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the bulletin of atomic scientists moved
the Doomsday Clock closer to midnight
than ever before deep seek tries to
Gaslight users Trump forc fed deportees
back to Colombia by threatening
president Petro with a tariff stick
people say foreign gangs are trying to
destabilize America and Elon has a wild
solution for how to stop it air travel
goes supersonic for the first time in
decades proving Innovation isn't dead
but Whos are getting attacked on the
streets of LA it is another busy day in
a world of transition Drew welcome to
the Future it's here it's amazing but
there are some challenges yeah 89
seconds man I feel like I'm I'm on the
clock I got to speed some things up
there a lot happen seconds to midnight
for people that don't know the Doomsday
Clock I was just about to say give us
that breakdown I know about the
Oppenheimer days of it but in 2025 bring
us up to speed where are we at right now
with it yeah so uh when we made nuclear
weapons the bulletin of atomic
scientists was born and they decided to
track how close we were to self Anil
uh it's gotten a lot broader in recent
years before it really was just nailed
down to that How likely are we to um
experience nuclear Armageddon uh they
had a whole announcement press
conference where they were talking about
it uh and they listed out a bunch of the
different things that they think are the
things pushing us closer to midnight
again than ever before uh and they were
um uh global warming or climate change I
forget the word that they used uh
misinformation which I thought was a
little bit crazy that felt a little
political uh but we put down a whole
list what were all the things pulling
out of the Paris climate agreement
withdrawing from the wh and AI was also
mentioned as well as the nuclear war
threat still yeah but that was the last
thing that they listed which I thought
was very you should have start with that
one but yeah yeah so well it's uh is
nuclear the biggest threat that we face
right now so Eric Weinstein who a
longtime listeners of this show will
know I have just un ending amounts of
respect for still thinks that that is
the threat people are not paying
attention to at one point he said do we
have to start testing these things out
in the open air again so that people see
just how devastating they are uh to get
people scared of them again uh so I
don't want to dismiss that because it
just has sort of low PR value but may
still be the thing that we have to worry
about the most um but seeing climate
change and misinformation be at the top
of their lips did not feel like the
right way to prioritize the threats that
we face I believe in humanity I don't
think that we are going to self
annihilate but when I look at the things
that worry me the most it is the um the
immediate term existential dread that's
going to be brought on by AI I think
that is going to be the most disruptive
thing that we're going to face so again
overplayed to call it doomsday but
that's the thing that people are going
to pay attention to whether they want to
or not and that's why I know at some
point we're going to be talking about
the weo thing um this is that those
little glimmers of the pockets of
violence that I think that we're going
to see coming up in the next couple of
years uh beginning to rear its head now
but I do think it is worth talking about
that the bulletin of atomic of the
atomic scientists uh are messing with
that clock yeah it's it felt political
just in its presentation because to your
point if AI was number one with
everything that happened in deep seek
deep seek we're seeing a bunch of
misinformation coming from is this CCP
controlled all these things like that so
I wouldn't understand if they had AI
technology nuclear Wars and then climate
change things like that but kind of
leading with like the two things that
Trump signed in as an executive order a
week ago as like oh because he did that
we have to take the time down it felt
kind of political and that just we had
our our interview on Tuesday with Jank
released and I just love that interview
because he kind of broke down that
there's this overp politization of like
media in the sense that like we want it
to be left versus right so bad that in
the in them kind of stamping their flag
and putting this out here that hey we're
getting closer than to midnight but
they're doing it because I think it's
more of a nod at Trump versus it's
actual hey Humanity we're getting worse
like it seems kind of weird in that way
uh I agree very much that we are that
their announcement is tied more to that
than say what's going on in Russia
Ukraine where we have an actual Hot War
that's escalating or could things break
out farther in the Middle East that
stuff didn't trigger them Ai and a
potential fast takeoff didn't trigger
them them uh or made it way deeper into
their announcement uh certainly says
that I think if we looked at the
donation patterns of the people uh in
the group we might see uh that it leans
a little blue but I'm not mad at that I
think people really should speak up for
what they believe in but that's where I
get into the whole misinformation thing
winds me up because everybody has a
frame of reference everybody sees the
world through their lens uh and when you
can't see that that's when I get
troubled so my thing is people should
distrust themselves uh if people think
again I I'll repeat this one until I'm
uh blue in the face the way people
should interpret me or anybody else that
puts out these very strong opinions is
that I'm an AI I am simply giving you a
sincere strong take that you should be
aggregating a bunch of different people
that are looking at this thing we call
the truth from a bunch of different
angles all doing our best to try to
figure out okay what is this thing what
is the thing that gives us the highest
predictive validity uh and that I don't
want I don't even over index on my own
thinking I'm constantly looking for dis
um things that disprove the things that
I already believe and so uh something
like that to list misinformation and not
realize that all of us intentionally or
otherwise are going to end up putting
out something um that is reflective of
what we believe but does not survive an
encounter with
reality we shall see we shall see um
somebody else who is kind of putting
their thoughts into things is El
youer I was so close well I'm not even
sure I'm pronouncing that 100% correct
but that that'll get you close yeah so
this is interesting and you and I debate
it off camera whether we put this in
conspiracy corner or not um I think in
his own comments he would admit now that
uh his initial tweet which is as uh
follows uh I heard from many people who
said an Nvidia drop meaning drop in the
stock market price makes no sense as a
deep seek reaction um and therefore
they're buying Nvidia uh so those people
this is his tweet continued so those
people have now been cheated by Insider
counter parties with political access um
at first I was not sure what he was
trying to say and going in and reading
all the different comments what he's
saying is that uh because this was tied
to a video of trump making an
announcement um about how we're going to
be tariffing the chips that are coming
out of Taiwan and what he was saying was
no no no the dip in the Nvidia price
wasn't really tied to the Deep seek
announcement the dip in Nvidia price is
insider trading of people who knew that
this announcement was coming and they
needed the cover story of deep seek to
dump their shares basically um and in
his comments somebody pointed out
Trump's been talking about this since
previously he talked about it on the Joe
Rogan podcast uh and elizer admitted
that he didn't realize that so I think
he would walk that back I don't know
we'll see over time um but I think Trump
actually has a better take on the Deep
seek thing which is hey look this is
genuine Innovation now should we as
Americans be like hey we need to uh
treat this as the um Sputnik moment and
yes I know Sputnik was unmanned thank
you everybody in the comments uh to take
it as that moment to let it be a kick in
the ass to really ignite in us this
desire to compete and to win in this
space versus is look at this and say
okay this is an insider trading moment
um
because we saw the drop in the Nvidia
price prior to Trump's announcement when
Trump's announcement came out I don't
