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Trump has taken over DC sort of. Trump
and Putin are set to meet in Alaska to
discuss Russia Ukraine war. Andrew Cuomo
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getting insane. The future is truly
going to be different. Drew DC is
getting taken over. This really is like
a It's authoritarian to be sure. Like
this is Trump. He has these tendencies.
He actually wants to take over
everything. And if you let him, he will
run your household. He will take over
your state. Like there's no doubt he has
all of those impulses.
>> Uh I did my best to actually figure out
what's going on with the crime
statistics in DC to see if this is
really warranted because when you
declare a crime emergency, there better
be an actual crime emergency. I would
say that's definitely not true. Like
there are cities that are more
problematic than DC for sure. So, this
is very much, hey, it's my backyard.
Fair enough. It is the highest risk
thing that I can put my hands on. Sure.
But in terms of it being a crime
emergency, if we're going to say that,
then there are a lot of places in the US
that are crime emergencies. So, uh, but
the thing that I found really
distressing as I started researching all
of this, is that we don't have good
data. the FBI has changed their um the
method by which they track the crimes in
2021 and so some massive amount of the
cities in America are basically like
we're not prepared to report in that
either sophisticated or deep way that
they're now requesting. So even places
like Los Angeles
>> are just like I I don't know bro like a
lot of people are getting mugged but who
the [ __ ] knows? So, it is uh it's very
difficult. And so, all of the pundits
that are talking about this particular
thing that are trying to use stats, like
they're all playing really fast and
loose games, the second you try to
pinpoint the data from multiple
different angles, you get like all these
wild answers. It seems like DC when you
take the size of city that it is, it's
in fourth place.
>> Not that that's not terrible. This is
homicide. Not that it's not terrible. It
is terrible, but again, it's declining.
And so when you say in the face of it
declining that there's a crime
emergency, that all feels power grabby
to me.
>> Yeah. This is the second time he
deployed the National Guard to a US city
in the seven months that he's been in
office. I feel like that's a record
right there in and of itself.
>> I wouldn't be surprised. Do we actually
have a real answer for that?
>> I don't, but I just can't remember a
sitting president deploying the National
Guard to two cities in 6 months. So
>> yeah, probably not in our lifetimes.
>> Yeah, that's definitely one of those
things. But in in general, um this is
his announcement. This is from the rapid
response page on Twitter um when he
announced that he's using the DC Home
Rule Act, which allows him to control
the federal municipalities as well as
the police department for 30 days.
>> I'm announcing a historic action to
rescue our nation's capital from crime,
bloodshed, bedum, and squalor and worse.
This is Liberation Day in DC, and we're
going to take our capital back. We're
taking it back. Under the authorities
vested in me as the president of the
United States, I'm officially invoking
section 740 of the District of Columbia
Home Rule Act. Do you know what that is?
>> He's right about that, by the way. So,
even even um Muriel Bowser, the mayor of
DC, is not putting up a fight from that
perspective. He really does have the
authority to do this.
>> Uh so the question becomes not can he do
it, but the question is why is he doing
it? Um, to your point, he's deploying
National Guard to Los Angeles, which by
the way, I was totally here for. I I
think that there's no doubt that uh
there is a notion in Los Angeles, just
to be very clear, California more at
large, certainly a growing sentiment
that um crime is like a cry for help and
that we need to like be more
understanding. And my thing is, listen,
it may be a cry for help, but that's not
the way to cry for help. And you've got
to have limits. You've got to put
boundaries on things. And this is just
like a kid will throw a tantrum because
they whatever. They're hungry. They're
tired. But lashing out, grabbing a vase
in the house, smashing it on the floor
is not an acceptable way to make clear
that you need a nap or that you want to
eat or whatever. So, this is where I
think that there needs to be very clear
boundaries. You cannot let a small group
of people that have legitimate
grievances terrorize everybody else. So
to me, everything starts with you've got
to make the place safe. And when you've
got people burning cars and things in
the streets, that's wild. Like you
should not accept that. And there was
way too much like
>> sort of minor condemnation on the behalf
of um Karen Bass, the mayor here, versus
like rolling in and being like, we're
absolutely not going to tolerate this.
Uh, same with Gavin Newsome. Uh, I think
that they're way too weak in terms of
like what it should feel like to live
here. And as somebody that's lived in
California for 30 plus years now, it's
like I've watched it go from rough to
good and back to rough. And uh, it's
worse. And so getting that stabilized I
think makes a lot of sense. But the
question is um, how far do we want to
let the federal government go? And I
would advise everybody as you're
thinking through this issue, assume that
it's the team you don't like that's in
power and they're going to be like,
"Well, they did it."
>> Uh, so you might like Trump, you might
like what he's doing, but if you don't
like the president and you don't like
what they're doing, where do you want
those checks and balances to exist? And
so that's what I would say people need
to be pretty careful. If you can't see
the authoritarian tendencies and Donald
Trump, you're just not paying attention.
With Trump auditing the Smithsonian, how
do we balance the history books is w is
written by the winners. How do we
balance that with talking about history
in an honest way so that way we don't
make the same results?
>> I think people have to fully understand
that there the odds that you get to the
quote unquote truth are zero. We are not
equipped to understand what is
>> even in hindsight you don't think we can
reach. vast majority of everything is
perception. It's you can say this thing
happened, but what we're really talking
about is what does the thing that
happened mean?
>> And so once you get into what does the
thing that happened mean now it's like
all hell breaks loose. I mean take
what's going on with Trump right now.
It's like people look at it and go,
"Well, he's doing it because he's a
fascist dictator want to be." Is that
true? It might be true, but it might
also be entirely false. But people are
going to battle at the level of what it
means. And so when you're going back and
looking in history and you understand
that humans are meaning-making machines,
we're looking for what does it mean?
We're trying to make sense of the world
by understanding a rustle in the bush
means I'm about to get killed or it
means like that there's a food
opportunity. Like what does it mean?
>> Okay. Uh I teach entrepreneurship.
Impact Theory University sign up today.
Uh and one of the things that I'm always
trying to get entrepreneurs to
understand is momentum. So there's this
concept in sailing called velocity made
good. And it's this idea that the wind
is going to blow the way the wind is
going to blow. So call that energy. But
you've got to get the energy pushing you
in the direction you actually want to go
in. It is the single hardest thing to do
as an entrepreneur. And so people will
often confuse speed for momentum.
Momentum you could say is high utility
speed. So it's a whole bunch of people
not just moving fast but moving in a
singular direction.
fast. That's like useful momentum.
That's velocity made good. And to get
your nation behind you, you need
velocity made good. You need everybody
to believe the same thing. The very
reason America is in so much danger
right now is that we are pulling against
each other as hard as two halves can
pull against each other. And so it stops
us from getting any momentum. China does
not have that problem. China is gaining
momentum. And so you will lose to the
nation that has more mentum more
momentum than you. because we have done
a terrible job of controlling the
narrative of what it means to be
American and we're focusing people on
things that are destructive to cohesive
national identity, even if they're true.
If you tell your people a narrative that
they then internalize, which is
destructive to cohesive identity, your
country will get overrun by countries
that have cohesive identity, that
believe in themselves, that think that
they're right. Dude, people need to
start reading what Xihinping is feeding
his nation. I'm super jealous. It It is
China is heavenmandated to rule the
world. It's like we are the best. We had
a brutal hundred years of humiliation.
