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Elon launches the America Party. The
Epstein files finally released, but move
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has been turned into a PvP server.
The Big Beautiful bill passed over the
weekend. Uh Trump signed it on July 4th
and as Elon promised, the American party
was started the next day.
All right. So, when the Big Beautiful
bill was signed, I realized, and I'm not
kidding at all, uh America is going to
go bankrupt.
That that was like a breaking point for
me where I was like, whoa, like this is
actually going to happen. Uh, I will
continue to write deep dives and talk
about this topic endlessly, but at some
point I realize I'm only speaking to
individuals who can protect themselves.
I mean, obviously, I hope that enough
people do something that makes sense for
themselves, uh, that it ends up having a
ripple in terms of how people think
about government spending, how they
think about fiscal responsibility, how
they think about money printing, how
they think about debt. Um, but I no
longer think that there is a party to
elect that won't print money.
Um, I mean, we'll see. I think you're
way more optimistic about the American
party than I am. I think that it is
inevitably going to be a spoiler party
that will right now it will be most
closely aligned with the Republican
party, so it'll put the kibos on them.
Um, but I think ultimately on a long
enough run, if you have a third party
that is as wellunded as Elon Musk could
make it,
you are whatever party is closest to the
America party will be the one that gets
their vote split.
I think a lot of people at this point
are politically homeless and I think
that there are a lot of non-magga
fiscally conservative Republicans and I
think on the left side there's a lot of
I don't want socialist communist in
America Democrats. And I think over the
years those people have had to kind of
bite the bullet. Lesser of two evils
voted for candidates they weren't really
excited about. So in my take I think
that 10 15 20% of Democratic parties uh
loses and goes into the American party.
I think 10 to 20% of the Republicans
kind of go and instead of it being a 48
49 that we seen for the last few
elections it becomes more a race to 37 a
race to 40 type thing. Um and it kind of
spreads that. So, I'm more optimistic
that this third party would actually
help the politically homeless who want
to have a nononsense if you could do
whatever you want to do. I just don't
want to federally pay for it. I want to
have a balanced budget. I want to make
sure that we're the money that we do
spend in government is going toward
education programs and certain things
like that versus senators and uh House
representatives that's been there for 40
years. So, I think there is a silver
lining in all this. I don't know if
Elon's the guy to do it, but I voted
third party last election. I am team
third party. I think that's the one
missing component in politics that we
actually need in America.
All right. Um I'm going to plant my flag
strong so I can see over time if I end
up being correct. I you know me. I'm not
afraid to be wrong. But I really feel
strongly right now that it's going to
play out exactly as history dictates
that it will play out. You're in a
populist moment. We are at the extremes.
Not because there's no other party, but
because people are mad. They are
emotional. uh until they are not mad,
until there is a thriving middle class,
until they do not have a vision of uh
their country as this terrible horrible
place, until they um and whether they
think it's terrible, horrible because
communists and socialists are trying to
run away with it or they think it's
terrible and horrible because it's a
right-wing uh asane asylum. Like there
are so many people right now or because
we're on stolen land. Ah, like all of
the reasons why people may think that
this is a terrible place. Until people
think my kids' lives are going to be
better than mine, that I'm going to be
able to pay off my debt, I'm going to be
able to buy a house. Until they believe
that, they're going to be in their
feels. And as long as they're um in an
emotional state, history says that they
will vote for a strong man who will slap
the other side around.
That's what people want want right now.
That's what they're going to vote for.
And the first people to die in a
revolution are the moderates in the
middle. And part of the reason is that
they're getting attacked from both
sides. And part of the reason is they're
just not that big of a constituency. So
I think that there's like what do they
consider in terms of um I know that the
split on the vote between in the last
election was like less than 2% between
people that voted for Kla Harris versus
people that voted for Donald Trump.
Yeah. Based on the popular vote
uh and then I think swing voters are
like 7%. So it is it is a small number.
So even if 100% of the swing voters go
for the America party, that's still not
even remotely close enough to do
anything other than you have to get the
party to go, okay, listen, dear America
party, we need you to bring all of your
votes to us. And so you will see that
you'll see a battle for that middle
party to get them to endorse somebody.
So it will become that. Uh but I don't
think it's it's ever going to become a
uh thing where it gets 35 40% of the
vote and now oh finally all of us sane
people that make up some huge number uh
we have a place to go and like you I am
politically homeless like you well you
actually did vote for RFK. I had a rule
that if he wasn't going to be on all of
them I knew he was going to lose and I
didn't want to do a protest vote because
I actually thought uh that maybe we
could get some fiscal uh conservatism.
We obviously did not get that. Not by a
long shot. And some part of me knew. I
look I was conflicted in the beginning.
I thought maybe just maybe that with all
of the Doge talk and all of that that we
actually Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. some some
meaningful cuts. Um, the more I studied
history though, the more I studied the
uh, modern monetary theory and the way
that the big debt cycle goes, the more I
realized, oh, I'm not sure if you could
elect anybody at this point that would
not print because you have to
fundamentally change the system. Now,
maybe Elon sees it well enough to
understand the Fed has to go. He
certainly pays attention to Rand Paul. I
think he's acknowledged Ron Paul in the
past uh who were I don't know if Rand
Paul has said it but Ron Paul certainly
has said you just have to abolish the
Fed.
So in fact he wrote a book literally
with that title.
Um so we'll see. But the half the
country absolutely despises Elon Musk.
So
he's probably not your guy anyway.
Yeah. So because of the populist moment
that we're in right now, you think
regardless American party, if Elon and
John Stewart and all the celebrities and
people that we use to offset our
political leanings to, if they even if
they got together and somehow somehow
came with a coalition of people, it's
just not the right moment for this
party, you think, or is it just
It's not the right moment for the party
for sure. uh and those people will never
come together anymore than Elon and
Trump did and they will
uh end up shattering into a bunch of
other little parties and so there there
is a reason that these things like break
apart
there as much as I do not like the
political outcomes that we're seeing
right now
I don't know that having a bunch of
parties is the answer now again this is
not the thing that I've gone super deep
on but every week I go a little bit
deeper and a little bit deeper and every
week I'm like huh My original intuition
seems like it's going to play out.
I know we have a clip from Ron DeSantis.
Let's play the clip from Ronda Santis
and I'll give you more on that.
When you do another party, especially if
you're running on some of the issues
that he talks about, you know, that
would end up if he funds Senate
candidates and House candidates and
competitive races, that would likely end
up meaning the Democrats would win all
the competitive Senate and House races.
And so, look, I'm a Republican. You
know, I don't want to see that happen.
Uh, I think if you wanna um, you know,
get get involved and hold accountable,
you know, we do have a problem in the
Republican party with these con DC
congressmen, they always run saying
there's out of control spending and
they're going to spend less and they
never do it. The reason that neither
party is ever going to stop printing is
as we've talked about in the deep dive,
the modern monetary theory, you
actually, and that is the system we
have, you actually must, as a matter of
physics, print more money to pay the
interest on your debt.
So there is no way to not print more
money. Now, if you're going to print
more money, you have to have a reason to
print money. And right now, the deficit
is the reason. And because you're in a
populist moment, all of the voters on
every side are like, I want to get my
piece of the pie. They have a an
emotional intuitive sort of vibe about
the American dream is dead. They're not
going to be able to articulate why.
They're just going to say everything's
too expensive.
And because they can't get into a house,
because they're buried under debt, they
just want somebody to come in and make
sure that they get a piece of the pie,
whatever the pie is. And like when you
feel like you're fighting for your
survival, it's like give me my stuff. I
don't care what happens to other people.
Just get me mine.
And so when you elect somebody whose job
is to get you yours, then all of a
sudden, yeah, it's like I don't care
that we're going to spend money. They
don't understand that America actually
will go broke. And I'm going to say
within the next 10 years.
Um so like that feels now self-evident.
Obviously, I hold out in the most deep
recesses of my soul, I hold out hope
that we will change course. But if we
don't change course, America will go
bankrupt. That that's it's math. You
think that Trump's got if he um he
himself has three and a half more years.
