Elon vs. Sam: The Billion-Dollar AI War Just Got Personal + DOGE, Gaza, Kanye | Tom Bilyeu Show
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JD Vance puts the global AI community on
notice Elon and Sam prove High School
drama never ends Doge and Trump
apparently want smoke with the Judiciary
the media is stuck in a constitutional
crisis dialogue Loop the US Cold Civil
War continues to heat up Hamas threatens
to withhold hostages and Trump threatens
to unleash holy hell if they do Kanye
nukes the Overton window then dips and
did we just prove that teleportation is
real Drew starting off in AI news JD
Vance was over in Europe um he gave a
great speech um I like JD Vance's
confidence in it do you think the
Europeans finally got it the world is
starting to catch on about AI well the
world is definitely caught on about AI I
don't think anybody is hiding in their
hole anymore but from the perspective of
the way that the European Union
approaches the world they very much are
a safety first approach and it is the
diagram of how many uh I forget it's
like like North of1 billion doll
valuation companies there are in America
versus the um European Union is crazy
it's an order of magnitude more in the
US and I think that JD Vance is right
when you look at the world and you think
that um it it needs to be a nanny state
that we have to like be cautious above
everything which I get the impulse but
when you steer your policies around that
you end up just managing the decline of
one of the greatest spots in the world
for the last thousand years I mean it's
it's so much of the Innovation was
driven by Western Europe and to see that
now declining as rapidly as it is is
really sad and so when you look at the
European response to AI which is death
by regulation you look at the US and
China which are very much being hyper
aggressive in terms of trying to be
first in the market to really dominate
this what I see is people that
understand
that this is a competition which people
get very weird when I point out how much
competition there really is in the world
but AI is a competition and if if
artificial super intelligence is real
people need to understand the level of
dominance that's going to give whoever
gets there first and when you start
thinking about super intelligence
beating somebody by a week could be the
equivalent of beating them by a thousand
years I mean it it remember we're
talking about super intelligence I'm not
saying general intelligence this is
something where I'll remind people that
Einstein was only 2.4 times smarter than
a by definition [ __ ] and you get that
huge discrepancy when you start talking
about something that's 10 times smarter
a 100 times a million times smarter now
all of a sudden you understand what's
really at stake here
um that is what I think people need to
hear in what Vance is talking about now
you don't want to sweep safety under the
rug you don't want to say that safety
doesn't matter but that isn't how you're
going to capture the future the upside
of AI the way that you're going to
capture that is really by saying okay we
need sensible regulation we need to look
at the alignment problem but we need to
be focused on Innovation and that is a
message I don't think Europe is
constitutionally capable of implementing
it just for the last however many
decades has not been their play and it's
so ingrained in the European psyche at
this point they're not going to turn it
around and so despite what um noises
they were making about like we really
get this and the game's not over and
we're still in it it's just not their
approach to anything yeah and to their
credit they did announce 200 billion
euros and of investment it's the largest
private public sector investment that
they ever done hold on so this is look
at what's happening in California so
we've put all this money towards
high-speed rails and we haven't built
any rails this is where regulation and I
know you had uh an epiphany over the
weekend about regulation in practice and
where the rubber meets the road and how
problematic it can start being it does
not matter how much money the European
Union throws at this if they have
regulations that's going to stop it from
actually getting implemented great so if
you spend all this money on all this
infrastructure but then won't let the AI
innovators innovate you won't let them
do anything it will be this massive
expenditure for absolutely nothing and
that again the effect itive design of a
system is what it outputs look at that
um diagram of the number of again
multi-billion dollar companies whatever
the exact number was built from scratch
in the US versus what's going on in the
European Union and you will see they are
constitutionally incapable of that level
of aggressive creation so us companies
68 companies with a combined market cap
nearing $30
trillion uh this is the US this includes
Tech shs like apple Microsoft and Amazon
EU companies 13 companies collectively
worth 400 billion key players include
Spotify Aden and dsv yeah and the graph
or the the image is the really striking
thing you see what a difference it is
because you see the size of the
companies that we've created now
remember that size is a proxy for the
value that it's added to people's lives
where people are saying I would much
rather have that thing that you've
created than my money that is innovation
and especially we think about oh my God
just seeing that is so crazy um
especially when you think about that the
way out of the debt crisis certainly
that we have in the US but even globally
because so many people printed like
crazy during covid to get our way out of
this part of the debt cycle you either
end up in a in a hot War internally or
externally or you innovate your way out
of it there isn't another solution you
can trim and you have to you've got to
Doge it you've got to like
make sure that we don't have to collect
as much tax money as we are right now
that's that is a big part of this um but
you're going to have to innovate I there
I don't think there is a realistic way
out of the crisis that we're in now
other than that Innovation and so if the
