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when you have power obviously you're
looking to solidify your power one of
the things that I I always say is you
know capitalists make the best
socialists for example right once you've
climbed the ladder and like you've via
capitalism like say you're Jeff Bezos
I'm just using him as an example not
pointing him out for anything but if
you're Jeff Bezos and you're the you're
like the richest man in the world and
you become the richest man in the world
because you built Amazon well you don't
want the next big guy to come around and
make something bigger than Amazon right
so you're looking at how you can make
sure there is no competition like the
very thing that let you into the markets
is like you don't want the markets to be
so free anymore and it's why so many
people even in the past uh this is why
we we initially had to pass laws against
monopolies because powerful people were
just like I'll just buy up all the
smaller guys and become more and more
powerful that's like the instinct is to
just maintain your power if you're
whether you're a business whether you're
the government or whether you've
realized that uh a relationship between
businesses and the government is the
best way way to maintain your power and
I'm speaking about the vaccine industry
it's a perfect marriage between the
manufacturers who don't allow any
competitions there's very few you got
you know fizer you've got MC there's a
couple other ones I'm forgetting but
there very small group of people and
they're in lock step with the FDA and
you've got sort of this perfect marriage
and they have a lot of power and in my
view they've become a drug cartel
because of those reasons so yeah I mean
that would be I think my answer to that
question of who is trying to control
things it's people that have power that
don't want to let go of
it and don't want their power
threatened now I heard you say something
when I was researching you that uh uh it
gave me pause so I'm very curious to
hear you and I share a fear of
authoritarian rule but when you were
talking to Andrew Tate you said that
maybe Putin wouldn't be the worst you
were being a little tongue and cheek um
but I'm curious do you actually think
that the way that Putin runs his
government is better than What's
Happening
Here I think America is running the
government exactly like Putin that what
we just have an illusion of freedom I
don't see like there was actually this
notorious point and I want to say two
things about that because I I actually
do recognize that the way Putin is
running his government and China is
running their government is obviously
going to take America out because
there's not a society that can survive
without strong men and we're now
encouraging weak men so if you're if
you're betting on a horse go go with the
strong one not the week one right um and
that was kind of one of the things that
me and Tate were talking about was like
operation globo homo right and we were
saying that obviously just giving a
funny name to it but there is this
increase in like transgender be a
lesbian you know get kids on
Pharmaceuticals we are now a society of
weak men so when you say objectively
which government is running their
country better well how do you run a
country you want your country to survive
right the Next Generation to be able
survive and to be in a position of power
America is not doing that right now
we're we're we are we are making our
country weaker and weaker and weaker and
that's why I say this isn't my
Granddaddy's America right so this is
not the men are way too effeminate and
it's just it's the culture is is rot in
but to to go back to my first point I
was going to make um there was this
point when Joe Biden said something he
called Putin a killer right a
cold-blooded killer and Putin responded
because I'm I'm interested enough that I
go read his speeches because I don't I
know the media lies about everything
they lied about what was causing the
Ukraine war you got you have to read
everyone's speeches and try to discern
for yourself what's true but Putin said
it takes one to No
One what what what Mirage are we
existing in that you think Putin is a
cold-blooded killer and not America
who's been at war overseas
we bombed a million Iraqi civilians 1
million innocent people we bombed we've
been bombing the Middle East we've been
bombing like nonstop look what we did in
Afghanistan so it's like we just have
this illusion because it's not happening
on our soil and the media is telling us
at every time we're stomping out
terrorists I mean do yourself a favor
and obviously Wikipedia is not a great
source for anything but you should just
go up and look up color revolutions and
just look at the list of how many times
we overthrew governments who are we to
do that could you imagine and and then
you have our media going Russia spent a
a million dollars trying to influence
our election and I think it's just it's
hilarious how people can be so plugged
in that they don't even realize we
specialize in overthrowing countries in
their elections and installing people we
did this in Ukraine this is the reason
that this whole this whole conflict
didn't begin two years ago this whole
conflict began when John McCain went
over there and and this something Dave
Smith and spoke about and was protesting
in the streets they overthrew a duly
elected government in Ukraine and
installed a puppet for the West that's
going to create tension in various areas
and so to think at what we did to
Gaddafi I mean horrific so to I what I
don't accept once you learn about not
even history you're talking about actual
present and what America has done to
other countries I no longer accept the
Putin Boogeyman Theory like it takes one
to know one these are how governments
are run he's open about what he is we
are still making people think well we
passed gay marriage so I guess it means
like we're not like bopping dropping
bombs on children everywhere all across
the world and staging um elections
around the world and overthrowing