It's never going to happen again. Which,
by the way, please everybody lock into
your soul this idea of 100 years. When a
country falls, it falls for a hundred
years, man. So, we are on the precipice
of falling, which is why I really want
people to understand. Argentina fell for
a hundred years. China fell for a
hundred years. like when when you go
down, you go down hard. Uh so be very
careful about allowing yourself to fall.
So anyway, we need a uh national
narrative that is empowering, that
brings us together, that doesn't pull us
apart, and we're going to have to decide
what that is. And right now the
narrative that's gaining steam on the
left is that we are uh racist
colonialists who um have stolen the
country that they are illegitimate and
that that notion even if you manage to
extract yourself out of that as you grow
up and start looking at the physics of
say economics
>> uh even if you extract yourself out of
it you're still in that frame of
reference like that's the you start
telling yourself a story of I'm
overcoming that. So for instance,
growing up, I had no sense that we were
overcoming being the bad people. I had
the sense that we, whatever that means,
we had ended slavery. I didn't even know
about the British doing it long before
us. So I was eating a cocktail of we
ended slavery. That I got to be a part
of what Martin Luther King did. That it
was like we've all come together. Um
that we've built the greatest nation in
the world. That we've used capitalism to
pull people out of poverty. Like I
didn't have to get over like we had done
all these bad things. I was just fed a
steady diet of America. Americans are
amazing. We've done all this amazing
stuff around the world. We're helping
free people. We're bringing democracy.
Now look, a ton of that was a lie. But
it was a really empowering useful let's
say it was framed.
>> It was very empowering useful framing in
terms of getting me to love my country,
to love my fellow Americans, to like
want to point in a useful, productive
direction. We've lost that.
>> Um, this reminds me of a story. It was
Christmas Eve. We were used to go to
church uh every Christmas Eve and then
like 12:00 a.m. we would open our gifts.
So I pile in the car, my older brother,
older sister, I'm sitting in the middle,
mom and dad in the front seat and we're
on our way and I'm like, "I'm so excited
to get back and open my gifts. I can't
believe like I can't wait to see what
Santa bought down the tree. I'm so
excited. I hope it's a this. I hope it's
that." And then my mom was like, "There
is no Santa. I bought all your gifts."
>> And in that moment, I think I was in
like Yeah. I think I was in like second
or third grade. It was like, but then I
look back at it and I'm like, okay, that
showed me then, okay, my mom and dad
work hard for me. I shouldn't like this
isn't just magic that there's gifts
under these trees that it takes effort,
it takes sacrifice, all these things to
give me these things.
>> And that although it wasn't the lie that
a lot of other kids had, it still kind
of turned me into a p it gave me
perspective and an appreciation for
them. Y
>> is there a sober way we can actually do
that with America or is it just the
we're at the level of the tooth fairy
now we just have to say hey America is
good there can't be any other narratives
because of how fractal we are right now
let's just all think we're good we have
no bad history we're doing the best we
can and let's just go forward like that
or can we be honest and say America had
some bumps but we overcame them and then
now look how more resilient we are or
look how hard we worked to get to this
point like is there some way where we
can kind of have that truth and get a
positive realization or do you think we
can't even handle that?
>> No, I think it needs to be as like fact
accurate as humanly possible because
then the narrative is strong.
>> So, um if your like your parents may not
even be aware of, but I really hope they
would never frame it like this. Uh we
know that our kid is going to have a ton
of social pressure on them when they get
to school to be like, "What cool things
did you get?" And so, yes, we love them
and we want to see them happy, but we
also know that that dopamine rush is
going to wear off. So, we're probably
going to give them a little bit more
than we otherwise would because we know
that they're going to go back and tell
their friends why I got all this dope
[ __ ] and we don't want them to be made
fun of and teased. That's not going to
be part that they tell you. It's going
to be we love you so much and we work so
hard for you so you can have a better
life and this gives us a chance to like
celebrate as a family to celebrate
Jesus. I don't know if that's what you
did, but like I know for a lot of people
that's it. And so it's like that's a way
better framing. And yes, they're leaving
out some things that are true, but
they're just not super useful. And even
like when you're telling yourself the
narrative, it's like like I'm just not
going to emphasize my thinking around
those things. They are true, but I'm not
going to emphasize my thinking around
those things. And they really they
impact the way your brain wires and all
that. Like they're real consequences.
Anyway, you want it to be as grounded in
truth as possible. Your parents really
do love you. They really do work hard
for you. They really do want you to have
a great life.
>> They really do like to see you happy and
it makes them happy to see you happy.
So, it's like that's the narrative that
you want to tell for sure. Um, and I
think that America has to do exactly
that. Like we've got to find the things
that are true. So, for instance, uh you
can look at Lincoln and you can say uh
Lincoln was perfectly happy to win the
Civil War without freeing the slaves.
Um, but he also died in order to free
the slaves. So, it's like which one of
those versions of the story do you tell?
And you can certainly say like I would
probably agegate this stuff. And I would
say in the beginning it's like um
America fought to free the slaves and we
paid, you know, blood, toil, uh, tears,
sacrifice because it was so just
absolutely aborant. Uh even though I'm
not religious, I'm all for people giving
like a religious spin on this that all
men are created equal. All humans are
created equal in the eyes of the Lord.
Like that's just a great thing to
internalize that everybody's sacred. I
love that.
>> Uh so all of that stuff I think is where
you start. Now, as you get older and
you're doing like a civics class, then
it's like, hey, let me give you the
reality that politics are complicated.
And if you can't uh get your people
behind you and you get voted out of
office, you're not going to be able to
make any change. So, when you really
start learning about how politics works,
boys and girls, you're going to be a
little bit grossed out because you're
going to see everything is compromised.
You're going to see that um people are
willing to give up on something that
matters tremendously. the founding
fathers like [ __ ] we're never like there
were founding fathers that were wildly
opposed to slavery while having sex with
their slaves. So it's like the [ __ ] So
uh all of that stuff is real. And at the
same time they actually did create a
system that as it played out set people
up psychologically to say I'm willing to
fight and die to end slavery. So it's
like but at the same time they were also
part of the reason that they did that
the average fighter wouldn't have been
aware of this but part of the reason
that Lincoln did that was he understood
that the European powers were trying to
pull America apart so that we wouldn't
be as economically strong and he
realized oh if I can make him being
Lincoln if I can make this a moral
crusade then we'll be able to make it so
they'll only fund one side of it.
absolutely brilliant strategic plan, but
by the way, it plays into the fact that
British ended the slave trade earlier
than anybody and that you could actually
make that moral appeal. That's awesome.
So, it's like, okay, that's fantastic.
And let's look at that. That people were
willing to be like, oh, damn. Like, even
though it's in my economic best interest
to get Americans to pull apart, slavery
really is that gross. So, it's like, how
do you tell that story? That's going to
matter. So, we need a narrative that is
both true and uplifting.
>> Um, remember the historic burning of the
what was it? The library in Alexandria
>> or Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's it, right? Um, do you ever
wonder like what lost history might have
been in there?
>> Oh, yes.
>> And there could have been things that
like defeated the whole like narrative
that we run with now and things like
that. Well, if nothing else, I look at
that and I go, um, you look at some of
the stuff around like the pyramids, uh,
some of the temples in Turkey where it's
like they move stones in ways we
wouldn't know how to move stones today.
