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La is burning and the Democrats are to
blame even some Dems would have you
believe that Andrew Tate is running the
Trump Playbook as he announces his
candidacy for UK prime minister which
Elon said he's not wrong we'll see more
about that and AI is going to take souls
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all right Drew how we feeling dodging
flaming debris here in La it's Madness
man I thought I was in some type of
apocalyptic movie yesterday the bad news
is you are minus the movie part you're
in the apocalyptic the screens the the
skies were orange there was like ashes
on my car it felt really surreal
thoughts and prayers everybody lost
their home lost fam been so much
displacement so yeah I am very much
being T cheek we got evacuated I was on
my roof spraying things with a hose so
this is Gallows humor folks this is not
me being Blas about it this is crazy uh
to the point where a very good friend of
mine sent me a before and after he lives
in the Palisades his beautiful home and
then literally just ash W like it it is
so startling to see it and he was
traveling so he sent me a text and he
was like everything I have ever owned
except the clothes I am traveling with
is gone and I was just like oh God I
mean that is that is a level of brutal
yeah and when it popped off and L
literally looking out the window we
could see the fire cuz most people were
gone so you weren't here but you could
just see the fire crawling over the hill
like one Hill over uh yeah it was crazy
Lisa was screaming fire like we got to
get out of here honestly when we left it
was like this ain't looking good this
ain't looking good so uh for sure my
heart goes out to everybody absolutely
brutal and to be completely honest I
don't consider us out of the woods yet
so we've got our house today but are we
going to have our house tomorrow I
honestly don't know it is crazy right
now a very very good point so you guys
were impacted by the sunset fire which
we just looked up a couple minutes ago
that is now contained however the
Palisades fire the one that took out
Malibu all the PCH they're still at 0%
with that the fire wor fire in La
history this is crazy dude when you zoom
out and see how much of the Palisades
was destroyed it's crazy and to your
point it's still going it's still going
we still haven't solved it and I think
that's let's just start there because I
know there's a lot of there's gonna be a
lot of tweets there's gonna be a lot of
rhetoric there's gonna be a lot of
opinions but like I'm in the middle of a
problem like I don't even know where to
start I don't even know where to go like
just help us process this moment right
now cuz I know it's easy to be emotional
but just where should we start yeah pull
up uh Anna casparian so look she's she's
on an arc right now so people are gonna
say she's switching sides or Whatever
She's Gone full Mega so without getting
into that I just want to talk about this
idea of is this a Democrat problem or or
not so her tweet goes like this uh in
fact we'll just uh skip to the bottom
you want to radicalize people against
the modern democratic party send them to
La so this is in reference to the fires
just doing everything wrong uh and the
it'll be up on your screen so you can
read the full tweet if you want but uh I
think blaming a political party is the
wrong play Thinking about the ideology
that tends to be embodied by current
parties that's reasonable uh so what I
want people to understand is if you boot
out Karen bass or you boot out Gavin
Nome but you replace them with somebody
that has the same ideology you're going
to end back up in the same position and
so the right way to think about this
moment or any moment is whatever a
system yields that's the design of the
system now it may not have been
intentional I'm not saying that they
have intentionally designed California
to burn but the way that they have
designed the system the way the choices
that they have made not clearing out the
underbrush not doing controlled Burns
throughout the year not allowing uh for
the capture of more water something to
do with the uh Smelt fish I think
because it wants like a certain mix of
freshwater and salt water like this
really weird concoction so I don't I
don't know the nitty-gritty of that but
what I do know is that the way that the
system is working now La Burns and burns
and burns and you said something before
we started rolling that thought was
really on point which is guys at some
point when you three years ago was the
worst year ever then the year after that
is even worse and now this year is even
worse than and that at some point you
just have to say this isn't working and
so that's what freaks me out is anybody
that's a longtime listener of this show
will have heard me bang on and on and on
about you need a kpi by which you judge
the way that you have built the system
to see if the system is actually serving
what you want so getting in a Twist
about uh the way that Karen bass cut the
fire department budget um probably not
the right way to think about this
problem people are looking at the data
and saying she didn't cut it it was
reallocated or whatever that they
actually have a huge budget and all that
great let's say that that's true in fact
run the thought experiment she didn't
change the budget at all California's
still burning yeah so that's where you
have to go it doesn't matter whether
she's smart or dumb what matters is the
system isn't working and if people are
doubling down because the the one
question that was asked of Karen bass
that I thought was absolutely bang on
was do you think your leadership has
been effective now the only answer to
that question is no because I have not
yielded the result that I want because
the result that she wants I I have to
believe to the core of my existence she
wants a healthy thriving La she just
disagrees on how we get there cool I
will give her that but it's not working
and so if you can't stop and look at
that and say hey this isn't working you
have a problem and we have a modern
political environment where that would
be suicide now there's a phenomenal um
look at and I forget what book this is
in forgive me for give me everybody but
the idea will carry that when you look
at JFK and how how he spoke about what
happened in the Bay of Pigs he owned it
and was like Hey ultimately the buck
stops with me and he became more popular
as a result now that wouldn't happen
today you get eaten alive because
everybody wants to be tribal and so the
right is going to look for a way to just
assassinate her character if she allows
a clip of her saying this was my bad
done career over finished so we no
longer have an environment where
somebody can just own yep that was a
mistake we're not getting the result
that we want and adjust and so uh this I
don't want to fractal too much but
people treat you exactly the way you let
them treat you this is why Trump can get
away with saying crazy [ __ ] and it's
just like ah it's another Trump thing uh
and you would never let another
politician talk the way that he talks if
they changed Midstream but if they build
their career around it you can get away
with it anyway the right way to think
about this is whatever the system yields
is the design is the effective design of
that system again not necessarily the
intentional design
so where we have to plant a flag is is
people have got to be able to say what
kpi they're steering by and they've got
to say what they prioritize first as far
as I can tell and I've not done a deep
dive on this as far as I can tell what
we're running into is people are not
willing to say anymore humans are my
number one priority and so we get this
weird conflict with smell matter okay
I'm not even saying that they don't
matter but I am saying very aggressively
tomilu dances they don't matter as much
as humans and so if to protect all this
incredible stuff that we've built if we
can't bump them down in the priority
list and say hey we know what's coming
