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LA immigration riots kicked off and
we're going strong for days. Trump says
it would be a good idea to arrest
Newsome. Newsome tells him to come and
do it already. Cash Patel says there's
no videos of Epstein's victims. Pen
Bondi, however, says there's tens of
thousands of them. Someone doesn't know
how to count. And Ray Dallio drops an
article titled Civil War. Drew, this
feels like a rerun of the 2020 Summer of
Love where things are burning and people
are calling it mostly peaceful. I get
that we're always being spun, that this
is a political game, all of that, but it
does admittedly get a little exhausting
in terms of rather than people actually
laying out their arguments from a
position of cause and effect, it's
always uh fighting to capture people by
the emotions and lead them instead of
down a path that is designed to get
people to a stated end goal where it's
like we can all agree yes, that is where
we want to end up. Instead of that, it's
just pure emotion. And I was interviewed
today about the economy and where things
are going. And I realized, man, I'm like
really painting this incredibly dark
picture of where this goes. Because
right now, I feel like I am on
uh a train with no breaks. And given the
physics of the human mind, the physics
of the uh political system and the
physics of the monetary system, it just
feels like conflict is the only
conceivable destination. It it something
would have to come out of left field to
stop this. It's one thing where we're
getting forced to have conflict or this
is something that's been happening for
the last hundreds of years. I think this
recent example is a bit more
manufactured than actually what's
happening. So, let's like level set very
really quick. Um, over the weekend in
Paramount, California, there was a
protest that erupted. That's where we
saw a lot of the tear gas getting
released. That's where we saw the ways
were on fire. Um, and then the following
day, the 8th, the 9th, that Saturday,
that Sunday, um LA protests happened in
different parts of the country, uh, of
the city in response to that. So, then
the next day there was a protest in
downtown LA. That's where some we saw
some of the looting of the Apple store
and another store. Um LAPD was called.
That's when the Marines were called in
as well. Sunday there was a little bit
of protest as well, but we haven't seen
any crazy footage. It kind of died down.
There was a protest Monday at LAX, but
as of right now, it seems like people
are taking their foot off the break and
now it's kind of we're taking a break.
Taking their foot off the gas or taking
their foot off the gas, excuse me. Um
and then until June 14th, this weekend
where there's supposed to be another
national organized immigration uh
protest. So just hearing the news over
the weekend, level setting, putting all
those things together, what do you think
is happening in culture right now
specifically for these protests, some
calling them riots? I think the honest
answer is that the country is divided at
the extremes, that the extremes control
the agenda. And for a very long time
now, the two parties have been pulling
away from each other. And the pulling
away has accelerated dramatically in the
last call it decade. And when I nest
that inside of the debt crisis that
we're in, uh, when I nest that inside of
the AI revolution that's coming that's
going to upend jobs, Ray Dallio wrote an
article that he dropped this week just
titled Civil War. And man, I really I
don't want to play that card as
something that is sensational. So I play
that card as something that's merely
directional. not saying like Alex Jones
would have you believe that it's
actually going to happen this weekend.
Um, but I do think that
the fences of our democracy are being
tested and that we've got people going
up to check for weaknesses in the system
uh to see if they can topple it over. I
think that there there is a derangement
that happens when a society goes well
for too long. You get to the point where
people begin to think that meals just
show up on their table uh magically,
that air conditioning works magically,
that roads are magical things that are
mana from heaven and they just fall and
that you don't have to earn uh a modern
civilization. They have no context for
something moving backwards. They have no
sense of what it looks like when a
country goes broke. Uh they have no
sense of what it looks like when a
company goes into open revolution.
revolution becomes like this buzzword,
this cool thing that people want to
somehow be a part of. Uh, with
absolutely
no view on what it would be like to live
through a level of disruption like that.
They think what they're doing is tearing
the system down, giving a finger to the
man, um upending the tables, that
they're going to end up on top, that uh
all of the people that have been
historically marginalized, to use a
very, um weaponized word that all those
marginalized people are suddenly going
to have a good time of it. And that's
not how it works. What ends up happening
is one elite group gets replaced by the
other that there is massive bloodshed
economic uh horror show and then finally
people get to the point where they they
just cannot bear the death anymore and
then the culture resets. History has
shown that you actually have to go
through that because of debt. I don't
want to make this about debt. So I'll
just say that moments like this uh come
around every time you get latestage
empire. And I know like whatever 18
months ago this was like everybody was
obsessed like when was the last time
that you thought about the fall of the
Roman Empire. Uh and then very quickly
like memes do it became sort of cliche
and we all moved on. But the reality is
this is what happens. Like you get
latestage empire and
the culture loses faith in the values
that got it where it was which is almost
always discipline, hard work, um
delayed gratification, like all of the
things that we're not willing to do
anymore. And you sit in that abundance
long enough and you get to the point
where for a whole host of reasons,
including you have economic weakness.
