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The Wall Street Journal claims that
Trump is indeed on the Epstein list.
>> Just to advocate for Drew while he's not
here, we are never getting these Epstein
files. Do it.
>> In the article itself, there's a section
that says, "When the Justice Department
officials reviewed what Attorney General
Pam Bondi called a truckload of
documents related to Jeffrey Epstein
earlier this year, Donald Trump name has
appeared multiple times according to the
senior administration officials."
>> When I try to mentally map what's going
on, the only thing that makes sense is
everybody's in this document like left
and right. And so nobody wants this to
come out. You've got Kevin Spacy,
release the files. Trump, yeah, release
the relevant files. You had Biden silent
on it for four years. If you try to
figure out like, wait, how have we ended
up here? Donors are on the list. People
on the left are on the list. People on
the right are on the list. Trump at a
minimum, this is going to be decidedly
inconvenient for our boy Trump. Whether
it's donors, people he's promised things
to, whatever, or him himself. There's no
way this is a good look for anybody. All
the footage of him with Epstein is a
terrible look. Trump making weird
comments about his own daughter, not a
good look. Grab him in the you know
what, not a good look. Like Trump, first
of all, is not the guy you go to for
moral purity. I hope nobody is in the
Trump game for that because you're going
to be sorely disappointed. But the real
question is how gnarly are the
politicians currently running the world?
That's I think what everybody really
cares about. I don't think anybody wants
to live in a world where the modern
world is controlled by people that have
dirt on you. No matter what that dirt
is, it's like a thousand times worse if
the dirt is PDF files. It's bad no
matter what. That's where I think all of
this gets weird. We're living in an era
of such volume and velocity of
information. Politicians are not going
to be able to hide everything anymore.
They can still hide a lot, but they're
not going to be able to hide everything.
So, this is going to become a game of
controlling the narrative, using volume
and velocity of information against
people, trying to use a very rapid news
cycle to move past this stuff. It's
ultimately going to be up to us whether
this is going to be the thing that we
want to hang on to or not. And what's
wild is even I can feel it. It's like at
some point the audience just gets
fatigued and they're like, I don't care.
Even though yes, like this is profoundly
dangerous and absolutely terrible, but
I've already like had all the
interesting thoughts that I'm going to
have about it and now I'm just bored.
They know you're going to want to talk
about new things. It is insane to me the
things that that politicians can do and
then get away with because their actions
have such consequences that you can
never say, "Oh, I just don't care about
them anymore." There is a certain and
very large contingent of people that are
always going to pay attention to
politics for that reason. They just have
this ability to onto the next, on to the
next, on to the next. I still maintain
Trump is likely playing to catch a
predator with the files. Either using
them as blackmail or downplaying them to
lull people into a false sense of
security. That idea of using them as
blackmail like as a president to for
what? That's a that's an interesting
thought to me.
>> Here is what we are going to have to
deal with in the real world. In the real
world, people murder, they kill, they
enslave. That's the world we're actually
in right now, 2025. Not like, oh, 5,000
years ago this is what we did. This is
what we do right now today. That is the
human animal. Once you realize that,
it's like, how far will you go to keep
people safe? Like when you hear Andrew
Bamonte talk about moral flexibility,
and that's what they look for in the CIA
where it's like, if you could kill
Hitler, like would you go kill a baby?
You know what I mean? And then people
are like, yeah, because he's going to
kill however many millions of people.
Yes, I would kill that baby. Okay. Well,
if you knew you were going to stop a
child predator that was going to molest
a hundred people, what would you do?
Would you sacrifice a thousand kids to
save a million kids? Are you a monster
if you don't? These are the questions
put to world leaders. And I'll point
everybody at Church Hill. This is one of
those things where like every person has
to decide for themselves whether Church
Hill is a monster or whether Church Hill
is a hero. To me, it really is. So, he
was known as the lion. When a lion eats
a gazelle to stay alive, are they a
monster or is that just the way of the
world? I, for one, come down on the side
of uh I'm glad that he stood up to
Hitler, but some of the things he did
were monstrous. I could not do it, which
is precisely why you should not elect me
as president. Like, I just nope. If
you've seen A Few Good Men, there is a
character in that, Colonel Jessup, and
he talks about this very thing. He's
like, "You sleep soundly at night
because I'm willing to do unspeakable
evil. If I wasn't willing to do
unspeakable evil, you wouldn't be able
to sleep soundly because there are men
out there who will do unspeakable evil
and they will not stop until they hit a
force that is equal in the opposite
direction."