meaning you know people's duly elected
elections and making countries worse
after we're there as we tell our public
that we're spreading democracy go check
out a list of all the countries that
we've said that we spreading democracy
or bombing them into
Oblivion yeah there there is no doubt in
my mind that um real politique the
movements of people to establish power
internationally and keep that power is
is a bloody and horrifying game that
America has certainly been uh very
involved in um but going back to the
idea of so right now I have the belief
that the American system is far better
than the Russian system system um so I
want to understand so the reason I
believe that is while I believe that
democracy is um very fragile that it is
certainly under assault that we for sure
should be very worried about some of the
authoritarian moves um we at least have
had the transition of power I am very
aware of how people feel about recent
events uh in terms of it not being as
peaceful as it ought to have been um but
in Russia they've had the same leader
for whatever 16 years or something that
to me is a an indicator of an underlying
authoritarian rule that is a step
farther down the road than where we are
now is that your read on the situation
or are you like if we could literally
one for one swap we'd be better off
America be tougher we wouldn't be
raising weak men do you think that would
be better than what we have
now I don't think that what we have now
is what we believe we have now so I'm
I've I've recognized that America is
just a Hollywood production I mean I
don't think or at least I would hope
that most people recognize that Joe
Biden has not been running the nation
for four years right I think we kind of
all acknowledge that he's not been
running the nation for four years the
question is who has been and this gets
into the shadow government you know the
media completely panicked and went into
a tail spin when Tucker Carlson went
over there to interview Vladimir Putin
why right why would you be in a complete
Tail Spin this is what journalism
journalists are supposed to do like
since the beginning of time journalists
are supposed to go and speak to other
leaders of countries to get information
and they freaked out about this and one
of the most compelling parts of that
conversation was when Tucker asked him a
meaningful question I think it might
have been about President Clinton and he
said like you know when you and
President Clinton spoke about this did
maybe it was about um him joining NATO
because he said I've tried to join NATO
several times like I've tried to work
with the West which is true by the way
that's a fact he he has but they've not
wanted to do that for whatever reason
and he almost looked at Tucker like he
was a child he's just like you know I
don't deal with your Presidents I deal
with the CIA you know you it's like
nobody cares about your president I know
it's like a fun thing and democracy wins
and we all get to applaud and yay it's
the first black president at the end of
the day like my belief is that this is
an
oligarchy and the CIA is running things
and the
and so yeah if we're they're doing
things without even having to come to
the American people for permission I
mean I thought Congress had to prove us
going to war how are we sending all of
these packages billions of dollars
overseas the state tells us Pentagon
tells us oh couldn't figure out the
account and we lost all that money we
can't tell you where it went meanwhile
they're sending
550,000 more IRS agents to make sure you
paid that extra 100 bucks so to me it's
just it's all an illusion and I thought
that was that was honest like that that
was actually what I appreciated it was
just Vadim Putin being like what kind of
a non obviously I deal I deal with the
CIA you know like and so I in that way
kind of think it's a little bit of The
Truman Show here in America and people
are invested in believing that there's
going to be change but when you really
take a look into it nothing ever really
does
change I have a big belief that it
doesn't matter what you look at it
matters what you see and my look I am
very open to that the in the final
analysis I'm the one that's delusional
and I look at something and I'm not
seeing what's really there and obviously
you do not know me but um my whole thing
is beliefs have utility and they either
help you do the things you're trying to
do and I'll assume that somebody has an
honorable goal and so my thing is hey
you should only do and believe that
which moves you towards that honorable
goal now I look at Russia versus America
and I go okay we if as a business guy
I'm just always looking at kpis all
right so we have a way better economy
and compared to Russia so I look at
Russia and I say all right one guy in
charge uh make him happy you can do what
you want don't make him happy you can't
America is hey I get it there's a lot of
BS there's a lot of narrative there's a
lot of convincing people that we are
something that we're really not but at
the same time the structure that we have
created has attracted and produced some
of the most
extraordinary uh innovators the world
has ever seen and so I look at that and
I'm the guy for whom the system worked I
grew up middle class maybe even lower
middle class and I have succeeded
tremendously and so I look at the system
and I'm like hey I don't want this
system to fall apart I look at Russia
and I say that that is a fundamentally
different belief system that is uh the
collective over the
individual that is have you been to
Russia I have
not interesting yeah so I I couldn't
tell you because I had not been to
Russia but I always think it's
interesting when people speak
passionately about a place they've never
seen maybe you know Russians I mean I I
can only say I know Russians um and it
it's just interesting it's interesting
to hear and that's one thing that I
always do too is I I try not to speak
about places that I don't feel like I
have a leg in because I've been so blown
away by what I thought was true and then