think they're related at all but the
price then very shortly after started
going back up I mean this is just news
cycles and so to me it makes a lot more
sense that somebody saying oh nvidia's
stock price is tied to um people needing
the chips that Nvidia makes deep seek
has come out and said you need a
fraction of what everybody thought we
were going to need in order to get the
AI wins that we want and therefore
somebody whose uh price is predicated on
needing just a gaggle of these chips uh
they're not going to be as valuable that
that makes a ton of sense to me um and
Trump making good on something that he's
been talking about for a while being
cover story I just think it's the wrong
read so as people look at the shifting
Sands in the technology space um deep
seek in particular I think there's
really two things to take away from that
uh one is let this be our um Sputnik
moment where we are really amping
ourselves up to compete um and then
two understanding that um ultimately
this is a wonderful Innovation and this
is actually going to be better for us um
yeah I think that's let's jump into what
Trump's comments have done they went
crazy last week I signed an order
revoking Joe Biden's destructive
artificial intelligence regulations so
that AI companies can once again focus
on being the best not just being the
most woken today and over the last
couple of days I've been reading about
uh China and some of the companies in
China One in particular coming up with a
faster method of AI and much less
expensive method and that's good because
you don't have to spend this much money
I view that as a positive as an asset so
uh I really think if it's if it's fact
and if it's true and nobody really knows
if it is but I view that as a POS
positive because you'll be doing that
too so you won't be spending as much and
you'll get the same result hopefully I I
think it's interesting though because
everybody's talking about the Nvidia
read to me that says Stargate out of
anything should be on notice that they
just announced 500 billion for a million
square foot data center where deep seek
kind of says we might not need that so
I'll be really interested to see so I
have a working hypothesis now that I've
heard from many other people that's not
me making it up uh that the only
difference between um say a monkeys and
humans is the amount of compute that the
human brain is able to do so if you
simply stack neurons on neurons on
neurons on neurons that you eventually
do get more intelligent if that's true
then these gigantic centers again if
that's true then these gigantic centers
are still going to pay off but you're
able to get these huge wins on much less
meaning that if it's way more efficient
and you're able to build these gigantic
centers then you ought to be able to
push intelligence just way way way way
way farther now we talked about this in
our last episode the only thing that
remains to be seen is if people realize
oh no no no the game is inference the
game is focusing all of our attention on
rationality so uh the training data is
about meaning the the Big Data Centers
are about training so training is
studying the world and saying this is
what the world is actually like and
that's incredibly expensive and if doing
that is not as beneficial as the far
cheaper thing of going well we already
have a picture of how the world works
and now let's just get really good at
giving you really useful insights from
that picture of the world um that would
be the inference part of this then
people may not want to spend money in
scaling up these data centers and trying
to get more and more intelligent they're
just trying to be more and more um
useful in what they extract from the
models that already exist if that plays
out then okay the gigantic data centers
aren't going to matter but I hope that
it is true that you can
um keep making the data centers bigger
and bigger and bigger and thusly they
will become more and more intelligent
and with the increases in efficiency now
with something as big as these data
centers that you can be orders of
magnitude more intelligent than the
human mind that would be the ideal right
because there are things that the human
mind currently cannot grasp we do not
understand quantum physics as just one
easy uh example so um one of the big
things that people have always said is
there's something wrong about our
approach the AI because the human brain
is packed in these tiny little centers
that we actually carry around in our
skull and we're able to do things that
AI with these gigantic data centers are
unable to do so if it is true that what
deep seek has really done is best
thought of as a compression algorithm it
may have been a step closer to mimicking
what the human brain is actually doing
because we need far smaller uh in terms
of physical um space we need far smaller
data centers in order to produce these
huge huge leaps in intelligence so if
you put those two together it would be
extraordinary for us to daisy chain the
efficiencies with the size of compute
again this I'm speculating at this point
nobody knows what the real answer there
is going to be uh but those are the two
things on the table so my hope is that
this takes us a step closer to being as
efficient as a human mind yeah and I'm
looking forward to that I kind of push
back on the humans versus monkey brain
thing but I think meaning you don't
think that it's just raw stack more
neurons get more intelligent I don't
think it's that like one for one so but
I but that's intuition just out of
clarity yes because I think same thing
with like AI there's something
fundamentally different about how humans
process information that like yes we use
tools and they use tools and yes we have
mates and other animals have mates and
I'm not saying animals can't love or
anything like that but there is a
special sauce that separates how the
brain works so efficiently as a human
versus in other animals and other parts
of the animal kingdom agreed but so it's
a twofold question number one is Will
stacking the equivalent of neurons will
that allow for more intelligence okay
that's part number one part number two
is are there algorithms or compression
efficiency maybe the most simple simple
way to say that um will the efficiencies
get us to the human level or is it a
combination of efficiency and just scale
because honestly the goal from where I'm
sitting is ASI artificial super
intelligence the goal shouldn't be in my
opinion to only get as smart as humans
so I get why that would be far more
comforting to people but if we really
want to have the kind of breakthroughs
that get me excited like when I talk
about pushing energy cost to zero that
requires Innovation uh we're already
seeing people go back to nuclear huge
wind that will drive the cost of energy
down but that's nothing compared to
getting to zero getting to zero would
require Innovations in things like
Material Sciences that allow us to
better capture the energy of the Sun
solars when I it will drive energy cost
zero I'm assuming that we transcend
human level intelligence and that we're
able to just iterate super rapidly um
now it's still wildly beneficial to have
something as smart as humans and just
have a whole lot more humans looking at
that map of okay this is what the real
world is and what are all the insights
that we can glean from that um but I
think ai's promise isn't met until we
get something that is far far far more
intelligent than humans yeah yeah we're
definitely seeing breakthroughs in
software we also seeing a new
breakthrough in Hardware where boom is
the officially is the officially first
independently developed supersonic jet
um some people are calling this the next
business class where you'll be able to
kind of fly long distances for short
periods of time there's not going to be
an exorbitant new cost for these tickets
do you think that the future of air
travel is Supersonic and this is where
we're going well the last time they
tried this the record blew up in midair
and really freaked people out uh and so
that curbed that really fast we we are
living through a really interesting
moment again um Eric Weinstein I'll I'll
quote him here he was on the
trigonometry podcast shout out to those
guys who I have a lot of love for um
saying basically that Trump and this was
back in November so I would assume Trump
when they recorded it Trump had already
won the election uh but obviously wasn't