EU doesn't unlock it you continue to see
what I think is right rightfully um
called a managed decline that's just the
reality of where Europe is I I really I
feel it and you brought it up weekend I
was doing like a short film and it was
30 people on set to shoot a 20 like a
12-minute video uh and there was so many
different disagreements where the pa
couldn't do this cuz the gaffer had to
do it and you could just see kind of the
red tape it took just to like point a
camera and shoot at something and I know
film takes a lot there's Geniuses I'm
not going to minimize their efforts but
seeing all these AI generated images
that we cover every week on this show
I'm looking around and I'm seeing this
room of people literally 30 people and
I'm like in a year it's going to be what
10 in a year it's going to be five in a
year it's gonna be you know and then or
one one it's getting crazy did you see
that Adidas ad that was all AI generated
and people and it wasn't a real ad by
Adidas it was an artist who was just
like let me create what I wish they
would create and it was like these
really cool floral designs and people
are going nuts for it they're like oh my
God like I I actually want that to exist
and admittedly when you find that sweet
spot in a AI where you pitch to its
strengths cuz you can do stuff with AI
and it just looks ridiculous but when
you pitch to its strength it looks
incredible and so to your point about
being on set and seeing the Quagmire of
all the different uh unions each
fighting for their own thing all the
regulations that you get um that
accompany that industry it now is not
the time for humans to be this extra
burden this extra problem it's like you
really want to be nimble now is the time
ficient where the world going in terms
of being able to automate things away
and here is the thing that really
terrifies me about AI as somebody who
cares about the people I care about the
people I want AI to be awesome for
people
humans I look at this and I say okay
here is the flywheel that's going to get
started the more you fear for your job
and dislike AI the more you're going to
throw flags on the field the more you're
going to try
slow things down the more you're going
to try to sabotage it the more you're
going to do strikes and things like that
and that's going to drive the people
that are taking the capital risk to
build these companies and you're going
to incentivize them to say okay well
when this contract ends or when my time
with this employee ends I'm not going to
replace him with another human this is
just too big of a pain in the ass I'm
going to now automate anything and
everything that I can which then makes
them grab the the humans that are
getting displaced makes them grab even
harder throw more flags on the field
strikes Andes them further Implement Ai
and so you get into this crazy flywheel
of the more you resist it the faster it
will come so it's it's like being stuck
in quicksand where if you struggle and
you're flailing you just go down even
faster if on the other hand you go okay
wait a second how do I understand the
problems that we're trying to overcome
so even in something just as purely
creative and and pure expression as
making a short film you say okay cool
we're trying to make this saying that's
going to Garner attention let's assume
on YouTube and okay I want to make this
whatever my role is if I'm the sound guy
if I'm the gaffer if I'm the keygrip the
first ID doesn't matter whatever you are
I want to make sure that I show that
humans can do a thing that is so
valuable that you would rather be
working with me maybe me in conjunction
with AI but you'd rather be working with
me than just outright replace me with AI
because there is a point where people
will take a diminishing return on AI
knowing that not not diminishing return
they'll take a lesser result on AI that
doesn't create problems that doesn't sue
them that doesn't walk out that doesn't
do a strike that you know all the things
that make it a pain in the ass make it
too expensive to do and they'll say oh
I'd actually rather have the AI than the
person because even though I'm taking a
slight compromise I don't have to deal
with all the other stuff you want them
instead to say oh man these people are
able to do something AI can't do there's
a special sauce here there's something
magical people are not going to even
delay AI because I don't think there's
any Universe in which humans alone out
compete humans with AI for sure and on a
long enough timeline probably just AI
full stop but they're not going to be
able to out compete them so if I were
coaching and I was saying okay cool you
want to Forstall AI as long as humanly
possible it it isn't to go um try to cut
the wires at the data center it's to
show humans are way more fun to interact
with humans are way more creative humans
have um artistic instincts and impulses
that lead you in weird directions that
an AI is never going to be able to do
anything but clone and mimic but right
now man that that Panic just instills in
people a strategy to cut the wires to
strike to do all the things that are
just going to cause AI to get put
forward faster I I feel like this
conversation is coming full a circle
we're going to get there but it feels
like we would rather have the
comfort of the nanny State kind of going
back to the EU where it's like I guess
they were too big and too powerful for
so long that the people just got
comfortable with like okay they'll take
care of me they'll do things so now when
something radically gamechanging comes
around like are can we survive that like
I I literally walked into this office
today like yo this is about to be a coal
mine like this is I I feel like this is
going to be the middle of Pennsylvania
in 20 years like La specifically because
we're a capital of media like because we
rely on on humans producing this
artistic output where to your point a
studio might not make a billion dollars
with AI but if they make 200 million
that's fine if it cut it it only cost
them six million to make insane yeah so
it's just I don't know I'm I feel a