And so you've got people that won't take
jobs. So you want to bring in immigrants
who will work for less. I mean, it's
like literally this thing repeats and
repeats and repeats. And then you begin
to learn that when you don't have shared
values within your borders that you tear
yourself apart from within. And so it's
like when I look at it through that lens
of the
the repeating cycle of the fall of
empires and the way that it's usually on
the back of a technological revolution
AI economic problems in terms of getting
overextended with debt. We're 36
trillion in debt. Having open borders or
something close to it having a culture
that spawns weak men. It's like a tale
as old as time. And so I'm looking at
this and going, look, you can brush off
the what the LA immigration riots and be
like, all right, listen. At the end of
the day, is that really the straw that's
going to break the camel's back? No,
probably not. But when you start to go,
wait a second, people placed cinder
blocks on the street on purpose so that
they could be broken and turned into
rocks. Wait a second. There are
pamphlets all over the ground that tell
people exactly how to riot. Well, uh,
wait a second. There are there's some
organization that's dropping off face
masks. So, people are putting money
behind this stuff. Now, you do that when
you have an agenda. And is it a confused
agenda? Does this sort of latestage
empire just bring this out in people
where it's this really muddied, muddled
thing where some people feel guilty? Uh,
some people think that again this is
mana from heaven and that everybody
should have access to it and we
shouldn't have to be disciplined. Um,
I don't know because I haven't
thankfully lived through one of these
before. But the more I look at history,
the more I'm like, don't brush this
moment off because directionally we're
going in a direction that ends with open
revolt, rebellion, collapse.
So none of those things strike me as
good in physics. They say like every
force has an equal and opposite force.
And I think that it's very paramount to
bring that up right now because I think
that these riots are the exact opposite
force of Trump's deportation style. I
think when Obama deported 9 million
people, nobody blinked the eye because
they were all in detention centers by
the border sent back. And I think with
Trump weaponizing um ICE, weaponizing
the military, bringing them into
sanctuary cities when Texas is the
number two place of immigrants in the
whole nation. But there's been one Texas
uh state side overturned. He wanted to
throw the military in Chicago. In
California, in New York, it seems like
this is a politically motivated game in
order to get his base rallied and say,
"Okay, we're going after those
immigrants and if you stop us, you hate
America." where they're not going into
detention centers and trying to get
illegal immigrants broken out. They're
not going to South Central in the gangs
pulling people out. They're going to
Home Depot. They're pulling people out
of schools. They're deporting people who
have jobs here. And the the worst of
worst of them, they're not coming to
America to become a teacher to turn
their life around. The worst worst of
them are coming to America to continue
their criminal empire. So, it's one of
those things where we want to act like
we're doing this in a virtuous way. And
at the top, you know, immigration is
precious and you should respect rules
and respect law and order. You're
absolutely right. All those things are
true, but going into schools and taking
moms from kids and saying, "We're doing
this so that way this is going to help
the country." No, that's a cruel way to
do that. And I think that there's a
better way to do that. So people who are
powerless, who aren't in Senate, who
can't overturn the um executive orders,
who can't stop those deportations, they
now rally up and they want to be the
resistance force that's pushing against
those people in those tanks, in those
military military vehicles. And that's
where we're having this disconnect.
though to act like um ICE was just
walking down the street trying to rile
up some gang members and some dude threw
a brick at him and started a war. It
it's we're starting at at question seven
instead of starting at the beginning
like what caused this riot? Why do you
think these people are doing this? Do
you think that people are just bored and
they're going outside their house like
I'm bored. Let me go break some [ __ ] I
think that we need to start talking
about the causes and that first domino
that falls instead of judging the pile
of dominoes on the floor and calling it
a mess. Man, you make some really good
points, but I think that we're going to
pretty violently disagree on this one.
So, this will be fun. Uh, okay. So,
first, the things that I that you're
saying that I think are really
brilliant. Um, there is a way to do this
that agitates and there is a way to do
this that is more calming. And the fact
that Obama was deorter chief and yet did
not create this kind of backlash
certainly says something. Now, I think
that we were certainly in a different
time politically when he was in office.
There wasn't this kind of divisiveness
and just as a person, he did not elicit
the kind of response that people get
from Trump. Um, I think that, call it
what you will, but there are people that
have an allergic reaction to Trump. So,
uh, Trump derangement syndrome obviously
is the word that everybody uses. I don't
say it to be inflammatory. I just say it
to signal that there are some people
that no matter what he says or does,
it's bad. It's Hitler. It's fascism.
there's no way that they're going to be
cool with it. Uh now, if the reports can
be believed, according to Tom Hman, um
they have tried to get people at
detention centers and certainly
California is not cooperating and they
say, "Nope, you may not pick people up
in the detention centers." According to
Tom Hman, they are being forced to go
out onto the streets and pick people up
there. Now, is that true? I don't know.
