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o9AevNFZRjU • Success Comes FROM MASTERING These UNIVERSAL LAWS | Robert Greene
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Kind: captions Language: en life is a series of facts life is what it is awareness will spark everything it means all right now instead of reacting i'm going to think and i'm going to study what makes you differently unique is your source of power so the power to see inside yourself the power inside to see other people see the world you know you're superman if you can do that if you can have a degree of that the world is at your feet today's guest is the legendary number one new york times best-selling author of a string of books on the nature of power itself he's been referenced in songs by jay-z kanye west and drake to name but a few the godfather of power dynamics himself robert greene admit you have a problem admit you don't understand the people you deal with even your spouse or your children they're mysteries to you you don't really know what they're thinking so admit that first when you admit that now you're motivated to try and learn there are little steps you can take i won't go through all of them but the first thing is if you take your your wife or your husband if you say to yourself i don't really understand them i think i do but a lot of the times when you think you understand them you're just simply projecting your onto them your own emotions step back and say today i'm going to observe her let's just say from my point of view in a different way than i normally do and i'm going to look at her nonverbal communication because i'm a big believer in non-verbals and today i'm going to glean one truth about my wife or spouse or partner that i had never noticed before and i'm going to try and see perhaps get to the point where i can begin to understand her perspective so if for instance there's an argument or a disagreement here's another instance where you step back and you go stop being so self-righteous and maybe try and take the step of understanding her point of view so you know so these are sort of baby steps that you take in in life you can use this in your office where you think you you know your colleagues but you don't know them and they might be having thoughts about you that aren't very pleasant that you don't want to confront step back and start observing them and i have many many examples in the book about how lessons on how you can start observing people observing their body language seeing the subtext behind their words you know seeing their patterns of behavior you know for instance you'll notice sometimes we all go through this that when we see our boss we get a kind of body language and a nervousness that's it's unusual but when we see somebody else like a friend suddenly our face lights up and we're much more relaxed and happy all people are like that so you want to see how somebody reacts to you when you meet them when you come up to them and how they react to other people and notice that there's a great difference when they see you and suddenly they're very nervous around you or they're very excited that will tell you a lot about yourself and about them you're not being observant i have a chapter on your attitude in life how you can change your circumstances by changing your attitude your attitude towards life will determine what you get if you're avoidant and hostile towards people a hostile person will tend to create hostility around him so how can i alter my attitude and it's a struggle every single day i have to be incredibly patient and i'm not a patient person you don't try and repress your emotions you can't write a book you can't start a business you can't make a decision about what you want to do without the richness of emotions the brain is an organic thing everything works together so people who have had that damage where they can't feel the emotion that the emotions are blocked and there are brain damage that causes that it's been shown that they can't make rational decisions because they can't decide they can't feel what is what is good or what is bad what is an opportunity what is dangerous so you want your emotions you need them you're not trying to repress them repressing emotions will lead to other problems what you want is just that tiny little bit of distance that ability when you're feeling it to go back and go hmm why am i really feeling this what are the roots of it that's very powerful ability that you can use that you can develop through practice just like exercise will develop your muscles through being able to think before you react it will slowly become natural to you but you have to practice it you have to be aware of that's the source of your problem do you have a method for how you practice that well the main thing is to be aware of it because you know we're we're creatures that definitely don't like anything kind of painful we want our lives to be pleasurable we've had painful experiences in our life generally in social situations i maintain the most pain is psychological and comes from bad social interactions okay so you don't want pain in your life obviously everyone's going to answer that right so you don't want to make bad decisions you don't want to have your emotions dragging you along and causing all kinds of havoc so if you understand that that's the problem you're now motivated to then try and tackle it so i could give you the best techniques in the world but it won't matter at all if you don't feel that need for it that that hunger for the ability to have a slight degree of control over your own actions i try and picture it like my thoughts and my emotions they're out there they're like two feet away from me they're not inside my head they're over there and i could watch my mind create this little theater of all these little problems and dramas that's a beautiful thing i catch myself now because i'm not perfect i'm very human and i have the same problems that i'm talking about but i catch myself maybe 50 percent of the time