in office yet but his idea was Trump 2.0
is not going to be a continuation of his
first term this is going to be something
totally new and the totally new thing is
basically a renegotiation of everything
uh now what does that mean I will not uh
say that I can speak for Eric but I will
say when I look at that um the Overton
window got blown apart when Trump got
reelected and so now we're able to talk
about things that we weren't talking
about before and I think we're going to
see that renegotiation and everything
from immigration policy to um pushing uh
deregulation to promote entrepreneurship
to really unlock Innovation and the
things that we're seeing now are
obviously not a response to that way too
fast just like it would be a mistake to
blame the cost of eggs on Trump you know
whatever 12 days into uh his term uh but
it would also be a mistake to give him
credit for the innovation of the
supersonic Jets it's not a response to
him uh but we are seeing just a level of
innovation in the last I don't know
we're going to stretch it out probably
15ish years um in everything that we're
seeing Elon do even if you set Tesla
aside and just look at what he's doing
with SpaceX um
neuralink um starlink like it's really
really an incredible amount of um
Innovation that pushes back against the
Peter teal idea of we were promised
flying cars and all we got was 140
characters and we're really seeing like
an outpouring of incredible Innovation
and so to see jetco supersonic again is
really exciting and I hope as a part of
this renegotiation a that if you look at
Trump as a um a byproduct of culture
having come to the conclusion that all
of these things need to be renegotiated
and not the person who's causing the
renegotiation to happen I think you will
far better understand what's actually
going on right now um this was all just
sort of tamped down as people were told
they couldn't talk about certain things
everything was outside of the Overton
window um Meritt sort of took a back
seat again Trump as an expression of a
cultural phenomenon I think is better
and people are just like not here for
that definitely want to see people
innovating uh and you've seen these
tremendous entrepreneurs pushing back on
that and bubbling up despite all the
regulations and all that stuff and so um
I hope that supersonic is the future I
hope that it's a leading indicator of a
lot of incredible Innovation that's
about to break through um we'll see but
it certainly is exciting to think that
we're able to dramatically reduce the
time spent um traveling you know say
Coast to Coast would be massive and as
somebody married to a Brit oh boy would
I love it if you could get to England a
lot a lot faster yeah I took that trip
uh for the first time last year and yeah
that was a lot that was a lot not fun
you you went uh to like e what's like
the longest plane you've been on ever
ever ever ever uh when I flew
to uh where was I taipe that was the
farthest I'm pretty sure that was the
one that was brutal there were two that
I did one to taipe and these were a long
time ago so this isn't coach baby coach
uh I flew to Taipei uh and then I also
went to the Philippines both of those
were pretty
brutal um but yeah like actual time
sitting in a seat more than 17 hours if
I remember right plus an8 hour layover
uh yeah not a lot of fun yeah that's
tough that's tough um but going to your
point about Trump's term 2.0 being the
great
renegotiation we've seen that live and
in person this weekend where it was
Colombia V Trump where Colombia has sent
a military plane filled with deported
immigrants back to Colombia they denied
the flight Trump just mentioned in one
true social post 25% emergency
terrorists closing the embassy and a
bunch of other kind of restrictions
immediately about an hour and a half
later the president changed his mind and
sent his plane back to the us to pick up
the Deportes um is that a win for Trump
is that him showing the art of the deal
like how do you look at this it's
definitely a win for Trump the only
question mark that I have is how many
people can you threaten with the Tariff
stick before people really start to
create problems for you people just
people are people man and if you do that
to enough people like take Taiwan at
some point people go all right brah like
at we're not going to keep being uh an
easygoing Ally of the United States so
when you already have a hostile
relationship okay it can be useful um
and I think I I am really interested to
see how tariffs can be used in a
positive way but if he's using them
always and forever as an aggressive
posturing um I don't know I don't know
what the KnockOn effect is going to be
now I'm as excited as anybody else to
see tariffs be used in uh an intelligent
way to be able to reduce income tax and
I love the idea of an external Revenue
Service to reduce the amount of the IR
rest taking out of people's paychecks um
but I'm also aware that if you bully
enough people you're going to get into
trouble okay setting that aside for a
second what the thing that I think
people are missing and that hasn't been
a part of the political landscape
certainly not over the last four years
probably skipping Trump for a second in
his first term before that either is a
real visceral understanding that
Americans should have of what it means
to be such a powerful economy MH and
what we saw in Colombia is Colombia
realizing hold on a second maybe we make
what does Colombia make up 1% 2%
something like that of our economy um
I'm guessing I have no idea what the
literal number is Drew is typing it in
thank you drew uh we're going to not
make uh we're not going to repeat
mistakes so um they're they're whatever
the real number is they're a very small
part of our economy we're a very large
part of their economy and so if we were
to tariff them and essentially deny them
access to our economy certainly at the
the rates that they were getting it at
getting it before it would be very
detrimental their to their economy and
so you see somebody who understands that
they understand with their point of
leverages and in any negotiation you
need to understand your point of
Leverage so this is you know when you're
an entrepreneur you're always saying
okay I'm coming into this negotiation do
I actually have leverage here or not do
they want something from me when they
want something from you now you're in a
great negotiating position and if they
want something from you that's more than
what you want from them you really have
leverage and if you're actually willing
to walk away from the deal now you're in
an incredible position and what Trump is
showing is because of the size of our
economy that the whole world basically
wants access to our economy wants access
to China's economy the two biggest
economies in the world by a lot and it's
very effective to say no I'm going to
deny you that but again there's going to
be some sort of cumulative effect and um
I don't yet know what it's going to be
maybe it'll be fine and maybe it will
just be well okay I've got to put up
with this from him but I get access to
this gigantic economy that's making my
the lives of the people in my country
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show to me it's it works with Colombia
it works with Guatemala some of these
smaller South American countries that
are relying on other IND industrial
Powers I'm interested for this tough
talk when he brings it to Russia when he
brings it to China where he brings it to
somebody who has economic and maybe
military backing and just see if his his
noise changes because to your point when
you have leverage it's easy to bully the
little guy I want to see how he applies
that leverage or what leverage he thinks
we have when we start kind of hitting
these other states and these other
places these other countries around the
world I don't think you're going to see
a lot of change in rhetoric with Russia
because the Russian economy is not very
big uh you will see it with China China
is a pure competitor and there are ways
in which China has a stronger economy
than the us so that one that's why I say
um this is a cold war that matters a lot
and one thing that people need to read
about is something called thusi trap and
THD trap is when you've got a country on
the come up China going against an
established power that's on the decline
the established power that's declining