But from his own mouth, uh, he has said
that they've reached out to Newsome that
they have said, "Hey, we would like to
work within the system to pull people
out of prisons, jails, detention
centers, and move them back." And
they've said no. Now, why they can't use
the executive authority there, I don't
know. So, that one, I'll admit, I was
like, "Okay, I'm going to need to look a
little bit closer on that one to see if
they had that card and didn't want to
play it and now they are playing a
political game." Trump is an extremely
astute political operative and so yeah,
I have no doubt that he is playing some
game trying to uh make a point. I don't
think in any way, shape or form he likes
feeling like um
any governor doesn't dance to his tune,
let alone Governor Nuome, who obviously
he's got beef with and they've been
going back and forth. uh he'd be a fool
to think that Newsome isn't thinking
about running um against the Democ or
the Republican party. Obviously, Trump
is not eligible uh for election. I would
just like to remind everybody and I'm
very excited about that unless that did
not come across. Uh so I I don't doubt
in any way, shape, or form that there's
um gamesmanship that's being played. But
the overwhelming thing that I thought
watching all of this unfold because you
hear people like Karen Bass, I think
Newsome said similar things, but you
hear people saying like, "Well,
everything was fine until you came in."
And my thing is, time out. This is like
saying, "Well, my kid was fine as long
as I let them play on their iPad, eat
ice cream, and not go to bed." And it's
only when I try to get them to do that
that they throw a fit. It's you can't
allow people to break the law and expect
to have law and order. And there's a
reason that people were I mean you you
can go into a normal neighborhood now
and find CVS just keeps everything
locked behind the counter because people
just going in when you could take if it
was $999 or less like you could just
leave and you weren't going to be
prosecuted. And so those kinds of
policies have had tremendous impact on
people going, "Oh, I can get away with
this stuff." And so at some point, this
is like super nanny territory where yes,
when you go to put your kid to bed,
they're going to cry and scream and
freak out. And at some point, you just
have to say, "Listen, there's a very
knowable set of rules. We're going to
adhere to those rules. We're going to be
consistent. Loving, but consistent." And
Trump is not being loving. fine, but the
goal should be consistency. But I don't
even think he's being consistent cuz the
last championship winner, whether it's
the Eagles or what, who whatever team
wins, they immediately go to the street,
they immediately light things on fire,
it's a shitty day for law enforcement
that night, everybody wakes up, goes
back to work. So to say that the line is
a car on fire in the middle of a city, I
can bring up the Cincinnati Reds winning
a championship, the Cardinals winning
and red state, blue state, uh, black
people, white people, boys, girls,
whatever like demographic you want to
add into that have excitedly celebrated
something and it looked just as chaotic.
It caused just as much property damage.
So I do I don't want to say that Karen
Bass is the most best mayor. I am
definitely not team California. I miss
Jersey every day. However, to say that
they didn't know how to maintain it made
Trump seem like the super nanny because
he's stepping on their toes. He's
saying, "I'm bringing the Marines there
cuz you guys are letting this go too
far." And Nome, the governor, saying,
"We got it." Karen is saying, "Are you
saying that we should just let them
spaz? The spaz was contained. It was
done. It was over." And then when you
start militarizing people now, I'm
shutting it down. Now you have those
agitators that are going to say, "Okay,
the military is coming. Now I'm
activated." So, it's it's it's the same
thing as um I'm trying to think of a
good analogy. Um I'm trying to stay away
from sports, but when one side decides,
"Okay, I'm going to up the ante a little
bit." The other side is naturally going
to up the ante a little bit. Yeah. And I
was in downtown LA with my 13-year-old
daughter last night on Saturday. I
didn't see a cop drive past. I didn't
feel threatened for my life. I was out
there whistling. I was right by the
convention center cor. So, to act like
LA was just in fire. It looked like
Gotham City and Trump needed to do that.
He didn't necessarily need to do that.
Now, if you want to talk about how to
police protest, how to police wild or
group organizations, that's a different
conversation. We could talk about that.
But to say every time you see a group
get rowdy and light a car on fire, that
the National Guard needs to be called
in. I can give you plenty of
celebrations that had the same exact
result that the National Guard didn't
need to come in, the next morning it was
business as usual. Even though it was a
cleanup, it was still property damage
and things like that. Palmer Lucky was
talking about this and he said, "What we
have here is basically uh a lack of
shared values. Um, we don't have
agreement." This is literally you and I.