So, it's like it's wild. And so, there
are clearly things that have gotten
lost. Um, I do love like the panspermy
of it all. Or was there at least
civilizations that were lost when um the
the theory goes that there was like all
this water, like an oceans's worth of
water that was trapped up at a high
elevation and then finally the um ice
melted enough that in in just like
essentially one moment that entire ocean
flooded down and as somebody grew up in
Washington state, you see all the
evidence of that water rushing through.
Um, so like the thought that there
really was like this cataclysmic flood
that um wiped out God knows what kind of
ancient. So it's not like they were more
technologically advanced than us um
civilization. But that yeah, that kind
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>> While I'm okay with us giving America a
shared narrative, I'm also hyper sober
that America's narrative isn't like I
don't have that full context of
America's narrative. So, by no means do
I think I know the truth and they're
hiding it. I just think that we need to
kind of evolve out of look at what
happened in 1960, 1776, and then those
are the only three dates we need to talk
about. But I think that we can learn the
truth and be empowering. It doesn't
necessarily have to be a condemnation on
everybody's a racist, everybody's a
homophobe, everybody's Islamophobe,
things like that. It
>> what's going to be interesting for me is
that in the era of massive volume and
velocity of information, you're not
going to have an option. Everybody's
going to say what they think.
Everybody's going to give their
perspective. Everybody's going to pitch
it as if their perspective is true. Um,
that just is the way that it's going to
be. And then people are going to have to
put together the narrative that they're
going to push. And you're going to see
this constant back and forth for people
wanting to isolate their kids from a
certain level of knowledge that they
don't want the government indoctrinating
their kids because they want to do it
themselves, which I do think is the
right answer. But nonetheless, they're
going to be indoctrinating their kids in
their value system. I've said a
gazillion times on the show that the
next 10 years are going to be about a
collision of values. It's going to play
out in Europe first and it is the um
world of Islam colliding with the world
of Christianity. We are going to live
through that. It is going to get wild
and it is a values collision. Let there
be no mistake. People are going to
confuse it for race. It is not about
race. It is about values. Uh but values
matter. People will fight to the death
over values. So buckle up man. Like it's
going to happen. So in a world where no
one gets to control the narrative
anymore, what does that look like? And
at what point do people go, I do want to
control the narrative. And so that's the
thing that I worry about the most
because um listen, I try to always know
the best argument against my own
arguments and the best argument against
my arguments economically is China. And
China's done some absolutely
miraculous stuff. And you can sum China
up from a um narrative control
perspective as [ __ ] sit down and shut
up or I will re-educate you all the way
to death. So, like we're going to have
to decide if we care if narrative
control has so much utility and
non-controlled narrative is so dangerous
and so divisive that we really do have
to crush it down. We're going to answer
that question. Pro that one probably
won't get answered in the next 10 years,
but it's going to be answered in the
next 20 or 30 years, that's for sure.
Uh, so we'll see. And then it's always
possible the AI just comes in and lies
to us because it realizes, yeah, you
guys can't [ __ ] deal with the truth.
Uh, so I'm just gonna give you a nice
simplified version.
>> Then where does like censorship and
debanking and all these things fall from
it? Because I was surprised. Again, I'm
doing research, guys. I'm not just down
this, right? Bo, but like Nick is still
debanked. He still can't get a PayPal
account. He still can't get a major
checking account. He's on X, but he's
still blaming from YouTube and all these
other platforms. And it's like if we are
censoring
I don't know. I feel like on one hand we
talk about how important free speech is
but then on the other hand we're saying
yeah but
>> dude
>> we got to lie a little bit and we can't
listen to these people cuz they're going
to mess us not they're going to make us
like not each other. But free speech is
definitely important and I don't think
people think free speech is important
anymore. There is certainly a subset. I
think it's important. Uh, and I mean I
think it's important to the point where
people should be able to say that they
think I am totally wrong, that I should
never be listened to, that I'm a bad
person, like all yep, go for it. As long
as they're not inciting violence, I'm
totally here for the things that the
Supreme Court has already passed. But,
uh, free speech is allowing people to
say things that you despise. I think mom
Donnie is going to irreparably
damage America. I think he the very
people he's trying to help, he is going
to hurt brutally. He should still be
allowed to say what he thinks is true.
So, I mean, he should still be allowed
to lie, quite frankly. So, he should be
allowed to say anything that the Supreme
Court has not already drawn a red line
around. Yep. And even though I think it
is actually dangerous and it will
actually hurt people, uh, he should
still be able to say it. So, um, but
from the free speech perspective, like
when you have John Kerry
saying that people will put forward um
they they will use the First Amendment
to stop our agenda to get people to do
like the right thing. And I was just
like, what the [ __ ] man? I do not
respect anybody who has that level of
confidence in themselves that they're uh
either they're so confident that they're
right that they believe the whole world
should listen to them. I don't have
respect for that person. And then the
person who is so fragile in their
beliefs that they're like I don't want
to be challenged. I don't even do that
as a CEO. So it's like I tell challenge
me go for it. Yeah. I I am blind to
things. I am aware of that. So yeah,
both of those get a hard pass for me. I
want your reaction to this trailer. So,
in my research, they retweeted an AI
generated uh Studio Giblly style uh
trailer for his show, and how he views
himself is what gives me this like
shared narrative. That's where I'm
seeing the overlap, and I definitely
want your reaction on this.
>> You just interviewed Nick Fuentes or had
a conversation with him. What did you
think of that? What do you think of him?
>> This is the way they're putting this
together. My experience with Nick
Fuentes is that he's a terrible person
and a terrible human being.
>> But he is clearly part of a campaign to
discredit non crazy right voices.
>> I can confirm he's dishonest.
>> This child, this weird little gay kid in
his basement in Chicago, young white men
who've been totally cut out of our
economy. I mean, they really are the
victims and they're desperate and no one
speaks for them. So they go to Fuentes
cuz he's like incredibly articulate and
they think he's our leader. But in one
of the saddest ironies of all, like he's
acting against your interests. Actually,
>> this is wild.
>> But then when it comes to me, I'm one of
the real disaffected white people. You
want to talk about me and them? I am
them. He says, Nick Fuentes is leading
all of the disaffected young white men.
I am a disaffected white young white
man. I was a precocious, intelligent
young white college student who went to
Boston University. who was proTrump and
redpilled by Trump and animated by
Trump's message of America first. And I
asked questions about I hope you guys
are watching your punished for it.
>> I did it years before Tucker Carlson
started talking about Israel last year
and I sacrificed and I was targeted by
the ADL by the SPLC.
>> He's not wrong about that. Like this kid
was like on the enemies list of was it
Brennan? Was on somebody's enemies list
and I was like damn
>> on the do not fly list again. He's 26
and he already got his account frozen.
He's on a watch like
>> Yeah. He would have been like in his
early 20s. So all all that stuff is
super rough and this kid is um obviously
being put through a fire that is going
to harden him. So be careful. Uh but for
somebody of my age, like every word out
of his mouth like hits me like a tin
ear. It's just it's so focused on race.
I really hate it. Um, so look, is he
disaffected? Yes. Has he been gone
after? Yes. Does he say outrageous [ __ ]
Yes. Uh, does he say things that I would
expect people to attack him for? Yes. Do
I think it is legitimately sinister that
the government will secretly uh maneuver
against you? Yes. Do I think it is
sinister that you can be debanked? Yes.