now wow you're reacting here that emotional idiot part of you that lizard part of you is taking over and i can step back having just gone through an election cycle the the like absolute sense of urgency with every message at all like it's life and death like ah pay attention and everybody's like fighting and it really feels sort of terrifyingly divided right now and so thinking about okay people are splitting into camps they're conditioning themselves more and more be team players think in the the right way how can people begin to unwind that so that we can be more open-minded more mentally flexible finding a way to um find a common ground forward i'm not sure my real question is around conditioning how do we recognize it and how do we recondition ourselves well the process is always sort of the same i'm going to sound kind of monotonous in it but it comes down to awareness which is the key to all the things that i talked about in the laws of human nature you know so let's assume then that we go okay cool i'm aware of the fact that this is happening now how do i take control of that process like are is it be careful about the books you read be careful about the tv shows you watch or is there something beyond that awareness will spark everything it means all right now instead of reacting i'm going to think and i'm going to study okay and it's actually you know we humans we want things to be fun and pleasurable but trust me the process of analyzing things instead of reacting is one of the most fun pleasurable exercises you can ever go through because now whenever i see a television show whenever i see an outraged talking head on television or whatever i'm going hmm i'm studying their body language i'm going what are the nonverbals they're communicating where are their ideas coming from is this something real and stepping back and analyzing is incredibly exciting and it's more entertaining than just getting all emotionally involved in it so if you know that you're conditioned if you know that for instance um and they've i think it was i can't remember who it was that wrote an article recently about how social media and media in general is designed to hit those anger buttons right that's how they've been met that's how they've been navigating these whole four years of trump you know it's why their ratings have been through the roof so you know that's what they're doing you know that that's what's happening now it's exciting to actually see how they're doing it wow i can okay i pressed on that button that zuckerberg wants me to press on not zuckerberg but the technicians there okay why why did i do that robert why am i getting sucked into that you know this episode is sponsored by future go to try future dot co slash impact to get your first month for only 19 you can also click the link at the top of the episode description now enjoy the episode if we saw it completely into ourselves we would hate ourselves so thoroughly that we wouldn't get out of bed we would all be killing ourselves you do need a degree of illusion you do need a degree of self-esteem and confidence right and what happens is you know it's kind of like an internal thermostat and so you have like people who are what i call deep narcissists who have no kind of sense no anchor inside of them no real sense self-esteem to hold on to and when that self-esteem starts going down down down they have no way of dealing with it and their only way of dealing with it is acting out in the way that narcissists act out so we all have if we're not a deep narcissist we have that thermostat where things start hurting us a little bit and we bring ourselves back up through this self-esteem mechanism so we don't get too depressed and too down there's an element of unreality to that but it's very valuable and i would never ever ever want to burst that you need a degree of illusion in your life it's very important but if you really want change if you're really fed up if you're not kidding yourself if you're not going through this [ __ ] process yeah i kind of want to change my life but you don't really mean it then nothing you no words no no therapy will ever get you to that point you almost have to hit bottom you almost have to tell yourself i can't take this anymore and now the motivation is so deep that you're able now to go through to begin the process of going through that kind of self analysis because that's the only way you're going to get out of it it's the only way you know a lot of the of of our culture is making this worse in a way unfortunately i mean there's good things in our culture now but there are bad things give me some of the bad well i think social media for all the good that it does makes it very hard to be self-reflective interesting i i thought for sure you were going to say just leads us to compare ourselves why does it make it hard to be self-referring well it does well comparing yourself is not self-reflective when you compare yourself your standard is always what other people are doing right they're on these great vacations he's got a great job tom has this amazing house where i'm living in this hovel in los feliz right that's not looking at myself that's always having the other person as the standard it makes us so out in the world in other people what other people are saying what other people are doing it makes us continually think in the social sense and not able to turn inside and look at how who we are what makes us different we're so attuned to what's cool to what other people are doing out there what other people are saying that we lose kind of an intuitive grasp of who we are right so the psychologist abraham maslow talked of impulse voices he said that a child of one years old has this impulse voice that says i like this fruit i don't like this fruit i'm going to throw it away right and and then other things these voices inside that make them that individual this is what they like and what they hate right these are very very important as you develop later in life you know this is what you love these