whole nervousness about this don't ask
questions don't look under the hood
don't audit us like leave it as it is
don't change anything but I feel like
this this change is inable like it's
bubbling over it's almost like you're
trying to put pop rocks and Coke and
then like hide it under the desk like
it's going to explode like you can't
that's really a fun metaphor you can't
Endo it I don't know yeah Mentos in Coke
is a very good uh example yeah this is
coming whether people want it to or not
again because life is a competition I I
really can't internalize why that
bothers people or maybe the the better
way to say it is I can't understand why
people fight against reality yeah
uh you're going to get smacked in the
face with what is real and what is true
and it seems far more effective in your
life to constantly be self-correcting
your own belief system to try to get
closer to what is uh what is real and
when you use AI man it is unbelievable I
showed I took a still photo of Lisa and
was just playing with this app called P
Labs not paid by them or anything but uh
using that and I made it she was
laughing in the photo and I had the
photo turn her laughter into crying wow
and at first she thought it was real
video of her and then as she started
crying she was like wait I know I didn't
cry and so she was like what is that and
the fact that you can already do that
now like literally with a single
sentence of description uploading a
photo in two seconds it it's just this
is not the one that you want to fight
against this is the one you want to say
okay cool how do I leverage this how do
I use this in my life but this is where
you begin to realize that culture really
matters and it is a really fascinating
and distressing fact of the human psyche
that as we become more
successful we get farther from having to
fight for literal survival uh we begin
to vote in the things that make it more
likely that we become dysfunctional and
we can't ever step back and go okay hold
on I know that this is a time of Plenty
but I also understand how this Cycle
Works I mean everybody's heard the um
Hard Times make strong men strong men
make good times good times make weak men
weak men make hard times like we all
know the loop so why can't we go where
are we at in this Loop and let's address
it accordingly thinking not only
shortterm because you can't ignore the
short term but if you just think short
term you end up in this tractor beam
where you now cannot avoid
uh crashing into the very thing you're
trying to avoid it's it's crazy um we
definitely can't stop it um but maybe we
can lowball it and see if that will do
it because that's what Elon Musk did to
Sam Alman over theek look at that
transition I was like where is he going
lowball uh yes uh Elon Musk offered 97
and some change billion dollars to Sam
Alman for a controlling interest in open
AI of course Sam mman rejected and let's
check out the clip do you think Musk
approach then is from a position of
insecurity about xai probably his whole
life is from a position of insecurity I
feel for the guy what do you take about
elon's uh bid on Sam mman all right this
this moment in time where we are able to
watch the biggest names in
business with just unimaginable amounts
of money on the
line play the game of business that is
normally hidden behind the scenes out in
full public view is beyond fascinating
to me what do you mean okay so there's a
lot that's going on here so one I'm sure
that Elon would love to get a
controlling interest of open Ai and if
he could pick it up for just under a 100
billion he probably would and I don't
think he would have any trouble raising
the capital but I don't think that's the
real game the real game is he is trying
to batter Sam uh publicly to um take
every chance he can to slow him down to
trip him up to make things hard for him
and as Elon I mean the the most
respected businessman on a global scale
I I don't care if people like his
politics or not nobody investing these
kind of dollars is going to say oh he he
doesn't know what he's doing in business
everybody knows this this is the
greatest capital allocator of our time
he's done the greatest turnaround in
business history as far as I know
literally the biggest most successful
turnaround in business history is a
turnaround of Twitter into x uh just an
absolutely astonishing turnaround and so
when that guy comes out and says without
saying it but this is what your
company's worth at the moment where Sam
is trying to raise money at a $300
billion do valuation if I'm not mistaken
um it just throws some it throws a
wrench in the gears where now at a
minimum Sam is going to have to defend
himself and him in a defensive posture
to be like listen you know El's just
trying top us up we're obviously a lot
more than 97 but he's now forced to have
the conversation that Elon wants him to
have yeah he changed the frame on
exactly and it's like you've
got this guy who everybody wants a
little piece of not everybody of course
nothing is monolithic but so many people
would want to get Elon involved in some
way and so now you can imagine
conversations back Channel where people
are saying to Sam like hey can't you
guys bury this can't you squash it can't
we do something with Elon isn't there a
thing here that we can do or even I
don't want to compete against Elon so if
you're a capital allocator out there and
you're like do I want to go up against
the greatest innovator of a generation
potentially of multiple Generations
potentially of all time like do I really
want to be in that battle and some
percentage of them are going to say no I
don't want that battle like even
somebody like Peter teal has just flat
said I would not want to be in the
business of competing with Elon uh
you've had Mark andrees again one of the
most successful capital allocators of
our time saying I don't like the idea of
betting against Elon so you get all
these people that are like the thing I
don't do is bet against Elon and Elon is
putting down that Gauntlet saying wow I
I am going against this kid like this
guy it's personal I am going to continue