what kind of was a situation when I
arrived somewhere you know you go to
American cities and they're in ruin
there's homeless people on the streets
there's homeless encampments you know
you and I both got ahead not coming from
much uh but the circumstance when you
look at the filth that surrounds these
cities it's so shocking to step outside
of that and go somewhere and you're kind
of constantly being told like America is
the greatest place in the world America
is the greatest place in the world and
you just wonder why it is and I think
actually Tucker did the segment when he
went out there how he was so shocked by
how clean everything was and like how I
don't I think he he did this thing where
he got made fun of in he got made fun of
in the media because he went to the
grocery store and and spoke about how
cheap the prices were versus what he had
expected in his American mindset before
going out there so that's the only
reason I'm asking you I don't actually
know the answer I've never been there
either but I'm wondering if you're
relying upon not the Church of science
but the Church of media to inform what
you believe to be about Russia like do
you think they all hate him and he's an
evil dictator or do you think the Russ
love
him uh I don't have any knowledge of
that I am I'm surprised that you said
you thought I was speaking passionately
about Russia I'm speaking passionately
about America so looking at I passion as
in like not positive passion just like
you know you have you have a very formed
opinion of Russia right you're kind of
like well Russia compared to the America
what do you think yeah yeah but I'm
talking about a kpi so I'm looking at
economics so you look at the economic
output of of the two countries we are
way ahead of Russia and then the next
question is okay why maybe the punchline
is uh Western interference okay that's
possible I am very open to whatever the
punchline ends up being but in trying to
um I am trying to leverage you as
somebody who looks at the narratives
that we're being told identifies that
many of them are not true and then
offers a way forward and so I'm trying
to figure out how you judge like the
Putin thing was the one where I was like
whoa I didn't see that one coming uh I
couldn't map it to what I thought of as
your world view and so I'm just trying
to understand from your perspective what
that
represents so far what I've taken away
and if this is missing or inaccurate let
me know but what I've taken away so far
is a some very substantive portion of
why that feels at least intuitively
right to you is that America is
generating weak men and I've heard you
talk a lot about uh the roles between
the Sexes the way that we're raising men
and women has a high level of
dysfunction but I didn't know if there
was more to it if it's like just that's
you grappling with feeling like there is
a cultural problem that we have here in
the west that they have solved better
than us or if like you've really done a
deep dive and you're like yo we'd be
better off with that style of
government well no I have not and what I
would say is the social aspects really
mattered to me so I was covering on my
show this story where they were
presenting it like Russia was this
terrible place because they were hunting
down a woman who in protest like took
her top off in in front of this sacred
Cathedral and they're like look at this
unfree country like you know they're
putting her on a list and the cops are
searching for her and then I asked my
audience a question like
you think you couldn't survive in a
place that said like you couldn't take
like we we've gone the we're just the
Other Extreme do you know what I mean
we're The Other Extreme where people can
deficate on a cathedral or people can
women are naked all the time we have
walks and we go oh this is freedom
this is not Freedom this is not Freedom
at all we have no respect for anything
in this country and so it's it's not
that Russia is better than America it's
that Russia in me and America if you
think about it
are just opposite sides it's like it's
like you know it's like the Horseshoe
Theory it's really it's like this is the
Other Extreme and it's awful it's
absolutely awful I we should San
Francisco should not have hoop police
you know what I mean and you're like but
at least you can take your top off in a
cathedral I'm like yeah but I don't want
to do that like I have enough respect
for me and my community my neighbors
that I'd be totally fine if there was a
law that if you took your top off at a
cathedral you get arrested I'm actually
okay with that like if we have to
regulate like having common decency and
respect because we somehow have had our
brains rinsed into believing that that's
this is what freedom is no it's this is
not freedom and and so of course one of
the things also is that it's a tremend
it's it's a very Christian Society and
obviously if that's a bias that I could
lay down you know it's got an Orthodox
Christian Society and yeah it matters to
me that there are strong men I think
it's important to have strong men and so
one of the things yeah I it's not even
it's more a commentary that the opposite
thing is not good right like you're like
you you can't swing the pendulum to the
exact opposite side and go so this must
be good no this is very bad America's in
a very bad State
socially all right is what we have not
Freedom or do you have a value that
supersedes freedom that you want to see
as our primary even if it's just
culturally aspired to value
well I would say that if you don't have
bodily autonomy you definitely can't
purport to be a free Society so that for
me was a like wow like force vaccine
people to go to work is that's
enslavement that's crazy you know you
cannot say we live in a free society
when the government attempted to
implement Force like you you can't work
you're going to get fired if you don't
get this vaccine that we created that's
not a free Society um the tax burden and
the way that it's increased not even
being able to know where your tax taxes