are the subjects that interest you these are subjects you're not interested these are the people you like these people you don't like it's who you are in the deepest sense of it it's your what i call your primal inclinations it's you at its core and if you're so attuned to what other people are saying and doing and telling you and thinking that voice gets drowned out by a million other voices and you're not able to hear yourself anymore and it's very hard to take a step back and actually look at yourself and analyze yourself so the power to see inside yourself the power inside to see other people to see the world you know you're superman if you can do that if you can have a degree of that the world is at your feet basically so you know i don't think there's any counter-argument to that where you don't want that kind of realism and it's not this ugly thing it's incredibly sexy because it's incredibly powerful right so we've now come to the point you and i we agree that that's what you want the person out there is going yeah i want that as well okay robert that's fine how do i get there aha well you have to be patient you have to know it's a process you can't get ahead of yourself you can't get ahead of your skis it's going to take day by day by day by day you have to build it up you're working against your own nature you're working against the times so be patient be compassionate with yourself and learn to take these baby steps and in the book daily laws i have a lot of different ways of attacking that the main way of attacking it is learning the ability as we talked about earlier to be able to detach yourself from the immediate events going on and to be able to look at yourself with a degree of dispassion and say this is what i did really did what really happened here so just a simple example something kind of doesn't go the way you wanted to which will happen almost every day or every week you know with your children with your spouse with your boss wherever okay what is your normal reaction every single human including myself blame that person they're not caring they're not empathetic they're an [ __ ] there's they're narcissistic blah blah blah stop it stop it right now don't do that again step back and say what did i do okay if that person is toxic why am i involved with them there's something wrong about me if that person got reactive and resentful and they had a bad tone of voice something that i said maybe there was something in me that was projecting kind of negativity maybe my own mood wasn't really was kind of creating this atmosphere that made them react that way look at yourself instead of blaming other people you know these are parts of the process there are many others but yeah dude that is so huge people always so i have a saying that i like that most people [ __ ] hate which is everything is my fault i love it it's so useful so uh fault is a word that gives people i don't know emotional distress or something so they don't like when i use that phrase um but what i like to remind myself is that if i did something different i could get a different outcome right and that's so powerful to me to not by blaming somebody else by making it their fault i give away all my power and there's nothing i can do about it and now i'm sort of a victim of circumstance but man when you take 100 ownership and you look at your life and say my life is an exact reflection of choices that i've made now if i want it to be different then i just need only make different choices completely and and one of the things that's like that is if something went wrong maybe and i'm to blame just accept it just accept the fact that it happened don't try to change it but just say that this has happened and i'm not going to fight it and it's just my fate in life you know it's okay right so the ability to accept things is also taking ownership of them so if something bad happens and you can't really control it because let's be honest there are times that you can't control things they're just going to happen who predicted a pandemic you can't control that right so your first reaction is to get all pissy and go damn it why did heaven [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] i'm a victim blah blah blah okay that's just gonna make you more depressed more inward more harder to act in the world whereas if you say okay i can't control the pandemic it's a terrible thing but i'm gonna roll with the punches i'm gonna accept the way things are i'm not going to fight it this is the way the world is what can i get out of it what kind of benefit well maybe i can reassess my career maybe before the pandemic happened i was just headed in this path and i wasn't i was kind of blind maybe i'm not really happy with what i am i'm not happy with my relationships with my career maybe i need to reassess it maybe it's time for me to be alone and read books and and study and and learn new skills etc so the ability to to accept things that you can't change and to see 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episode description all right guys take care and be legendary what mechanisms do you use to reset every day i meditate every morning i've been doing that for several years for eight years now religiously and in those meditations i confront myself so i'm sitting there meditating and my meditation is all about emptying the mind but it's impossible to empty the mind so as you're meditating thoughts come to you anxieties worries resentments i've trained myself to question where they are each time i feel anger at my sibling or my mother or friend for saying something that i misinterpreted i go that's your ego speaking you these people weren't saying something that was personal you just have your ego which is always getting in your way question it so question my impatience my frustrations etc the meditation has really helped me then a fr a friend of mine wrote saying about the stroke well look at it this way that it's kind of an adventure that you're having to experience things you've never experienced before