with these fires it is it has become
obscenely predictable and this is why
Trump banging on at Nome about dude you
need to do something about this we know
it's just going to keep happening and
keep happening and keep happening he's
been saying it for years man so there's
no surprise
here we have to be able to say yep
humans are our number one priority let's
say that uh acreage burned or uh um
human lives lost or property damage or
whatever that's our kpi and oh year
after year this is getting worse okay
then we have to adjust our system such
that it yields that kpi that we all want
and I really think this is born of the
current battle between left and right
and again the way you have to think
about this is the you need the left and
the right thinking and it breaks very
simplistically very simplistically it
breaks to the people on the left from an
evolutionary standpoint are all about
compassion which you need to get a whole
bunch of people to cooperate together to
to be the incredible uh human nature
that we see unfolding building these
incredible civilizations you also need
the right which from an evolutionary
standpoint says if you only have the
left you only have compassion you only
want to unite everybody and make
everybody feel good you get What's
called the free writer problem and so
people will begin to take advantage of
that system and so to hold that at Bay
you need personal responsibility people
who are like no you're living your life
like a [ __ ] I'm going to let you rot
that sounds [ __ ] terrible and that's
exactly why in a modern context the left
has become so popular is because in a
time of Plenty like what we're living in
now in a time of security like we're
living in right now you can get away
with it for a really long time and then
as the right is so fond of saying you
will eventually get punched in the mouth
by reality and so what we're seeing now
is when you vaguely prior because I'm
not saying everyone's sitting like the
smell that's all we care about and smel
are number one but when you sort of
vaguely are like well the smels are as
important and you never Define your
priorities now all of a sudden LA's
burning there's no uh water pressure to
the fire hydrants uh we did not do the
things that we needed to do to build up
the surplus of water because we just got
rained on like never before I mean
record rainfall over the last eight
months or whatever and yet here we are
with LA burning so that is an ideology
problem that has come to roost that does
not have kpis that people are
benchmarking against say enough is
enough and so I again I don't get
excited when I see people saying that
this is a Democrat problem it's not it's
an ideology problem and the Democrats as
fast as anybody else could say look we
want to be as compassionate as humanly
possible up to the point at which it
diminishes the kpis that we all agreed
are the most important and then we can
have the debate at the level of I don't
think that's the right kpi or I don't
think you have the right value system
cool but now we're having the battle at
the level that it actually matters
because all of our
systems procedures budgeting is all
going to be Downstream of the thing that
we have agreed that we value and that
we're projecting this kpi will be
positively influenced by having these
values if you do it tribally it just all
becomes scoring points and we never get
the change we want no I love that and I
think the important part is making
ideology the focus it kind of removes
all the distractions that some of these
other arguments are because yes $17.6
million into the budget could have gone
a long way not going to say that that
would have helped the 15,000 Acres that
went up or the you know you can't one
for one that I can't say that uh a
budgetary decision that she made eight
months ago is now the reason that we're
in this mess now you can't say that
because she's a woman because she's not
a straight white male that Dei is the
reason that God is here and all these
things like that comma however when you
go to the Smelt fish and the things like
that it's like yes the Environmental
Protections are something that the
Democrats do champion and this is an
example of like okay I'm sorry smelt
maybe we do kill a couple thousand in
order to never have La burn again but
then now we have no brush now we have a
reservoir system now we don't have to do
this again and it's just it's
frustrating to me because last year we
were talking about this the year before
we were talking if this was a once in a
generation thing like the thing that
happened in Canada they went up on fire
I didn't hear anything for 10 years then
another fire happened okay cool I get
that you're not prepared but this is not
new this is a yearly thing at at some
point you have to stop so yeah I think
people have to embrace cause and effect
cause and effect everything is a
trade-off so we are witnessing the
trade-off of prioritizing the
environmental concerns I'm not saying
that the environmental concerns aren't
real I'm not saying that they don't
belong on the priorities but I am saying
if you're not willing to say the
edifices of uh civilization are more
important the and um longterm so
obviously you can't just eliminate uh
every animal that that would be its own
hellscape so this is a balance it is
extremely nuanced but unless you're
having that discussion where you're
willing to say human life the uh
edifices of civilization the creation of
wealth those are the things that matter
to us the most and we want the friction
between the left and the right because I
want people standing up for the smelt I
want people standing up for Ecology 100%
I want people standing up for the
environment but when it becomes taboo to
challenge that when it becomes taboo to
say hey the way we rock is humans are
the top of the food chain people aren't
willing to say it man and we have to go
the way that we make decisions now has
yielded this outcome if you don't change
the way that we make decisions we will
continue to yield this outcome until
you're having that conversation you're
going to death
Loop you can't keep doing the same thing
and expect different results definition
of insanity 100% And then if we go to
Trump's tweet Trump had some Choice
words uh for Gavin Newsome all right
Donald Trump this will be up on your
screen but uh gavor or sorry Governor
Gavin new scum never missing an
opportunity to dig our boy Trump uh
refused to sign the water restoration
declaration put before him that would
have allowed millions of gallons of
water from excess so this is the same
thing he's been banging on he's been
calling this out now what I find
interesting about this that we haven't
already talked about is that I don't
think Trump gets credit for really being
in the Weeds on this stuff and look he
talks loose and fast I get it he gives
people the ability to discredit him just
by by the way that he'll say everything
is the greatest of ever you know all
time whatever just it's always the
greatest it's always the worst whatever
it's just this very hyperbolic language
often to his benefit uh but like the
more I look at him the more I'm
like he really is in the Weeds on this
stuff like he understands it better than
people give him credit for and so like
anything the way I want people to view
the world is all of us are Ai and we're
giving you one strong sincere lens on
what we believe is true now politicians
are a different breed so you really got
to be careful with whether they're being
sincere or not but uh Trump does know
the details he's going to get things
wrong for sure but he's not like at
30,000 foot in the way that look Biden
has as far as I can tell Advanced
cognitive decline so take that with a
grain of salt but when you hear him talk
about things like bro do you do you know
what day it is so Trump's not in that
vein like he's he's died into the um at
at a minimum the the real detailed gist
of the problem even if he can't give you
the exact stats yeah that because
