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Alan Dersowitz is saying the Epstein
files are indeed being suppressed, that
we've got some major action, major
players that are being protected.
Politicians, famous people, you name it,
they're in there. Just giving you the
facts. You can draw whatever conclusion
you want, but our episode on Epstein got
age restricted. Reputation is largely
built on taking controversial and often
unpopular cases. So, let me tell you, I
know for a fact documents are being
suppressed, and they're being suppressed
to protect individuals. I know the names
of the individuals. I know why they're
being suppressed. I know who's
suppressing them. But I'm bound by
confidentiality from a judge and cases,
and I can't disclose what I know, but I
hand to God, I know I know the names of
people, and that's wrong.
>> We've been talking about this. It's been
bouncing around the podcast circus. Now,
at this point,
>> everybody is going to reveal themselves
in how they respond to social media,
being able to talk about everything.
Cameras being everywhere, and some
people are going to want to clamp down.
They're going to want you to only see
things that are approved. This much
information has a deranging effect. It
just isn't only deranging. To me, this
is like being able to farm and create
industrial
farming where you can just have calories
all the time, anytime, whenever you
want. If you give that to people that
have no control, they're going to
become, you know, 600 lb. They're going
to eat terrible food. They're going to
be dying of malnutrition despite being
morbidly obese. Yeah, I get it. But that
doesn't mean that I would rather force
everybody back to where you have to hunt
and fish and risk starvation when winter
comes. Like, it's absurd. The logic that
people use around, hey, some people are
going to say dumb things and some people
are going to believe dumb things and
therefore we have to control this [ __ ]
It is the weirdest logical progression
ever. You know that at some point you're
saying I don't want the trust to be
voluntary. I want the force the trust to
be forced. Like what is happening? How
do people look at history and go
>> it works out so well. Drew
>> it's not a problem. It's crazy.
>> What do you say though to the people
that say there's miss this uh Swiss
bliss? I don't know. All the
misinformation. I like that.
>> Yeah. Like if I say a lie loud enough,
and we even experimented on the show
jokingly. We all have examples of that.
>> Some people still think you're 53. I
love that so much. He is 53, by the way.
>> If you say it loud enough, it will be
effective. And at the political level,
there should be a level of
responsibility there. So, is it It's
free speech when you're talking about,
you know, technology. It's free speech
when you're talking about video games,
movies, things like that. But politics
should be restricted. Like, is that a
middle ground? Nope.
>> You just think full stop, no
restriction. Like, you cannot do that.
>> Correct. Here's the thing, Drew. Oh,
god. I love and care about you truly as
a human being, but I think you're out of
your mind to believe in God. Imagine
that I got to tell you, you can't talk
about that. It's not true. How
out of your you'd be willing to fight
and kill almost certainly if people told
you, uh, no, that's not real and you
can't talk about it. And I would be able
to show you the proof of all the
scientific things that show that's not
real. And yet you would say, "This is
the most absurd thing ever. you are
wrong. I don't care what your science
says. And what I'm saying is correct.
You should be able to say and believe
the things that you say and believe. And
if I'm completely honest, you should be
able to lie because I don't want people
to try to be the adjudicators of truth.
Yeah.
>> So, it's like listen, this is the
reality of the human condition. We are
in this position. People must think for
themselves. They have to be able to live
in a world where there's all kinds of
terrible food and eat the right ones and
figure out which is which. We have to
live in a world where um people are
going to be hearing miss this mal
information coming at them from all
angles and they've got to figure out how
to navigate this. And there are going to
be some people that do not have the
intellectual capacity to make it. And we
have to accept that those people's lives
will be worse. that God has found it
absolutely okay to give people an IQ
that just makes the world impossible to
navigate.
>> It is what it is. Like it is maniacal
when people go, "Well, but I see
everything so clearly."
>> I'm going to say that like these
institutions shouldn't be optionally
listened to. They shouldn't have to
compete for uh people's respect and
trust. You should just trust.
>> These are them. politicians if that's
people's bag or the New York Times if
that's people's bag or the National
Institute of Health. Hard pass. This is
where people have to take ownership of
their lives and say yes, there's going
to be a whole bunch of information that
I totally disagree with and I'm going to
have to find a way to parse this. I'm
going to have to think from first
principles. I'm going to have to map
cause and effect and I'm going to have
to try to get to what's true. I have to
get out of my own way. I have to stop
believing everything that I feel. I have
to stop believing everything that I
believed yesterday because it no longer
maps to reality. It just is what it is.
And listen, I'm all for that 1776
energy. I need people to understand, you
cannot expect to go through life with
all of the sharp edges padded.
>> You have to say life is going to be
hard. There's a huge chance of failure.
And instead of making sure that I can't
ever get hurt, I want uncapped upside.
And so the great irony is in real life I
want to live in a more moderate space,
but there's no energy for that. And so I
find myself feeling like I've got to
like push harder and harder to get
people to hear me because right now all
I hear is people clamoring for nobody
left behind, nobody can get hurt, we've
got to control the information. Like it
and I'm talking from well-meaning,
really smart people. It is a value
system that has already bankrupted this
country. We are living on fumes. I would
like to remind everybody that fiat
currency is born only of confidence and
now we're going to lose confidence and
that is going to be a bloodbath and the
only way to pull back from that is you
have to go listen we want to create the
soil. That's what a nation is in my
opinion. We want to create the soil in
which people can thrive as much as their
drive, intelligence, uh discipline will
allow them to. And some people are going
to get some people are going to live a
terrible life.