just cannot allow itself to be overtaken
by the upand comer but the upand comer
is like yo I'm not going to be treated
like the redheaded stepchild anymore
like we're way too powerful for that and
so you're going to get this collision
and many people have said look America
and China are on this path to thus CD's
trap we've got to back out of it because
you do not do not want America and China
in a kinetic War uh so hopefully we can
resolve this just amicably wouldn't that
be nice I don't see that happening uh if
we can't do it amicably hopefully we can
do it at the level of economic Warfare
way better than kinetic Warfare uh and
that's the game that we're about to
watch play out and I think AI is going
to have a central role in that because
if AI is able to be super intelligent
now you run into this idea of fast
takeoff slow takeoff um which is
interesting because actually we have a
tweet from Sam actually it was from
somebody else um showing something that
Sam Alman said I think now would be a
wonderful time to show that clip I have
never believed in the like one day or
one month takeoff um for for a bunch of
reasons but like one of which is how
incredibly long it takes to build new
data centers bigger data centers like
even if we knew how to do it right now
just like waiting for the concrete to
dry getting the power into the building
this stuff takes a while the reason that
I think that's interesting is going back
to deep seek and what it represents is
uh you've got the U bulletin of the
atomic scientists saying hey we're
closer to midnight but they're really
pushing AI way down the level of risk
part of the reason that I think that
that might be a more immediate risk is
what deep seek is proving is hey you may
not need these gigantic centers for us
to get something that is more
intelligent than humans uh and so you've
got one of the number one figures in AI
telling you that uh well the reason that
I'm not worried about a fast takeoff the
reason I don't think that this is going
to be as destructive to uh mankind as
people think is because data centers
take forever and then Elon builds a
gigantic data center like the biggest
data center ever in six weeks and then
deep sea comes along and says oh by the
way you don't even need data centers
that big uh so it it is a it is not wise
to brush all of this stuff off and if we
see that China is better at these
compression algorithms better at getting
efficiency out of AI um and or is able
to get access to the chips that they
need to build these gigantic data
centers then now you're back into this
race of like yo we really have to get AI
nailed down uh and it is going to if we
get into a thus cidi trap moment where
each of these people each of these
countries see the other as an
existential threat that has to be dealt
with then we're on a collision course um
and I think it would be very easy to
find very notable public intellectuals
who are extremely well versed in this
that will say yeah we're racing towards
that yeah I agree we don't need any more
war I'm all for the peace guys but we
already seeing new tactics where a Fox
News correspondent brought in a a crime
expert and from his perspective he's
saying we're being infiltrated by the
gangs with the point of destabilizing a
Nation let's take a look at this clip
let's bring in Joseph hum the executive
director at secure free Society you've
also written a big report about tread de
araga published on her AG .org that the
Heritage Foundation here's what you said
in part quote with a documented presence
in no fewer than 20 US states the TDA is
terrorizing Urban and Suburban
communities throughout America for the
Venezuelan regime that's the Maduro
regime the TDA is a tool of asymmetric
Warfare to destabilize countries while
maintaining plausible deniability so
you're saying that this isn't just a
bunch
of people who are out there uh engaging
in criminal activity they're doing it at
the behest of the Maduro regime team to
try to destabilize the US absolutely
John what you're seeing today not just
with TDA but with all the cartels is
they're not working like cartels anymore
they're working like weapons of warfare
like soldiers on a battlefield to invade
territory capture territory steal the
sovereignty uh of countries all
throughout the Western Hemisphere so TDA
is the latest one that we've seen but we
also seen the Mexican cartel we also see
MS13 and what president Trump did with
his executive order of designating the
cartels and other tcos as foreign
terrorist organizations as he brought
counter transnational organized crime to
the 21st cury for the longest time
fighting terrorism was a top priority of
the United States but fighting these
cartels has to be a top priority because
they work with terrorists and in that
order he mentions aetric Warfare he
mentions crime Terror convergence and he
mentions conflex adaptive systems these
were Concepts that were once only
discussed within the intelligence
community and the academic world now
they're at the front of the executive
power and I think we're going to use all
the elements of National Power to go
after them Tom homman was sitting where
you are about an hour ago and he said to
me it was off camera he said that's why
the president is invoking the alien
enemies act because
gang members are acting at the Beast of
a a foreign power yeah in the alien
enemy act they mentioned something
called predatory incursion that's
basically infiltration of a foreign
country sent by aliens of another
country Venezuela is basically
infiltrating the United States through
its TDA members and they're spreading
there's no way a gain goes from like a
couple States in one year and within a
couple years goes to about 23 States in
a matter of months that's not normal it
took the MS13 decades to do that so this
is something that's been put on steroids
by a specific governments that are
basically weaponized migration to bring
down the the United States and I think
now we have a night and day difference
because now Tom homman and others
president Trump are taking the fight to
these cartels and they're doing it a
very smart way so how do you feel about
gangs being used to destabilize Nations
I'll need more time to see if this is
really true it's certainly an
interesting hypothesis and I think this
is why people need to really be paying
attention to what happened during a
period of having an open border is if
you are uh take Colombia you just got
threatened with the Tariff stick you're
probably not loving that you're being
pushed around if other governments are
saying hey there's a way for us to go in
and destabilize America let's do it it
will um release some of the hold that
they have on us a weaker America gives
an opportunity for a stronger Fillin the
blank whatever country they are uh and
now you just have your opportunity to
fill that power vacuum and and rise up
uh now whether that's actually what's
going on or not uh we'll see that's
going to play out in the fullness of
time
but that to me is why the open border
was so terrifying it wasn't just that
people are coming here they want a
better life I get that I get why people
would want to do that uh and anybody
with compassion is like yeah I want to
see um I get why people would want to be
here and I want to see those people have
a better life however uh first of all
unchecked immigration is just a bad idea
because of the need to assimilate the
need to maintain cultural uh consistency
I think all that stuff really matters um
so when people flood in it just it can
make it very difficult for people not
necessarily make it difficult but um
there will be a lot of people who don't
assimilate and then you begin to
fragment your own culture and you can
run into problems uh you need look no
farther than what's going on in Europe
right now to see exactly what that looks
like um but setting all of that aside
and just looking at this was an
opportunity for people to send um agents
of their own government that remain true
to the government that they left so uh
maybe conspiracy theory but there was a
lot of talk that China was using the
Darian Gap to send people into America
to effectively be this is my word but
like sleeper agents much like Russia was
doing back in the 80s with the Cold War
uh we were sending spies there they were
sending spies here that all that stuff
is real I guarantee we're still doing it
to other countries other countries are