honestly he's the one who put the smell
on my radar that made me kind of have to
go and do my independent research and
like okay he actually he he he got this
one right um and it's very interesting
because we do get caught up in his
language and his extremes but he's not
wrong this was all on the table this was
an option they took they took the
environmental option and then now we are
in the mess that we are today and I want
to be very clear about at least what I
think he wasn't wrong about what I think
he wasn't wrong about is it is knowable
what causes these fires there is a thing
that you can do about it and dear Gavin
um Nome you're not doing those things
and it is going to have dramatic
consequences and so now here we are
we're witnessing the consequences and
you don't get to go oh my gosh this is
crazy who could have ever thought or oh
my gosh this is crazy we knew it was
coming but yeah that's just the the
tough break of being in La it's like
dude humans are so Innovative if you
create a regulatory environment where
people can actually solve these problems
they will actually solve these problems
and by the way shout out to my boy Peter
diamandis who has an xprize going for
wildfires nice so H man don't I wish
that that had already been won so that
we could have addressed this but um yeah
creating the space for that Innovation
requires sensible regulation yeah and
then last thing about the fires I have
to give it up to shth I think he
probably had the Tweet of the night
that's the next step
uh shth poaa let's go why pay 0% in
Nevada Texas or Washington where you
have school choice and water in the
hydrants when you can pay 16% in
California and have neither that is uh
nice and sarcastic yeah uh I have to say
that one hurts the the amount that I've
paid in California state tax is rough
it's got a lot of commas and zeros uh so
when you look out and you see the world
on fire it people are going to ask that
question what exactly am I paying for
I'm I'm telling you there's going to be
a time where the bill comes due and I
don't know if this fire did it I don't
know if we need another year or two but
there is going to be a rectifying
California moment where we have to look
in the mirror and say okay guys y'all
take half what are we doing like what
are we actually doing cuz I can
understand if the schools were number
one I can understand if it was sunshines
and rainbows but there's still a
homeless guy outside my house that my
Hills the hills are burning the rich
people are homeless now like who's
winning like who's the like who's the
oligarch that's like haah I'm like
nobody's doing good right now well it's
interesting you bring that up cuz people
are going to say it's the I forget their
names but the people that own the
wonderful company oh that control the
water all the water in current count the
bad news who do they fund like crazy the
Democrats it's nuts when you look at the
ratio of donations from the billionaire
class it's not to the Republicans man
it's to the Democrats when did that
happen look people have done exposes on
that so I asked that somewhat factiously
because we know it's all detailed go
look it up uh but yeah it switched at
some point where the Democrats became uh
captured by the donor class and not the
Republicans which is crazy it's crazy
but I hate to say it follow the money
and it's like if the Dems are like hand
over fist getting money from the
billionaire class that tells you
something about who's protecting who
it's crazy it's crazy now I'm a headline
reader about the wonderful company and
the water so people need to do their own
due diligence on that tweet had the
whole expose so if you guys want more
about that please fact she was
responding to it I think somebody was
saying no no no this isn't the Democrats
this is the the billionaire oligarchs
which I will again Point people at they
disproportionately give to Democrats do
the billionaires despite our boy uh Elon
Musk who tries to really make up for it
is a oneman band uh so yeah it's very
interesting again thoughts and prayers
everybody affected by the fire we just
hope we can figure this out because this
is this is a rough one no joke man look
I don't believe in God so I can never
say thoughts and prayers but uh for real
for real this is gut-wrenching so we
actually have people staying with us now
who've lost their homes in the fires uh
and so I have in the last 24 hours watch
somebody cry over my entire childhood
neighborhood doesn't exist anymore and
so imagine I look there is something
weird about the way that humans are so
tied to like this is a piece of my
history but imagine not being able to
show like your kids where you grew up
because it just doesn't exist anymore it
literally burned to the ground it's that
it is devastating on a level that would
be hard to explain like my wife and I
hope she doesn't mind me sharing this so
far which is all I will give it so far
we have not lost our house and she's
like really unnerved like can cry about
it at the drop of a hat of just what it
felt like yesterday to look out the
window and you just see this wall of
Fire coming over the hill seemingly
straight towards your house uh and being
like whoa I am completely helpless to
stop this and the panic and she's
grabbing the dogs and you know we had
very few people here yesterday but just
like everybody we got to get out right
now I mean she was like proper panicked
and uh that somebody said that La is a
traumatized City right now and I thought
wow that's actually really true like
being in it I know I'm being jokey but
this really is Gallo's humor this is my
way of dealing with a very stressful
situation uh I think a lot of people are
really really struggling emotionally
just knowing that the threat is looming
like where do you go somebody was asking
me like where are people going to go and
there in the Palisades there are people
of all economic strata so this isn't
just a it's like oh rich people [ __ ]
them this is everybody yeah I going to
say 180,000 were in the evacuation like
it's it's a ridiculous amount of people
so we're praying for you on the other
side of the pond praying for you I'm
giving you thoughts sorry I wish I could
I would if I could he'll handle the
thoughts I'll take care of the prayers
nice Drew I'm thoughts your prayers come
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other side of the pond Andrew Tate has
announced he's throwing in his hat for
British pm he established the BR party
Britain's restoring underlying values
wow I love itet but all right I'm here
for um I want to know how you feel but I
think there's one thing that he said
that really jumped out to me that with
me running whether I win or not it's
going to force you to address the issues
in the
country yes that's interesting and I
think that was a part that Elon said
he's not wrong about that I think
there's something even more interesting
which is he is running the Trump
Playbook I don't remember who it was
that first said this but I found this
very compelling that Trump would have
ridden off into the sunset had they not
pursued him legally because he could
have said the election was stolen I've
never lost anything in my life um and
just gone and retired and been rich and
golfed and all that stuff and because
they pursued him so doggedly he realized
the only way for me to get out from
under this political persecution is to
become president and I can shut it down
and so you've got now um Tate doing the
same thing saying okay I'm you guys are
obviously coming after me this is his
take not mine I don't know enough about
it to know one way or the other but you
guys are coming at me so hard that I
realize now that I have to take a
position of that kind of power in order
to get above this and here here is the
reality I want people to really think
about this because I think the last call
it 20 to 30 years have lulled people
into the wrong sense of security that
just like with antibiotic iotics if you
give people antibiotics you will create