We don't have an agreement on what is an
acceptable way to protest, what is an
acceptable way to celebrate, what is an
acceptable way apparently to do a lot of
things. If you light a car on fire, it
is a riot. I don't give a [ __ ] why
you're lighting the car on fire. We now
have a problem. If you were throwing
rocks at a car, again, I don't give a
[ __ ] why you're doing it. we now have a
problem. And so for me, it's like having
lived in LA as long as I've lived here
almost 31 years. I'm telling you, this
[ __ ] is different. Like right before I
came down where the LA riots and that
was like holy Jesus, you I just could
not fathom that you would get something
like that. And then for
almost 30 years, there was nothing. And
then 2020 hit and it was again like
pandemonium and it was so different all
of a sudden. Shops burning, cars
burning, uh people all over in the
streets. I'm buying a gun. It just felt
different, man. And so that's when I was
like, hold on a second. Like you cannot
let people run riot on the streets like
this. It's like if people want to
protest 100% but it there's a big
difference between a peaceful protest
and lighting [ __ ] on fire um threatening
violence being violent like and the uh
the setting bricks on the street and
stuff like that giving people flyers
telling them how to do it well like that
that is something different man. This is
this is manipulation because you know
humans are manipulatable. This is
getting people riled up because you
whatever. Oh my god. Like the the real
language is the behind the scenes puppet
master people whether they think they
have like a great agenda, whether they
think that they're trying to bring a
more loving and caring world. I don't
give a [ __ ] They are manipulating
people. They are trying to get them to
act like this. And I'm saying we are
living in a weird [ __ ] era where
people are leveraging that. the fact
that they can mobilize people. The fact
that we are so divided using social
media to get people into their echo
chambers to push people farther and
farther apart, not being aware of the
fact that we are in a populist moment,
which means everybody's riled up. Every
team wants to see the other team slapped
in the mouth. They want to see people be
punished for the situation that they're
in. And everybody thinks that the other
side is a [ __ ] [ __ ] and they need
to be punished. And so when you step
into something like that and you're uh
Newsome or you're uh Mayor Bass, like
you've got to let people know, hey, this
is what is acceptable and this is what's
not acceptable. And dude, when you've
got people like burning Whimos, pulling
them over, smashing them out, lighting
them on fire, which what the [ __ ] does
Whimo have to do with it? Literally
nothing. Doing donuts around it in the
middle of the street, blocking freeways.
Like I'm not even going to get into the
like waving flags of another country
that we'll get there, but right now I'm
just saying you cannot let people act a
fool like that. And so if like as a an
American citizen, forget the fact that
I'm an Angelino. As an American citizen,
I'm like, what the [ __ ] So if Nuome is
going to lock it down, great. I would
love that. I don't want to have to have
the pissing contest between the
president and the governor. Uh the mayor
is sitting there telling people, "Hey,
if you vandalize or whatever, we are
going to find you. How about you stop
them?" Like this weekend's going to be a
test. Everybody knows it's coming. So
what are they going to do? Like these
things get broadcast on social media.
It's not like there's a big mystery when
and where these things are going to
happen. And yet they're letting things
get unhinged. You've got people. So, so
with with that, right, knowing that it's
coming, knowing that it's on there,
you're you're calling out the burning of
the cars, you're calling out the bricks,
you're calling out the the response. Do
you have a problem with tear gas being
used on people? Do you have a problem
with rubber bullets,
organizing on the street, facing off?
Uh, facing off carries a lot of weight.
So, if they're facing off, like I
legitimately think that it's about to
break into violence. Yeah. Tear gas to
break it up. We'll do the the Trump
quote. You spit, I hit. So when they
face off and somebody spits on the cop,
the cop has a green light to hit him
with the stick. Hit him with the baton.
Yeah, that's aggressive. I'll I'll
admit. Uh am I here for you spit, I hit?
No. Okay. So, if I'm hearing you
correctly, you think that the police
should be monitoring but allowing the
people to organize, move freely, do the
things that they want. Yes. And you've
got to give them some grace. So,
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would just be way too easy to cause an
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And I think that's the point that I'm
trying to make is that while we were
largely talking about what happened
Friday as the LA riots again, there was
three other protests that happened the
next day, not nearly as much coverage
cuz it's people walking, people waving
flags, people with signs. And when we
see those protests, they're at this
point they're a little bit boring.
They're not fun. We want to see somebody
burn. We want to see somebody fight. We
want to see the media. If it bleeds, it
leads, right? We need to go we need to
lead with that. So, we keep having these
cycle of like, well, look at this is
cars are on fire and ALA is descending
into total chaos.
If you go outside, 97% of Angelinos
didn't even run into the protest. The
other 3% It's interesting, Drew.
Recently, I thought of an analogy that
now really helps me understand the
difference when I'm talking to somebody.
There's two levels of analysis for
society. Mhm. Think of society as a
group of people in a car. There's what's
happening in the car and then there's
pulling outside the car and seeing where
the car is headed. I'm outside the car
and I see the car is about to drive off
a cliff. That's what I believe. You may
also be outside the car, but you don't
see that. You don't think that the car
is about to drive off a cliff. Are we
still talking about that or are we
talking about the immigration rights?
We're talking about immigration. Okay.
So, when I see the what's going on here,
I'm not in the car. I'm up high. I'm
looking at it and I'm like, "Oh, this is
all a part of a bigger moment that
repeats over and over and over and over
and over in history." And it's revolt,
civil war, revolution, or external war.