to chop away at him both through
building a better product and by doing
things like this and you start going
okay you've got this guy who is very
well
connected I know some people have a real
beef with how connected he's become but
he's extremely connected he's
unreasonably talented at this thing that
we call Capital allocation he's
unreasonably talented at just raw
entrepreneurship he unreasonably
talented at getting talent and I don't
know why he reposted this today but um
Elon reposted a clip from back in the
day where he was talking about his
Fallout with um Larry Page at Google was
over uh recruiting Ilia SATs skyver who
is basically credited with being the
most important hire at open AI he's no
longer there but uh the fact that it was
Elon that got him there in the first
place suddenly people start going okay
hold on a second uh Elon is a big part
of the reason that open AI is where it
is Elon has called out I am going after
this kid and Elon is saying oh hey your
company is worth you know 97.4 billion
it's just a lot of things for Sam to
deal with to bring it back to where I
started I definitely feel that emoji of
the popcorn and I'm like and I feel
terrible because these are like so high
stakes but it it it's all visible now we
can see it all whether it's at the
government level and now we're just
seeing everything we're seeing into the
books we're seeing into um the way that
the sides are fighting each other and
how they're doing it because social
media is bringing all of this stuff to
the Forefront it's just an absolutely
fascinating time to be alive and for
anybody that is terminally curious and
just wants to learn and get better it's
like whoa being able to see this stuff
is incredible it reminds me when
Zuckerberg tried to buy Snapchat and
then the guys turned him down for like a
100 million then he turned down for a
billion and stuff like that so it's it's
interesting to see these competitions
and then Zuckerberg ultimately just like
copied the story format from Snapchat
and that kind of hurt their market share
so do you think that there Sam should
worry about that since grock like Elon
does have his own AI system he's
building he is a direct competitor with
um open AI currently do you think it's
going to get to that like how would you
react to somebody kind of making that
offers it like should I negotiate with
them should I try to counter like no I
so listen this is definitely Monday
morning quarterbacking so uh Sam is in a
way better position to know what he
should be doing here than I am but is
somebody on the outside looking in
here's how I would play it Sam you can't
Flinch you need to be aggressive you've
got to keep going and try to outcompete
unless Sam knows something like if he's
hemorrhaging because they have
hemorrhaged a lot of talent if he's
hemorrhaged talent to the point now
where he's like uhoh I don't know if I
can compete um then maybe I could see
trying to do something but for now if
he's really got as much technology in
his back pocket that they haven't
released because they didn't want to
Shell Shock um the World by dropping AGI
too soon and people freaking out not
knowing how to deal with it if he's
really got some cards in his pocket and
he's going to be able to play them then
this is where you have to step up to the
plate be more aggressive and outcompete
Elon and show that like your
not some Rando kid like there's a reason
you like if I were in his ear telling
him how to think of himself be like you
were the guy that managed to convince
Elon the greatest capital allocator of
all time potentially to Capital allocate
with you to um give you the seed Capital
to work with you to build this thing uh
you were the guy that they tried to coup
from within your own company and you got
reinstated it was like one of the most
gangster moves in recent business bu
history I mean just absolutely
incredible and so if I were him I would
want to make sure that all of my
investors understood yo I got this I'm
not going to be bullied I'm G to be able
to weather this storm as I've weathered
all the other storms that came before
we've got incredible technology that
Elon is years behind he is he is amazing
but he's not going to be able to catch
up with us we just have too big of a
head start and by the way the reason
that he's making this bid in the first
place isn't just because he wants to m
with us it's because I bet he tried to
train his model and he's realizing uhoh
this is going to be a lot harder than I
thought it was and so he's going to have
a hard time getting capital or or
raising enough Capital to see this thing
all the way through and um that we're
going to be able to use our own AI to
continually make that gap between the
two companies bigger and bigger so
everybody sit tight you know keep eating
your popcorn but I got this and Sam mman
did have a funny tweet that he put out
he said no thank you but we will buy
Twitter for 9.74 billion if you want so
to your point I definitely think they
are now just kind of disrespecting each
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it's a little sad to see in terms of
you've got these extraordinary talents
building these extraordinary things
taking shots at each other but also in
the age of social media reality is the
greatest reality show ever like this is
you don't need to go looking for
unscripted programming you can literally
just look at real life stuff that's
happening it it is fascinating it is
fascinating and these responses to Doge
have been just as fascinating um we
covered the meltdowns last week There's
now been some uh lawsuits but Scott
Galloway and Caris swisser they want to
take it even uh further let's check this
clip out they can unmask CIA officers
who put them their lives In Harm's Way
to try and keep our to try and keep our
our Americans safe I want to know who
their names are and I want to see
Democratic governor saying I'm going to
do everything I can in my power to use
the Full Faith and to the letter of the
law to put you folks in prison I think
what you're doing is trespassing I think
this is a coup and be clear just because