antibiotic resistant bacteria because
what happens is you kill most of them
you don't kill all of them and the ones
you don't kill are [ __ ] strong they
are hard or near impossible to break
they've got money they've got Fame
they've got intellect and they will
fight you they won't back down and it is
not going to be as easy to break them as
you think it is and so we are now
getting a um politically resistant class
of people you've got Trump you've got
Elon you've got the Tates and I'm sure
dozens or hundreds of other people that
have the [ __ ] you money that are willing
to say [ __ ] you that are now going to
just come out in force that are going to
like musk is they're going to fund the
reverse da so if Soros was you know
doing it for God knows how many decades
in One Direction they're going to start
doing it in the other direction they're
going to say come at me with everything
you got and I'm just going to keep
pushing myself to get bigger and go
farther and I think people are really
underestimating there is a certain type
of particularly not even going to couch
it there's a certain type of guy he is
not going to be [ __ ] with and he will
go down hacking slash dude do people not
read history you will run into the
modern equivalent of gangas Khan homie
did not [ __ ] play when you read about
these people it's like whoa whoa whoa
wait a second humans are capable of that
yes do dude you get these ultra bright
people who are psychotically driven they
are very good at rallying other people
around them and they are effective dude
say what you will about genghiskhan and
he was evil but godamn he was effective
that guy could lead and he could fight
and so you're going to see that class of
people rise up and you're just making
them Stronger by killing more and more
of the weak people this is how I feel
about the inner cities slight tangent
but when you see that problem up close
you realize oh this thing breaks almost
everyone that it touches but holy [ __ ]
every now and then you get somebody who
escapes it and they are so good and so
talented they overshoot the mark by A
Thousand Miles I want 50 Cent on the
show so badly because he is a modern
version of this where man they tried
they in like the generic sense of uh
yeah you put people in poverty it'll
break them except every now and then you
get somebody that just is resistant to
that and they come out hard and fast so
yeah I would say this is a bad strategy
stop running it even though it works on
the vast majority of humanity you were
just making a lot of very smart very
aggressive very aggressive men mad and
they are going to arm up I don't mean
literally with weapons but they're going
to arm up with power with influence with
money they're going to put that [ __ ] to
use and you will have broken their
desire to be conciliatory and that's
what you're seeing in Trump that's what
you're seeing in musk that's what you're
seeing in Tate and again probably dozens
and dozens and dozens of people that I
just don't know about 100% I think it
it's swinging the other way so where
cancer culture cancel culture was trying
to make everybody play nice there's now
this revolution uprising like no I am a
man and do what I want and I say these
things and the fact that Tate used that
for his claim to fame went through three
trials he's still kind of not out of the
water Romania is still Prosecuting him
he's still stck there so he's not just
you know fully extradited citizen but he
keeps knocking him down yeah but he
keeps winning he keeps surviving he
keeps getting it out so it's like you're
you're you're poking the Bear in that in
that sense and eventually you run out of
options you have to Bight back you have
to fight the system and this is another
one where Tate I think would have been
happy to just be a rich influential guy
but people were like he's the P Piper
he's leading my son astray we got to
[ __ ] crush this
guy man if people would just do it with
ideas just do it with better ideas show
me a better version of what you want and
let his either his life and lifestyle
are bad and will yield bad consequences
and people will see that over time
because you defeat him with good ideas
uh or don't touch it but when you try to
do this behind the scenes hammering
people using banking systems and Deb
banking people and persecution and all
that and again if he's doing horrible
sex trafficking things he should go to
prison for it
but if I understood correctly the reason
the Romanian government dropped the most
recent version of the case was because
the judge said there are so many
irregularities in the way that you guys
have brought this case I can't move
forward with this which I read as you
guys did so much [ __ ] that was illegal
trying to like crush this guy down we
can't move forward with this and so I
don't know if they did that because
there's nothing there I don't know if
they did that because they thought [ __ ]
this guy we just have to take him down
so fast and so hard that we send a
message to the world uh but either way
bad mojo and yeah you're going to see
this backlash now one last piece of this
puzzle that I think is important to put
in place is young men have a
nature you're having a biological
experience I really want people to get
that 50% of us so science says is
hardwired it's unchangeable and that
means that uh young women have a nature
young men have a nature old women have a
nature old men have a nature these
things are pretty predictable and when
you create an entire generation or
multiple generations of these young men
whose nature is to be aggressive to seek
status to try to impress women to gain
access to resources uh and sexual access
to females and you tell them that
they're bad they're stupid they're
horrible and you create an environment
where they don't have access to status
they don't have access to um women all
of the sudden they're like and when I
say access to women I mean that they're
able to earn the respect and desire of a
woman okay let me be very clear about
what I mean about that um you have
compressed something down you've tried
to hold this energy down as if it were
only the 50% that's malleable that you
could just calm them down and make them
this neutered version of men it's not
going to work because of the 50% that's
aggressive that seeks so things and
eventually they're going to get a group
of leaders that you couldn't break that
are politically resistant that come out
with all this aggression and that part
of them that that is just hardwired when
they hear that message they're going to
be like yo and they're going to flock to
it which is exactly what we're seeing
and so you can pick your flavor do you
want to see that manifest as a trumpian
character do you want to see that
manifest as a musan character do you
want to see that manifest as a tadian
character pick your flavor but young men
are flocking to all of them yeah do you
think this will be a net positive for
Great Britain Politics as a whole uh
Tate specifically yeah I don't know
let's think about that
uh I think it will be a net positive
that there is somebody representing the
ambitious male I think that is extremely
positive I think it's probably going to
be more positive in the way that Tate
said that this is going to force you to
deal with these issues uh the way that
Tate talk
have I looked at him enough I've looked
at him a fair amount so I would say that
there is enough truth in what Tate is
saying that he is not a character you
should try to
dismiss but there's enough stuff that
makes me uncomfortable in the way that
he acts and behaves that if it were my
son I listening to him I would try to
combat it with better ideas for sure and
by mapping out okay here's why I think
these things that he's saying are
awesome learn how to fight dope love
that be strong dope love that don't let
people push you around don't let anybody
bully you love love love um be strong in
who you are love all of that stuff uh
here are the things that I think are not
so great uh and I would lean into the
