the governor as he pens their own civil rights into existence and millions of others - and so that that growth is extraordinary to see that's amazing all right before I asked my last question tell these guys where they can find you get involved with you online or elsewhere yeah so if anyone is interested in writing penning their own civil rights into existence and learning the system and/or joining the fight they can go to our website so that's rise now us /join you can learn about hope anomic there go through the game yourself and learn how the system works and make it work for you all right my final question I think I know how you'll answer this but just in case what's the impact that you want to have on the world I want people to understand that you absolutely can rewrite the law you have it in you already to change the world and as soon as you realize that then you will that's amazing all right guys this is somebody who is looking at the gigantic problem of making change in the world who's not accepting excuses from herself holding herself to a massive standard realizing that you have to deal with the world the way that it is and not the way that you wish that it would be and as enacted change that is so sweeping and so amazing that it's obviously leaving everybody who looks at it in awe the fact that at her age at any age but especially at her age who have been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize is really really extraordinary and what I love is that she was able to turn this traumatic negative event and and really morph it into something that is extraordinarily beautiful and helping tens of millions of people's lives and that's just what she's done so far and I can only imagine how far she's gonna take this but at the same time is not allowing herself to be easily defined is also pursuing NASA is pursuing becoming an astronaut is really looking at how she can pursue the things that bring her joy and the fact that she's willing to overlook her cardiologist advice because she wants to live life on her terms and do things that she wants to do I think is such a powerful message and the fact that she takes that message and then breaks it down into actionable steps that anybody can come and plug into and apply to their own life applied to their own mission is really extraordinary and when you play this out as to somebody who sat before an intractable problem and said anger is not going to get me through this I'm gonna have to find something beautiful I'm gonna have to find a way to fill this with joy and understood humans well enough to gamify it and make it something that can be empowering for people is really just mind-blowing and so I highly encourage you guys to dive into her world to explore further these ideas that she's playing with to dream as big as she dreams but more importantly to come up with those plans that give rise to hope and allow you to really fall in love with something and do something with your life that is not only extraordinary from the outside but is extraordinary from the inside all right if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary take care and thank you so much what's up impactive as' if you want to acquire new skills or improve the ones you already have then you're going to love this as you know a huge part of 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