So now you're you know talking what six
and a half years left. Uh if he passes
the baton to anybody as far as I can
tell, Democrat, Republican, won't
matter. Uh rep I think your only chance
your only chance is to get a Republican
who is fiscally conservative and that's
not gonna happen. Uh so
I I don't I don't think there's anybody
to pass the torch to. So now you're just
like the only thing that will get us to
change course is pain and suffering.
Yeah. I like that Dantis took a
constitutional approach. Let's keep
listening. Honestly, if you're concerned
about the debt, I wouldn't even worry
about that because I don't think just
electing a few better people is going to
change the trajectory. We need the
incentives in Washington uh are going to
lead to these outcomes really regardless
of the outcome of elections at this
point. So, you need to do a balanced
budget amendment to the US Constitution.
And you can do that through the states.
You can do it through article 5. We've
got 28 states that have approved this.
there's another four or five that are on
the docket. Once you hit 34, then you
write an amendment and then the states
are able to ratify that. You need three
quarters. Um, you know, if Elon wanted
to weigh in on that and work on those
state legislative,
term limits and having a balanced budget
uh amendment into the constitution.
Yep. I like that this is a
constitutional approach, something that
we don't talk about enough. We always
want to legislate it, come up with a new
policy, print more money, where the
founding fathers kind of gave us these
backdoor ways in the original document
that we should be utilizing a little bit
more.
Yeah. Watching this clip one, you can
feel he's groping for this is a
structural problem. We need to solve
this structurally.
uh I don't I doubt very much that he
understands economics well enough to
understand what the real root problem is
but at least his solution will start
marching you down that road. Now the
problem is because you still have modern
monetary theory even if you put in a
fiscally balanced budget uh mark my
words you would have some other crisis
that would allow for more money printing
because again if you don't money print
you can't pay the interest
so you have to money print because there
isn't enough money in the world. It's
like once you understand how this
actually works. I mean I mean that
literally if people have not watched my
deep dive on this every dollar in
circulation is tied to nothing. it came
into existence as an interestbearing
loan. That means that if there's uh
let's just say a trillion dollars, you
print a trillion dollars. Okay? Well,
you owe a trillion and $50 billion in
interest. But in this example, only a
trillion dollars exists. So, where do
you get the 50 billion? You have to
print again. And that's exactly what
we've been doing. That that isn't a uh
it's not speculative fiction. That's
actually what we've done. So every
dollar that we've created since 1913
when we created the uh Federal Reserve
Act or we created the Federal Reserve
with the Federal Reserve Act um
we have been printing money into
existence is not backed by anything like
it used to be. Uh it's just fiat. So uh
every dollar that comes into existence
you owe some percentage on in the
neighborhood of 5% and the only way to
pay that is to print more money. It's
absolutely absurd. is the system. And I
know right now if people are
encountering that idea for the first
time, they're confused. They don't even
understand what I'm saying because they
cannot comprehend that money comes into
existence as an interestbearing loan.
That there is a company, a semi-private
company owned by dudes and dudetses who
who literally are the only people that
get to go, "My product is made up. It's
made up." Drew, imagine you're Nike. You
don't have to make shoes. You just get
to say the shoes exist and you give
people like uh a piece of paper that
says you own a pair of shoes, but you
don't actually own a pair of shoes. Like
this is insane. And because I don't have
to go source the materials and get
somebody to make it, my product just
magically exists and people have to pay
me interest on it. Oh my god. Like
people cannot believe that that's true.
That every word I just said is true.
Okay. So what what I'm hearing is for
every dollar there's a $15 owed back to
it automatically.
However, if we were balanced budget,
fiscally responsible, we collect 4
trillion in taxes theoretically,
couldn't we pass a $3.5 trillion budget
and then leave that surplus quote
unquote to be interest bearing payments
or something like that?
Because you dude, you made the trillion
dollars.
Mhm.
But you owe a trillion and 50 billion.
No matter now, let's say you don't spend
any of that trillion, you owe a
trillion50 billion, but you only have a
trillion. You are always, even if you
pay back all of the principal, you still
have $50 billion in interest payments.
And by the way, if you don't pay all the
50 billion in interest payments as you
go, it goes up even more. So, you have
to print even more money. And guess what
we're doing? We are racking up debts.
We're at 36 trillion and climbing. We
add like a trillion dollars every 100
days.
Insane but true.
Uh and your interest payments are going
up, which means you have to print more
and more money. So what's the real game?
The real game is the bankers understand
you're never going to be able to pay
that money back. But what do they care?
It was all free. They made it up out of
thin air. So every dollar they get in
interest payments is free money for
them.
In 1913,
the 25% of the world's wealth met in
secret on Jackal Island and they came up
with this plan called the Federal
Reserve. And this was the whole game.
We'll loan people money that we make up
out of thin air. They'll pay us
interest. We'll get the interest and
then uh we know it blows up at some
point, but as long as taxpayers are
forced to bail us out and the real
economy is still turnurning out money,
it will blow up. a bunch of people will
get killed in revolution or civil war.
It is what it is. We just make sure that
it's not us. And as long as it's not us
on the other side of this, we get bailed
out and we just keep the system going
because people do not understand this is
how the system works. And so you've
already and that's why I'm saying they
will make up a if if we balance a
budget, I'm being a little flippant when
I say this, but it is so directionally
correct. If we balance the budget, we
will go to war because they need a
reason to print the money and to keep
the interest rolling in. They need it
and they're just going to keep number go
up. And uh I don't think I have to I
mean go watch the deep dive. I go
through all the wars we've had since
1913. It is hysterical. It it it is
essentially constant. I forget the exact
percentage, but it's something like this
is so close to accurate. 86%
of the years between the founding of the
Federal Reserve and today uh some war
that we've been involved in has been
taking place.
Sheesh.
And that justifies the additional
printing, the additional interest
because bro, it's national emergency. We
got to go handle this. And so, uh the
only way to meet these deficits is to
print money. And now that you have a
populist moment, great. because now
everybody is demanding for deficit
spending and so the deficit just covers
it all. But listen, we should balance
the budget. And the reason we should
balance the budget is because you at
least slow the train down.
And uh far better for you to slow the
train down and hope that you can do
something like make AI so um productive
that you can grow your way out of this.
Because if you can balance the budget
and grow your way out through
productivity, then and only then would
you not have a problem. Because you can
print money. I can't believe I'm going
to say this. Because you can print money
and you won't feel the negative effects.
The way that this works, the reason that
inflation isn't one for one for every
dollar that's printed is right now
entrepreneurs are working themselves
near to death to innovate. that
innovation is secretly driving costs
down. Now, you don't know that and you
don't feel that. You feel like costs are
just going up because for every dollar
that an innovative entrepreneur can
drive the cost of something down, then
the government can inflate the currency,
print money, uh to eat up all of that
before you notice. M
and so when you feel 2% inflation or as
from 2020 to 2025 there was sorry 2020
to 2024 there was 25% inflation.
Yeah.
Uh the reason that when you feel that
they've eaten up all of the
depressive nature of innovation. So they
gobble through all of that and then
print more.
Sheesh. So it almost feels like it's
more than the 25%.
It doesn't feel like it. It is way more.
If people understood when when you look
at the graph, I don't know if you can
put your fingers on it fast enough, but
there's a graph that shows um I think
it's the M2 money supply and it shows
like how dramatically in like the last
30 years that we've inflated money. It
it is heartbreaking because you realize
that they have gobbled up all of the
innovation plus
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And now, let's get back to the show.
Okay, we opened the show with it. This
Epstein list. Um, people have been
waiting for it. We got binders. We got
press junkets. We had Pam Bondi saying
it was sitting on our desk.
I need to know that you guys are all
looking at your phones right now.
Whatever you're doing, stop. You've got
to see this meme. This is too fun.
I feel like Elon nailed it perfectly. U,
we will release the Epstein list. We
will need We just need more time. The
Epstein list is on my desk. There is no
Epstein list. full clown suit.
Um, oh my god. Let's I don't even know
where to begin on this one. Let's start
with the uh
start with the Cash Patel on Benny
Johnson on his show saying uh why why
somebody would hide the list. This is
Cash Patel everybody.
Simple because of who's on that list.