And they happen at this time in the debt
cycle, which of course is why you were
asking about that. But
just looking at what's happening in the
car, yeah, it doesn't seem like that big
of a deal. We go back to business as
usual. Mhm. Um but take the riots in
whatever 92. Mhm. And next riots are
2020.
Then we go from 2020 to 2025 and we get
the next batch of riots. That's speeding
up a lot. And what I'm saying is America
is being torn apart. And when I pull
outside the car, I'm like, "Oh, this
keeps escalating."
And you sound dumb. Not you, me, but
those who say things like, "Oh, there
might be a civil war coming." They sound
dumb until it kicks off. And I was
thinking today, I was like, I'm going to
call nine out of the next one civil
wars. I get that. M I get that the
prediction will hopefully fail to come
true and that I'm just being overly
paranoid, but never been paranoid
before. I can feel I could document the
beats that have created a feeling of
change in me. This isn't just an
emotional thing. This is like the more I
do deep dives and the deep dives for me
are strictly about creating cause and
effect. the more I feel like Peter Aia,
if you guys don't know him, he was on
the show. He's actually a medical
doctor. That's what he's famous for. Uh
but he was an oncologist who just was so
burnt out. I was like, I can't do this
anymore. You just see watch people die
all the time. He's like, I can't keep
doing this. And so for a while, he went
in and worked in um
mathematics and actuarial science. and
he was at a bank and they were looking
at subprime mortgages and he runs all
the facts and he goes um
America's going to go bankrupt that the
economy is going to implode. It is a
mathematical certainty. And this was
like in 2006.
And so his job was to tell the banks,
okay, you've been doing this thing for
the last whatever 10 years. Mhm. There's
no way out. You are going to die
and now it's just about watching it play
out.
Same thing when you take he obviously
ended up being right. By the way, this
is the 2008 collapse. Mhm. And he was
like, it was so surreal to just see the
numbers and be like, "Oh, there's there
is no way out." Yeah. So, I'll give
people a stat. Uh
12 out of the last 16 times
that a
declining power met a rising power. 12
out of those 16 times it ends in war.
Only four times was war averted. So, we
are three times more likely that this
ends in bloodshed than we are that oh,
this ends up being nothing and Tom was
an alarmist and we had nothing to worry
about. Okay, those are terrible odds. If
you were in Vegas, you bet on that all
day long because you 3X, baby. Mhm. So,
that's
where we're at. That's this moment. And
so I'm like, yes, if you want to have
any shot of being the fifth time that we
avoid the war instead of the 13th time
that we go to war, uh you absolutely
must start
being disciplined now, reigning some of
this back in, pulling people back to the
middle,
figuring out who's doing the agitating
and why. have open conversations about
where we want to go as a country instead
of surreptitious
um DA level [ __ ] like I think what
you're about to see is Elon running the
Soros playbook and
that that will be horrifying as in
establishing a new party controlling it
Soros was uh go to the local election
level they're really cheap win them over
get district attorneys that match your
politics and just do it really quietly
across the entire country. Uh and then I
mean Soros supposedly, I haven't looked
deeply enough, is doing this all over
the world. And so you just very slowly
terraform ideologically the world. And
it's like the classic case of you're
planting a tree under uh whose shade you
will never get to sit, but you just go
this I'm making the world over in the
image that I want. And if it ends up
being a bunch of um
extraordinarily wealthy people doing
social engineering,
um I couldn't hate that more because
that is a bunch of people that are
utterly convinced that they're right.
And I hate that Soros has been doing it
for God knows how long and I will hate
it if Elon starts it. even if he's
trying to do it to combat it, it's just
man, that is not I I feel a bit
polyianish saying this because I'm
talking about the world the way that I
wish it were, not the way that it
actually is. But I really
I don't want that. I don't want to live
in that system where it's just like all
happening in back rooms, local elections
from guys with huge piles of cash. I I
hear that. That that's a good point. I
want to take a step back though with
your framing of the question. Um I was
thinking of analogy like if you see
something in a metal can with a label
and the substance inside is floating in
a liquid. Most people like oh it's a can
of soup or something. Okay. But it also
could be like baked beans or it can also
be like sauerkraut. So there's other
objects that are wrapped in cans with
items floating in like a liquid. So,
with that being as a framing, going back
to this specific moment, what I'm
hearing from my friends on the left, uh,
I have a communist friend. I love her to
death. I don't agree with eight of the
10 things out of her mouth. But one
thing that she is very accurate in this
specific moment is there is a resistance
to the immigration policies that are
happening right now because people are
seeing the villainization of immigrants
similar to the villainization of other
marginalized groups. So the same people
who said, "Oh, if the Hitler was here, I
would be hiding in Frank." No, you'll
probably be yelling at the Jews for
illegally protesting against it, you
will be trying to say they need to go
home and listen to the cops and things
like that. And people see this in that
moment. So how would you frame it for
those people that are coming from it?