i go wow you know i think i'm so brilliant but i'm not sometimes people other people have the best ideas i'm always stealing their ideas that was a great idea this is an adventure this is something new i'm having to learn it it can be exciting although really i'm feeling kind of bitter and angry i have to confront that and move past it amarfati yes exactly tell people what that means well it's a latin expression that literally means love of fate and it's it was created by the german philosopher friedrich nietzsche it's one of my great icons in life one of my favorite writers and basically his idea was that we humans normally go through life kind of not accepting things we want things to be different from the way they are we want to have a better [Music] wife or husband we want our children to be better we don't like the political system we want this sort of utopia to suddenly come about we want people to be different we want this we want that and denisha that meant you are anti-life you are against life because life isn't like that life is a series of facts life is what it is we've evolved a certain way your reality is a certain way it is what it is and by pushing against things you hate life you want to love life you want to love fate and what fate means things happen to you can't control you didn't control who your parents are you didn't control what city you were born into what school you went into you didn't control whether you were born rich or poor right there's much you can't control that's fate accept it for what it is stop whining and stop going i want something else embrace your world your life the our fear of death is probably the greatest influence on our behavior throughout history we're the only animal that's cautious of our mortality and it's caused an incredible reaction we're avoiding we're anxious we invent an afterlife a heaven where we'll all go right or today we never see death we never see people die in hospitals we never see the animals that we eat being killed we have no confrontation with death personally in our life completely disconnected from it it makes us anxious and fearful and that controls everything about our behavior we become anxious and fearful about everything so the ability to accept death and look at square in the eye and accept this is your reality that you're not going to live forever is very liberating so a more fatty is a step from turning your back that's face this way going here's life and oh i hate it i don't want it to turning around and facing it going i accept it i love it i embrace it and it has a very powerful effect we humans naturally want power we want a degree of control over our our lives so imagine the scenario where you can't control anything about your children they just run wild you can't influence them you can't control any of the behavior of your spouse that's irritating the [ __ ] out of you you can't control your colleagues who are plotting all these things you have no and your boss is making you crazy you have no control that's a recipe for incredible not only misery but depression for turning into all kinds of health problems returning to drugs and alcohol for going off the deep end by the time you're 40 right so you want power in your life power is i have goals i have a fate i have a destiny in life i want by the time i'm 40 to reach them the ability to reach that to have control over yourself and your and to a degree of your emotions not repressing them but some control right will help you realize those goals that is power power isn't like some politician up there you know weaving all these machiavellian things to hurt and destroy people that's the cliche you've been watching house of cards for too long i don't know nobody watches that anymore but whatever the new show is so that's not power power is the ability to guide yourself in a through a very dangerous world very competitive world where every we're almost all having to kind of work for ourselves where we don't get much help or cooperation from the world we're thrown out of the university if we go to college and here we're in this world where there are no rule books telling us how to navigate it it's very complicated very difficult and you make mistakes that you can suffer for and power is knowledge his ideas is understanding how to navigate a very dangerous world okay so you want that to get back on track to what i was saying so you want that right you want to be this is something that i talk about in mastery the idea of wasting your potential of never realizing your goals of never being able to to to create that business you wanted to create or make that film that you think is in you or start the business that you're starting tom you know that's what you want in life and if you don't want that there's nothing i can say that'll help you right i'm starting with the assumption that you want that and i think most people do want that okay so your your rage you're you're constantly being wasting time on the internet you're constantly being effect infected by the emotions of other people is wiping away day by day second by second all of your own power right because what is your power your power as you tom is to be able to realize what makes you different what makes you unique you had i don't quite remember the full trajectory of your career but i remember you early on with the health company that you had started and all this and then you had a plan your plan is to create this kind of emperor i'm not trying to reveal your secrets here but you have i'll reveal a way you have this idea of creating a new kind of empire sort of a new disney right and that comes from something within i'm assuming that there's something of the child in you that wants that that you've wanted that for a while that it represents something that's unique about you it's not something that comes from social media or the people around you that could play a small role but it's mostly something from within you it's you okay and that's you what makes you different or unique is your source