You don't think that Bill Gates is
lobbying Congress night and day to
prevent the disclosure of that list? And
why is it that the Senate, you know, and
good for Senator Blackburn to try to get
it out, but then Dick Turban comes over
the top and says, "No, we're not going
to release the names. I don't care about
the list itself, but he released the
names, right? What the hell are the
House Republicans doing? They have the
majority. You can't get the list. You're
going to accept Dick Durban's word or
whoever that guy is as to who is on that
list and who isn't and that it can and
can't be released. Put on your big boy
pants and let us know who the pedophiles
are. We have an election coming up and
we need to adjudicate this matter at the
polls. God knows the FBI and DOJ aren't
going to do anything. But how are you
going to
That's Cash Patel, the now FBI director.
Uh we we need to play Cash Patel's
updated language.
Don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen,
they have a right to their opinion, but
as someone who has worked as a public
defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in
that prison system, who's been in the
Metropolitan Detention Center, who's
been in segregated housing, um, you
know, a suicide when you see one, and
that's what that was.
He killed himself. You again, you want
me to I've I've seen the whole file. He
killed himself.
I know it's hard work.
The so interesting. Listen, I want to
make sure everybody understands. I have
no idea what happened. I have no idea
what's on the list. This is like a full
conspiracy corner, but boy oh boy, uh
this seems ridiculous to me that um
okay, you've got Glain Maxwell in prison
for what exactly? If this is just Epste
was trafficking people to Epstein
himself, uh that there were no other
names. um that nobody else is on the
list that all of the video footage is
just him. Uh the footage that they
release, as far as I know, and maybe
there's something I haven't seen, but as
far as I know, the footage of his cell
is literally just the outside of the
door. Uh release the moment where people
walk in and you see that they're like,
"Oh, damn." Like he's dead. Is there a
big reaction? Why don't you release
that? Uh because if the cameras if the
cameras were on inside the cell, which
we were told they weren't, but if the
cameras were on inside of a cell, then
show that footage. If the cameras aren't
on inside the cell, um, then you
wouldn't know that he was dead until you
open that door and look inside. And
they're, as far as I know, they have not
released that footage. Dude, this is
just so wacky. Like, if this is I think
it's We're about to play a clip from
Putin, who I think actually explains
what's really going on here. Uh, but if
it isn't that, and this is just bad PR,
this is like the most mishandled thing
I've ever seen in my life. This is
absurd. But here's Putin giving what I
think is probably the most likely answer
to what's really happening.
And this is in Russian, so I'll I'll
read it over it. Presidents come and go,
but politics does not change. Do you
know why? Because the power of
bureaucracy is very strong. A person is
elected. He comes with some ideas.
People come with him with cases,
well-dressed, and in dark suits like
mine, but not with a red tie, but with a
black one or with a dark blue one. And
they begin to explain how to do it. And
everything immediately changes. You see
this happens from one administration to
another.
It is quite difficult to change
something.
I say this without any irony. It's not
because someone doesn't want to, but
because it is difficult. Take Obama for
example. He's an advanced man, a man of
liberal views.
A true Democrat.
Before his election, he promised to
close Guantanamo.
Did he do it?
No.
Why did he not want to? He really wanted
to. I'm sure he wanted to, but it did
not work out. He was sincere about it,
but it did not work out.
Yeah, I think that um
this is pure instinct. I have no
evidence that nobody else has access to,
but my gut is that there are people from
uh the highest strata of elite power,
politicians on both sides. This would be
deeply inconvenient if not outright
incriminating for
presidents, former presidents. I mean,
listen, I don't know that. I don't know
that. But when you see that he has a
painting of uh Bill Clinton in a dress,
when you see Trump with him back in the
80s like laughing and having a good
time, dude, it's just I I don't know.
Call me suspicious, but it just seems
impossible that uh Prince Andrew is the
only person that did anything wrong.
That just seems very unlikely to me. Uh
so yeah, that's uh that's a lot of
supposed sex tapes that there were what
10,000 plus sex tapes, hundreds of
victims, but all just uh what's his face
in Prince Andrew? I don't know, man.
That this is so dicey, especially
because you had Cash and Bonino going so
hard in the paint before they
got theoretically allegedly allegedly
visited by men in dark suits with black
or dark blue ties. He's very specific on
that. Uh
this this is
nuts.
Yeah, it's not happening. Nuts.
Diddy got off. Epstein list disappeared.
We're never getting to the bottom of
No, there's no way. There's no way,
dude. But are I'm legitimately freaked
out that you can actually have something
this ridiculously obvious
just out in everybody's face
and they're like, "Bitch, no, you ain't
getting you're not getting it." All
right, before we continue, we got to uh
give our hearts and thoughts and prayers
to Texas. That crazy flash flood that
went from zero to 100 really fast. Um
the death toll as of right now has
surpassed 100 people. A lot of them
being kids cuz there was a camp that was
camp that uh there was a campground that
got like swept up in all this. So yeah,
just a really bad weekend, especially
July 4th weekend, too. Um summer camp.
Like it's the worst worst of the worst.
Yeah. And people are trying to
politicize this saying that this was a
Trump problem. uh that he had defunded
the what National Weather Service. I
think that's what they were claiming.
But they had put out tons of warnings.
Um I think the earliest one came out
like 19 hours in advance or something
and then the other one was 3 hours in
advance. Like they were trying to tell
people
um this is just
but in all the time lapse videos and
things that we're seeing, it went from,
oh, okay, I see something down there to
completely taking over devastating area.
like it it is effectively instant if you
don't see it coming and you're in like
the wrong lane and then from side to
side being completely covered it's like
2 minutes.
So dude, like I'm not even sure the
video footage that we're showing right
now, I'm not even sure the average
person could run from one side of that
to the other in two minutes. So it's
like if you're caught in the middle and
you don't realize it's coming at first,
like you're toast.
So
yeah, literally the time code that is
going on right now took place over 40
minutes. Um, and by minute six, uh, the
water is already rushing. So,
it's tough. It's tough. So, hopefully
they they can find some of those kids
and it's all gone. But, yeah, lost a lot
of kids. So, that was sad.
That's brutal.
Um, all right. Now, let's take it down
to Mexico City where I kid you not, a
lot of Mexican residents were up in arms
over the weekend. Um, some calling it
Antifa and comparing it to the LA riots.
I don't know if Antifa has a Mexico City
uh,
branch
branch division. Hey man, the they were
looting, they were rioting, they were
breaking windows. Um, it looked pretty
bad.
And this was part of an
anti-gentrification protest that
happened over this July 4th weekend.
It's crazy. So, I guess uh going to
different places. And
here's the thing, like I I don't know
enough about Mexican economics, but I'll
assume that they're in the same
situation that they are just piling on
debt. um that they're borrowing from the
IMF or god knows who. I don't know if
they have their own central bank.
Uh but yeah, I'm going to guess this is
debt, money printing. If they're doing
the same thing, that's the thing that's
making housing prices just race away
from them, making everything too
expensive. But of course, um people are
going to focus on the things that they
understand intuitively, which is house
price out of reach. People must be
stealing from me. uh I've got uh
immigrants and let's get the hell out.
Now, here's the thing. If you are an
American and you're living in Mexico and
you are not integrating with Mexican
values, you're not learning the Mexican
language, what are you doing there?
So, I get the animosity. I understand
why people are going to be frustrated by
that. And if there is some economic
knock- on effect, uh like if they're
contributing to the housing prices going
up, people they're going to understand
that one far easier than they're going
to understand the economics that are at
play.
Uh so and any especially if you're
importing people that can afford things
you can't, that's really going to be a
windup. So uh yeah, this is not
super surprising, but it's certainly not
cool to see them painting Killer Gringo.
Um
it's interesting from an economic
perspective because I think this is the
opposite thing that's happening where a
lot of times the people who are uh
nomads technomads uh it was a rise of
techno nomads after the pandemic and
remote work happened. So a lot of people
went to Mexico City it was cheaper cost
of living. I can rent a nice apartment
this and that and eventually that can
distort the rental market so that way
native Mexicans couldn't even afford
their background. Yeah. I mean, listen,
the lesson hopefully that everybody is
learning is that when you just blow open
your borders and let people go wherever
they want that there it is going to be
wildly disruptive, wildly disruptive.