And wholeheartedly, I'm not We'll put
the paid actors to the side. You know,
I'm a moderate according to Ray Dalio.
My head's going to roll first. Like a
moderates and the elites, they die in
the revolution first. So I'm I'm out of
here. Um, but just understanding that a
lot of people really think we're
fighting fascism part two. I need to be
this resistant because this is what the
people in 1940 didn't do and that's how
Adolf Hitler won versus this is just a
law and order thing and you guys are are
fighting for the wrong side. I think
there's a different narrative across
those two sides. What do you say to that
Frammy? Uh my thing is in business you
always ask if you're attempting to do
something always ask has this ever been
done well before and if it is and you go
back and you look at that thing and you
say okay cool like what happened here
and
to your specific friend about communism
I will say it's never been done well and
when you find yourself having to make
excuses or say things like the most
recent one I heard uh the first four
years of Soviet um Russia was amazing
and then it just became a bureaucratic
mess. It's like, bro, at some point
you've got to recognize that those ideas
do not line up with the way that humans
actually are. Um so
this is why I find myself and I'm I'm
going to have to decide what I'm going
to do about this. Am I going to force
myself to take a optimistic view or am I
going to um just journalistically
list all of the um beats that I see us
going down that have cause and effect
tied to them. This is Ray Dallio's
approach. So Ray Dallio is very gentle
with the words that he uses because he's
really just following cause and effect.
And so he doesn't want to be alarmist
and I appreciate that about him. Um, but
it really does seem like there's an
inevitability to what's going on right
now. So, I can give you a
prognostication of exactly what has to
be done. I just don't think I believe
that people will do it until they suffer
tremendously. Uh, and so people have
some really delusional sense of what a
revolution looks like and uh they're
horrible. Like even in France when heads
were rolling and there was like a
euphoria. Um after a couple years you
don't even want to see anymore. You
don't want to see another person
beheaded like yeah like you got it. Yes.
Okay. I guess we got what we wanted. And
so it just becomes
the revolution is like an on switch and
it's really hard to turn off. Mhm. So
Napoleon had to reorient people to the
Napoleonic wars. That was like once the
blood lust gets going like you got to
point it at something and it was just
eating France alive from the inside. And
so you needed remember he ends up
crowning himself [ __ ] emperor. So you
get that kind of energy to wrangle
people once they click over into that
like anim animalistic place. Mhm. Um,
so wanting to see people avoid that kind
of blood lust, I'm like, okay, let's lay
out what is the cause and effect here.
Where do we think this goes? Uh, the
debt is a huge part of this. And
unfortunately, I repeat myself because
whenever you're talking at the level of
physics, there's only so many things
that are true. Debt and money printing
are driving all of your problems.
Everything is born out of that.
That's not the level at which people
experience it. They experience it at the
level of um these groups are being
marginalized and uh immigration policies
are just another way to be cruel to a
marginalized group. Okay. Uh that isn't
true. So let's backtrack. What is
happening? What's happening is you're
likely part of the tribe that is um what
we in political language would call
left-leaning. So you are designed to be
compassionate. Like that's the dominant
lens through which you view the world.
And so when people feed that and they
say that's a just world, the way that
you think about it is just. The way that
these greedy pigs think about it, that's
unjust and they need to be stopped and
they're the new Nazis and this is your
chance to show that you really would
hide Anne Frank in your attic. That you
really would stand up to Trump who is
the next Hitler. The problem is they're
miscatategorizing what's happening. So
what they don't understand is this isn't
the 1940s. This is the 1930s. This is um
why Germany on the edge of
hyperinflation. Populism is rising and
out of this moment will be born the next
Hitler. And what we should all want to
avoid is
deficit spending into oblivion because
as we do that then we're going to find
ourselves in a very bad situation where
you're going to need a draconian person
to come in and say this is exactly what
we're going to do and how we're going to
do it. We're going to confiscate wealth.
I mean this is exactly Hitler's
playbook. I'm going to get us back on
track economically. We're going to steal
everything from the Jews. That's going
to help the economy. We're going to
invade these other nations and we're
going to take all their resources.
That's going to help with the economy.
We're going to ignore the Treaty of
Versailles. We're going to stop paying
those debts. We're also going to ignore
the Treaty of Versailles and start
building our military. It's like that's
the response when the economic breaks to
the point where people are now suffering
so much they're like, I just need
somebody to fix this. Chiming in right
there. You don't see any parallels over
like that list over what we're seeing
now in that moment where you're talking
about the authoritarian bent of Trump.
Yeah. Yeah. So, everything that Trump
does that's authoritarian is [ __ ]
dangerous, horrific, and every time he's
taking a step down that path, like
that's dangerous. People need to scream.