are this is just not the this is not the
vision that our founding fathers had we
are very far removed from that and we're
inching closer and closer to socialism
you know the money that is being spent
on welfare isn't actually increasing
people's welfare right you You' got
trillions of dollars spent on the
welfare system since it was implemented
and the people that received the
recipients are poorer today than they
were when it began so this seem like it
seems like they're
encouraging a sort of Neo slavery it's
like an illusion of freedom but in fact
it's like NEOS slavery where they kind
of want everyone to be a welfare
recipient they want everyone to be
relying on the government for something
and a big piece of that is also the
pharmaceutical industry which is
creating addicts the opioid crisis no
one ever gets into trouble and you see
more and more kids that are being put on
very serious drugs at a young age and I
I don't think the government has our
best interest at heart now you add that
in addition to that look at the
education system we're creating the
Department of Education they said in
what was it uh which uh president was
that the Jimmy Carter in 1970 who
created the Department of Education and
it's because every child deserves to
have an access to to education what have
been the results it is a fact kids are
getting dumber and dumber and dumber it
has been an abject failure or it's been
a success because the goal is to create
the illusion of Education while all
you're actually doing is creating a
bunch of brats who are so convinced that
they're smart but they can't do a basic
math problem they don't they cannot even
write an English paper they can't even
speak English and then you weigh that
against and this is something that Matt
Walsh brought into the foray go read a
letter written by a civil war soldier
who had no formal education and it
sounds like poetry we're systematically
being dumbed down I believe that we're
systematically being poisoned I believe
that uh we're systematically being made
sicker via the things that are allowed
in our food that are not allowed in the
food in Europe when I go and stay in
even London for months at a time because
my husband's from the UK I feel better
like we're they're like allowed to
poison us here because of course like I
said the FDA is colluding with these
people the Monsanto everything that is
happening in America right now does not
feel like Freedom it feels like a very
slow darkening a very slow diminishing
of the human mind and the human
body would you want to see um more
freedom and a return to that or to
capture it for the first time or would
you value decency above
Freedom well I don't think it violates
my freedom in any way to say like hey
you can't defecate in the streets like
you know I think that's you know um I I
would I would be totally fine with that
uh actually
what I would like to see and I think the
only way to attain your freedom is on a
household to household basis and making
those decisions to step outside of the
quote unquote Matrix or the system
that's been created for you that's why I
encourage homeschooling and The
Homeschool students are excelling right
now you know and there's a reason for
that because they're not being put in a
classroom that's just trying to marry
them to various social causes I mean
trying to pass like CRT and like race
training above making sure kids can be
mathematically competitive like do do
you really think like China's not going
to stomp on America in a generation
their kids are like this on the
calculator when they're three when
they're three years old so I I think
that the best way to achieve freedom is
to achieve Freedom within your own
household you know and that's what I
encourage the parents I say you can
always control what happens in your own
household you can always be the person
that stands up and and says like this is
my bottom line like my kids are not
doing this and we're not doing this and
also making yourself more
self-sufficient like something that I
did because I wanted to achieve Freedom
was I learned how to grow food people
don't even realize that that has even
created welfare recipients like if if
something happened in New York City like
people think that food grows in a
grocery store and it was shocking to me
to realize that this wisdom that our
grandparents all had they knew how to
farm the land they all knew even today
girls women don't even know how to cook
forget like to grow the food they're
like oh I don't cook like I'm achieving
like a career and I'm like so we're all
just a bunch of welfare recipients you
don't even know what agricultural Zone
you're in you don't even know what grows
in your soil outside so these are the
things that I encourage with my work
like get off of welfare like we're all
on welfare in some regard right learn
how to grow food so that if something
happens you know what to do actually
make sure that you're Gathering books
with true knowledge that you can pass
down to to your children like your
parents could go out and just like grab
a plant my Grandad used to do this when
I had like a cut or a burn he knew he
knew the plants that were around that
could fix something and I I think that's
that truly is the only way that you can
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and when you say something like learn
how to make your own food or grow your
own food hunt what are the odds that you
think something so catastrophic happens
that that becomes
necessary I think the odds are always
High I mean but that's the problem is we
don't have a memory of Hard Times our
grandparents did you know you you a
couple Generations ago this these are
things that you're your grandparents
would have never allowed to happen
because they lived through hard times
you know you had grandparents that never
even put cash in a bank because they
they' lived through a time where there
was a collapse and you've had the
grandparents who always kept hand foods
and stashed up on food because they they