trying to do it to us so this idea that
these gangs and these cartels are also
functioning as agents of the governments
that they left and he's specifically
referring to the venezuel gang
TDA um and the need to police that the
need to take that seriously I think is
really um it's something that we ignore
at our own Peril now how we go about
doing it is going to be the question and
that's what everybody's pushing back on
right now is does that look like racial
profiling does that look like going
after uh people that are here legally is
it a bunch of sweeps where we're just
going through and it's like uh Germany
during World War II where it's like show
me your paper that kind of stuff um we
certainly don't want to end up back
there but knowing that these are in some
cases the equivalent of a paramilitary
group well-armed well-funded
specifically through drugs and human
trafficking here inside the borders of
the United States and fiing this stuff
out is not going to be easy um that is
all I think very real now the thing that
I find fun funny I don't know or if I
should be horrified is something called
letters of Mark um somebody had sent
around a tweet the Tweet if I'm not
mistaken has massive um views on it like
29 million when I saw it earlier today
27.9 to be very specific the idea of a a
letter of Mark is a very fascinating
thing that goes back I don't think we've
written a letter of Mark in over a
hundred years but the idea was uh in an
age of piracy where you've got a bunch
of people out there that are um
hijacking ships stealing all their cargo
and you as the government are having a
hard time policing this that you can
write a letter of Mark to private
citizens and say hey if you're able to
stop a pirate and basically be an
anti-pirate pirate uh or a sanctioned
pirate then we'll give you some of the
booty that you're able to capture and uh
Elon tweeted that this would work very
fast now to be very clear you'd be
sanctioning there would be rules but
you'd be sanctioning normal trained let
me be very clear trained people that
meet certain qualifications but you'd be
sanctioning private citizens that meet
certain qualif
open
coms now I would have to see what the
rules that they put on them before I
give uh too much of a strong take but I
will say that just strikes me as wild
west like good Lord what could go wrong
going to the the most well-armed
populace in the world I think if we're
not number one we got to be Clos number
one well per capita I think there
actually is like Norway or something oh
God people are going to light me up but
there there's a country that is on par
or more per capita we certainly have
more gun violence anyway we'll look it
up we'll figure out uh what the answer
is there but
um such an armed populace as America is
it us we're number one okay all right uh
so that just strikes me as a recipe for
disaster I think it is far wiser uh to
make sure that we have a coordinated
effort by the government to deal with
that stuff but I like the signal that
are coming out by designating them
terrorists that we are going to take
care of it yeah I I wasn't surprised
when I heard this story you can look as
far as ha or every other developing
nation in the Caribbean and afro America
you you'll see a lot of
um
insurrections
coups and then you start to realize how
was a poorest country in the Western
Hemisphere have all these guns and you
start to kind of connect the dots and
this is kind of similar to my JFK moment
from last week where I was like it came
from inside the president and you're
like yeah and then now they're like
there's gangs that are using to
destabilize the nation I'm like yeah
that's that's a play that's been used
since the' 60s um so I'm personally
sensitive to that so when I seen this in
what way you're not surprised at all
that the um other governments are
sending in these essentially
paramilitary groups or something else
yes because I have this is just Andrew
St justing I have evidence or I have
seen enough dots that I'm connecting and
that created my frame of reference that
I have seen Western countries send in
people in these other poor developing
nations to destabilize those Nations can
I say it in more direct way and see if
this is what you're saying America has
done this to so many other people you're
not surprised that people are doing it
to America yes okay yeah but I mean
America yes but Britain is up there too
France is not clean of blood on their
hands too so it it's a long list of
countries so that's why I'm like oh yeah
America's now finally getting it back to
them um but to your point we were doing
this to Russia as far as two decades ago
let probably I don't know that so
paramilitary groups feels like a totally
different thing to me um than just spies
but yeah spies be
everywhere uh that is for sure
especially trained operatives might be I
guess I'm grouping them all together
like interesting so I read these very
differently and uh this could be my
movie brain kicking in but when I think
about these gangs and the way that
they're able to cordon off neighborhoods
stop the police from coming in there um
leveraging uh this was something really
interesting to hear I'm almost certain
that I heard it from Rick Caruso uh in
the episode that he did recently with
Sam Harris uh please forgive me if this
isn't accurate but I'm almost certain
that it is and he was talking about um
that he had put forward the uh change I
believe it was in the chief of police
here in Los Angeles uh I think Bratton
was the guy's name but anyway comes from
I think the NYPD they bring him to La
very unpopular but the reason he was
doing it is what was happening in Los
Angeles was the gangs understood that if
you complained about a cop that they
would be put on basically administrative
leave their career would be sidelined
while they investigate it that the
investigation could take a year or two
years and so these neighborhoods that
were overrun by gangs as a way to keep
the police out they would file a
complaint the police would go offline
and so people just got the message don't
even bother going into those
neighborhoods and so when I think about
um these are not dumb people they may be
violent they may be evil but they're not
dumb and so if you allow them to come in
and I know for at one point there was
like a couple buildings that have been
taken over in or and so it was like what
like that to me is crazy that's the kind
of thing do you have to nip in the bud
you've got to be very aggressive about
clearing them out because they will um
create real problems for you and you
want to talk about what is the role of a
government it is protecting its citizens
and uh if you are allowing things like
this to pop up it's like little tumors
all over the place uh and so that one
freaks me out not that I'm not freaked
out by spies freaked out by spies but
nowhere near the way that I'm freaked
out by people going into um underp
policed areas taking over entire
buildings um terrorizing the citizens
around them that just that really freaks
me out you just describe Porter Prince
the last year and a half really yeah so
it's one of those things where I'm super
again I'm super sensitive to it um so I
noticed that so when I see these things
happening on the Western Front I'm like
oh that's interesting that if this is
true that it's from Venezuela South
America like these governments are
plotting against it now it's like okay
it's coming back to America now we have
to be on defense so I'm still empathetic
for I'm not say oh yeah let America burn
I'm not one of those people but it's one
of those things like oh the tactics are
now kind of coming back home to roost
and that point yeah hum's gonna human
and if it's a useful tactic people will
exploit it there's no doubt about that
yeah speaking of humans going human a
lot of politicians are trying to cast
their vote and hide their hand um
there's some noise out there I I pulled
up the Charlie Kirk tweet rumors rumors
for now let's just be clear while we're
filming this uh yeah Charlie Kirk said
about um oh God Tulsi gabard uh I'm told
that the vote for Tulsi gabard might be
done privately in an SCI if I don't know
if it's pronounced CIF but seif with the
vote Tally's kept secret from the
American people uh I forget what seif
stands for we should probably look it up
but it's like basically something where
you're allowed to cast your vote in