The question is where is actually that
line? And what I'm saying is that line
isn't there's a law and we're going to
uphold it. That's why I'm saying they're
miscatategorizing what's happening with
uh immigrants. So, for instance, I think
it would be extremely wise of Trump to
uh find a path like if you've been here
five or 10 years, man, you don't have a
criminal record. You're paying taxes,
which is crazy. As an illegal immigrant,
you can actually get an ability to pay
taxes. It's crazy. I didn't know that.
Uh
that's weird. But anyway, uh they're
they're here. They're paying their
taxes. Like, find them a path. There's
humanity in that. Too many people know
beautiful human beings. They came here
illegally, but they're good people. And
by the way, you are in the moment that
you're in. People are extremely
suspicious of you. So, do conspicuous
acts of kindness. Pull uh a killer
immigrant story into the surface uh into
the spotlight. People that you want to
help and you want to see. This is the
kind of person we want to see thrive. uh
they're here, they're raising a family,
they're paying taxes, like they've got
American values. Doesn't matter where
they're from, but they've got American
values. Like, [ __ ] yeah. Like, those are
the kinds of people. That would be a
huge win for he's constitutionally
incapable. He is not going to do it. But
understanding that saying, uh here are
the laws. We are going to abide by them.
And just because you push back does not
mean I'm going to back off. like we and
also have some empathy for the other
side. And I'll even take this one. Uh
values matter. Mhm. And America will get
torn apart if we don't plant a flag and
say these are the values that we stand
for. And anybody that's pushing back
against that, um we've got beef. So
seeing a bunch of people in the streets
waving Mexican flags is crazy. That's
crazy. If I was in Mexico lighting
things on fire and waving an American
flag, I would expect them to have a real
[ __ ] problem. In fact, if what I have
found in my research can be believed, it
is actually illegal in Mexico, if you
are a non-citizen for you to protest,
even peacefully publicly, not allowed to
do it. So, that makes sense. And I think
when we think about somebody else, we
go, "Yeah, that makes sense." But we
don't do that here. So, I'm just saying,
listen, peaceful protesting all day. I
highly encourage Trump [ __ ] bury
those weird authoritarian impulses you
have, bro. They are going to take you
down a dark [ __ ] path. They're going
to push people farther away from you.
You will rapidly become, if you're not
already, a president for half the
country who literally does not give a
[ __ ] about the other half. That is
[ __ ] suicide. Don't do it.
find the humanity in this situation. Map
out very publicly what we want to see
from what I call foreignb born
Americans. I love that America has
people from all over the world. We
should want the best and the brightest
and the most loving and the most tax
abiding and all of that tasty [ __ ] But
where we have to get to is agreement on
if we've got laws and they're being
violated, especially if the president
said, "This is what I'm going to do and
that's how he was elected and now he's
coming in and doing that thing and
people aren't standing up." And if this
had been peaceful and then Trump had
brought Marines in, that would be crazy.
But
there was a lot of [ __ ] burning. And
anybody that tries to make out like
these were peaceful protests, LA's
gigantic. Of course, this is only going
to happen in like small areas. But in
those small areas,
stop. Arrest the people that are doing
it. Simple as
once people see, oh, the laws are going
to be enforced. Then they're going to
chill the [ __ ] out. You have to be deaf.
You cannot overplay your hand. You don't
want to go into areas where nothing is
popping off. You don't want to institute
curfews like this. obviously can spill
into police state real fast and then
that would be disgusting on Trump and he
becomes instantly the problem. Um but
right now in California people have been
able to get away with the most
outlandish [ __ ] Um arrests have been
made so pe people have been cracked
down. Um I got this stat from um I think
his name is Kaizen the black dude that
Elon keeps retweeting. Um Elon's black
friend. Uh he said that this all started
over 118 um migrants that they were
going after um illegals that they were
going after in California. It cost 134
million to deploy the National Guard all
in taxes, fees included. Um
it cost 17K to deport one person. So
somebody who is trying to pass a bill
that's going to raise a deficit spending
nine figures to crack down on a 100
people. Now, mind you, if it was the
hundred people trying to start the
Sharia law city in Texas, maybe it's a
different story. I might be able to lean
to the right, close my eyes, and be
like, "Okay, I get that." But do you
think that there is a economic reason
that maybe we can be spending our time
in other places versus immigration? Um,
I mean, there is certainly a case to be
made to spend your money in other
places, but what I will say are what are
the big threats that you've got? And for
four years, you had an open border. So
you have, no one agrees on the numbers,
but millions and millions and millions
and millions of people that have come in
illegally uh that some certainly are not
assimilating. Some certainly are violent
criminals. Uh and so part of this is you
have to draw a line in the sand and say
these are going to be enforced now.
They're going to be enforced in this
way. Uh, and I was just talking to
somebody. I won't rat them out, but I
was just talking to somebody who um had
originally come here legally and they
got their papers,
lovely person, and very happy that
they've managed to become a citizen now.