know that that can happen and so yeah I
would say I have an apocalyptic mind it
was definitely a reason that I married
my husband because I liked that my
husband could hunt talking about that
traditional masculinity right like can
you go outside and fish and Hunt if the
answer is no what are you doing if
there's no food like are like what's
your plan here I get that you have like
a nice Rico Suave suit and you work on
Wall Street but like you're pathetic I I
can't I always
say I evaluate my friends I'm like would
they be in our apocalyptic tribe what
could they bring to the
table sorry that that nice uh Wall
Street suit isn't GNA cut it we actually
don't need you here in the forest um you
know you you do you do you have a
science mind and the answer for most
people is no they know nothing about
anything because they just were relying
on the experts they don't know basic
science so it's it has been a very
empowering process for me to realize how
little I knew despite the fact that I
achieved two college degrees I know no I
knew nothing and I made an effort to
learn things that actually matter like
how to survive on your own women don't
know how to sew Stitch nothing the Amish
I've got it all figured out you got to
need some Amish
neighbors I assume the things that you
say you say because you believe that
they are accurate and oftentimes even
just common sense so why do you think it
is that people find you or so many
people find you
controversial I think I am controversial
because I think it's controversial to
think now like to have an opinion to ask
questions is really controversial I was
actually just speaking about this on my
podcast even if you look at old media
pieces from let's call it 20 years ago
you were allowed to think people were
allowed to present theories like go
watch the old Oprah shows it's it's
incredible the people that she would
have on today she would be called Alex
Jones like she could never host those
same shows today we've grown
increasingly authoritarian as a society
and there's sort of been this
implicit nod that you know you should
only let the experts do the thinking and
you should just do the remembering and
I've never been wired that way like I've
always
been I I wouldn't even say contrarian
but I don't like arbitrary Authority
which is to say you need to actually
give me an explanation and I would like
to process your explanation and see if I
accept that explanation before I just
mandate that into my
life now um you've warned people against
taking a black pill and not believing
anything so what what process do you use
to figure out what is
true well it depends on what the subject
is sometimes I am not necessarily saying
this person is completely wrong I always
should say to people even when you hear
something from me you should go conduct
your own research it's very rare
actually I don't think I've ever said to
someone like definitely believe me like
I think probably the most controversial
thing I do is I did a series called The
Shot in the Dark which is about vaccines
and that was just a big no-o before
covid I was doing this before covid hit
and people really did sort of just trust
the doctors because they're doctors I
give them the information I give them
the links I show them where I'm learning
and I always invite them to learn with
me you know so
I'm um you know for that particular
series just to jump into that it was
actually quite stunning how much money
it cost me to be able to access the
studies and the medical information like
there's an entire cartel where if you
want to access a study that's been
published you've got to pay like 20
bucks to even access it which is an
absolute nonsense if you're going to
mandate that everybody take this shot
the information should be free and so I
did that because that was something that
was extremely passionate about and I
paid for all of those studies and I you
know lined it up and said here are the
studies that were actually done here are
the actual numbers you can do this math
yourself so you can at least assess the
risk and not just make a decision for
your child based on well if your child
doesn't do this she's going to die or
your child's going to get polio if you
don't do this that's that's that's just
manipulating people by tactics of fear
and not
logic so one of the things you and I
share a deep and abiding fear of
authoritarian rule one of the things
though that I worry about is the reason
manipulation works is humans are
manipulatable they are always looking
for shortcuts uh there's too much
information coming at them and so they
have to have a rubric for parsing things
and right now we're living in the age of
um influence influencers where it's like
okay I'm going to pick Candice or I'm
going to pick um I mean Fillin the blank
and they're going to be the person that
I trust to do the thinking for me how in
a world where they're so many narratives
to Think Through what are the base
assumptions that you would have somebody
use if they had to formulate their own
opinions knowing that they're not going
to have time to do the research that you
do yeah so going back to the shot in the
dark uh series because that's kind of
probably like I said the most
controversial one of the first things
that I say to them is just your your gut
instinct actually matters it matters you
have a gut instinct for a reason I I
call that the god Instinct right there's
something that tells you when there's
somebody across the street that looks
like they're up to no good and you kind
of cross the street and you kind of
there's just something that comes online
I think as a parent where you're like I
don't think I should be doing this and
it's incredible for the mothers and
fathers who have follow the series how
they kept saying like I wasn't
comfortable with the amount of shots
that my children were getting but then I
had a doctor kind of doing this I say
don't ignore that you know if you want
to miss this next appointment for your
child to get a shot because you you're
not sure take a second and try to figure