of power and the days you spend getting angry about things that aren't have nothing to do with your day-to-day life they're where they're corroding that uniqueness of you and they're making you a conforming pavlovian dog that's just like everybody else out there in the world if you look at the people who are truly successful and powerful see them as kind of models or icons to reach okay it's not to say that we all have to be incredibly successful to feel fulfilled i'm not saying that i know people who are really great carpenters who are great at that and that's really fulfilling and i know people who uh who just want to be parents and that's their life's task and it's tremendously fulfilling but the people who are really successful even at those things we can say that they're that they're unique that they're one of a kind that there's nobody else like them and that is the source of your power right so you want that if you don't want that i can't help you but if you do want that you're the time you're wasting getting enraged and being manipulated and feeling all these things and just getting into that lizard part of you is time you're wasting and and your life is is a lot shorter than you think it is i did a book with 50 cent called the 50th love and i hung out with 50 for several months he's a great guy we're still friends 50 had even worse near-death experience than i was he was shot nine times very close range bullet went through his jaw he came this close to dying and he said and i've noticed it in him since then that nothing can faze him after that how can he be afraid of anything in life once he came that close to death so he has this kind of zen calmness that i've witnessed you don't think of 50 as being zen and calm you think him as this angry kind of thug like rapper but in real life he's incredibly calm person who never seems to get riled by things well i've had a little bit of that effect myself um so i've noticed the people around me like my mother or other people they're all freaking out about what's happened to me oh my god you've got to keep you might fall you might do this and i i don't care really i don't i feel calm i feel more calm than i felt in a long time so that was kind of a counter-intuitive thing that i wasn't expecting now is that because you feel like there's nothing left to take away now every day is a gift or um what is it what is the calmness born of it's definitely that and then it's definitely it helps the fact that i've written this is my sixth book the loss of human nature was sort of like my ultimate i like vomited out of me everything that i had built over the last 20 years into this one book all the things i've learned all my anger i got it out into this one book so if i die i don't have to i don't have any regrets you know i i'd like to write a seventh and an eighth book i have other ideas but i could die and i'm okay i lived a great life and i talk a lot about that in mastery and in this book that the worst feeling in the world is to be facing death and to think damn it i've wasted my life and i want people out there to realize that if your 20s and your 30s you don't want to reach that point you don't want to waste your time and become 55 58 have a stroke face death and what have you done nothing you've moved from job to job you tried this you tried that with half the energy you really have nothing to look back on that's the worst feeling so you know i don't have that problem i don't think so that's part of how i'm able to stay calm but the other thing is you say bring it on what words can happen i've already experienced it you know i'm somebody who has a great deal of fear of death and now i had to deal with it so yeah it's all right it's not that bad i can handle it read everything this man has ever written i'm telling you he is absolutely right these are books that get under your skin they will change the way that you look at the world they will change the way that you look at human nature and most importantly if you let it they will change the way you look at yourself and we didn't even get into some of the extraordinary stuff that he talked about in the book about how you develop self-esteem the story that you tell yourself how you construct your sense of self how it's used both as a mask and as a way to reflect back on yourself it is incredibly extraordinary and as you go on the journey of reading the book if you're open to it you will see yourself in many of the darker elements of human nature i am sad to say that i think all of us will see bits and pieces of ourselves through all of the 18 laws of human nature not all of them are flattering but if you're willing to really get that level of understanding like he said from there you can change yourself but if you don't first understand yourself then that is absolutely hopeless and that has really been the extraordinary journey that he's taken us on as reader zasrar through all six of his books is to just understand as he called other people facts of nature i think that's so interesting and to see yourself in that pantheon as well to understand that there are parts of you that are just facts of nature and to really come to understand those is to come to understand yourself is to be a master of yourself and that journey is something that i'm extraordinarily grateful to him for laying out in this book so eloquently i think it is worth every second that you will spend on it i cannot highly recommend it enough i have a new website it's at robertgreenofficial.com i hope i have that right robert greenofficial your socials are at robert greene official yes and there you will find instagram i have tick tock believe it or not my man yeah that's good that's good this new generation needs to know okay so i've ticked if i talk instagram facebook twitter and then a website where you can get links to all of my books and some of my ancient blog posts and things like interviews it's in my youtube channel all right guys if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary take care [Applause]