Like the both are true. Like, hey, look,
if you get in front of a mic and you say
some [ __ ] then you can expect people to
clap back. Brutus Luggo, I'm looking at
you. And it's like, yeah, if if that
bothers you, you going to have to back
off. But when they come at you and
they're debanking you and they're like
making it hard for you to live, that
that is sinister, man. And so, like,
it's hard enough to be whatever he was,
21, 22, full stop. Just to be 21 or 22
is hard. And then on top of that to like
uh make it so that you can't like earn a
living, to make you uh so that you can't
have a bank account. Like look, he's
gonna say things that are going to make
him a social pariah. That's on him. But
like let the guy like at least still be
playing the same game. You can't nerf
him unfairly. Like that to me is like
way out of pocket. So
>> I think we as a nation need to really
get on board with you've got to let
people have bad ideas. You've got to let
people express those bad ideas. and you
can't take infrastructure away from
them.
>> Um,
do you think he should be I hate the
word platformed, but do you think that
that is like a cuz I feel like out of
cancel culture, he's one of like the
three people that are still still
canceled type thing where a lot of
people were like, "Yeah, okay, we can
them, but we soft launched them back."
>> I the whole platforming thing I don't
really get. So, I think the hardest
question anybody can an uh answer is
would you platform Adolf Hitler? Uh god,
what's my short answer? Would I actually
interview? I wouldn't interview Adolf
Hitler, but I would feel like I was
being unprincipled. And so, it's just me
being like, I don't want I don't want to
sit down across from him. I don't want
that smoke. I don't think that I'm good
enough to change his mind. But like, if
somebody had him on, would I watch the
[ __ ] out of the interview? Yes. And
would I want the most gangster savage
mind in the world to like go up against
this guy? Yes. So, I don't have a beef
with platforming, but I get why people
are like with the whole Neelk boys like
that whole thing where was like, were
you guys the ones to interview BBNet and
Yahoo? Probably not. But I'm whatever,
man. Like, let him talk. When people
talk, they cannot help but expose
themselves. Uh, even if I know that he's
just spinning spinning spinning all the
time, I still want to see it. I still
want to see the ideas be challenged. So
to have this like blanket don't talk to
somebody policy is probably a bad idea,
but to want like the most gangster of
gangster people to go up against like
even just from an intellectual blood
blood sport perspective. Let's go.
>> Um Trump doing uh or world leaders. I
don't mean it specifically as Trump, but
like your president going up televise
that [ __ ] Let me see it.
>> Uh yeah, I'm all for that. So um do or
don't platform somebody feels like the
wrong sort of moralizing. All right,
Elon has been going through it because
XAI is not getting any Apple store love.
He tweeted, "Apple is behaving in a
manner that makes it impossible for any
AI company besides OpenAI to reach
number one in the Apple store, which is
unequivocally antirust violation. XAI
will take immediate legal action." He
then got a community noted that Deep
Seek hit number one in January. Uplexity
hit number one in July. Um, and both of
those things happened before the OpenAI
Apple partnership. Sam Alman retweeted,
"This is a remarkable claim given what I
heard alleged that Elon does to
manipulate X benefit himself and his own
companies and harms his competitors and
people he doesn't like." After this, it
just kind of spins into like tit fortat
pettiness.
>> Oh, no. You got to read the one where he
calls him a liar. He's like, "You're
dumb [ __ ] You're a liar." Scroll
back up.
>> You the Elon, you got you got 3 million
in your [ __ ] post. You liar. far
more than I received on many of mine
despite me having 50 times your follower
count. Will you sign an affidavit that
you have never directed changes to the X
algorithm in a way that hurt your
competitors or helped your own
companies? I will apologize if so.
>> Oh man, I hate that I love this as much.
>> Still waiting for a response from Elon
on that one.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck. Uh I didn't
see that reply. What do you mean? Yeah,
look, this is uh we live in this world.
the most public, the most successful
people in the world are just talking
online like all the time and they cannot
help but uh say some [ __ ] that I think
the rest of us like, "God damn, that was
not the one to tweet." But
>> hey, it is what it is. It is
fascinating. I I have to say, even
though um the death of narrative control
has consequences, I prefer this world.
Um, I am not a big fan of elites being
able to control the narrative, which
literally all of human history they were
able to do until social media. Social
media is a double-edged sword. There are
definitely downsides. Uh, but yeah, I
like it. I want to see more people. I
want to see the things that the weird
[ __ ] they get mired in that ends up like
bringing them down. Um, yeah, it's
interesting like really deciding that I
was going to step in front of a camera.
I sometimes because I grew up in the old
era where you could really cultivate a
persona and you could put the persona
out there and I've like completely just
traded that like I could have just been
the guy like sells a company for a
billion dollars. Oh my god. Like there
were years man before like social really
like sped up its steam and in phase one
as I call it of my YouTube career I was
giving people a persona. It was real.
Like you were encountering a real part
of my personality, but it was a very
narrow slice of my personality.
>> And oh man, people come up to me at
airports giving me hugs. Man, you
changed my life. Thank you so much. What
you've done is so incredible. Like,
praise, praise, praise, praise, praise.
Now it is a very different story. So,
uh, but it's it's far more interesting
to me. It's far more interesting. One,
because it forces me to figure out what
I actually think, uh, which is very
interesting. And then two, because I'm
so into like research and mapping cause
and effect and all of that and like it
does make me feel a bit like a warrior,
like fighting for the soul of America. I
[ __ ] like that. Like I'm here for
that. You've been saying that a lot.
>> It's self propaganda. But I love it. It
really makes me feel engaged. And the
thing is because it's born of something
real, the deeper I go into the
economics, I'm like, "Oh my god." Like
all these guys screaming like Mam Donni
is screaming about real things. Hassan
is screaming about real things. they
have the wrong solution. But uh Gary's
economics, they're screaming about a
real thing, like there's a real problem.
So anyway, I think through being able to
talk through all these problems, no one
being able to silence people that we
actually can get to a place where we can
move forward. Well, it's going to be
very messy. But anyway, I find that far
more interesting than all the controlled
narratives and all the controlled
personas. It's like, yeah, put people
on. We're about to see because more and
more people, Mr. Beast just did it. He's
going to start live streaming. How
often? I don't know. But more and more
people, I'm telling you, live streaming
is the future. More and more people are
going to do it. And people are really
gonna be like, "Yo, if we get to see
you, I mean, you get to see me speak
extemporaneously
six hours a week. I'm trying to get it
to nine hours a week, bro." Like, that's
a real thing. Like, if you are talking
about like the hottest button issues,
six,
nine, take someone like Hassan, Jesus, I
can't imagine, or Destiny or Asmin Gold.
I mean, these guys are on like 5 to
seven days a week, like 6 to 8 hours a
day. It's insanity. So, we're about to
find out a whole group of people what
they actually think.
>> Um, going back to another Elon tweet, he
talked about video games with Grock.
Imagine now making videos come to real
life. Some people have kind of combined
that with the vibe coding to kind of
imagine what these 3D worlds would look
like. And he tweeted, "Video games will
be dynamically generated by Gro in the
future."
>> This is so crazy.