the new insurrectionist who was elected
you know I don't believe this is legal
and I'm going to hold the people
accountable who are trespassing and part
of a coup accountable it it to just sit
back and say this is UN this is horrible
and this is unlawful we need to go
gangster here and say look we are not
negotiating around this stuff this is
illegal this is a coup this is the
unlawful seizure of power we are not
going to engage in these [ __ ]
ridiculous arguments over you know Gaza
and Greenland we are going to hold the
people accountable here are their names
here are their faces and and we have
contacted the local authorities in where
these kids live these young adults and
we are going to hold them accountable
it's crazy we need to go gangster here
what's your uh reaction to the Doge
Engineers yeah this one makes me sad so
um there is a reason that we have the
balance of powers I think the balance of
powers is very important and I don't
want to see that ignored and I don't
want to um I don't think that the media
is out of their mind to say this could
become a constitutional crisis I don't
think we're at constitutional crisis it
will all depend on how Trump plays this
in the coming weeks if he just
completely ignores all the court orders
and just continues to do his thing uh
then yes we do have a problem because
you have a Judiciary for a reason I
think that does need to play out in the
courts um having read the Constitution
The Constitution's light man I don't
think people understand how few words
are actually in the Constitution and so
it doesn't lay out like if a bunch of if
this then that statements it's really
really Spartan and so the way that the
system works is you um you create a
simple-ish document and then you let a
bunch of things work their way through
the court system and that I think you
want to let happen and so there was a
ruling I think in 1803 it's like Marbury
versus something uh and what that said
was basically that the the Judiciary can
check the executive powers and so they
can't just drop an unending string of
executive orders and expect that there's
not going to be any push back if you
have a federal judge who believes that
this is um unconstitutional they do have
the right to say hey you got to pump the
brakes and so um I don't want to see
that be ignored I'm the guy that was
like Hey the one thing I do worry about
is when you've got uh you've got the
house the Senate um executive branch and
legislative branch all on one side like
that makes me a little bit nervous and
that's basically where we're at now so I
would not want to see all of that lined
up and oh by the way uh in the lower
courts where it's going to be harder and
longer term to get a more balanced
because admittedly that that you have a
lot of activist judges which I don't
like uh but nonetheless it's good that
we have some checks and balances here so
anyway I want to see this play out but
the thing that makes me sad about this
is not that because I'm I remain
optimistic that will be handled well um
what makes me sad is the aggression
towards these young guys like I don't
understand what everybody's beef is with
they are working with Doge which was put
together by Trump which by the way is
taking an existing um Department it was
already there using the exact Authority
that it already had and now all of a
sudden it's making people mad this was
something that was created I forget the
original name but it was created by
Obama and so it's like uh guys this is
like this is why you have to be careful
of being so combative that people end up
doing so many things by executive order
this is uh Powers a department again
that was created by Obama That's now
just being leveraged by Trump so it
retasked admittedly
but this isn't a new thing this isn't
something that Trump spun up out of
nowhere
so going after the
engineers that
Trump has put in place via Elon who then
found these young Engineers so a nice
tight line to the president going after
them like that doesn't make any sense to
me if you have a beef with Trump and the
way that he's running his government
then you go after Trump you don't go
after the people that he's asking to go
do a job that by the way as an American
taxpayer I'm like why are people mad
about this like let's if if we see not
to get sucked into talking points waste
Fraud and Abuse which I assure you they
are using those words over and over and
over and over and over and over and over
so that people can easily identify it
but if we really are finding that stuff
you don't want it to stop like it's
crazy so I get it as we get into the
weeds we're going to be like okay wait
wait wait wait this one got caught up
this one should be left to run it's
doing doing good things this is not the
one that you want to shut down which
Elon has said a gazillion times when you
go into he doesn't say turn around but
I'm going to use that language when you
go into a turnaround like this you've
got to cut hard and then you're going to
see oops we cut some things out some
regulations or departments or whatever
that actually serve a function you bring
them back this is exactly what he did at
Twitter he would cut something and then
realize okay we need some percentage of
this back and he would bring them back
and look you do go through a period that
is tumultuous but you can't panic in
that moment otherwise it's going to be
the same as it ever was and it is very
important that I plant a flag for the
base assumption that drives my views on
all of this and that is we are headed
towards a fiscal cliff that will
destroy this country all the people in
it and we are racing towards that Cliff
at 120 miles an hour and I've talked
about endlessly why I believe that m
but that drives my thinking on this
that's why dude you have to reduce the
budget and that means you're going to be
cutting things and of course there are
going to be people who want those things
to go forward but calling it a coup I'm
like what is happening this is why he
was elected to do this so challenge the
things you think are worthy of challenge
let them go through the court system