>> That reminds me of a Nick Saven speech
that I definitely want to pull up.
>> You get up every day,
you're entitled to
nothing.
Nobody owes you
nothing.
>> I love this already.
>> You could have talent,
but if you don't have discipline and you
don't execute, you don't focus, what do
you get? Nothing.
If you're complacent
and not paying attention to detail, what
does that get you? Nothing.
So
nothing is acceptable but your best.
>> So
we need to be
everything is determined by what you do
and you trying to be your best so that
you can build on positive performance
>> so that and that's that's the only thing
There should be nothing else. All right,
but that
>> and I just I like how he just started it
off like you're entitled to nothing. You
wake up every day, nobody owes you
anything. And the internalization of
that I think is important. So although I
understand the motivations behind a lot
of these things about okay, hey guys,
election cycles can swing. There's grave
consequences to elections. We have to be
careful who we vote for. But that also
means do your research. That also means
don't just listen to don't get all your
information from X. That also means talk
to people. get out. So instead of saying
let's put more policing on the actual
policies, it should be the other side,
the individual stepping up and saying,
okay, maybe I do need to understand more
information. I need to gather more
things. Just diversify your sources,
whatever it may be. There was a question
in the chat though was like, is there
any limit? Do you fall on the side like,
okay, at least you shouldn't incite
violence at the very minimum.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm all for the regulations
that we have in effect right now. No
direct calls for violence. I should
probably go and break out like what the
actual things are that the Supreme Court
has ruled on,
>> but for the most part, it's a wild west.
Say whatever you think is true. And the
problem is
>> we are so bad at identifying what is
true
>> that once you give somebody the power to
start censoring, blocking, punishing you
for you slide into totalitarianism so
fast. And I will forever point people
back to Semlow Wise, the Hungarian
doctor who I think just epitomizes why
you can't do that. And that was just
colleagues. That wasn't even the state.
>> And Semlwise, to speedrun his story,
>> he was a Hungarian doctor that worked in
a hospital that was divided into two. So
they're in the same building, same
space. And uh one side of this separate
uh setup had a death rate that was like
five times higher than the other side.
And so he's like, "What is going on?"
And what he the conclusion that he came
to because this was all tied to women
giving birth and they were just dropping
like flies. Came up with what we now
call germ theory that people were doing
autopsies in the morning and then
delivering babies in the afternoon, but
they weren't washing. And so he came up
with a sanitizing solution and he made
doctors wash their hands. and the birth
rate didn't just go down, it absolutely
plummeted. Tells all his colleagues,
"Hey, germ theory, wash your hands." And
they're all like, "Nope, you're an
idiot. Uh, this has nothing to do with
us." And he ends up dying penniless and
in an insane asylum because they so
broke his will. Like they alienated him,
told him he was a [ __ ] kicked him out
of the hospital, all of this, cuz they
just couldn't accept that they had had
anything to do with these deaths. Like
the update that that required to their
sense of self was just too profound.
They couldn't do it. The moral of that
story is he was right. they were wrong.
But it took 20 years of people saying
like that's not something we can talk
about. It's exactly what happened during
co. It's what happens all the time.
People think they know uh and they
really don't. And so have humility. Like
I know the things that I say most
aggressively. I know that they could be
wrong. And so I'm always open to finding
out that oh this thing that was like
this is my hill to die on. And then I
find out oh okay you did die on that
hill. And then it's like, well, thank
God. In reality, that's just a metaphor
because I need to be updating my
thinking. And life has just taught me
that when you update your thinking
enough, you can get outcomes that are so
desirable that it's worth
>> letting go of the, "Well, I was right
about this." And listen, you're going to
hear me do it every now and then. When
I'm right about something, I'm going to
beat my chest like anybody else. But
then I will immediately remind myself,
this is so dangerous. Like, do not
overinvest. Just because you were right
this once, you were going to be wrong so
many times. That's how you get rich.
Like I want people to understand that
the very thing that has made me
successful is my willingness to go, I'm
the fool. I'm the one that's wrong. I I
don't need to point a bunch of fingers
at everybody else. This is a me problem.
And when you wake up every day and you
go, this is a me problem.
>> Then it's like, okay, you're staying in
control. You're staying disciplined.
You're trying to find cause and effect.
You're thinking from first principles.
Does this violate the laws of physics?
If it does, I'm not going to pursue it.
>> Uh if it doesn't, then it's like, okay,
this is possible. So, am I willing to
figure this thing out and go down that
road? But inevitably there's going to be
35 things that are like core to who I am
that I'm going to have to realize, oh my
god, none of these are true. So for
instance, four months ago, I would have
said there's no benefit to modern
monetary theory except to bankers. Okay,
well doing the research just isn't true.
Okay, so now you're back to the Thomas
Soul thing. It's just trade-offs. If we
want the modern monetary system, okay,
let me just tell you how and why this
goes wrong, what it leads to over and
over and over and over and over and over
and over. And so instead of me going,
"Oh, like hard money saves everything,"
it does not save everything. It has its
own problems. If I wasn't willing to
update my thinking, I would have been
like, "I have a cool talking point." And
I would have just ridden that horse
until the world was like, "This guy's a
[ __ ] idiot. He doesn't listen." But
because I want to get even richer, Drew,
>> I need to figure out what's