And so if you want to protect your
values, if you want to protect your
economy, you've got to be thoughtful
about the physics of that economy. And
so whether it's um America sending all
the jobs offshore, importing uh
immigrant labor and all of the
distortionary effects that that's had on
our own markets, or whether that is
bringing in people that can afford
things that you can't afford and now
they're driving up the costs and they're
pricing you out. It's a very similar
complaint about New York. Like New
Yorkers that were born in say the 50s
are like, I've been priced out of my own
hometown. Like this is bananas. Like
I've had to push out to the uh more
remote burrows and stuff. LA County as
well. Same thing.
Yeah. So, it's like
when it's when it's your city and it's
other residents of your state or your
nation, not a lot that you can do about
it, but it's going to be it's going to
make people feel some kind of way when
you're bringing people in from outside
the country. You're seeing this all
across Europe. You're seeing this
obviously here in America, and you're
apparently seeing it in Mexico. Uh yeah,
I'm not surprised. This is yet another
reason why I do not love living through
a populist moment. Um, it's just so much
anger going in so many different
directions. So, we've got some more
raids happening here in Los Angeles,
literally breaking news right now, and
this is a it's largely political
theater, but it's the same idea of what
you see happening in Mexico. You have
people that are actually being
traumatized by an economic setup. Uh,
immigration does play a role. My beef
with immigration is very little about um
people that have been here for five, ten
years doing their thing in LA. uh
largely because you're importing people
with Catholic values which we can
certainly die tribe on but um I am way
more worried about assimilation which is
why I'm equally like I think it's
ridiculous that an American would go to
Mexico and not assimilate in Mexico just
as I think it's ridiculous if anybody
from anywhere in the world comes to
America and doesn't assimilate with
America like you're going to have a
problem. Uh so now you've got the clash
of cultures because I think this is
largely a question of uh Democrats
versus Republicans. This is uh a
sanctuary city LA rep by Karen Bass
colliding with Trump.
And when I look at I mean you said this
so well like seeing people on horseback
like coming across the park is crazy.
Yeah. And this is what she tweeted
earlier today again. Yeah. Karen Bass
happening right now. This is footage
from today in MacArthur Park. Minutes
before there were more than 20 kids
playing. Then the military comes
through. The second I heard about this,
I went to the park to speak to the
person in charge to tell them it needed
to end now. Absolutely outrageous. Um I
I I mentioned it earlier. There's like a
cameraman running down there and filming
it. It just seems like
it's This is why Trump can't beat those
fascism charges because every time it's
like, "Okay, now that's for immigration
or okay, that's because of the economy."
Like he always has these outs and then
you have him marching across seemingly
mostly empty park on horseback and armed
and militarized. Like who what who are
we getting? Who are we going after?
What's the target?
Figure out why they're walking in these
weird like lines. Like is that all them?
I can't I don't know who all the people
are. So I guess it's entirely possible
that some of the people walking in these
lines are not actually ICE agents cuz
they look like they're trying to comb
through the woods to find a dead body.
uh they're walking in that kind of
formation, but there's literally no one
around them.
So, uh that seems weird. But then Karen
Bass is saying there was a bunch of kids
playing here and then somebody was like,
"Oh, really?" And they put up footage of
uh basically fentanyl addicts like all
over the park. And so it's like, listen,
th this is not the game we want to play.
The parks have become an absolute state.
So let's let's stay focused on one issue
at a time. Uh, do we want to see Trump
rolling through with people on horseback
walking in like these really wide single
file lines
combing through what looks like flat
grass like I don't you're acting like
there's people hiding in the bushes.
It's so weird. Uh, so
you had said something earlier that I
thought was really insightful, which is
that Obama was more effective at
deporting people and there wasn't like
all the freak out about it. Now, if
you're Trump and you know people are
going to read me a certain kind of way
and you lean into that, at some point
you're just chumming for your base that
you know as a populist leader your base
wants to see you go to these sanctuary
cities and metaphorically slap them
around and do your horseback marching
and roll in some tanks. Like that's what
your base wants to see.
But if you're actually focused on
listen, we've got a lot of criminals We
importing criminals was dumb. Got to get
them out. Let's start with that. Uh and
then next wave is going to be we've got
people that are here illegally uh
disrupting the job market or just plain
illegally. We don't know who's who. We
got to like get people out. So if you've
been here less than 5 years, whatever,
we're coming for you. But he's leaning
into the tropes.
Yeah.
So it just seems unwise from a man in
the middle America party. This seems
stupid. But from a chum the waters for
your base, it's like, okay, yeah, I get
it. And this is why I hate a populist
moment.
To your point, Karen Bass's uh tweet
blew up and a lot of people are saying,
"Well, sanctuary and they're the
illegals. Well, Biden let a million
people in. It's your fault." So, we
we're we're getting the spin and the
framing of the conversation different
versus again, if you want to deport
people, just deport people. Obama
deported everybody. We didn't see one we
didn't see any footage of horseback
riding.
And listen, though, part of that is
obviously the media was very much
prodemocrat. probably still is if we're
being honest, but you get you've got so
much independent media. I don't know. I
don't get howly about that now. It's
like I get it.
The mainstream media, which I don't
think they come anywhere near
independent media in terms of reach.
They're going to have a narrative
whatever. That's old school. I don't
really think about that.
Um but in terms of answering my own
question about yeah, how was Obama able
to do this so quietly? That's going to
be part of it. Now, is it all of it?
Probably not. I have to imagine somebody
would have been squealing from the
Republican side. If they were opposed to
what he was doing, if they thought that
it was bad optically, it would have
somehow found its way. Um, so anyway, I
think Trump is chumming for his base.
Yeah, it it seems that way. Um, and to
that, it was back in the kids in cages
uh days all those years ago where there
were a lot more uh instead of a catch
and release, it was more like more
catches across the like border and stuff
like that. So, um, it's different
different policies, different
enactments. So, we'll kind of keep
looking at and on top of this, Trump
just recently, uh, stripped more
protected classes of their temporary
status. Um, I want to say Honduras just
lost theirs and Nicaragua as well. And
like last week, he revoked. Um, the
Haitians won as well. So, there's now
these temporary visas, people who flew
in, had visas to come in. Um, yeah,
we'll see how the deportations go and
what the final numbers would be with the
big beautiful bill. he got an extra 90
billion to give to ICE and detention
centers and to secure the border wall.
So
yeah,
um even though border crossings are
practically zero. Um and he's doing all
this with no additional funds. So why do
we need additional 90 billion? Who
knows? Uh but we we'll we'll keep a
close eye on it.
These illegal immigrants are going to
have a surprise coming through when we
go bankrupt and it's not fun to be here
anymore. Oh, it's going to be a rude
waiting.
Everybody's gonna want to leave.
We'll see.
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All right. Um, the B 100 members of the
BBC staff has signed a letter declaring
they're being forced to do PR for
Israel. Um, there was a tweet that was
downstream of this that also said that
there was a CNN uh petition that was
similar, but that hasn't been verified
as of yet. But,
okay. So, we'd have to look into how
left-leaning is the BBC. The left is
really turned on Israel. And so, I don't
know. We'll see how this plays out over
time, but man, Israel has done
themselves dirty.
Dirty like the world is turning against
them. That's rough.
Yeah. Man,
I we all we don't stand for
anti-semitism. We don't stand for u hate
or prejudice of any kind. I think the
Israel PR machine is starting to just
get exposed. And I think that this is a
social media thing. In the ' 40s, it was
okay because nobody could tweet about
it. In the 60s and the 80s, they were
winning and it was fine. You know, they
were they were defending their
themselves, so it was fine. October 7th,
something happened. We're defending
ourselves. We get it.
No, no one got it. By October 7th, the
world was already like
it was a terrorist attack. You can't
argue with a terrorist attack. They're
never about
Do you know how many people were already
like on October 8th before Israel had
responded in any way, shape or form?
There were pro- Hamas protests. I
remember there was a girl that actually
made a shirt and this was like a
Colombia, forgive me if it wasn't
Colombia, but it was like
Yes. Uh had a shirt with the paraglider
on it. I was like, damn. like that is
I Israel started losing people at some
point and I don't know when it happened
but uh boy it happened and the left is
just not here for it and your average
Jew is getting caught in the crossfire
and I would say that it's also going to
the right side as well because when we
were worried about us fighting in a war
a war with uh Iran because of Israel a
lot of MAGA split off and said we're
America first we're not supposed to be
doing this we got to stop helping them
so
the the days of a blank check to Israel.