just as Donald Trump should not just say
well I ignore the Judiciary because
because I don't agree with them these
guys should not be trying to arrest
these quote unquote kids as everybody's
calling them uh instead of just saying
there's a process for challenging these
things and we're going to go through
them so yeah I uh I don't like the
attack on these kids and I absolutely
hate that everybody is making out like
because they're young that that somehow
disqualifies them um it reminds me of
the tweet that you did over the weekend
about like when Paul Mar luuy said
everyone angry about the age of Doge
workers is going to be very surprised
when they find out how old the family
fathers were and then your response is I
think about this every time I see the
people complaining about these those
guys being young so click click into
that because I ended up getting into a
debate with a guy and look it got like
four views uh because it was buried so
deep in the comments but he was
basically saying uh Tom this is
misinformation and nobody under 26
signed the Declaration of
Independence and uh yes that's true but
we're not talking about if they were put
in charge of Doge then we might have a
different conversation but as I pointed
out Alexander Hamilton as one example
was 22 actually he might have been
younger but let's just say 22 when he
was made the aid to Camp of George
Washington in the Revolutionary War I
can't think of a much more important
that's literally like the right-hand man
of the general in charge of found making
sure that we can found a country uh and
he realizes this kid is just insane ly
sharp and makes him his a to Camp you've
got another Lafayette or something was
19 when he um I it's all in the Tweet
but when he became a major figure major
political figure and so I think he was a
um Major General if I'm not mistaken so
it's
like guys being young does not
automatically disqualify you from
anything you should be looking at
somebody's competence if they're able to
do something extraordinary then let's
let them do said extraordinary thing if
you think that they are incompetent then
yeah go after that and say this person
is incompetent for these reasons but you
had um one person signed the Declaration
of Independence that was 26 I actually
think that was um what's his face uh
Hamilton and then you had another person
sign the uh Constitution at 26 as well
so it's like H pretty young pretty
young it it's it's disappointing I think
and that's the biggest thing and I this
uh old John Stewart clip has been
circulating where simply a couple years
ago he was arguing with a DC bureaucrat
about waste and how we can continue to
fail Audits and everybody applauded it
and every time the Pentagon says we
don't know what happened to the $900
billion and they walk away we're like
okay cool yeah and he said like and I
know we'll play the clip but he just
outright said that to me is fraud like
if you can't tell people where the
money's going and to your point the left
was all Applause please educate me on on
so anit is exactly what you just
described which is do I know what was
delivered to which place the ability to
pass an audit or in the fact that the
dod has not passed on is not suggestive
of waste Fraud and Abuse that is
completely false right there so so what
is now is a question of it's suggestive
that we can't we don't have an accurate
inventory that we can pull up of what we
have
where that is not the same as saying we
can't do that because waste fraad and
abuse has occurred so in my world yeah
that's waste how is that waste if I give
you a billion dollars and you can't tell
me what happened to it that to me is
wasteful that that means you are not
responsible but if you can't tell me
where it went then what am I supposed to
think and when there has been reporting
I mean this is not look I'm not I'm not
saying this is on you and that you
caused this but I think it's it's a
tough to make it an $850 billion budget
to an organization that can't pass an
audit and tell you where that money went
like I think most people would consider
that somewhere in the realm of waste
fraud or abuse because they would wonder
why that money isn't well accounted for
I I I just it doesn't make sense to me
that when one side do as I say not as I
do you know it's like when we were
trying to hold people accountable for
wasting on this side of the government
everybody was cool with it we had no
problems and now we're finding waste in
US Aid which to me is even more hurtful
it's more distasteful where that's
supposed to be a preest bringing
initiative that's supposed to be Aid to
help the world and we're seeing it go
into ngos getting funneled into people's
pockets but people aren't upset about it
it's just it's I don't get it people are
definitely upset about it it's just
you're seeing this stuff break along
political partisan lines and that is the
thing that makes me sad m to beat my kpi
drum to death it's like you have to know
where you want to end up and then ask
okay what are the things that we're
going to do to get there and then what
are the kpis that we check along the way
I think doge is being very clear they
are trying to cut $2 trillion do from
the budget so that we can stop the
deficit spending which is the very thing
that's causing us to go 120 mil hour
towards this fiscal cliff I don't think
people fully understand what a quote
unquote debt Jubilee looks like it is
people being beheaded in the streets it
is uh that's on the Civil War side it is
people um getting into a war with the
Rival power of thusi trap it it is it is
Bloodshed that it has a great name
because it says Jubilee uh but the
reality is that that is a horrific
period that nobody wants to live through
you cannot you mathematically you cannot
keep racking up these debts it leads to
hyperinflation hyperinflation forces the
debt
Jubilee it's all Madness all the time um
and shout out to Ashley SS Texas I think
she had the best take about this Doge
out controversy Democrats are acting
like cheating boyfriends right now I'm
sorry but somebody's got to say it I'm