secret is the punchline uh now if this
is happening stands for sensitive
compartmented information facility it's
a very weird way of saying in secret uh
so I could not hate this anymore if I
tried I think that Congress and the
Senate should be absolutely forced to
vote transparently for everything y I
don't think they should be able hide
anything that they do in an official
capacity Agreed 100% I think if you are
an elected official people put you in
there you should be able to stand on
your record and you have to hide your
record you shouldn't be there so we'll
see where are we at with RFK he's this
is his week yeah interesting but he in
the same he's I'll be so sad if he
doesn't get in uh which I have no doubt
will be nice and controversial but man
he won me over I was ready to cast a
vote for RFK I did vote for RFK
brainworm and all um yeah RFK cash Patel
Tulsi is this week so we'll see we'll
keep an eye out we'll follow those
confirmations um Trump got a lot of his
other guys in Marco Rubio um Pete the
got did theth yeah Pete HTH is in there
um so he nobody other than Matt gate
stepped down so we'll see this week if
if he'll have any more wins um in other
news you're a Marvel guy right you love
Captain America I do dude I'm I am a
comic junkie in ways that I think would
unnerve people uh I'm admittedly now
more into manga that's a long story I
should do a treaties on that at some
point uh but yes very much so nice let's
check in on Anthony Mackey who's the
star of the new Captain America movie
coming out in February he had some uh
Choice comments that some people didn't
like for me Captain America represents a
lot of different things and I don't
think the term you know America should
be one of those representations like uh
it's about uh a man who keeps his word
who has honor dignity and integrity
uh someone who is trustworthy and
dependable um you know it's uh it's it's
kind
of this is kind of like a uh an aspect
of a dream coming true you know when I
was a kid you know all of us as actors I
believe want to get back to that day
before someone told you no when you look
out your door and you see a 5-year-old
kid with a stick and he's slaying
dragons to save the princess in the
tower that k really believes their
dragons out there that stick is really a
sword and he's really trying to save
that princess and then one day somebody
told him no there no dragons that's not
a sword and that princess is not there
and all of his little dreams were dashed
so you know as an actor I feel like our
job is to get back to the day where we
see that dragon and we slay that Dragon
to save that princess and uh that's kind
of what this movie was for me yeah look
we live in an age where everybody has a
voice and social media is a real thing
and so you're going to see a lot of um
movie stars popping off about something
related to their movie and just
destroying Goodwill for these movies um
I hate every word out of his mouth but I
have such a soft spot for him he's in
one of my favorite all-time Christmas
movies I think it's called the night
before uh it's him Seth Rogan and the
kid with three names Joseph Gordon levit
uh that movie just absolutely [ __ ]
kills me so anyway uh got a warm spot
for him here here's the thing in a world
where you're counting on a bunch of your
money coming from
China I get why he is trying to make
this
Universal but oof you've got a movie
called Captain America you've got a fan
base that loves what America represents
in their minds um if they grew up
reading Captain America man like
they're really G to have a hard time
with this because it was like it's part
of that thing like yeah America I love
America and as somebody who is just die
hard I love America um I hate every word
out of his mouth um but you have to put
it in context of this is somebody who's
trying to sell a movie who's trying to
be inclusive I get it I know people hate
that woke [ __ ] but the reality is that
his job is to promote the movie and to
get as broad of an audience as possible
now if I could help him out and then
I'll be very curious to hear what you
think about this this is what I would
said if he came to me and said Tom look
I need some consultation how do I handle
this if somebody says something about
America I would say look man America is
an idea it's a country for sure love it
proud to be an American but it's also an
idea and there's a reason that we've
been this Beacon to the rest of the
world and so many people have wanted to
come here from um fleeing religious
persecution when we were a nation of
settlers because there was no country
there was no rule of law uh as well as
immigrants coming all throughout the
history of America Post Its actual
founding wanting to come here land of
opportunity and that's the ethos that
we're built
on um that idea is something that I hope
resonates for people even if they don't
live in America that I would love for
people to like this is a concept that
Tom billu has thought a lot about what I
call foreign born Americans people that
were born in a different country but
they just have that pull towards Freedom
Liberty
um and Entrepreneurship and the drive to
be great and personal responsibility and
to be able to see how far they can push
themselves and develop themselves and
being uh an individualistic Society
versus a collectivist society like all
of that I love it whether you're born in
America or not so I if you're trying to
expand the people that can resonate with
an idea of Captain America uh you want
to acknowledge that America is a place
and it's a place that people want to go
to for a reason and that reason is the
set of ideas that anybody the world over
can Embrace and would love to see more
people understand that idea and uh feel
a sense of Pride when they hear it
because America as an idea is and then
you cut to his thing about it's somebody
who stands up for what they believe in
it's somebody who has Integrity like all
of those things and that's all true um
but to say Captain America doesn't stand
for America like godamn like what are
you
doing yeah um
I don't know I don't know
I okay this is let's go for it I think
the word America to your point it's a
triggering word it's a loaded word
because I think there is an idea in
about America there is the stars and
stripes and Rolling Hills and fireworks
and star Tangled Banger and football and
hot dogs but there is when other people
hear the term America they might not
necessarily go to those words first so
to me when he says it he I think he was
saying it from his standpoint of like
this is not about America the real
actual history that's filled with bones
and blood and persecution and all these
other types of things but it's about the
honor and the integrity and it's the
ideas that a lot of people who migrate
to America Chase and I think that now
especially in the last couple years we
have seen this kind of weaponization of
America and I'm not one of those people
that like America's the worst and needs
to go to like it's the best country in
the world how comma however as much as I
love it just like I love my daughter I
hold her accountable when she does
things wrong I want her to be the best
human to be I'm constantly pushing her
to be better than what she was yesterday
and I think that America ourselves we
should have that same type of perception
to it so if he would have got on stage
like yeah this is all about America and
beer and football and I love it and like
yes a lot of people would have
high-fived and that American Pride would
have felt good but it would have been
disingenuous to at least not acknowledge
that the word America doesn't instantly
transport people to those
Sunny positive like
images okay so let me I'm Consulting
again for our boy uh Mackie uh what I
would say is okay I respect that if
you're worried that the word America
Falls on people in a way that like
you've got to compensate for then I
would hit them with this you get what
you focus on and if you look at life and
you w to or look at America you look at
America and you want to see tragedy
you're going to be overwhelmed by it
there there are plenty of things that
are there uh as as somebody who has read
a lot about the I'll use the word
conquer the Conquering of America it is
a wash in Blood and just heinous [ __ ]
comma however if you focus on the way
that we have become a beacon for the
world that we have built the strongest