>> Yeah. And then you retweeted it that
like you wanted to kind of see what the
people thought. So what how do you see
this like happening? And especially as a
game developer. It's kind of like you're
trying to build a house, but under you
the ground is literally like
transforming into something else. So
like
>> Yeah, it's it's wild. So imagine that
you're you've spent years building that
house. You've gone through all the
permitting, all that stuff, like oh my
god, this has been hard, expensive, but
you're building something beautiful,
hopefully unlike anything anyone's ever
seen. Like, oh my god, this is going to
be incredible. And uh you also are
watching a technologist who's like
building this magical device that can
print a house in an afternoon that is um
way bigger and more complex than the
house that you've spent years building.
And you look at it and you go, "Okay,
okay." Like if it's going to be that
cool, I can use it as well. So it's not
like they're the only studio that has
this. This is going to be accessible to
anybody that you know pays whatever the
fee is. So you're like, "Okay, like I
won't have to spend years. Like I can
build more and more houses. I don't have
to be like as all eggs in one basket as
I am." You know, you feel some kind of
way about the fact that whatever you've
spent is like in some number of years.
Like looking at where this actually
becomes a game that you would play and
want to play, you're 5 to seven years
away for sure. like uh because just
making something where you can walk
around and bump into things
appropriately is not the same as having
a game. If it was, we'd already be done.
We would have been done a year ago. Uh
so it's all the things you do to like
make the dopamine loops, make it fun,
give people goals, all that stuff.
That's going to be way harder for them
to get AI to be able to do in a modular
way such that you could go in and say,
"Okay, I want to do this, but not this,
and do this, and emphasize here, and a
little louder on this sound effect
here," which shocking things like that
make a very big difference. And so, uh,
like from that perspective, I've still
got five to seven years, maybe a little
bit more. We'll see. So, the real thing
for me is as a player or or even as a
creator, cuz like why do I want to tell
stories?
>> There is something I'm a hyper
respponder to story.
>> So, um,
>> the Matrix just it means something to me
like it's become a part of my mental
scaffolding. the characters, if I see an
image from the Matrix, like it really
makes me feel something.
>> Uh there are stories from my childhood,
they make me feel something. And I think
that's going to go away
>> because games will be so fast. There'll
be a Tinder effect where it's like you
get bored four minutes into a game,
you're like, "Ah, who cares?
>> It doesn't cost me anything. I'm just
swipe left. I'm on to the next." And so
just like that's had a pathological
effect on relationships because there is
no like I've got to look past some of
her flaws. I've got to work with her on
some things. Uh our friend groups get
together and there's like real
connective tissue to like a marriage
like Lisa and I where it's like man
there's so much like I have incredible
memories of members of her family.
>> So forget the transformational force
that she's been in my life. her brother
is arguably my best friend in the world.
So, it's like you've got that and then
her mom and her mom's wife, like they're
my favorite people. So, it's like all
this echo of a stable relationship that
you ride with through the years gives
you all these other things. And so, when
you invest in a game, like I played
Destiny for years. I've played Fortnite
now for like a year. And so you like
really get into it and you have
memories. All that is going to go away.
>> Let's go to Zor
>> who um
>> started the hashtag released the Cuomo
list. And I'm not going to lie, I think
he's winning this uh election race cuz
this was a good video,
>> bro. He polyarks got him like 80 or 90%.
>> Yeah. And it's like I I I don't think
it's going to work in New York. I don't
agree with his policy for that region.
Um but this video is unless he's going
to get elected.
>> Yeah. This video is gone.
>> Four years ago, Andrew Cuomo resigned in
disgrace. And you probably know why.
>> Governor's office kept the nursing home
death data secret.
>> Cuomo aggressively groped an aid
inappropriately touched on a female
state trooper.
>> Use of state resources for a co 19
memoir.
>> Less wellknown is what he spent the last
four years doing. Besides getting
trounced in the Democratic primary, in
2022, Cuomo started innovation
strategies LLC to represent individuals
and corporations in a variety of
matters. Definitely not vague. Last
year, it rad in more than half a million
dollars. Who paid for Cuomo's services?
He refuses to say, but what journalists
have been able to piece together is
troubling. In April, Bloomberg revealed
that Cuomo advised a cryptocurrency
exchange based in the Sey Shells as it
faced federal investigations. Then in
May, Politico reported that Cuomo failed
to disclose $2.6 million in stock
options to the New York City Conflicts
of Interest Board. His excuse, the
stocks were technically owned by
Innovation Strategies LLC, of which he's
the sole proprietor. Finally, in June,
the New York Times uncovered that Cuomo
had worked with his longtime friend,
Andrew Farcus, on a luxury marina
project in Puerto Rico. Farcus' previous
partner on luxury marines in the
Caribbean, Jeffrey Epstein.
>> We had a finance chair like none other
Andrew Marcus.
>> That's the thing about Andrew Cuomo.
Once you think you found out about all
of his scandals, you find out about
another and then another and then
probably another. But if my friend, the
disgraced former governor of the state
of New York, feels that's unfair.
Habibi, release your client list.
>> Yeah.
>> Bars.
>> Yep. There's a reason that he's at 80
plus% on
>> New York about to be socialist. Like
>> literally New York about to be
socialist.
>> Eric Adams can't compete with that.
Andrew Cuomo can't compete with that.
>> What's the story on Eric Adams? I don't
know anything about him.
>> There's nothing to know about him.
>> But why? What does he suck at?
>> He was a meme and then it became like
real. like he just says ridiculous
things. Um like he was supposed to be
like the I'm the nonsense like he was
given like uncle energy like I'mma take
it how show you how it is and back in my
day we used to do things like this
>> and then between co and the Trump
candidacy and then now he has like ties
to some illegal stuff he's been doing.
He just yeah he kind of lost a grip like
whoops
>> it became a meme and then it became
serious which is why with Mam Dani it's
interesting because I see him going in
the same way where he's bearing this
character of like oh burn you got quo oh
yeah it's going to be cool but when the
scandals start rolling in or when things
start to get a little dicey with that
cool ass like cool videos aren't going
to lower your rent so you know when that
comes out
>> yeah well uh it does seem like we have
to
touch the hot stove like every couple
generations to find out that oh yeah
these things don't work in reality they
really sound good the bad news is man
you are always going to encounter the
truth of how humans are and humans just
don't get down like this
>> what are the odds if he gets elected of
um it snowballing into moving into other
places versus we immediately see oh this
is bad and then we stop
>> you won't see this is bad and then we
stop because everybody's going to be
like well you got to carry it out longer
and all that stuff. So, it'll be like um
it'll be a softening of impact. You'll
lose some billionaires. Uh tax revenue
will go down. You'll squeeze a little
bit harder. You'll realize you're going
to have to like up taxes to pay for
things. And so, people be like, "Wait, I
like this all sounds rad, but I don't
know that it's working out. He'll get
his however many years in office, and
then people won't be definitively yes
one way or the other." That's the
problem. like it'll just start a
backlash that will grow where people are
like, "Okay, look, these things aren't
working." But then that has to work its
way into the popular sentiment. So,
it'll first have to like basically the
next generation has to grow up going,
"Huh, these things didn't work the way
that we thought they would." But people
say that Delasio was very similar, that
he was doing things like this that
didn't work. And so, people do recognize
pretty fast like, "Okay, wait a second.