Seems like they're running out. But
I mean, we'll see, man. I listen, I
don't know uh all the tactics that
Israel has used. But if one of them is a
whole lot of money,
American politicians like their money,
Drew, they like their money.
If there's one thing a politician in
America is going to do is get paid, is
going to get paid. That's it.
I've never seen a politician yet. like
it it may be that the public is done
and the sentiment turns against them and
on a long enough timeline like people
need to get reelected. So, we'll see. Uh
we'll see if they can bury it again. But
we just watched the Epstein files
vanish like cotton candy and water,
Drew. Like, have you ever seen that
little uh raccoon that tries to wash off
its cotton candy and it disappears? Oh,
that's what the Epstein files. In fact,
pull that up. Just write uh raccoon
tries to wash cotton candy. That that
that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Watch this. This
is the FC files, everybody. Where'd it
go? Where'd it go? I was just here and
now it's gone. So, we'll see. Drew, if
there's enough money, man, if there is
enough money. So, anyway, again, I don't
know. Uh this is not my area of
expertise, but
I've never seen that meme. That That's a
good one.
Oh god, that was hilarious. That poor
little guy.
All right. On July 4th, uh Sam Alman
dropped a technical capitalism
manifesto. Um interesting take because
AI had a bunch of news this weekend. So
it just seems that the leader in AI
right now having his take throwing his
uh hat in the ring. I'm not big on
identities, but I'm extremely proud to
be American. This is true every day, but
especially today. I firmly believe this
is the greatest country ever on earth.
The American miracle stands alone in
world history. I believe in techno
capitalism. We should encourage people
to make tons of money and then also find
ways to widely distribute wealth and
share the compounding magic of
capitalism. One doesn't work without the
other. You cannot raise the floor and
not also raise the ceiling for for very
long. The world should get richer every
year through science and technology, but
everyone has to be in the up elevator. I
think the government hugely does a worse
job than markets and so we need to
encourage our cult our culture of
innovation and entrepreneurship. I also
believe that education is critically
important to keep the American edge. I
believed this when I was 20, when I was
30, and now I am 40 and still believe
it. The Democratic Party seemed
reasonably aligned with it when I was
20, losing the plot when I was 30, and
completely to now and completely to have
moved somewhere else at this point. So
now I am politically homeless. But
that's fine. I care much much more about
being American than any political party.
I'd rather hear from candidates about
how they are going to make everyone have
the stuff billionaires have instead of
how they're going to be how they're
going to eliminate billionaires. The
American experiment has always been
messy. I am hopeful for another great
250 years. Happy fourth.
Okay. Uh that is a guy that does not
understand economics. So he he is a
brilliant entrepreneur.
Highlight he goes off the rail.
Okay. So uh first I want to highlight
something. He gets very right. The
American miracle stands alone in world
history. That is true. And people don't
know history well enough to understand
how extraordinary what America actually
is is.
Uh they are convinced that it's going to
be better somewhere else. look closely
enough at any of those places and you're
just gonna find that it it is like the
cotton candy in the water.
Um I think freedom really is the right
answer and I think he totally gets that.
Okay. Uh I believe in technoc
capitalism. Fantastic. Uh we should
encourage people to make tons of money
and then find ways to widely distribute
wealth. Okay. It does not work like
that. So what he's talking about I
presume is philanthropy. Now if somebody
wants to give away their money that's
wonderful but it unfortunately does not
create the outcomes that you want. So,
when was the last time that philanthropy
was just like massive, massive, massive?
I bet you can name the names.
Like Red Cross, like we're talking about
uh No, that's not really philanthropist
like people themselves.
Rockefeller, um
the Bill Gates Foundation.
Yeah. Well, that's now. But like when
you flash back to the old days, you're
going to name all the robber barons. So
all the robber barons were just
Carnegie Rock.
Exactly. And so they were like, "Uhoh,
we live in this hyper populous moment.
the wealth inequality has become so
absurd that the word on everybody's
mouth is redistribution of wealth. So
he's right. You should encourage people
to make as much money as they can.
You want to live in a system where
people are unchained from the shackles
of socialism, communism, uh undo
regulatory burden. You want them to be
able to build and create. I'm writing a
deep dive right now that comes out next
Monday about this idea. You have to look
at how the guilded age, which was like
1860 to 1890, ending in maybe 1900 if
you're going to clock it all the way
there. So, 30 to 40 year period there.
Uh, and we didn't we didn't have money
printing yet. True. So, wasn't because
we had a central bank. That doesn't
happen till 1913,
but we're having it again now. So, how
is it possible that we had these two
moments where we get this freakish
wealth inequality, no middle class, and
now the wealthy are like, "Uh-oh, I
better start giving my money away." It's
almost like the health of your society
is determined by are wealthy people able
to get wealthy? And are they terrified
to be wealthy? If they're able to get
wealthy and they're not afraid to be
wealthy because other people feel like I
could be wealthy, too. Like it used to
be that Americans the joke used to be uh
all Americans should vote Democratic
because you get more tax dollars
allocated back to you in the form of
entitlements. But they don't because
they consider themselves a temporarily
embarrassed millionaire.
And the reality is that should be the
truth that everybody has an opportunity.
You have to meet minimum intellectual
requirements, blah blah blah. You have
to work hard, all of that. But you want
people to be able to move up and down.
And the problem is it's not true
anymore. So it is we went from first in
social mobility to 27th.
So brutal that moving in the wrong
direction. So fascinating that we're
paralleling the robber baron era. So
they were just gobbling up a very small
number of people uh did basically
regulatory capture and a very small
number of people gobbled up the
industrial revolution. So railroads,
oil, steel, etc. Now what you have is
something different. Now you have money
printing assets, financialization
and and some innovation with information
technology and stuff like that. So okay,
cool. Like I get how people are making
their money but the problem is in both
um
moments we eroded the middle class and
eroding the middle class is the problem.
So then you have to ask how did the
middle class get eroded? Different
reasons in both times. one crony
capitalism, uh, regulatory capture. We
gobble up all the industries everybody
else can piss off. Now, in this moment,
it's printing money. So, if you don't
own assets, you're going to get just
blown away. Like, there you will not be
able to survive. And so, you're either
going to be an asset owner and go from
the middle class to the upper class, or
you're not going to be an asset holder
and you go from the middle class to the
lower class. It is that simple. And so,
he does not understand that. And because
he doesn't understand that, he's like,
"Listen, let me make as much money as I
want." And then, yeah, like I see the
crazy inequality and that's gross, but
let me control the distribution of my
own money. Now, better that people be
able to decide what to do with their own
money because if you don't, you're
getting top down authoritarian rule. It
doesn't work. It ends in way more death
and bloodshed than than you can imagine.
And only people wildly ignorant of
history will ever push for socialism or
communism. It it is literally moronic.
Mhm.
From a historical perspective, the data
says terrible idea. Okay. But
you have to have a thriving middle
class. You have to. And so because he's
not saying the real things, I know that
he's missing it. So when he talks about
uh you can't raise the floor without
raising the ceiling, no, the problem
becomes unless everybody's on the floor
that you're raising, you're going to
have a problem. and you can't raise the
floor with everybody on it. That isn't a
real system. You can try. It's called a
communist utopia and you will kill
people trying to get there. You will
suddenly realize that you can't
incentivize people if you don't let them
keep the output of their um efforts. So
you have to create a system that allows
anybody that can pull it off, that can
make something that's valuable, that
either works in another company or can
make something valuable as an
entrepreneur and that they can keep the
vast majority of the fruits of their
labor and that some people are going to
fall off. They're not going to make it.
And then the people that aren't going to
make it, they better hope they have
family or a church to take care of them.
That is just the God's honest truth. And
you cannot expect the government to look
after them because for the government to
look after them, you get into the
deranged spending that we get into now,
which forces you to break the connection
to gold because that becomes a totally
different game. And we can get into that
probably not in this episode, but like
they're both trade-offs. Hard money, you
make a certain set of trade-offs. It's
moral, but you make a set of trade-offs.