out why you're feeling that so I very
much Believe in Us all having having a
Basic Instinct when it comes to danger
and I always say to them sort of the
second thing is when you raise the fact
that you're not sure how are you being
spoken to and you find within the
vaccine industry it is n it's nasty I
mean they they speak to parents like
they're stupid uh they it's completely
authoritarian it's not oh yeah no I
totally understand what you're saying
here let me give you the information so
you can read it I want you to here's an
easy access page where you can you can
see the studies that were done I
completely understand you're a
first-time parent it's and many times
it's anger and it's actually the
majority of the times the doctors will
will say to a parent well you know if
he's not going to get the vaccine your
child can't go here and that then leads
you to the ne the next gut instinct
which is wait a second did you take the
hypocritic oath aren't you supposed to
be like wanting to to save life you're
telling me that if I don't do this
according to your schedule you're
telling me every child is supposed to be
the exact same like one size fits all
and if I don't do it according to your
schedule you won't even let my child go
here I'm not talking about parents that
don't want to do the vaccines I'm
talking about parents that are like I'd
like to do this on a slower schedule
because you know I don't feel
comfortable about this many toxins at
once so I would say that those things
for me I always say that really matters
right because if information is real and
what they're telling you is honest
you're you're not treated like you're an
imbecile you're not treated like you're
a slave who's speaking to to a master
and that process of sharing information
is
collaborative and so that for me um is
kind of what I would say I think that's
what I always highlight and underscore
to them is that when something is real
and it actually exists it doesn't feel
threatened by you asking a question
basic question and I see a study how
many kids die of this how many um you
know when did we start giving the shot
why did we start what is the history of
this shot and the truth is is that a lot
of times the pediatricians act that way
because they don't know the answer
either that's they don't learn and I
have friends that are doctors and they
say we don't actually learn this in
school we just learn this is what you
give the child and here's what you say
if the Parents try to defy it
so and when you're thinking through
something like that that has huge
consequences um is there a you have the
gut instinct you feel like something is
wrong you present the data you're
getting feedback from them that doesn't
feel right is it go seek a second
opinion
is it um go do research um do you have a
set of follow along questions that you
encourage people to ask so that they can
solve a novel problem that they've never
encountered
before yes so to go back into how I got
into the vaccine thing I was actually
injured from a vaccine uh and I thank
God for that I was injured from the
gardisil vaccine when I was about 19 or
20 years old I had a seizure in the
office with the doctor doctor sort of
freaked out yeah yeah it was a mini
seizure so it was nothing uh thankfully
it was nothing that had long lasting
effects passed out in the office and I
share that on my first episode I share
them I want you to even know why I'm
saying this to you because I always like
to lay out my biases which the media
never does you know they never sayy I'm
getting paid from Big Pharma or a doctor
never says hey actually we get Kickbacks
for every child that completes the
vaccine schedule on time I get a $40,000
check that's also real nobody talks
about their incentives so I always I
always want to lay out mine right away I
was vaccine injured here's how I ended
up on this journey um I trusted the
doctor blindly they said this was going
to stop me from getting ovarian cancer
uh from HPV I knew nothing about I had
never even heard of HPV that was a very
new STD at the time it wasn't one of the
ones that we learned about in high
school and I got this shot had this
reaction got up and realized I knew
nothing and I just trusted a doctor and
when I did my research and I learned
first and foremost that HPV clears up
97% of the time all by itself and then I
researched the rates of I can't remember
if it's ovarian or cervical cancer I
think it's um o ovarian cancer that they
say that it leads to and then I
researched the rates of ovarian cancer
extremely low like it's actually like a
rarer form of cancer that has a very
high has a higher survival rate and then
I researched to see since they started
mandating this HPV vaccine you know have
we dealt with this particular type of
cancer no actually that type of cancer
has increased and so I just did the math
on all of it and I wasn't using any
Shady websites I was I was using you
know cancer.org whatever the main
websites are and I just presented them
with those statistics and realized I
made a decision where if the doctor had
given me all this information as opposed
to you're this will stop you from
getting cancer which wasn't even an
honest portrayal of the facts he
probably was getting some sort of a
kickback that was a new vaccine I would
have made a different decision I just
didn't have the information so when I
present that I tell them my backstory I
show them all of these websites my one
of the things that I always swear on
that particular series like my promise
to the followers is I'm never I'm not
going to use a shady website I'm not
going to find this in a Reddit feed I'm
not going to find it on a back Channel
I'm going to show you the statistics
that are being presented on the CDC
website and I'm going to show you how to
realize when they're manipulating these
statistics like when they're applying it
globally versus in America that stuff
matters right obviously because if you
live in a place that doesn't have basic
Sanitation
it's not a big shock that you're going
to have certain diseases like sanitation