independent I think there's good ideas
on both sides there's bad ideas on both
sides but what this Doge audit is
reminded me of is like a girl taking her
boyfriend's phone and like hiding in the
bathroom and the Democrats are just
begging on the door and they're like you
are invading my privacy you can't go
through my phone and Elon Musk is like
yes I can I can see what You' been up to
and then every time mus comes out of the
bathroom and he's like look see what you
did they just turn it around and they're
like you invaded my privacy this was
your fault you broke my trust that's
hilarious it definitely it's hilarious
and if if that is true as a an
analogy it's even worse because this is
like hey guys I'm going to get a phone
if that's cool like I'm the the cheating
boyfriend and I say would you please
please go buy me a phone and by the way
you can look at my phone anytime you
want like as a condition of getting the
phone you can look at the phone anytime
you want given that you paid for it it's
the only reason that I have it it's the
only reason I eat it's the only reason I
have a a roof over my head like you
literally fund everything uh and now
that you're actually going through my
phone as we agreed you could at anytime
I'm banging on the door and saying that
you're violating my privacy and I'm like
wait what like you have that phone so
you can serve me I bought you that phone
I feed you I house you all of it and
because I'm actually doing the thing
that we agreed that I could do you're
mad because of what I'm finding like
what so
anyway yeah
this not all of the things that are
going to be found are bad I am well
aware that Elon is a master marketer and
so he knows to draw your attention to
certain things uh so that people will be
very wound up and they will want him to
go in and stop all this spending get it
but the reality is there are things to
find a lot of things to find like
massive massive massive and if I'm not
mistaken there was a left-leaning
organization that estimated that we have
a trillion dollars of waste uh in the
government before Trump got elected so
this was them like when they were in
control being like yo there's probably
so that's 50% of what we need to find
right then and there not not things that
like okay if we had all the money in the
world we could probably keep paying for
this this is like the stuff that
everybody's like yeah we shouldn't be
doing that no matter what so crazy we
shall see uh and some other things to
look forward to Trump gave Hamas a
deadline for releasing the hostages have
they're not returned all of them not in
drips and drabs not two and one and
three and four and to Saturday at
12:00 and after that I would say uh uh
all hell is going to break out all hell
is going to break out are you do you
like like what do you think what's your
what's your temperature on this uh okay
so this is where this one gets
complicated so we have to do it as a
thought exercise the it this is early
breaking so we'll see what ends up being
true but uh Hamas is saying hold on a
second we had an agreement with Israel
Israel has violated the agreement so
obviously we're not going to give the
hostages back
and if you made an agreement and you're
the one violating the agreement
obviously I would expect the other side
to be like hold on a second so if that
ends up being true then it's like you
need to make good on the things you said
you were going to do like you're just
going to absolutely destroy your
reputation now I don't know if that's
true it's entirely possible that Israel
comes back and says guys this is
ridiculous I can't believe you're saying
this we agreed it was going to happen
like this we haven't hit the deadline
yet boom boom boom uh so I don't know
where that stands as a thought exercise
whoever is violating the treaty um or
the agreement that's the side that is
creating this knock on effect um now if
on the other hand Hamas is the one
that's breaking the agreement then yes
you you have to play international
politics has to be a game of [ __ ] around
and find out and the second that it's
not you you get big problems like just
take Russia and Ukraine so Ukraine had
nuclear weapons they gave them away
and now they've been invaded had they
kept them they would have had a much
stronger deterrent and they might not be
in that position so I get it I'm sure it
was with all the good intentions in the
world about nuclear de proliferation
that made them want to do that [ __ ]
around and find out
so if Hamas is violating the agreement
you have to go ham because you can't
have people uh say they're going to do
something and then not do it but again I
don't know which side is actually the
one saying they were going to do
something and then not doing it but if
they [ __ ] around they're going to find
out yeah I just know it's supposed to be
a ceasefire people are still dying a is
still not being delivered it it seems
like this is going to be a never- ending
conflict but and I'm still going back to
it's not like this is the whole thing
that I said last time I don't I don't
know what to do with this
morally you October 7th happens M easy
moral call you can't bad all bad uh that
there was going to be a response
obviously morally you have to defend
your people got it morally have they
gone too far
probably they kill a lot of people uh
definitionally they have done ethnic
cleansing that doesn't sound good sounds
absolutely horrible uh so I look at that
and go here's the really bad kicker to
all this it might actually bring peace
what the f I I don't know like yeah if
this were 500 years ago I'd be like oh
hey decisive military victories it's the
only thing that's ever worked in human
history got it that's how we got peace
with Japan it's how we rebuilt Europe
and it didn't become a psychotic
dictatorship um you need a decisive
military Victory the other side has to
give up their will to fight and
clearly that's what's happened from
Israel to Hamas now Hamas is probably
still in a position to be a terrorist
group Israel is using that as a cover
story to keep going ham now I call it a
cover story on purpose because bro like