It's awesome. And this person has a
sibling that's here, and they are um
piecing out. They're like, lot of
uncertainty, gotta go. And so,
yes, this is like if you just look at
the numbers of all the people that you
actually deport,
uh, you're probably not going to be able
to make the math work, but showing that
this is a place of discipline that does
work. And there's a hilarious Yeah.
uh skit from South Park where they're
like, "You want to know how to we deal
with uh ADD in my classroom?" And the
kids are all freaking out and he slaps
the [ __ ] out of the first one and the
kid like, "Whoa, whoa, what?" And he
starts crying. Goes to the second one,
he's still freaking out. Slaps the [ __ ]
out of him. He like, "Oh, I got what?"
He gets calm and then the third one just
calms down on his own. And it's like,
yeah, you obviously a joke, but if you
start enforcing
the rules, people will adhere to the
rules. If you don't enforce the rules,
then you won't. And the interesting
thing is to me this is really a question
about do we believe in personal property
or not? And
that I think is a big thing at the heart
of the cultural debate right now is is
because of the damage we're going that
way. That's part of it. But no, it comes
down to if you believe in personal
property, then a whole bunch of things
echo out from that. So, um if you
believe in personal property, then uh if
you come into my house, you can expect a
violent response. California either
already has made that illegal or has
presented a bill to make that illegal.
Meaning if you break into my house, I
have to flee.
What? That's [ __ ] crazy. Uh versus to
stay in your ground in Florida and Texas
where I have a right to defend. This is
my house. You got to be [ __ ] kidding.
If you come in with intent to harm me
and I can't defend myself, that's
somebody who doesn't believe in personal
property cuz my body is my ultimate
property. Mhm. Uh my house is my
property. But a nation, a state
property. And so if you're not allowed
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back to the show. Drew, one thing we
have to look at is Michael
Shelonburgger. He really explains very
well. Uh my sort of rough take but
eloquently explained on what's going on
with the riots. The fact of the matter
is that the people who run California
don't see the riots as a crisis. They
see them as a cleansing. They believe
civilization itself in the form of its
laws, its borders, and its police is
corrupt at the root. In that worldview,
civilization is not progress. It's
crime. It's what made the conquest of
indigenous people possible. It's what
permitted slavery. It's what created
capitalism, fossil fuels, families with
two parents, and fixed addresses. To
them, the entire American project is a
centuriesl long atrocity masquerading as
democracy. In their view, public order
is not something to protect, it's
something to dismantle. The violence we
see in the streets is not a failure of
their leadership. It's the fulfillment
of their ideology. They believe the very
existence of American law enforcement is
an expression of white supremacy. The
burden of all this doesn't fall on the
celebrities or the influencers or the
politicians who created it. Falls on the
working people and the poor. On the
elderly, on the immigrants who follow
the law, on the single mothers trying to
keep their kids safe, on the nurses and
teachers and cashiers and delivery
drivers who can't afford to leave. It
falls on the people who believed that if
they worked hard and obeyed the rules,
the state would protect them. Instead,
the state has turned its back on them.
And all the while, we're told that the
law is the enemy. The truth is, the law
is what makes life liveable. It's what
allows strangers to live alongside one
another. It's what allows parents to
send their kids to school, to open a
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the rest of this video and read the rest
of the article. That really does a
phenomenal job of summing up what I am
trying to get across, but did not say
nearly as eloquently.
it. I feel like it was a bingo board of
like 2020 terms and he was just like
knocking them off because
it's easy to say this is the problem
with California and you group up the
last 30 years and place it at this
moment in this day. Uh but as he was
making that list at the end like it's
illegal. You could get cited for
watering your lawn but it's not illegal
to have a meth lab next to a school.
Like it it still is legal. There is
still some type of law and order and I
just don't want us to go off the rails
with what happened this weekend as
California's in total chaos. Put the
whole thing in rice. But put the whole
thing in rice. Uh so when you look at
California, everything is fine. I think
that's a jump. I didn't say that. So
give me um so talk directionality for a
second. Uh maybe you disagree with a few
things with him, but directionally you
get where he's coming from. or like this
guy is so far out over his skis like
this is nonsensical he's blowing it out
of proportion. Copy directionally. I get
what he's saying in the sense that
California has allowed people's feelings
to dictate policy and that isn't always
the best way to set policy for the
masses.
However, to say that
Californians think the problem with this
weekend is white supremacy and that's
why we went to Right. Like that was just
a buzz word that he's know was going to
it's kind of like that's going to
invigorate a certain type of person to
then fight back and say, "Yeah, that's
what's Roman California where I don't
think so." So, this goes back to what I
was saying with the um there is
there is almost certainly Marxist
ideology underneath all of this trying
to tear down the capitalist structure.
uh this is the collision of values that
I'm saying that we're going to have to
wade our way through the the when he
says white supremacy I have a feeling he
feels the way I feel when I talk about
the debt where I'm like I whenever I'm
not saying debt I'm just arguing at a
different level of analysis because it's
all an echo of the debt it's all an echo
of the debt it's it's debt and money
printing that's all that matters
everythi