wipes out certain diseases basic like
being able to flush a toilet and wash
your hands can change
circumstances um and I'll show them the
index like the oecd index like these are
countries that actually live like us and
so we could this is actually a fairer
comparative analysis and I always say
like I'm not telling you what to do I
just don't want you to be like me and
make a decision without having
information and once you have that
information you feel like you can
actually have a conversation with your
doctor right so then you can actually go
to the quote-unquote expert and say you
know actually the the cervical cancer
rates have gone up since the shot was
and 97% of HPV clears up on its own and
and then you're having a conversation
you don't feel like you're being you
know bullied into the situation and um
or feel like you're being left out of
the conversation so I'm not into I'm not
in the business of trying to compete
with the medical industry I'm just
trying to provide parents like an entry
way so they can ask basic questions and
or or know basic facts before they
introduce something into their body
which I think is a right you
know so when I look at how complicated
the world is the the thing underlying
the questions that I'm asking now are I
people need when I was growing up for
instance you just believed that the
experts knew what they were talking
about that they had your best interest
at heart that they had done the research
uh Co happens and their covid plus
social media plus the Twitter files all
of that begins to break this sense of I
can trust what people are telling me
that they do have my best interests at
heart and it starts fragmenting into
things like uh the government is lying
to you because they want to control you
um they're censoring you through social
media but not being honest about it um
there's all of these base assumptions
about the way that the world is that
begin to fall apart and do you think
that the world has always been like that
and nobody ever had our best interest at
heart or has something actually changed
recently and that's why it's it's just
we're now seeing it because it's only
happening
now well again that would that answer
would depend on what what topic we're
talking about if you're talking about
the medical industry on the basis of the
research that I have done I would say it
has always been I'm talking about
vaccines there's always been an industry
of lies that relies on fear I I believe
that from the bottom of my heart and the
fact that I say okay I'm just a parent
for a doctor that writes a piece and
says this is dangerous misinformation
and I offer them the opportunity to come
on my show and debate everything I'm
saying like I'm not here to say I don't
believe in not having conversation it's
the exact opposite in fact I think that
a big reason why my audience trusts me
so much is because I have the humility
to admit when I'm wrong I've many times
pivoted on positions and said okay I
reported on this yesterday and then
actually this person showed this and
this was this was actually wrong so I
want to update that when it comes to the
medical industry and and obviously you
saw this during Co but I was doing the
series before Co when Joe Rogan said hey
let's I'll have you on the podcast
you're saying that I'm spreading covid
misinformation and you're a doctor why
don't you speak to this guy who you're
saying has gone Fringe Dr Robert Malone
and their answer is no this is the
science the science is settled well that
should let you know that it's it's not
science right because like if you're
telling me that we can't challenge it
and we can't you can't explain it and
sit next to somebody and say hey let me
tell you why that's inaccurate or I see
that that study that you pulled up um
maybe you're reading it wrong they don't
want to do that and there's a reason for
that because in my in my viewpoint
particularly on the vaccine injury
industry it has been about profits from
the very beginning and there are so many
lies and Mis
representations and and coverups you
know some of it is the government made a
mistake I mean as an example one of the
biggest things that people believe is
that you know we eradicated polio
because of vaccines that is objectively
false uh when we had the huge polio
outbreak and I don't have my notes in
front of me I I want to say this was in
the 1930s or 40s 1940s I believe the
second huge polio outbreak it actually
what it was was that diagnostically
they were counting anything even if it
was temporary paralysis as polio what
was causing so many kids to have tempor
paralysis is that they were spraying
them with DDT poisoning if you go and
you look at what they didn't know
obviously at the time that DDT they were
spraying everything from the apples to
the animals they were also becoming
paralyzed to the children were spraying
them with DDT and then what they did was
they stopped spraying kids with DDT and
then they diagnostically changed
definition of polio they got way more
specific as they did with covid right um
and the numbers completely plummeted
they re uh recategorized it into many
different things one of it being Gan bar
syndrome and they don't tell you this
stuff and I just show people the videos
hey here are the videos here's what DDT
DDT poisoning does here are the actual
because Daily Mail did a whole piece
showing how they just were spraying
children in pools and it's it's just
dishonesty you know when you can control
the definitions and I'll show them an
actual book of a person who exposed that
and doctors and I'll give them all of
the books I always provide links so they
can learn about this themselves if you
eradicated polio and vaccines really did
it and you're a doctor and canice is
spreading dangerous misinformation
wouldn't the first thing you'd want to
do would be to come on this show when I
give you an open invitation you know I
don't want to harm people and it's also
the Instinct that tells me as well when
and that was something that I said to