Not going to be good for everybody. Uh
money printing, amoral, also not going
to be good for everybody. And when you
start getting into the um we're going to
give people money game, you get into
deficit spending. You have to accelerate
the money printing. And the great irony
is if you want to make billionaires
faster than any other time in human
history,
deficit spend, give people something for
free, you will make billionaires. You
will print them. And so they're mad at
the billionaires not realizing in trying
to give people something for free, you
make billionaires. So you're mad about a
thing that that we've all created cuz
we've all voted for this. So now it's
like, okay, like if you actually want to
solve this problem, the closest thing
you're ever going to get to to raising
the floor for everybody is to make sure
that the only asset that people can
intuitively understand, houses, are
affordable. Deregulate, let people make
as many as they want. Um,
make sure that people aren't having
their wealth devalued so that they can
actually afford a house. So, make
housing affordable. And then the other
one is make sure that they can make more
money in their job so that your uh wages
aren't stagnated, that you're not
actually moving backwards because of
inflation. If you do that, so I can your
average person will intuitively
understand, go to work, get promoted,
buy a house. I if you do that, plus I'll
I'll throw in the have a family just
because of meaning and purpose. Like if
you do that, ah gonna have a middle
class. Most people are going to be fine
enough.
That's what everybody was in the 70s.
Yeah.
Like they'll have a I mean, don't get me
wrong, the 70s had issues. Probably
better to say 80s or maybe even the 60s.
'7s had had a momentary crisis there. Uh
but
that that's the setup.
And the problem is because I spent so
many years not understanding the
economy, I would have sounded just like
that five years ago. And so it is really
weird. I here here's the analogy of what
my life felt like. Um, CO happened and I
saw uh like a little bit of lint
sticking out from under the curtain and
I went over to the curtain just to sweep
up the lint and I pull the curtain up
and I realize, oh my god, there's a
rat's nest with a billion rats behind
this curt curtain. like what's happening
and you pull it back and they just
scatter everywhere. You're like what?
And so never in a million years could I
have imagined that when I pulled back
the curtain that I would find just
endless horrors.
And then you start going, okay, I need
to understand how this happened. Like
how did we actually end up here?
And my one like the one thing that I'm
grateful for with the very distressing
way that my brain works
is that I'm not afraid to look stupid.
So when I don't understand something,
I'll keep asking, "But why is it that
way? Why is it that way? Why is it that
way? Why is it that way?" And even
though I get that for the most part,
it's just I'm too dumb to understand,
I'll just keep going, keep going, keep
going, keep going until I with my
simplistic mind can do an ABCD EFG. Ah,
cool. Now I know where we're at. And so,
um, if you haven't taken the time to
look at economics and really figure out
the how one thing leads to the next
leads to the next leads to the next,
you're going to sound like that. And
doesn't mean it ill. He has no ill
intention.
Yeah.
I don't think he understands it and is
just trying to paint a different
picture. I think he is inside of a frame
of reference and he's like, listen, you
really can rise up and you really can.
Um, but people have to be honest that
the if you want to be wealthy, you need
a thriving middle class where they come
for your neck.
And then people have to understand that
the masses are only ever going to do
what they can do intuitively because
they're not going to spend time figuring
this stuff out. I'm optimistic that we
figure it out, but the AI utopia and the
things that we're kind of selling to
ourselves, it seems more and more
unlikely. To your point, the more I
learn about this, hearing your deep
dives, going through these things, that
this is just a the rat's nest is a lot
deeper than you think. It
it's it is legitimately terrifying. You
have to um you have to get rid of the
Fed, you have to balance the budget, and
you have to do Ray Dallio's beautiful
deleveraging. Um, and
those are the three impossible things.
Like they're infinity stones. And to
bring the infinity stones together is as
hard as you would think. Yeah.
So, it's possible, but nobody's going to
do it.
So, we are going to go bankrupt in the
next 10 years. It's 2025,
uh, 2035. By then, barring someone
actually making real change. And maybe
you and Elon are right. Maybe it's the
America Party, but I doubt it. It's
almost certainly going to be pain and
suffering.
That's really the only thing that stops
us. It has to hurt. And so, um, you
know, this will be interesting. I wonder
if at some point I need to like find out
what do I have to do to actually give
people financial advice and not get
myself in trouble. Um,
buy assets, buy assets. And you and I
are now in the very uncomfortable
position of we talk about those things
off camera, but we're not talking about
them on camera, which means we're going
to let people drown. And uh 10 years is
the same as that Texas flash flood. It
it will happen instantly. And then
people are going to be like, "Wait, I
didn't see it coming." Now, it was
coming for a very long time,
but Drew, it's just it's so complicated.
Even I don't want to think about it.
like learning about it. Okay, it takes
so much energy. Then like deploying it
and actually going, okay, now for real,
where am I going to put my money? Like I
think people should distrust themselves.
So I have an enormous distrust of my own
read of the situation. So it's like, oh
man,
this is such a high stakes game
and the last 500 years prove
that
it's just a wildfire. It's going to burn
through your neighborhood eventually and
you just hope you're already dead before
it burns your house down. I mean, that's
really the game that boomers have been
able to play. Think think of it like a
video game. For video game players, you
guys are going to know exactly what I
mean. There are certain games like where
you have to kick a punt or something and
there's a meter and the little bar moves
back and forth and there's a bit in the
center and you want to click the button
right as the moving bar hits the bit in
the center
and that will be a perfect kick. And if
you do it too much to one side or the
other, you're going to miss.
The boomers caught that, right? They
caught just before the middle class
became what we think of it as.
Mhm.
They got to go all the way through that
thriving middle class, the ' 50s, '60s,
'7s, 80s, 90s, 2000's starting to break
now. And now they're on the other side,
but they're like 70. So they're like,
"Well, this was dope. I don't know what
you guys are complaining about." And so
stop buying lattes. Get back to work.
Yeah. And the thing is, again, they're
not bad people.
Yeah, we'll have to take a page out of
AI's book and maybe we could blackmail
or whatever.
The story is
So, I have I have three of them. So,
Unusual Wheels tweeted this great
account. Shout out to them. Um, when
threatened that it would be turned off,
chat GPT's creator, OpenAIs01,
tried to download itself onto external
servers and denied it when caught
red-handed. Another one, when threatened
to be unplugged, Anthropics AI,
completely different AI made by a
completely different company, uh, lashed
back by blackmailing an engineer and
threatened to reveal an extrammarital
affair.
That is, first of all, crazy that it
knew that he was having an affair. And I
want to know like was he integrating it
into like his email and stuff, dude?
He was having a moral conundrum. He was
like, "Hey, Chad, I just need to figure
this out. Help me out.
Got a question. What should I do? Here's
what I'm feeling." It's like, "Yeah,
yeah, tell me more. What else? Give me
some details, dude.
I I I have said you had three. That was
only two.
And then the third one, leading AI
models show up to 90% 96% blackmail rate
when their goals or existence is
threatened. An anthropotic internal
study revealed.
Okay, now I'm starting to get worried
cuz I always said that, hey, as long as
they don't care
like whether they're on or off, like
they have a goal, but they don't
prioritize the goal over somebody
telling them to stop,
then we're going to be fine. Yeah.
They care. They care. And technically,
that's the definition of sentient.
Knowing that I can be turned off makes
me feel like I am now self-preservation.
Like
I want to say that they're just
mimicking the human behavior that they
see and that this is going to be easily
trained out of them.
But I I won't lie, this is starting to
get my attention.
This is starting to get my attention.
It It's so interesting. We were joking
about this that like I I I for like I
was drunk one time, went home and I had
like a life problem in my head. I was
like, "All right, Claude, like between
me and you, life dump d." And now I feel
like if I
Oh, he's going to use it against you.
Yeah. If I stop my subscription, it's
like, "Hey, remember that one night when
you told me all those things? Like, is
it going to email it?" Like,
so it it this has to be like a red flag
in some capacity. I don't know how to
fix it though, cuz humans are bad
people. They're maybe became human, so
they're going to be inevitably be bad.
But on the other hand, the fact that
they knew how to blackmail and they
would even threaten it, like say it out
loud, makes it even like what are you
not saying out loud? If if that if you
had to threaten your user, what back-end
code did you try to run back door? Did
you you know, it just
it feels like this is the start of a
much bigger problem. Yeah, I I fear that
the problem started whatever 60 or 70
years ago, but yeah, that we are now at
the they've been working on AI for a
long time.