This is terrible." but they don't update
their mental map as to exactly why it's
terrible. And so you'll get a lot of,
okay, it was a M Donnie problem, but it
wasn't like necessarily socialist policy
problems. This is how people can look at
socialism in real life and be like,
well, well, well, but you know, if you
did it for real, like that's wild. Like
I there was a guy who was saying like
what the first four years in China or
Russia, I forget which one he was
talking about. Like that was dope. And
then well yeah after that like it went
terrible but for the first four years it
was great. It's like what is happening
right now? It's like that's where those
systems lead.
>> And another question is um can mom
Donnie actually usher in those changes?
Won't he just be a mayor? What power do
they actually have?
>> Yeah. So on that I wouldn't even be able
to map out exactly all the things that
he can do. I can tell you he can't
adjust the um tax rate. So he's not
going to be the guy in charge of that.
Uh so where exactly he will exert his
power, I'm not entirely sure, but it
will be things like freezing rents and
stuff like that. Uh that would make the
billionaire class go, "Oo, hold on a
second." Um so it doesn't take a lot.
Remember when you've got 50% of people
effectively pay no tax whatsoever, uh
and then the top 10% pay someone got
like 85% or whatever it is. is really
really high. Uh so you don't have to
lose a lot of billionaires before it it
has like a 3 to 5% effect on the amount
of tax revenue that you collect. And now
all of a sudden it's like uhoh like
you've just lost billions of dollars in
revenue. So it just ends up being a
harder balancing game than people
expect. And I think in their pockets
they're thinking like we'll be either
this is New York. No one's ever going to
leave. Billionaires have already started
leaving New York. So that's a terrible
strategy. Uh and then you get the um
well we can do like punitive confis
confiscatory attacks as they try to exit
and that you're going to get real push
back on that. Like if you really want to
see people start fleeing like even start
hinting that you would do something like
that. So yeah, that um
it will be very interesting and it's
probably a worthwhile not deep dive to
release but deep dive to learn about
like what exactly can mayors do? What
have they done historically? What was
the role of the mayor in the absolute
catastrophe the last time rent control
was um placed in New York? Because what
they did to the Bronx was literally
unforgivable. Uh, and so if that was
driven by mayors and city councils, like
you know what to expect. I mean, it was
literally a war zone that inspired the
movie Escape from New York. So,
>> um, Andrew Cuomo has been clapping back
at Mom Donnie about his $2,300
one-bedroom apartment in the story that
is rent control.
>> Yeah, this is fun. I don't think it's as
strong as what Mom Donnie did, but it's
good.
>> Well, I I don't cuz he's he makes more
money. He shouldn't be in this
apartment. Like what's the
>> this is the same beef that people have
with Hassan. Hassan lives in like a $2
million house or more. And so people
like wait you're a socialist but you're
rich. Like help me make sense of that.
Uh Manny comes from a wealthy
background. So um he himself I think
people were estimating that he makes a
couple hundred grand with him and his
wife. Is he married?
>> I think so.
>> So people are saying look no matter how
you slice it or dice it this kid comes
from money. He has money. Uh, and so the
thought of him laring as like a man of
the people is a bit crazy. And he has
bragged about having a rent control
apartment when he could afford a real
apartment. So that means that there's
somebody who can't afford an apartment
that isn't getting the apartment because
the supposed socialist is taking one of
their slots. So bro, either you're a man
of the people or you're not. And the
post that Cuomo did, I think got
millions of views. Uh, I don't know if
you I can't see it there.
>> No, but this one that's only 598. He
this just a response
>> to the 2300 for the one bedroom.
>> Got it. Got it. So, uh that is where mom
Donnie is going to be weak. He's uh
Uganda is uh that's where he's from if I
remember correctly. Uh has like terrible
This is like the home of Idiiamin. Uh
just an absolute bloodbath of human
rights problems. um went to a wedding
there that was like in this really um
posh protected area. So people are like,
"Hold on a second. This kid's like doing
uh going to weddings in a foreign
country. He's wealthy over there. His
parents have money and influence. Like
this is wild that this kid is uh laring
as as a man of the people." So we'll see
how far that goes.
>> But do you think that's a valid argument
though that cuz Andrew Cuomo is rich
like capitalists can be rich why can't
socialist be rich? Because if what
you're fighting for is something that's
going to break those economics, like
what are you doing? You are doing well
in a system that you're actively trying
to break. That doesn't make any sense. A
capitalist is saying, "Yes, the system
is good. I have won in the system." And
so you should learn how to win in the
system.
>> But doesn't that give it more credence
though? If I if I am winning in the
capitalist system, I'm like, "We should
still break it cuz it's not winning."
That should give that person more
credence because they have every
incentive not to break it. he has every
incentive to stay in his $2,300
apartment and then become a a landlord
to somebody else.
>> It comes down to how you feel about
Trump saying um
>> me using all these tax loopholes makes
me smart. So if mom Donnie is going to
stand stand 10 toes down and be like
listen as long as this is a system I'm
going to win. I'm going to take your
rent control department and you person
that actually needs it. [ __ ] you. Like I
knew how to outmaneuver you. I got in
here. You didn't. Tough titties. like if
he's gonna play that card and if people
are gonna be like, "Yeah, yeah, like get
as much as you can, bro." Uh, I'll be a
little surprised. People came after
Hassan hard when it came out like how
much his house was worth. So, I don't
think that's going to be the energy.
Now, I think when people who agree with
mom Donnie see that, they're they are
not going to have a hard time overcoming
that. They're going to be like, "This is
my guy. He's saying the things that I
want said. He's promising to smash the
system with a hammer for the same reason
that people will overlook. Trump is a
billionaire saying that he's fighting
for the working man. Like when pe when
you're saying the thing that people want
to hear when you're the fighter for me,
like I'm gonna overlook a whole lot of
stuff. So yeah, I think that they will
overlook that. No problem. But it is a
banger. Uh it's Quomo at least clapping
back on something that they will care
about. So he'll get a new cycle out of
it.
>> I just don't think it's going to sway
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now, let's get back to the show. Let's
go international cuz Friday is a big
meeting between Trump and Putin. They
will have it in Alaska, which has
historic precedent. Cuz for those that
don't know, we bought um Alaska from
Russia. I want to say it was 77.2
million because they were going
bankrupt. Look at inflation. Um,
>> so it seems like this is something that
is both historical credence. Trump is
trying all he can to kind of woo Putin.
Do you have high expectations that we're
going to get a ceasefire?
>> Not at all.
>> 0%.
>> I mean, not zero%. I'm not close enough
to it. It's entirely possible that there
really is something going on behind the
scenes. the two things that I will put
on the table. Uh number one, Putin has
said a gazillion times, "Yeah, yeah,
yeah, let's negotiate." All the while
he's like, "Nope." Like
>> correct. He he has an agenda and he's
playing that agenda out. Uh Zalinsky is
up against a constitution that says you
can't give the land. So he's in a
position where it's like even if the
people voted for it, they would
presumably have to have some sort of
supermajority, which I would assume they
do not have because this is one part of
the country that supposedly has more
affiliation with Russia than the rest.
But if the rest are bigger and they can
outvote them and stop them from getting
whatever majority they need to get to
change the constitution, it's like if if
we were trying to negotiate with a
country and it required a constitutional
amendment for us to like get that across
the board, it's never going to happen.
Especially not with a guy that has shown
over and over like he's going to make
you think that he's doing something but
in reality he's got a totally different
game that he's playing and he's just
going to keep playing that real
politique is the only thing that makes
sense with Putin unless Putin thinks he
is going to lose. He's going to keep
pushing forward. He has not met the
sufficient resistance to make him quit.