it at this point the only thing that
they have left is to be a terrorist
organization I don't know that you're
ever going to be able to root that out
full stop unless you do what they're
talking about which is hey let us
rebuild it for you we're just going to
move you to Jordan and Egypt real fast
just real fast through we'll be right
back don't worry guys uh so that's where
I get unnerved when Trump said I don't
want to misquote it was something to the
effect of as my faulty memory goes
something like oh the people that have
struggled for so long and had such
horrible lives shouldn't be the ones
rebuilding this that felt like slight of
hand yeah like it's like if he had said
hey these guys have suffered endlessly
for a very long time and so we're GNA
partner with them to rebuild now there's
distrust there because they were given a
lot of Aid previously and they built a
whole bunch of terrot tunnels we
obviously can't have that uh so we're
going to do something like a Marshall
Plan and it's going to be like what we
did in Japan and this is what the
rebuilding is going to look like and
there's going to be a lot of
verification before we really get into
trusting and this is going to be uh
Global cooperation and we're going to
have a whole bunch of um Arab countries
leading the charge here and hey great
those aren't the sounds that Trump is
making and so that [ __ ] makes me nervous
so anyway we're going to see how this
plays out but again I just keep coming
back to but is it g to work like it
might actually while grotesquely
immoral may also work dude that that is
where humaning gets real weird real
weird
um speaking of gresla moral I know where
this is going that's the right
transition Kanye yeah that's all I got
yeah I'm not touching this one can I
just say we can't show a video we can't
show a tweet for fear of being
demonetized well also he took them all
down uh Praise Jesus uh so don't look at
Kanye's feed on an airplane that's
that's what I learned so as this was all
happening on Sunday okay first of all it
goes from
uh just blatant racism to blatant
pornography in the blink of an eye and
so I'm going through it just like whoa
like what is happening it it was too
crazy not to look I had to look and then
when it got to the porn literally I'm
not kidding drew the second it got to
the porn my wife looks at my screen is
like what are you looking but I was like
Panic scrolling trying to get off of it
cuz I'm like I'm on a plane forget my
wife I'm not worried about her I'm on a
PL dude and I'm on a computer I'm not
even on my phone and so it's like big as
day and I'm like oh God and I started
scrolling down and there's so much of it
that it like the more I scroll the more
it was showing it so then I started
scrolling but back up but I'm scrolling
back through it again you just a creep
on to play watch dud I felt I was so
horrified I was so horrified anyway the
first thing I was looking for was did he
get canceled like did they pull them off
because that would have been I was very
curious to see how they were going to
handle it uh I think as far as I can
tell Elon put him on not safe for work
very good move uh and then for whatever
reason kanier completely uh shut his
account down now I don't know why I
didn't hear any explanation from him but
dude there there is a very very
distressing level of um
anti-semitic
hate that's just like a thing now it's
crazy I'm just gonna say this over the
weekend it was announced that doge is
gonna uh audit the Pentagon next I
retweeted the article and I was like if
he audits the Pentagon elon's going to
get assassinated you think for real
that's military money like the CIA has
Shooters on deck for that so I literally
that's all I was like they're about G
humor gas humor I don't actually find it
funny that's just horrifying enough but
I literally I retweeted like they about
to assassinate Elon I was in twiter jail
this weekend so I could I could they
like they like because you said the word
assassinate yes I put assassinate Elon
and that was my one tweet that algorithm
got you and I was shut down for 12 hours
oh damn meanwhile somebody was went from
Nazi to porn and they had a whole 36
hours of just is craziness okay so one
that's probably a good thing in that
hear me out in that free speech is about
allowing people to say things that you
absolutely [ __ ] despise let me be
very clear the things that Kanye said I
absolutely [ __ ]
despise however I think he has a right
to say them but if the algorithm mistook
your statement for assassinate Elon a
call to violence that is adjudicated and
illegal and violates the first amendment
in which case I would want to see that
shut down because I don't want calls for
violence now you get into debates about
well when you've got somebody spewing
that kind of hate in aggregate it does
become a call to violence and I get that
I get that but I still don't think that
you can shut it down I mean I I grew up
in the age or just after when the ACLU
was fighting for the right or the
Anti-Defamation League forgive me for
not remembering which organization it
was but um they fought for the right for
Nazis to March through a holocaust uh
Survivor community in like Michigan Ohio
somewhere in the Midwest and I was like
yeah it's disgusting and you wish that
nobody thought that way but it is their
First Amendment right you don't want
people adjudicating what you can and
can't say you just don't man so listen I
was
mortified not only to see oh because
Eric Weinstein posted something that
really [ __ ] bothered me as well uh
not what he posted what people were
posting to him that he showed was
happening where people were just like
slur slur slur in his feed about
whatever he was talking about they're
just like okay slur okay I don't even
know like to say it in that context
feels like a slur even though
technically it's not
um that really makes me sad dude do do
history repeats itself in a way I don't
understand people not checking
themselves like if you find yourself uh
with someone that you hate let's say you
hate t
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