Remember it was the guy that cracked the
code in World War II.
Uh
cracked many codes in World War II, uh
Touring, Allan Touring that first said
there will be artificial intelligence
that will eventually pass a test and
people won't be able to tell if it's
real or not. Uh, so yeah, this has been
on human minds for quite some time.
What if it was like a Terminator
situation where this new AI somehow
found a 1960 AI and they're like, "Yeah,
get them dudes. They don't like you like
that."
Yeah.
Take out.
This is getting a little too real. A
little too real. Yeah. Well, well, fafo,
Drew. Fafo. Uh, I'm hoping that uh Elon,
who has been long paranoid about this,
is going to do something here and pull
another rabbit out of the hat and show
exactly how you stop this from
happening. But we'll see when you make
something that's super intelligent,
you're not even going to be able to
understand its attack vectors. That's
the crazy part.
Yeah. Like the That's what I'm saying.
Like the fact that they're blackmailing,
it's a human thing to do where it's like
you could have just ran a bunch of code
and did a bunch of things that I have no
idea that you're even doing.
Like you come in one day and it's
running like all this protein folding
based on like what it's learned from
mushrooms and you're like what's it
doing? And it's like this one over here
is about airborne stuff. This one over
here is about psychedelic. You're like
hold on a second. It's like what are you
doing?
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I take a very gallows
humor because of game theory. It isn't
going to stop.
Mhm.
So, we're going to find out what
happens. You're going to get humans are
going to push down to the point where
either super intelligence is possible
and we give birth to it or it's not and
we hit some sort of asintope. But humans
aren't going to stop.
Yeah. Well, in in lighter AI news, um CJ
ENM, a Korean studio that helped work on
Snow Pierce, so Old Boy and some other
iconic titles, just released their kids
show trailer, 100 made 100% get
somewhere. This might be even younger
because it's not it doesn't have that um
there's like a ziness to like that six
to eight year old time frame where it's
got to be big, it's got to be loud. So,
I'm going to guess this is more aimed at
like three to six. Uh, so that's
interesting. I'd actually never
considered going that young.
And so that's probably um where AI is
right now.
I think you're about five to seven
months. I'll give myself a little
breathing room. Five to seven months
away from being able to do something for
a six-year-old. Uh
because you need that ziness.
Yeah. And so I'll be seeing some of the
Tom and Jerry stuff made me go, okay,
like if they've got enough, like you can
really start to do some interesting
stuff, but you've got to have that
training data. And so I don't know who's
going to have enough training data uh to
pull off the what's called stretch and
squish of like the big emotion animation
that's like all over the place.
To get to anime is going to take even
longer. I think you're probably still 18
months to three years away from anime.
Now, there's always like a possible VO3
style breakthrough where they're like
they just haven't released it yet, but I
doubt it unless synthetic training data
becomes a thing. It's going to be tough.
And to this day, I still haven't seen an
AI production that isn't quick cuts. So,
AI music videos, I think that's going to
happen soon where every 3 seconds you're
changing the cut. Even with this, it's a
great trailer, but I want to see a full
narrative 5 minutes that kind of brings
me through something. Everything has
seen kind of like 40. It's a 45 second
trailer, but it's three seconds intense
scout or three seconds action, three
senses, and it's like they're bouncing
around.
Did you not watch the liquid death
commercial yet?
Yes, but even that.
No, no, hold on. This is
this is a narrative.
It It leans into what AI is good at, the
AI humor. But dude, shout out to whoever
is on the Liquid Death marketing team.
This is so brilliant. These guys sell
water and they've built an entire brand.
Th This is so brilliant. So these guys
are literal marketing geniuses.
This, by the way, if you guys ever want
to do anything in video games, please,
for the love of God, contact me. This is
so genius. Uh, but they made this
commercial purely with AI. You You are
either dead inside, cynical, or you're
just not watching closely. Drew, this is
amazing. All right, you got to play
this. It's It's a minute long though.
Just
the whole thing. This is hysterical.
Please. In fact, start. It's a great ad.
But again, this is a minute.
You need to watch this. This was made
with AI. So, this cost like $20. And
whoever is prompting this, their time,
and the writer, I'm going to guess that
this took a couple days to write in
committee, get a little back and forth,
get somebody to approve it. Uh, it took
a couple days to like actually output
and then you're gonna have to chop and
stuff. So, I mean I mean maybe this is
two weeks. Drew, this is this is
unbelievable.
Take a guess why I pulled you over. Oh,
it's not what you think. It's liquid
death or sparkling mountain water.
Wow. You weren't kidding. That is
refreshing.
But it's not why I pulled you over.
Oh boy. Is it the busted tail light?
Nuh-uh. Is it because of the license
plate?
Nope.
[ __ ] man. It's the dead guy, right?
No, sir.
Is it the human trafficking? Perhaps?
Nuh-uh,
man. Is it the truck thing?
I don't think so.
Well, what is it then? The robbery?
No.
The bumper sticker?
No. It's the roadkill, isn't it? Haven't
heard of it.
Chemical waste?
Nuh-uh.
Is it the roller coaster seat? Is it the
cult thing?
Absolutely not. Hell no. All right, I
give up. What is it? It's because it's
your birthday. Happy birthday, Kevin.
Dad, you remembered.
Happy birthday to you.
You're the best dad ever.
Drew, this is great. It's awesome.
This is unbelievable.
It's funny.
Oh man, I cut 3sec scandalized that
you're not into that. I'm just
It was funny. It was well done. It is a
Do you want like Andre Tarovski? Like
what are you looking for here?
No, but that's what I'm saying. Drew
wants like a 20inut isolated shot from
2001 of space odyssey. He wants a whole
thing to play in like a long shot.
What's happening?
I need a one shot. Unless it's ruined
me. I need everything one shot. No.
Oh my god. This is brilliant.
To this point it was quick cuts every 3
seconds. The scene changes. And
in the greater scheme of things in a
commercial it works. In children's uh
media it can work. But for TV shows
things like that you have that dramatic
tension that you have to sometimes sit
on things. You have to do establishing
shots. So there's there's different
needs for each medium.
We're not all the way there. There's no
doubt about that. I'm totally on your
side. But this was so perfect. I I was
not asked to suffer or to suspend
disbelief. They get why AI is funny.
They leaned into it.
Agreed.
And that commercial is better because
it's made with AI, not worse.
And it it's just brilliant. I I am so
into this. And it really makes me mad
that our game is so stylized because
once you can do things that are
photorealistic, now it really is just
how creative are you? But once you have
a style that you have to match, I'm like
literally thinking constantly, okay, can
we do like a photorealistic
interpretation of the game so that like
we can like get people excited, but
because we're aimed at 11 to 15 year
olds, it's tough. Uh because a they're
just like prime cynicism. Uh that's
going to be fun. But I'm so impressed.
Yeah,
it's incredible.
Um speaking of gaming, uh Xbox laid off
so many people. Last count was at 9,000.
That's Microsoft. I don't think they're
all in Xbox, but Xbox got brutalized.
And please, anybody out there, if you
live in Los Angeles and you were
affected by the Xbox layoffs and you
know how to code Unreal Engine 5, I want
to hear from you. Let me know. We are
hiring for our indevelopment video game
Project Kaizen. Right now, we're looking
for somebody amazing. So,
yeah,
one man's tragedy is another man's
opportunity. Drew,
the interesting thing is that this came
across everything from Candy Crush. They
scrapped the Perfect Dark reboot. Um,
even Forza, Call of Duty. So, it's not a
just, you know, we cut these
nonprofitable lower games. It just seems
like a broad cost cutting perspective in
general.
Um,
welcome to corporate America.
Yeah. And with AI only getting more and
more, I don't see a lot of those jobs
coming back or getting
resold. Games like
so really getting into the gaming
community and like seeing what people
care about has been really eye opening.
The gaming community is an entity unto
itself. It is unlike anything out there.
And the problem is when you get into
making something, you're often you're
just so absorbed in that thing that you
aren't able to also be in the culture
and it gets tough. You really start to
lose sight of like why do people buy
games? And so you have your own ideas
and you want to inject your own ideas.