economy by focusing on the individual by
creating a space where individuals can
really expand their abilities to eek out
every bit of greatness in their life to
um build and create and innovate in a
way so
spectacularly that we have built to your
own admission the greatest country on
Earth and if you look for that you will
also be overwhelmed 100% And what's
interesting is if we tell the story over
and over and over and over and over of
let's focus on all the things that
America did wrong all of a sudden the
word Falls in a weird way and it hits
people and it feels some kind of way but
if we focus
on the positive aspects of America if we
POS if we focus on the things that
America has done well and hold her feels
right to me hold her accountable to
getting better and drawing more people
in and making sure that Prosperity is
there for everybody regardless of race
um regardless of class which I honestly
think at this stage in our development
is the far more troubling part um then
we can continue to get better but if
we're looking if if we focus everybody's
attention on the bad part now all of a
sudden there is no impetus to make it
better the impetus becomes to burn it
down and when you have the impetus to
burn down the greatest nation on Earth
to me you're just moving in the wrong
direction hold her accountable look at
the things that we have done well look
at the things that we have done poorly
but if you focus everybody on optimism
if you focus everybody on um when you
pursue greatness when you because I
assume this is what you're telling your
daughter is and I don't know how you
break on the we're not blank slates I
don't think we're blank slates and I
think science will back up that we're
50% hardwired and we're 50% malleable so
if I had had kids I would have said uh
don't worry about the part that's
hardwired M okay there there's going to
be realities face we all hit our
limitations but focus on the 50% that's
malleable and what makes America so
great is you're going to have the
opportunity to push that skill set as
far as you can forget the education
system is going to fail you okay fine
you've got access to the internet you
can learn you can read you can push
yourself and as Kobe Bryant said boo
don't block dunks and so you live in a
country where the government is not
going to [ __ ] you up trip you up uh
Force they they may under serve you but
they're not going to cap you yeah and so
now it becomes a question of how far can
you push it so what because I've lived
through both in the 80s when it was like
America was the greatest thing ever and
it was just on everybody's lips oh my
God this is the best place ever and we
got to defeat Russia they're evil and
we're
amazing we embodied that and it was like
oh my God like this is our shot this is
our opportunity we can do anything we
want and so from the time I was little I
was just steeped in I could be anything
I wanted it wasn't just my parents
saying it it just felt like it was
everywhere yeah and so I was just naive
enough to believe them and so we were
talking before we started rolling when I
was a kid I I this is GNA sound
misleading but I would smoke in a pig
Barn okay so now I was not a smoker at 7
or 8 or whatever but we would collect
cigarette butts on the side of the road
and we would smoke them in a Pig barn
and when I say that I'm like yeah that's
actually how I grew up and here I am now
in one of the biggest cities on planet
Earth and all kinds of
success because I had a distorted but
positive view of the country that I
lived in so I get it's propaganda but
it's propaganda that empowers and it's
all propaganda
the there was a book called The daing
and when I first read it when I was 15
or 16 whatever there was a line that
like sounded cool but I didn't really
know what it meant and it's the da that
can be spoken is not the Eternal da now
Dow translates is the way so you could
read it as the path that can be
explained is not the real path okay
[ __ ] facts whatever I say about
America is going to be a lie because the
second I articulate it I've reduced this
insane complexity down to something that
is artificial so I get that but no
matter who speaks whether you're saying
negative things or you're saying
positive things they they are fake both
are fake so now the question becomes
which path leads to the elevation of the
human Spirit which one leads to your
daughter having unlocked potential as
much as any of us do and seeing how far
she can push herself is it America
doesn't want to see you succeed or is it
hey you can do anything here in this
country I would put all my chips on if
you focus her on booze don't block dunks
this is the country where you can find
out how far you can push it then she's
going to lean into that 100% 110% no
notes nothing like that and the fact
that we had this argument on or this
conversation on a political show makes
the utmost sense did you just call this
a political show I'm sorry on a show
that talks about politics
occasionally trying to keep it to
20% like Anthony Mackey should have said
what you just said America is beautiful
I know it had some struggles but hey Man
Captain America is supposed to be a
symbol of hope he's not supposed to give
the the pessimistic answer cuz you're in
a movie you're not running for office
you're not you want tickets and seats
like that's what you're worried about
you want popcorn you want people to like
this movie you want Harrison Ford to
come back for your sequel like that's
what you're chasing so I completely get
what you're saying I'm not saying that
in a sense to validate what he's saying
or to take the onus off of it because at
the very at the very end of the day he's
trying to get more people to see his
movie about Captain America so you
should have America in a positive light
like full stop please what he said now
wrong place wrong time I do think though
I empathize with what he's saying
because I seen those people who see the
other side of America that's why it's
like okay I understand I think he's
getting taken out of context and
villainized I don't think that's the
right mod or that's the right mood but
at the same time you are just selling a
movie bro like just get excited get more
tickets in the seats like that that's
what you that's what you're really like
chasing no yeah I'll be interested to
see how people respond to this like I
said I have soft spot well some people
aren't responding well uh I'm very
curious to see how people take Snow
White because when I say I know nothing
about the movie but boy oh boy is the
vibe negative so we'll be interested to
see if um if they pull it off and it's
great and people love it uh and same
here I would love to see this succeed um
soft spot for Anthony Mackey as an actor
I am absolutely obsessed with comics
comics though and part of the reason
that I'm now into um manga is that the
Japanese did not get the memo that um
you should be appropriate to political
correctness in your stories and so that
that was one of the reasons that I
softened on American Comics it was just
all aimed at like political issues it
was just exhausting it was
moralizing uh and when you look at the
way that the Japanese handle it it is
it's not Universal they're not a
monolith all that all that but
um if a comic is written for a
12-year-old boy it's going to have the
bombast and the enthusiasm of something
that a 12-year-old boy is going to be
into uh and so they just told really
awesome stories and for anybody that
wants an example read my hero
Academia Jesus dude if I there of all
the IP I've encountered
that's the one that I wish impact Theory
made and for people that my my life is
so fragmented people don't even
understand that impact Theory uh has
done Comics because of AI we're going to
stop but um we've done comics and when I
look at my hero Academia it it's just
incredible it conveys these incredible
lessons uh without moralizing yeah and I
think that's really important but anyway
I hope people will forgive Mackey I hope
people will judge the film for the film
and if the film is uh Mor ing trash then
it will suffer as it must um but
hopefully people don't just latch onto
that and just want to brow beat him to
death yeah it's that's not fun and I
agree I think movies you can tell a
movies Comics anything you can have a
political message you can tell a
narrative that's fine every writer
should have that impulse that's what
makes them like have to write it but