>> New web article. Trump's commerce pick
Howard Letic next door to Epstein. His
space and data ventures are tied to
Epstein linked actors. That's the real
pipeline from Epstein's blackmail
network into Trump's cabinet.
>> I don't want to be held responsible for
what my neighbors are doing. My
neighbors could be total psychopaths
running a child sex ring and I would
have no idea. And so if somebody down
the road was like, "Well, Tom lived next
door to that guy. I'd be like, whoa,
whoa, whoa. Just because he's my
neighbor does not mean that I know him,
hang out with him, anything like that."
Now, he could also be wildly in the mix.
People create networks. Networks are
extremely powerful. people will do
favors for people in their network
because they expect that to come back
around. If people are tightly interwoven
into your network, odds go up that
there's some sort of connection quid
proquo within the group. That's the very
thing that makes a network powerful. But
again, it's not certainly not a
guarantee. And just because they live
next door to each other doesn't mean
that they're connected. And just because
they're in the same financial space
doesn't mean that they're connected. But
there is so much of that
interconnection. I even think about that
as being a YouTuber in the political
space. Not solely, but certainly that's
some that's our one of our beats. The
more that you can get other people to
come on your show, have you on their
show, the more likely you are to grow?
>> If Trump's association with Epstein in
the files was incriminating, wouldn't
Obama just have used that instead of
fabricating Russian collusion?
>> No. Not Not if not if he knows that
there are also people on his side that
are in it. If half of Washington DC is
involved in this, it's the one thing
everybody knows, oh, this is never going
to come out. So, this is the one place
I'm safe. And so, you can see how that
would like escalate, escalate, escalate
where it's like, oh, I'm looking across
the aisle. If you're here and they've
got dirt on you, and I'm here, we both
see each other, then now it's mutually
assured destruction of the reputation
kind. And just like that has stopped us
from long launching nuclear weapons at
each other, it stops people from
surfacing that. It is a fascinating
aspect of the human animal, especially
males. If you really want to trip
somebody up, you get them involved in
sex. Man, it is wild.
>> Another thing I see is like how many, as
you say, not good looks does it take
before it really just becomes damning
for Trump.
>> It's already damning. But here's the
thing. What do people care about? Are
you making me richer? I really shuddered
to think how far he could go and how
much could come out if the economy
started growing at like four or five
percent. Bro,
you could find corpses in the White
House and people would be like, "Yeah,
but look at my portfolio."
>> I mean, would you stop talking about it
if it goes up four to 5% even though
more and more like leaks?
>> Would I stop talking about it? No. But I
I have a self-respect trigger. When you
get down to the individual level, it
almost stops being interesting. It's
like look at the the patterns across
humans. People just want to know are is
my life going to be better next year
than it is this year? Are my kids' lives
going to be better next year than this
year? That's what people care about. I'm
gesting a little bit that you could find
corpses in the White House because
enough people always feel like the other
side is the enemy that they would come
after him. You have a lot more leeway if
things are going well. If things are
going poorly, you're toast. Wall Street
Journal, you know, gave another article
saying that Trump had a birthday letter
to Epstein and quote unquote says,
"Happy birthday and may every day be
another wonderful secret." And it was a
drawing of a woman and around her vagina
area he signed his name. Again, if true,
that is crazy. And but to this point,
and this is now going to be pushing on
your highest value, which is free
speech, the one that you'd be willing to
fight for. Trump is suing Rupert Murdoch
over the Wall Street Journal letter. if
they're suing people for legitimate
reasons because we do have laws. Free
speech is not completely unlimited and
I'm perfectly fine with the laws as they
exist. So if that letter is fake and you
publish it anyway, then just like with
the Mcronone situation, yeah, you're
going you must suffer the consequences
for that. But if it's within the bounds
of free speech like the Co Bear thing,
as more information comes out, it
doesn't look like this was directly
Trump saying can it. It look you cannot
lose $40 million a year forever. Like
that's pretty wild. If they go after
South Park, then we'll know, okay, this
really is like this is a free speech
problem. If South Park gets away with
it, then I seriously doubt that this is
um that that was Trump going after Co
Bear. But yeah, I if it's an attack on
free speech truly, then obviously I have
a wild beef with that. If it is just
people not adhering to the laws that
already exist, then I mean the laws
already exist. Anybody can go after you
for that kind of