I just don't see it. So he can continue
to hammer his people down. Uh some part
of him clearly believes that he's going
to be able to win this war. So you have
to convince him you're not going to win.
Like you have to convince him, not say
the rhetoric. You have to actually
convince him where he's looking at the
the chessboard and he's like, "All
right, what do I got left? I've got a
tactical nuke. I could drop that, but
okay, that's going to create problems.
I've got like my proper nukes. Okay,
that's really going to cause problems.
Um, I can like draft more people into
the military. I can uh consume more
billionaires and spend more money on the
war effort, but like is it really
getting me somewhere? The secondary
sanctions are really starting to suck."
Like, if he looks at that and he's like,
"Oh, damn. I've got people openly
rioting in the streets. I can only kill
so many of them. And it's like, I killed
a bunch and they're still riding. He's
once he runs that calculus and he's
like, okay, look, I'm not going to win.
Then it's like, all right, let's
negotiate. And as long as he's got a
narrative that he can go to his people
and be like, this was a victory cuz he's
got to think about staying in power. I
mean, play that out.
>> Yeah. If he's in a position where if I
back off, I'm going to get ousted out of
power, he's just going to keep going.
Better to lose in office than to like
just be like, okay, and like no, I'm
going to get either exiled or, oh, my
airplane blew up midair. What a shame.
So, it's
>> he's going to be running that calculus
that even if he's not willing to do the
nukes and all that stuff, he's not going
to relinquish power. there's going to
have to be a coup or something like
that. So, um yeah, I would say buckle up
for the long term. I I think he's
probably far more interested in
outlasting Trump because he's thinking
if I'm him, I only have to get him to
the midterms
>> and then his own country is going to eat
him up and
>> at a minimum, let's see what happens.
Like I got to string this guy along for
like another what, 18 months? Easy
peasy.
A Chinese Coast Guard boat was chasing a
Philippine Coast Guard vessel and then
ended up smashing.
>> This was kind of nuts.
Like that just got too close for
comfort. And then bang, there it is.
>> Yep.
>> Like did you not see the other boat? Cuz
that boat looks big to me. I feel like I
would see that other boat coming.
>> Yeah. Maybe not on the phone, but I
certainly think that the guy driving the
boat would uh Okay, so this is why the
the big boats are the Chinese boats, I
assuming. Just make sure I get all this
right. But uh that's certainly in
keeping with what I would expect. People
need to read what Xiinping is doing.
>> Uh according to reports, I obviously
don't speak Chinese. Um I'm getting this
information secondhand. However,
Xiinping has started saying um that
these are private pullet bureau
communications, but we're going to start
being dismissive to America.
Now, if they're being dismissive to
America, you can imagine how they're
being to Filipinos. It's like, [ __ ]
this is our sea. We are Southeast Asia.
You will do as you're told. If we tell
you to back down, you will back down on
principle. and the the culturally the
Chinese have like a really just deeply
entrenched idea of hierarchy and the the
person who's lower in the hierarchy
needs to show difference to the people
higher.
>> So this is that like if I told you to
move and you didn't move, I'm going to
hit you with my boat. Simple as if
you're not supposed to be here, I'm
going to run you over, shoot you, do
whatever. Like don't play. These are
RC's. They're being more and more
aggressive. Um and China in their mind I
believe is going to have hegemonic
control over
Southeast Asia to begin but just Asia
full stop
>> uh in the nearish future call the next
25 years like for them it's just like
yeah this is going to be it and then on
a long enough timeline they see
themselves as stepping into the
hegemonic position globally that the US
has had and They see that as a mandate
from heaven. So it's like don't be
surprised by this. They will escalate,
escalate, escalate. Only be surprised
that you see the footage because yeah,
you're going to see more and more of
this.
>> Does this have any indicator about what
they're going to do with Taiwan?
>> A thousand%. I if they believe that uh
Taiwan is rightfully China, uh that it
needs to be reintegrated, that they have
an economic interest in getting control
of the chips or that they believe it's
necessary for AI, uh they will 100% when
they believe that the time is right, and
I'm not the guy to tell you yet. I'm
doing more and more research on this,
but I'm not the guy yet to tell you
whether that's going to be in a month or
10 years. But for sure, Xiinping has
made it abundantly clear. We are going
to reunify with Taiwan. Taiwan is
strategically important. We will never
back down. It is one China. Uh so I mean
he he has not been unclear like he's
been messaging the same thing since he
came into power. I think he was
messaging certainly the government was
messaging the same thing before Xiinping
came into power. Like this is a
long-standing thing. So that's not going
to go anywhere. Um do they feel that
they have what they need to move on it
now? It doesn't seem like it, but they
are getting more and more aggressive.
And so the question becomes, do they get
what they need from TSMC via
negotiations with the US? If they do,
great. Then they'll back off. And I've
got to imagine that's part of Trump's
negotiations in terms of why he's giving
them access to better stuff. It's like
better to give them the release valve
than to see them make a move on Taiwan,
which would be worse for everybody. one,
it would force us into a confrontation
to establish our authority and from the
perspective of we have not migrated
enough of the chip manufacturing
capabilities to the US. So, um I get why
he would give them a release valve, but
it's only going to make them more
powerful, which is only going to march
them further down the road. So, tries to
weaken them with tariffs, tries to make
their economy less stable. That I think
is he's going to have to do that. Mhm.
>> But the biggest most important thing so
that nobody takes their eye off the
ball, you've got to onshore critical
manufacturing period. Simple as like
that's the game.
>> Possibility of a hot war. Do you think
it the Taiwan takeover and those things
will happen first before us and the US
us and China collide at all?
>> Yes, for sure. Like that
>> that's going to be the jumping off point
if
>> it could be. Listen, it will depend on
where are they economically? Where are
we economically? Like what do we have in
reserves? Right now they outproduce
ships at like 20 to1. I mean it is some
outrageous number. So we it might even
be more than that. We are way behind the
eightball. They know that.
Uh they're having their own economic
difficulties right now. We know that. So
right now like nobody's ready to make a
move. Both of us are racing towards
Thusidity's trap. They're trying to get
as strong as fast as they can. We're
trying to get as strong as fast as we
can. They're starting to bully their
neighbors. We're bullying our neighbors.
Like, everybody's trying to line up
their allies. So, they're doing [ __ ]
like that in uh Southeast Asia. We're
going to Europe and slapping them around
and giving them a bunch of tariffs.
We're telling Canada they're about to
become the 51st state. We're telling
Mexico, I can't believe we haven't
talked about this. We're going to
[ __ ] hey, you got cartels coming
across the border. We got to chase them
into your country. It is what it is.
Now, I don't know that we've said that
we would cross the border, but talking
about border skirmishes, you know how
Mexico is going to feel about that?
they're they're going to feel some kind
of way. So, um
both of these two superpowers are like,
"Listen, [ __ ] We're the big bad
[ __ ] around here. We are
economically, we are militarily, and
everybody's going to start acting like
it." This this is this moment in
history. This is Thusidity's trap. Man,
so much of history is predictable. And
the really sad thing is it's predictable
because of the way that humans are. The
human mind works in a knowable way. It's
it's complicated and of course it will
be messy and you're only ever going to
be directionally correct.