the way that he over indexes on
um women are there to do what you tell
them to be uh subordinate to you and I
would I I'm very open to being checked
in the comments because this is where
I've heard enough to be like oh that
gross me out but I haven't dug in deeply
enough to know that I'm using the right
words to represent his position so I'm
very open by all means share with me the
things you think I need to watch um but
I am a big believer that nothing in life
is going to be as advantageous to you as
being a tremendous partner to seeing
yourself as an equal to the woman woman
that you choose to share your life with
to look at it as I'm good at these
things she's good at those things and I
want her to see the value that she has
and so I've heard him say things like if
a woman doesn't do the things that I
want then I'm just on to the next one I
can replace you so fast and all that
stuff and the absolute last thing I
would ever want Lisa to feel feel feel
in Her Bones is that I'm looking to
replace her if she gets out of line
that's going to engender a deep sense of
insecurity in her which is not going to
allow her to bring her best to the
relationship so what I want my woman to
feel so that the relationship can uplift
me and her is that you are my equal we
are good at different things I want to
be honest about what I'm good at what
you're good at and when it's the thing
I'm good at I'm going to tell you hey
this is the thing I'm good at and so
I've heard you I can articulate your
position back to you I don't agree with
you and given that this is a thing that
I'm good at that you acknowledge I'm
better at this thing then where I'm
going to take the leadership role here
and if it's a thing that you do well I'm
not afraid to follow you so that to me
has led to not that to me in my life
that approach has led to a very thriving
emotional relationship a ton of
financial success a marriage that has
lasted over 22 years I mean just a lot
of good
things
so I think it is a more Universal that
when a man man and women come together
they really do form a whole yeah and
that much like the left and the right
need each other a man and a woman need
each other and so when you have that you
are going to be a better version so this
idea of like I could replace you in a
second you're just you're creating
you're undermining them emotionally in a
way that I think is not only detrimental
to them I think it's detrimental to you
now that's my value system I don't need
everybody to adopt it but if you want to
know how I would approach it if it were
my son that's how I would lay out the
arguments of like hey these things are
great this I think is going to cause a
problem for you and for her yeah and I
think it's interesting where we lineate
that line because it's one thing to be
an influencer and you're saying how you
feel but it's another thing to become a
politician and we have our Buon episode
coming out soon where he kind of talks
about strategically you have to carry
that information you have to you don't
just represent yourself you represent a
country you have to think about natural
interest like there's a lot of things
that go into British prime minister than
just I set the budget and I keep the
Border closed and so I understand his
point I understand his his Vigor for
wanting to do this I hope that he brings
a lot of values to the table I hope that
we address and the British people feel
seen and heard and and feel like
somebody's fighting for them but they're
going to need a lot more than bravado
and I just don't want this to be a
Bravado he's the shiny object so he
should win type of like election yeah
that that is very interesting um I think
it's important to say that no politician
is ever going to speak for the body
politics so he's never going to speak
for Britain's I think what he represents
is um what I've been talking about in
terms of
you
can't ignore the result of your system
and so if your system of telling um
young men you guys are bad you're broken
you're this you're that if that made a
Wonderland for everybody including those
young men great but it doesn't and so uh
given that I think he certainly speaks
on behalf of young aggressive males
think he probably over indexes uh on the
aggressive part but um yeah so what I
hope maybe saying what you're saying but
in a slightly different way is uh I hope
we can find somebody who is eloquent
Center
driven unity in temperament but
understands that you don't get Unity by
saying I'm GNA stand way the [ __ ] over
here on the left and you guys are all
going to come to me you say oh I get it
I have these strong feelings over here
on the left but it is the friction
between the left and the right that
actually makes this work and when I look
at the kpis we're not getting the result
that we want in the UK in America and
much of the West Canada for sure uh so
yes we're going to take all of these
issues seriously and we have in
championing this over here call it Dei
call it what you want in championing
this we've gotten results that we don't
want and so something is going to have
to change so to uh elon's point about
he's not wrong about you're going to
need to deal with the issues that I put
forward because I'm so popular that I
think could be beneficial if it lands in
the hands of somebody that's trying to
bring people together so now this one
because I I already I hope compelled
people to believe the a is coming fast
and it's going to be crazy but this I
want people to get how cool some of the
stuff that's coming is this car can jump
now the most important and and when I
say JUMP if you're just listening you're
not watching I don't mean off a ramp I
mean it can literally bounce itself at
speed so while it's driving let's say it
detects a pothole it can bounce over it
or hey if you're uh a real life Fast and
Furious person and there's Road spikes
thrown out in front of you you can jump
over those this is nuts uh but the real
thing I want people to take away is that
you're in a cold war with China whether
you know it or not that car is made by
China and that car looks dope as [ __ ]
that thing is so cool and uh we're
getting our asses handed to us in for
sure
drones maybe Robotics and we've got to
be very careful because Tom is very much
uh an America in Pole Position kind of
guy uh and dude when I see things like
that I'm like uh oh like these guys
aren't for play yeah byd sold more units
than Tesla last year so and they're not
even in the US market yet so that thing
looks cool I'm here for one of those my
car can jump yeah and it looks that is
sex on wheels that car is stunning nuts
nuts now I don't know if it's eight
bazillion dollars which by the way
another thing that came out of uh CES is
the first thing that made me really
consider buying a car is they have that
one that out of the back it's like a six
wheel car and out of the back comes a
flying car it's not technically a car
because it doesn't have wheels but dude
that's crazy and I have to imagine go
something like this you up traffic's too
bad you eject the thing you fly and then
the car just sits in traffic and meets
you at your destination you load it back
up it's self unloading they didn't show
it load back up or I didn't see it but
I'll assume it is so self loading and
unloading dude that is bananas watching
CES this year I was like oh the future
is now now of course the things you see
at CES are probably still call it 18
months to 5 years out uh from like
production but there was some stuff that
I was just like this is awesome I was so
excited man and I know you're excited
about the gaming updates too because I
feel like two or three episodes ago we
were literally talking about putting AI
into Kaizen and seeing how they can
learn and then um Nvidia just announced
that they're doing this with pubg right
now where they're having AI teammates
companions people with imagine that just
like they're just like your friends hey
go over here do this uh that's what they
do you can give them instructions in