parents as a mother you would do
anything for your kids you have
I mean hundreds of thousands of mothers
that are taking to the streets from
different backgrounds right you got
different races different backgrounds
different uh socioeconomic classes all
saying the same thing my kid was fine
until this what incentive does a does a
mother have to join a protest you're
treated like a pariah when you're antia
you're telling me they just doing this
for attention holding photos of their
children who they say were injured
children who they say who they said died
and then you know people personally who
went through this whose children were
advancing and then got a shot and then
were never the same and so it's the the
tremendous gaslighting on top of it now
that I am a parent it's it's it's insane
to say to a parent well your child was
always like that and then you I know
they were laughing and giggling and
making eye contact and suddenly they're
not but that was just like something
genetically that went off and and that
is why it's even more important to me
that parents get educated about these
decisions that they're making because
big farmer will hold your hand to get
you to take the thing but if something
happens to your child they'll just stop
answering your phone calls they they'll
totally Gaslight you and tell you that
they had nothing to do with it that the
nine shots that you brought them in for
has nothing to do with it so I mean
that's where I come from and again if I
was shutting down speech and I was
saying don't speak to your doctors and I
was saying don't ever have a debate
about it then I would recommend my
audience stop listening to
me so when I hear stuff like that the
thing that makes me nervous is you're
taking something uh I think you prize
gut instinct in a way that I for
instance don't I'm just one guy so
whatever but um you have said I left the
mega church of science
behind what do you replace that with
though because the thing that scares me
is going like I get it I think people
should be able to ask questions and what
freaked me out during covid was when
they were shutting people down that were
asking questions and my thing is hey a
assume that the vast majority of the
people asking questions are wrong and
dumb but you still need to let these
ideas be challenged otherwise we're
never actually going to be able to find
out what's true but what I worry about
is that we'll start playing fast and
loose with this feels right and because
the science has lied has tried to
silence people that now we're just what
alcohol shooting from the hip with my
gut tells me something's wrong my gut
tells me that vaccines don't work but
what do you replace like if you don't
have faith in science how do we validate
our
instincts yeah so I want to be clear
when I say that I've left the mega
church of science what I mean by that is
for many people it has become a blind
faith and they
will disregard everything that they're
seeing and just go okay well Dr fouchy
said it so it must be true that's a
faith I mean that to me that's a part of
the human agenda and I'm I am just not
wired that way regarding saying go with
your gut instinct I don't say just go
with your gut instinct I say don't
ignore your gut instinct right and so if
you're not ignoring your gut instinct
and something says to you I don't feel
comfortable with my child who has just
been out of the womb for three seconds
and I'm being told by a doctor that he
needs the hepb vaccine which hepb is in
an STD that just doesn't that right
there you should instantly go if my
child's going to get he BMS hospital I'm
in the I'm in the wrong Hospital right
and that is the Instinct you hear so
many moms say that like they're just
telling you now your child is born wrong
like they need Vitamin K 3 seconds out
they need a hey they need this they need
that the circumcision whatever it is
your if your gut is telling you that
doesn't feel right listen to that gut
and then find the information like learn
the information and know that what
they're selling you in the hospital like
you shouldn't be making these sorts of
decisions Under Fire and under duress
cuz that's what it is you are under
duress when you have someone that is
saying to you as the pediatrician in the
hospital said to me that my daughter
would die if I didn't get the shot this
shot and I I obviously she had no idea
who I was she was messing with the
complete wrong parent and I I gave her a
lecture I said you know how dare you how
dare you I mean I'm lucky that I'm
married I'm lucky that I'm not a woman
that is vulnerable enough to respond to
that and then said I get very angry and
I walked out of the hospital with my
baby and my beautiful non backed
2-year-old daughter my non-bed
three-year-old son perfectly healthy I
mean the girl I think she didn't even
get so much as a sniffles for the first
year of life I think just despite the
pediatrician but I mean how dare you how
dare you use that language to a mother
she's going to die if you don't do this
that's that's not science that's a
threat and I understand and I explain to
the parents the financial metrics as
well because there are Financial
incentives they do get bonuses on the
basis of what whether or not they
complete your child getting vaccines on
time from the insurance companies that's
problematic and so like I said I'm not a
person that says just go with your gut
at all times but I do say do not ignore
your gut and I do believe and because I
I come from the Church of God that your
gut instinct is divine especially for
mothers there is there is
a spiritual bond and a a and a spiritual
women's intuition you hear people talk
about the women's intuition all the time
and that comes into hyperfocus when you
become a mom like when they say moms
have eyes in the back of their heads
it's like a thing like your child is
always connected to the umbilical cord
and I will say to my husband I just get
a vibe from that person he's what are
you talking about I only it's the vibe I
don't want my K around them like has
done anyt