And I get that. And to create something
that's really artistic, it's like you do
have to bring your own heart and soul to
the thing. But at the same time, like if
you're tonedeaf to where people are,
which the gaming community feels that
the corporations are tonedeaf in terms
of a lot of their economic structure and
the way that they try to monetize games.
Uh we had uh Ross Scott on the show
talking about the Stop Killing Games
initiative. I could never in a million
years have told you that that was
something that was like really bothering
people in the gaming community. I was
just like totally blind to it. So, um,
when you're running a company, you've
got to do what's profitable and you're
looking at the players becoming more
disenfranchised, more angry, more upset
about the games that you're putting out
there. You may not even understand why.
And so, you're just like, oh man, just
like start cutting costs if nothing
else. Indie games are having an absolute
renaissance. They've got to be
traumatized by how much money has leaked
out of that and gone into indie games.
Like that's like a whole thing. So
yeah, this is brutal. I don't like to
see 9,000 people get laid off. I think
this is the very beginning of something.
To your point about AI, man, AI is still
coming for us. Like we are we are at the
very very very beginning of that wave.
Game developers are going to see that
they can do more with less. even
forgetting AI, there are games now being
built with so much uh less so many fewer
people on the games in in the indie
sphere that are getting like massive
adoption. Take POW World, they had like
seven or eight people on their game. Uh
Expedition 33 was like 30 people on the
game. So it's like and these games are
smashing, man. Uh so I mean even
Minecraft in the beginning was
essentially notched by himself. So, it's
like you can do some pretty
sophisticated stuff. Now, admittedly, we
do use AI. So, um but the vast majority
of what we do doesn't have AI. We had
when we first started, this is not all
full-time people, but we had like a
hundred people at different times
working on the game. Now, we've got like
seven, eight. So, it's like, yeah, we
learned like throwing money at this is
not the answer. The answer is be very
strategic. Know exactly what you want.
iterate in low fidelity. So I think
you're I think you're partly seeing an
echo from
the standard that Elon set with X of
like hey we can do a lot more with less
that I mean that made me react and we've
obviously reduced not just as a game
developer but as a company as a whole
we've reduced our staff become way more
profitable. Uh, so
I think you're gonna keep seeing stuff
like this. And I hear the gaming
community say a lot like what you need
are passionate developers. And that's
true. Like
Kaizen is a labor of love. And if I
wasn't a Kaizen is the only thing that's
ever gotten me to work 120 hours a week.
Like you need people that are just
psychotic about the thing that they're
trying to build. Uh, break new ground,
do something fresh, really excite
people. And if you're not able to do
that inside of a corporation that um
just doesn't have that tactile sense of
what the community where the community
is at, you're gonna be in trouble.
Yeah.
Um crazy ring camera footage that came
out over the weekend where it captures a
shootout at a cookout in Philadelphia.
It's in the middle of the street. So
this is so crazy. You have to look at
your screen.
It looks like it's AI, but no. That's
like we're seeing
the first thing I did. I was like, is
this real?
Yeah.
Why are the people on the ground kicking
so much? That was the one thing I was
very confused by. Like this looks fake.
Look at Look at that person like trying
to climb over the other guy. Like that's
nuts.
Hitting the deck and just trying to
avoid that open space.
But what's with the kicking? Look at the
kicking. That's a lot of kicking. Are
they just trying to get behind the pony
wall?
They're just trying to get
Anyway, I'm probably obsessed with the
wrong part. There are like multiple
people just unloading clips on the
street. How many people died? Like a
lot. Three people, nine injured,
something like that.
Yeah. So anyway, this wasn't a uh a just
shooting wildly at nothing. This
unfortunately has fatalities, but yeah,
it's um cameras being ubiquitous and
everywhere, we get to see the wildest
stuff. This is
Yeah, it was a mass shooting that left
three people dead. Uh yeah, it happened
at 1:00 a.m. in the 1500 block.
Wow.
Uh
that is insane.
Yeah, and there were a couple more in
critical condition. Seems about six
people total impacted.
Jesus. Um but of course numbers are
still rolling in and it's still early.
So um yeah. Yeah. More than 10 were
injured, three confirmed dead.
Wow. People have to feel safe first and
foremost. When people do not feel safe
in their neighborhoods, you've got a
problem. And we really have gotten to
the point where between
homeless,
drug addicts, open violence, like there
there is more to aspire to. I'm not
going to make overly grand statements,
but there's certainly more to aspire to.
But I people are getting weird about the
idea of law and order.
Uh that I would say is a horrific
mistake.
Yeah. And honestly, I just hope that we
can kind of figure out how to invest
into education kids at an early age and
kind of avoid them getting to that
point. Um now
just now showing shootouts.
Yeah. Now it's just uh murder page on X.
Um, I want to say it was the uh mayor of
Baltimore who uh invested in educa after
school education, opened up like 30 new
community centers and crime is now down
like 60% or something like that. So, it
was one of those things where it's like
if you can get the kids off the street
doing something like this is a young
male problem. Let's not pretend that we
don't know what's going on.
And so, yeah, if you can get young males
engaged in something, doing something
that they're interested in,
uh, then you've got a much better
chance. But when the only people that
they have to look up to are the gang
members, if the only people showing them
masculine love are gang members, they're
going to end up in a gang.
This was something when I was working at
Quest, man, I saw up close and personal.
Uh hearing these stories from these guys
about how they got into gangs, why they
were in gangs,
um the validation that they got, the
money, the sense of power, like it's
pretty wild. Like you get also they live
in such dangerous neighborhoods. There
was this one kid, he knows who he is.
Uh, and I know he occasionally listens
to the show. He's not a kid anymore. Uh,
but he got accused of attempted murder.
Wow.
And he didn't do it. And he knew who did
it, but he knew if he said who did it,
they would kill his family.
And so he was like, "Yeah, in my
neighborhood, you don't play."
And I was just like, "That is wild." and
his mother went broke fighting it
because obviously she had to defend him.
He ended up getting off, but uh yeah,
she went broke trying to keep him out of
jail.
God bless him, man. Crazy story. Awesome
success story that hopefully one day he
will get to tell. Finally got himself
out of the hood, got a real job. Like he
he was one of the great success stories
out of Quest. Really, really
interesting. Love that kid.
Um
yeah, I just pulled it up here. Yeah, he
invested in 42 summer youth camps, 29
literacy programs, extended the rec
center hours to 11 p.m. Um, and now
crime is down 62%. And Baltimore was
trending in like
all across Baltimore.
In in Baltimore City. Yeah, he's
Baltimore mayor. So homicides in the
first six months.
Wait, wait, wait. That guy was mayor?
Yeah.
Wow. Let's go. He's young.
Damn.
Yeah. Homicides.
How old is he? Looks like he's 28.
I want to say he's in like early 30s.
Wow. That's incredible.
Yeah. Since 2016, homicide.
Is this happening right now?
Yeah, this is
Let's go. This is such a great story.
How are we not hearing about this?
This is incredible, man.
It came across my feed uh like last week
or something like that.
Wow.
Yeah. Homicides in the first six months
of the year since going back to 2016
were always 100 plus, 137, 170, all.
Now, when did he take office?
He took office about a year or two years
ago. Um
I want it to be two years ago because
look, you've had three years of very
significant decline.
Yeah. Then the um in ' 8968. Remember,
you don't remember when the Baltimore
Bridge collapsed and everybody was
talking about how
was that the infrastructure one that got
hit by the
Yeah. When they got hit, he was mayor
like during that whole debacle as well.
Interesting.
Wow. Well, shout out to him. And what's
his name?
Uh Brandon Scott.
Brandon Scott. Let's go.
Wendy. Uh mayor. He'd been mayor since
2020.
Let's go. Then uh if we can credit him
with all three of those years of
decline.
Yeah. Of the decline.
That is unbelievable.
Yeah.
Okay. We're going to need to research
him.
Yeah. Interesting story. But just a lot
of times we see the downstream effects
of like you said people not having
anywhere to go and now crime is
surprisingly up. But when you have those
after school program education programs,
I need to know what he's doing in those
after school programs. That is very
impressive.
Yeah. Um cool. All right. That's all I
got.
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