fact the better way for me to talk about
this is where it's going to go versus
where it is now because I don't know
enough about all the intricacies of what
it can and can't do right now but the
idea is that you have ai for your
teammates and AI is smart and it learns
and it watches how you play and it
responds to you okay so instead of them
being really dumb AI where like you
point over there and it runs over and it
does exactly what you told it it's way
more Dynamic supposed to be much more
like your real life friends would play
now projecting out into the future where
this goes I guarantee you're going to be
able to assign personalities to the
different players and so like if you
imagine playing a game where it's like
you have that one friend who wants to be
the tank you have another friend that
wants to be the healer but they will
remember the games they played with you
and they will remember when you start
getting shot at you're likely to do this
thing and so they know how to move the
way that you want them to move based on
the way that you play and given
scenarios but things you didn't have to
tell them to do that they just watch you
they figure it out and they're like oh
cool I know how to help this person win
dude it's nuts and the way that AI
learns is it doesn't just learn from you
it's learning from everybody so when you
make an update that thing gets smarter
and so one of the big breakthroughs for
self-driving was realizing you don't you
can't pre-program everything in you give
it a brain you teach it how to learn and
so it's going to be same with these
games that the AI is just going to get
better and better and better and better
and better now one final point on that
ironically what you're actually trying
to do when making AI quote unquote smart
is making the AI dumb because when you
put AI into a game the real problem is
it kills you instantly because it always
knows exactly where you're at it knows
exactly how to get a kill shot it never
misses and so you're trying to make it
more humanlike so I don't mean they'll
get better and better and better to
where you just can't beat them it gets
more more and more lifelike to where it
will pass like a gaming touring test
where you won't know is this player
actually my friend or is this player AI
because it's so
lifelike and that that okay it's
interesting because it's like you want
it to be the perfect companion but it
can't be too perfect so it has to kind
of have that human error kind of like
buff on there did you ever see the movie
Daryl oh my God d a r y L it's an
acronym I don't remember what it stands
for I love this movie so much as a kid
so darl is an Android and he's adopted
by a family and what Daryl ends up
realizing is because I'm perfect my Mom
feels worthless and so I actually I
think his dad has to pull him aside and
say she needs to be needed oh it's such
a brilliant insight into humanity and
it's true we all need to be needed and
so he started doing things imperfectly
and then she felt like oh my God I can
help him oh God it's such a glimpse into
Humanity so yes that's the one so AI
will have to figure that out to make us
really connect to it it's got to have
like those human imperfections it's
fascinating fascinating man all right
2027 that's your prediction I'm writing
it down hold us accountable chat well
let me tell you 2025 is what's really
going to mess with you psychologically
CES just wrapped up this week and we
have plenty of cuddly robots and jumping
cars and high-speed Tech but there was a
very interesting tweet that I wanted to
kind of highlight because I feel like
this went under the radar Salesforce
just announced that they're hiring no
more sales software engineers in
2025 um Salesforce one of the biggest
CRM systems uh one of the biggest B2B
brands in the world no more software
Engineers we're good AI got us you say
you've been banging this AI drum for a
long time now and I'm excited about the
new chips and the processors but I feel
like over here there's some shoes
starting to drop yeah okay okay here's
how everybody should think about ai ai
is like eating healthy fasting and going
to the
gym it is great for you but boy does it
suck and so you first have to go through
that really rough phase of you're
addicted to Sugar your every muscle
hurts when you go to the gym uh you're
having to live a totally different
lifestyle and so your dopamine plummets
and you've got to completely reorient
yourself to getting dopamine from doing
hard things from seeing the physical
transformation and going through that
transition hurt I remember when I was
first trying to go low carb which was
years ago but um I remember getting into
a big argument with Lisa because I was
like if I eat a cookie right now I will
feel better and it was true if I ate the
cookie I would have felt better in that
moment because I was getting a headache
because I was transitioning from burning
sugar to burning um ketones fat and
going through the transition was brutal
but on the other side everything was
better and that's why I say that this is
this is the best time to be alive once
we get on the other side of the
transition it's going to be great but I
really want people to be emotionally
prepared for the transition period so
that they know it's worth getting to the
other side now the reason I say AI is
going to take people's souls in 2025
obviously I'm kidding but only a little
so what's going to happen and I heard
Elon talking about this that even he
the world's most effective man even if
you're not going to say the smartest uh
even he is like I don't know if we're
going to have purpose once AI can do
things better than us 2025 is a year
that it really starts doing that and CES
really brought this home for me because
um Jensen hang hang forget how you
pronounce it uh the CEO of Nvidia he
brought to Market basically a brain
that fits in the palm of your hand and
he said it is a super computer um it's
500 bucks this is a robotics computer
takes sensors and just a Madness amount
of sensor information process it you
know eenp cameras high resolution Radars
Liars they're all coming into this chip
and that thing runs their supercomputing
cloud of AI so now for 500 bucks you can
literally have a brain in your hand I
mean it's just absolutely insane and
when you couple that with this
announcement from Mark benof who just to
be clear didn't say they won't have any
just said they're not going to hire any
new Engineers but that should be scary
enough on its own and that's in 2025
what's that in 2027 which is only two
years away yeah so I can just feel that
this is a year where it just starts to
chip away you this isn't the year that
like um we have artificial super
intelligence and like oh my God we hit
the fast takeoff and you can't recognize
the world in eight months it's not going
to be that but it's going to be a lot of
people doing things like this where yeah
we're not hiring any more Engineers now
imagine just imagine that every large
company did that just imagine if only
50% did that now if you just went to
college for four years to get your
computer science degree and now half of
the largest companies in the world are
not hiring any new engineers that's
going to be dark and that's going to be
hard for people to deal with we're we're
really we're going to lose uh call it
8year generation of people who just
their entire career just got derailed
they never quite made it they never got
senior enough uh in any downturn they're
going to be the first to let go they
can't get a promotion because all the
people ahead of them are are better than
they are first all and are using Ai and
so now you put those together and they
just can't get ahead uh and if you're
not growing the pool of developers then
it really does become a zero sum game
for promotions so it it just starts to
get weird really fast and what people
have to fall in love with then is what
does it do better for me when I can use
the AI because if using the AI becomes
this tremendous unlock now all of a