don't Foods don't uh force feed me don't
SPO feed me like hide the the sugar in
the medicine a little bit like don't
don't necessarily kind of put it like in
my face like the I found this out as
like a adult like uh Malcolm um Magneto
and Professor X based off of like
Malcolm X and Martin Luther King like
roughly and how they like their approach
to the Civil Rights Movement was the
same way have those two U mutants have a
different approach like the mutant
epidemic which is like an interesting
concept and then they kind of ched it in
comic book terms but it's not like
Magneto was leading a black lives matter
March like you know what I mean like you
had the kind of you haven't read Comics
lately not not that that one but there's
a lot of that now oh now it's all out
honestly force-fed you're going eat this
whether you want to or not yeah the
there was a whole thing called Comic
skate it it got pretty crazy that's
crazy that's like I don't know be a
better writer I'm sorry like I love it
it's a hard job I'm there too with you
guys but like it should be about the
feeling it should be about exciting the
reader to get excited to get motivated
make them feel something not
just Soap Box it I don't know it's just
boring to me yeah agre all right last
but not least I'm going preface this by
saying the streets are trash and anybody
who's dating out there I feel your pain
I was like where are we going with this
I went on a date and it's
like it was
good and then yet like I'm just tired of
like I don't know the bill
came the bill didn't come he asked for
the bill and in French he said two bills
and so they came and I was like
if someone says I want to take you out
then I want to be taken out which means
to me to pay and whatever so we did that
I paid and it's fine and then after I
was I was honest and I just said it like
I don't know cuz I I said like yeah I
thought you were going to take me out
and like to me that means pay and and
then suddenly his English wasn't so good
anymore when he was like I don't
understand what you mean I was honest
and like whatever what else do I have to
lose I just want to be honest because
there's a that I want to be treated and
like I might as well just tell someone
like what else do I have to lose I don't
know and then like afterwards he was
like next time I'll pay like unprompted
he said that after we're having another
conversation I said okay and then he
said are you free this week and I said
yeah and then I texted him after and I'm
like I had a nice time thanks and then
he read it and didn't respond and it's
like okay I don't know like I'm just
tired
of I'm happy I was honest
but like I just like want a [ __ ]
gentleman all right uh I think it's very
important for people to realize she is
not crying that he asked for two bills
she is crying because the streets are
trash I believe is your quote uh yeah
modern dating sounds brutal trash uh
okay if you had to okay I love Lisa I no
no no disrespect no nothing uh if you
had to start over do you have a strategy
of have you thought about this like if I
had to date again now what would I do
well so here's the real answer I okay
nothing in my life has brought me more
joy than my marriage nothing has brought
me more mental health in my marriage
like absolutely incredible but I have a
really strong impulse to collapse inside
of myself uh meaning I get obsessed with
goals and things that I'm trying to do
and so would I go out and date given my
level of financial success I worry a lot
about that man I worry a lot about it
now look I think I'm a pretty good judge
of character but I don't know that I
would date very quickly I would have to
really get profoundly lonely before I
would do that again part of that my
obsession with my wife so I'm uh let me
let me be can I be a consultant to
somebody who's dating I think that would
be far more effective approach to this
consult me I'm dating okay uh well so
here is the key you want to meet them in
real life so there was a period where I
think online dating was the play and
then it started to do something to the
way that people think about other human
beings when you're in a swipe mode
there's a sense of there's always going
to be somebody better and so when you
meet them for a date or whatever and
you're in that ecosystem of how they
think about okay am I just trying to get
the faux emergency call from my
girlfriend saying I got to go like
anybody wouldn't know that is total
[ __ ] these days but um or like do I
get time to act actually meet this
person outside of the context of dating
give them a chance to see what I'm
really about give me a chance to see
what they're really about and let it be
a bit more of a slow burn I think that
that is way more effective uh so my
advice would be to find an area that you
love that you would want to talk about
that thing so it is not a mistake uh
there's twofold reason why Lisa and I
ended up working one she saw me I was
her teacher school for adults nobody
needs to freak out um but she I was her
teacher so she saw me in this position
of authority so women have a tendency to
date across or up so me being in a
position where all eyes in the room are
on me and she's seeing me at my best so
this is I mean this is a very long time
ago so I'm broke um so me having an
opportunity to flex in any way other
than the fact that I'm highly verbal
that I have maybe insights into film
making that she found really interesting
and so that pequ her curiosity
intellectually um so you want to put
yourself in a position where um you're G
to shine and it's going to be a thing
that you're going to want to talk about
So Lisa and I bonded over film and
storytelling in the beginning that was
really where just immediately we knew we
were going to have a lot of things to
talk about uh and that we were able to
spend time with each other like we had
known each other for about a month
before we went on our first date so that
kind of thing where it's like the
oldfashioned Slow Burn getting to know
somebody time and all that yeah not only
that but in the time that you have
you're able to one be aggressively
yourself which was the big thing that I
learned because I used to show up on
date one with custom written poetry date
one custom written poetry and flowers
okay don't do that boys and girls
terrible [ __ ] play uh and I realized
much like we were talking about earlier
with negotiations you have leverage if
you're willing to walk away and so I had
to go into every exchange with a woman
saying I don't care how beautiful she is
I don't care how interesting
whatever I I am willing to walk away in
this exchange and that changed
everything instantly on a dime and so
bringing into the real world being
aggressively yourself and saying I have
no fear of loss with this person they're
either interested in who I am because I
don't want to fake who I am or not and
I'm putting myself in a position where
they're going to be able to see me at my
best um and we're going to be able to
take our time like those are the real
things but that means you've got to be
going out into charity is just an easy
way to talk about it but what's like a
charity that you really care about where
you can interesting people that are
there for the same kind of thing um that
I think is the real play and then you've
got to be really deaf at communication
and um if I were really going to give
you like assuming you do all of that
stuff so that we're beyond the sort of
setup of it all it's if you want to be
interesting be interested just like ask
them a ton of questions about themselves
um it really does spark something in
somebody to feel listen to to feel scene
um and then if you can this is where it
starts to sound red pill but I'm like
the least red pill guy you're going to
meet um but if you can create a context
for them to be inside of hold frame
that's what they call it if you can
create the frame and keep them in it it
it really is powerful and so you have to
get very good at like I'm going to walk
into this room I'm going to create the
frame that we're going to be exploring
and then I'm going to hold that with
charm and wit that's the play all right
I'm taking my notes I'm WR I'm writing
some stuff down okay uh I'll I'll Circle
back Valentine's Day is right around the
corner we we'll see if I get any wins
we'll see we'll see that's all I got all
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