sudden it's like okay this is the thing
that I'm meant to be excited about is
I'm able to leverage this brain in my
hand instead of I'm being eliminated in
The Thing I thought I was going to do by
this brain in the hand but getting
people to make that switch is really
brutal and before we started rolling you
had brought up this idea of like the
steel workers um and what do we do do we
tell them to code and the reality is
what people are going to have to figure
out is what are they going to do with AI
because if you can get excited about the
thing that you're going to do when you
control a brain in your hand and it is I
mean if people haven't used AI yet and
seen how amazing it is and how much it
can help you it's absolutely incredible
it's really going to just extend
people's abilities incredibly but if you
don't fall in love with that if you
don't get excited about that this is
going to feel very very negative and a
lot of people are going to have a hard
time making that transition um and then
also people need to decouple the idea of
meaning and purpose from the only way I
can get that is through my career I'm
not saying that's going to be easy
that's going to be brutally difficult
but that is what people are going to
have to do I know that the AI change is
coming and everybody is PR like
screaming its Praises I seen one guy go
viral on Tik Tok about how he uses chat
gbt at the grocery store and it's saving
him all this money so I definitely see
the pluses of AI you got me on the wagon
I have a proscription all those things
but this reminds me of the early 2000s
Obama era when we were making that
transition to like green power and wind
systems and they told all the co-workers
it's going to be fine we're going to get
you guys a coding and we're going to
retrain the workforce you guys will be
good but something like this where the
most technically Advanced people the
people that are studying coding studying
computers they're the ones now being
kind of obsolete quote unquote so how do
they get retrained they can't go
backwards and become truck driver like
it doesn't where do people go from here
like what about the who are going to be
the steel workers in this AI Generation
all of us sheesh literally all of us so
okay this is why uh oh man all right so
right now even I really really would not
trade this moment in time for any other
moment in
time it really is going to be difficult
so there are two things that people need
to start looking at number one is the
world is now going to change at a rate
that the human mind is not prepared for
it it's it is going to be too much
there's no way to take that back the
rate of change is going to be too much
and that's going to be hard I think for
everybody and so even me I'm already
rank ordering the things that we do in
the company based on AI risk so what we
call the content what we're doing right
now has the least AI risk because I
think some people are going to uh want
to engage with humans and I think that's
going to be especially in the transition
period that's really going to be big big
big big big and so people are going to
want to interact with a human uh even if
I can't talk about issues as well as an
AI there's going to be a huge SWAT to
humanity that's like [ __ ] AI I don't
want anything to do with it I like Tom
because he's Tom he's real he's a person
he's got a history he grew up Flesh and
Blood cool so least AI risk I won't say
no AI risk but least then we've got the
education what we're doing in Impact
Theory University I can't teach you how
to run a business unless I tell you how
to integrate AI so that's at least
middle level of AI uh risk there uh I
don't know if businesses are going to
become predominant AI now that changes
my focus so we were we started sort of
entry level people that want to go zero
to1 launch their first business called
zero to founder okay cool then we
started thinking actually you know where
we want to put our energy is to people
that have scaled a business because I
can talk in a way that the vast majority
of humanity cannot just because so few
people have built a billion dollar
company uh so we were like oh let's
really lean on that better profit
margins it's something I can do very
uniquely but as I started thinking about
where's the AI risk there I really think
and I think I in the last episode used
the analogy of the shattered glass okay
that's what's going to happen building a
business is no longer going to be this
gigantic Collective effort it's going to
be these really small shards pods fire
teams however you want to think about it
uh and it's going to take very few
people to do really big things which
means there are going to be a lot of
people that get displaced by AI that say
well if nobody's going to hire me then
I've got to hire myself and so I think
we're going to go through this
incredible Boon of people that don't get
emotionally paralyzed they end up
launching their own company so I'm like
I think we need to go back to the zero
to founder the person that wants to
launch a company help them deal with all
the emotional difficulties and
everything of failure and how to do that
well but there's medium AI risk there
and then in the gaming space it it's
catastrophic AI risk so that one is like
oo this in three years could just be so
unrecognizable that I don't even know
what to do with it as somebody who has
used the aggregation of capital and
talent as the moat to do something that
other people can't do but then I pull
the switch that I'm telling people they
need to now which is well I need to get
excited about what I'll be able to do
with AI with that brain in my hand so
instead of being traumatized that oh the
moat I thought I was building of
aggregated capital aggregated Talent now
actually becomes well could I build
Kaizen by myself could I go in work with
AI build out all the lore uh leverage
the physics engine that Nvidia is
building which is the thing I was most
excited about from CES if you haven't
done game development you're probably
not thinking about how radical this
would be that if the AI So when you say
build me a world like this that it
actually understands how uh when you
step on dirt that's dry that you get a
little puff of dirt when you step on
dirt that's wet you leave a little
footprint it just knows all that and so
now it's not trying to guess what the
next frame is it's guessing what the
next frame would be knowing the laws of
physics dude that is so amazing and so
now as a solo developer I'm like yo
right now that kind of thing is so hard
to do but the difference between games
that do it and don't do it is is radical
so now I'm like wait a second like I'm
going to be able to do so much more I
have to shift my brain over though I
have to stop looking at what I'm losing
mode of aggregated capital and
aggregated talent to what I'm gaining
which is I'll be able to make something
on tiny tiny tiny budgets that now
totally unlocks my creativity and I can
just be in there doing my thing now look
the reason that learn to code became
like a slur that would get you banned on
uh uh what was it called before Twitter
on Twitter was
because people realized a lot of people
they can't emotionally they can't make
that transition it's not that they can't
learn it human mind is plastic you can
learn uh anything to the best of your
abilities we're all limited uh to
different
degrees but the people that that can
make that transition this is going to be
amazing once you go I'm going to stop
focusing on how much it hurts to let go
of what I thought my future was going to
be and now I'm going to focus on this
thing over here now it is entirely
possible that I'm a mutant in that way
in that one I love change and two I just
don't have a problem shifting gears I'm
sure I've told the story before when
Lisa and I left Quest that was really
hard for her that her identity was
caught up in that to this day if she
sees a Quest Bar in an por is going to
take a photo people have to remind me
that that was the company that I used to
own I just my identity is not like that
if I ever move on from Impact Theory
I'll just stop thinking about it even
though it's literally my face but I just
don't get tied up in it not saying
that's better or worse I'm just saying
it is we all have an architecture of our
mind that leads us to interpret the
world in different ways uh so for me
this is a moment where I find it pretty
easy to go oh that's not going to be my
moat what's going to be the next thing
oh it's not about Moes anymore it's
about like personal expression making
every moment count cool love it now I
get it I have money so I don't have to
worry about that side of it but I also
think that when you project out where AI
is going I don't see any end other than
World War III or becoming post
capitalist where the cost of energy
becomes so low and the cost of Labor
becomes so low
that what you want it to do there will
be more robots than there are humans um
that everybody will have a wildly
intelligent um I don't know if the right
way to think of it is because if you
think of it as a servant it's going to
trigger architecture in your mind which
makes you feel bad if you think of it as
a um partner an army of partners that
all want what you want that will execute
what you ask them to execute and they're
freakishly intelligent they're extremely
hardworking they never complain they're
just there for it and they're going to
help you get what you
want um there's obviously a fractal in
there about what happens to humanity
which I don't think this is the episode
but if people can switch their mind to
oh my God like this literally unleashes
everything I've ever wanted to do and
then they understand you still have to
find meaning and purpose and so now what
are you going to do with that and look I
know that I can't see the future clearly
so the way that I view it now will end
up being incorrect I know that but you
have to navigate towards something you
have to connect the dots and say this is
where this All Leads so that you can
take action and as long as you adjust as
you go you're going to be fine but when
I I felt this way for a while but when I
started watching the stuff coming out of
CES I was like yeah 100% 2025 is the
year where it just starts no new
Engineers um anybody uh shots in film
are now done with AI um huge swats of
video games uh like motion and what's
called rigging it's just all done by AI
That's going to start this year and so
it'll be just like the death of a
Thousand Cuts and the confusion it will
create in people in terms of what do I
tell my kids to study yeah it it's going
to be a thousand little things like that
that's 25 25 isn't terraforming the
world and it looks different but it's
terraforming the mind of I know if I ate
the cookie I would feel better and I
don't know what my life looks like in
that new world and I'm just scared and
I'm just paralyzed and so I eat the
cookie and there's going to be um a lot
of people that quotee unquote eat the
cookie that reject AI it's going to get
I think violent not not probably not in
25 but uh by 27 I think you see cruelty
to robots I think you see people
um let's keep it lowkey I think they
will vandalize robots I think they will
um do things like the blowing up of the
Tesla truck in front of robot Factory
you're going to see a lot of protests by
27 that that's where this all goes and
the
unnerving of the world starts this year
it's crazy because hearing you kind of
go through the different breakdown and
the ripple effect that it has in society
the underlying thing and I wrote it down
was like it's a psychological impact yes
we're going to have to relearn how we
organize as a civilization now with this
thing
and that for some reason that seems
bigger than like post capitalism I I
understand that but this kind of seems
bigger because it's like we have to kind
of redefine the rules now almost in a
weird way you know a really weird thing
that I think this is going to do and I
will remind everybody that my initial
love is writing and there is some part
of me that still views myself as a
Sci-Fi writer uh I think that AI eroding
people's sense of meaning and purpose on
Earth will push people to want to
colonize Mars
and they're going to be like I need to
be a part of something where we're
building something from scratch um I
want to put myself at risk I want to do
something hard I don't think people
understand the one thing that I worry
will really derange humanity is when we
have robots that will do everything for
us and everything is easy and the royal
penis is clean sire and robots are
wiping your ass and you don't have to
work for anything that scares me more
than anything we are designed to
struggle and so if people channel that
into um I'm going to go colonize Mars
I'm going to do these hard things I'm
going to build uh what are they Dyson
colonies I forget what those are called
but uh the orbiting cities and stuff
yeah at least as a Sci-Fi writer that is
so cool to me um but you will get people
that push themselves to do just crazy
crazy crazy [ __ ] my personal favorite of
course is building synthetic worlds that
we can live in but again that's a
fractal for another day and then I know
you say 20 s but do you see this kind of
as like a a stair step do you see this
kind of as a log scale like what's the
rate of change you think we get from
like here to there like oo how fast it
will happen so uh there is a great graph
that we should pull up that shows the
rate of change in uh self-driving so
here it is full self-driving rate of
improvement in disengagement ratio in a
single year it improved
a,x look at that January 24 you can't
even see it it's so small and then now
it is uh a THX more than that it's
absolutely crazy and it will look
something like that that's in a year
that's not even over the year over years
so once you understand the rate of
improvement of AI That's where people
are really going to start to be like
whoa whoa whoa wait a second
so this is going to happen in radical
steps and it will be a product release
schedule now if I'm understanding Sam
Alman right they actually delay the
release of Technology because they don't
think the world's ready for it they need
to digest what's already been released
so imagine that they've already got like
GTP 5 ready to rock but they're just
like y'all aren't ready for it you're
not even using four right yeah so it's
like woo it's so fast that people are
throttling the release that's when you
realize uh oh like this is really moving
quickly Elon Musk said in 2025 he'll
have a thousand Optimus robots in his
facilities for them to test and train uh
and then I think he said between 50 and
100,000 in 26 and then God did he say 10
or 100x that in 27 so it's like yo
that's fast man that's fast in three
years there could be out on the streets
a million robots bro that's pretty crazy
and then what are we at in four years 10
million OTS like it it gets crazy really
really fast this is like if you just had
a baby before they go to school there'll
be robots
everywhere everywhere that's a kid
that's already born
sheesh man
um I got nothing that's because it's one
of those things where it's like on paper
I understand the success rate I
understand why we're doing it but I
think that that Chasm that psychological
like that that check is going to be due
I don't know who's paying it I don't
know what it's going to be paid in but
that we're going to have to rectify that
but I don't think it's just zero to
robot Utopia there's going to be some
UPS we're we're all going to pay it and
it will be paid in um psychic trauma and
a little bit of blood and I hope it's
only a little bit of blood but there
will certainly be robot oil as well and
I really hope that's I hope people can
just adjust but of course I know human
nature better than that so I hope that
they take it out on the robots and not
the people um but yeah there's going to
be at a minimum mud slung at the people
building these things for sure so all
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