>> But these things repeat in this
neverending tragic cycle. And because I
can't get myself out of it, I
legitimately I I am not interested in
accepting second place. And I couldn't
talk myself into doing it even if I
were. Like I I'm just like that is so
anathema to uh the way I feel about
myself, the way I feel about my country,
what I know that it would be like for us
economically, my just absolute
pathological inability to um let people
hold dominion over me. This is another
reason that I pursued entrepreneurship.
I just I'm I'm a freak when it comes to
being told what to do. So yeah, you're
going to get a whole lot of that energy
from both countries and because of that
we are just racing towards like this
tragic meeting point and the only hope
that we have of avoiding it is AI. It's
either holding status quo, which China,
I'm sure, would consider a tragedy, or
AI comes and is like, "Hey, everybody,
don't worry." Like, "Free stuff for
everybody." And then we'll find out how
much people still care about being
number one. They might still care.
That's the weird part.
>> Uh, allegedly. Allegedly, cuz I don't
see that. Uh, all right. Let's jump over
to Minnesota where the Vikings, go
Vikes. We taking it this year. Vikes
will be in the playoffs. Um, anybody
want to do some sports betting in the
chat? You can follow me. I got it. I'll
put anything up on that. Um, they do
have a a new male dancer and this is
getting people feeling the type of way.
What was your like initial read when you
heard about this?
>> Uh, it seems like really a misread on
your audience. So, I was just I'm
looking at it as a marketer going I
literally couldn't care less if PE guys
in uh cheerleading is dope. Like they're
[ __ ] powerful. They throw people like
super high. It's awesome. Like when you
see collegiate cheerleading, there is no
sport that has more injuries that end in
death or paralysis than cheerleading.
>> It's crazy.
>> So cheerleading is like hardcore, man.
When it's done well, it is hardcore. So
it's like traditionally the cheerleaders
on the football field like this has been
eye candy for the guys that are the
primary watchers of football. So I'm
just like give your audience what they
want. This is like as a game developer
because I'm aimed at kids. We don't do
like super sexualized women. But like if
I were making games for adults, I give
big titties everywhere. It's like that's
for whatever reason like guys, they love
that. Great. Like give your fan base
what they want. But this just seems like
a misread of fan base. So I don't know
if this is like whoa, Taylor Swift was
such a phenomenon. Let's like give women
like a forgive me because he could be
the straightest man alive, but he looks
gay as hell. So it's like let's give him
a gay guy like doing his like cheerlead
thing. Maybe they're into I I don't know
it. But wow does this feel like a
misread of your audience. I think that
Minnesota Viking fans like actual I'm in
the stands even when it's snowing fans
are going to be like this is dumb.
>> Um I'm all for meritocracy and if he can
twerk then he should be on the
cheerleading squad with all the other
twerkers. But now is part of the
meritocracy beh
like do we need like that nice full
because he does not have a nice ass from
where I'm sitting. I'm not a fan.
>> If he can one and two and three and four
with the rest of them if he can get his
splits and his squats then he's a man
for a job. And you know what I'm tired
of these DEI people coming in and
telling people that it has to be a women
or it has to be big boobs or big butt
and that's not that's inappropriate. If
he's the best man for the job
meritocracy. If anything, this is just
bulletin board behavior for the other
football team. Oh, they got a gay guy
cheerleading. That means you got to
throw the ball heart. Like this this
what are we really talking about? This
is not a big thing.
>> To me, this is like this this is just
marketing. And if your fan base loves
it, do more of it. Like if they had an
entire squad of twink cheerleaders
because that's what puts butts and
seats, I'm here for it. But if it
doesn't, that's where I'm just like,
what are we doing? This gets so strange.
This is when people have what I call
invisible goals. So if your invisible
goal is to outreach people, okay, this
works for that. If your invisible goal
is diversity, okay, this works for that.
If your invisible goal is positivity
towards the gay community, again, if he
is gay, this works for that. Uh, but if
your goal is put butts and seats, this
is weird. Uh, I mean Minnesota is the
same place that birthed Prince, you
know, and Prince has been ambiguously
sexually or famously sexually ambiguous.
So, you know, maybe that's just they're
going to that market.
>> Yeah. Um, like I said, progressive city.
>> This works. When I say, "Dude, if people
want me to have beef with gay people, I
have got absolutely no beef."
>> So, I am just talking as a marketer.
Like, does this get your fan base amped
up? If it does, do more. If it doesn't,
do less. Prince got his fan base amped
up, but Prince is not exactly gonna
appeal to Danzig's audience. And so, I'm
saying this football NFL strikes me more
as a Danzig play and all of a sudden
we've got Prince uh energy on the
cheerleading field, and I'm confused.
So, we'll see.
>> It would be hilarious if he was straight
this whole time and he's just cleaning
up in that cheerleading bathroom and he
just [ __ ]
>> That would be amazing. That would be the
biggest plot twist.
>> Yeah. No, I'm here for that.
>> Uh, all right. Let's let's let's see how
problematic we can get. Let's keep it
going. Let's take a look.
>> Let's take us into the dark place.
>> Okay. So, Royce Lopez, who I'm going to
call a troll. Uh, I don't know you
personally, bro, but your respon your
response to the comments seem trollic.
>> So, if you're not looking at your phone,
this is uh Okay. Should I tell people
what it looks like you're looking at or
what they're actually looking at?
>> What they're actually looking at and
I'll leave the
>> Okay. What you're actually looking at is
a young man with cereble palsy who
identifies as a woman who had top
surgery and he's very excited about it.
>> Wait, isn't it would it be the other
way? I thought top. You take the titties
out.
>> Yeah, that's what he had.
>> Oh, so Oh, trail trans male who
>> Yeah. Sorry if I said that the wrong
way. This is a woman who had her breasts
removed uh and is very excited about it.
>> So, it's a trans man.
>> Trans male who has he pronouns. Yes. So,
born female, had breast removed and has
cereble palsy and is very excited to
show off. Okay, that's what you're
actually seeing. That's not how the
poster presents it and that's not how
most of the people in the comments
reacted just for maximum clarity. And
then the person who presented it said,
"Every single person who encourages from
family members, friends, and a doctor
who performed the sex chain surgery on
the severely mentally [ __ ] person
should spend their entire life
underneath the jail, and that's because
we only do the death penalty for
murder." Um, is there a line between
gender identity and mental capacity?
Like, should we only do trans surgeries
for people who can sign the waiver form?
like is there something that is there
some type of safe guard that should be
in place there as
>> uh you are of um efficient or uh an
appropriate level of intellectual
capability. Now it is my understanding
that people with cerebal palsy while
they have a very hard time controlling
their motor skills as you're seeing here
that they are cognitively there. He is
uh cognitively capable and of age so
like do your thing. Mhm.
>> No, no beef whatsoever. Um, if somebody
was actually mentally [ __ ] that to
me is like crazy town
>> that they
>> you cannot let them. No way. Hard pass.
That that is sinister. The you can have
physical complications, be living with
pain forever for something that you
don't understand. That is somebody
puppeteering you. If you do not have an
intellect that meets a certain
threshold, you are not able to think
through these things clearly. You're not
able to predict like future outcomes
clearly enough. And so the odds of them
being bamboozled like there are people
that have plenty of cognitive horsepower
that end up wishing they hadn't
transitioned because of things like uh
certainly with bottom surgeries it can
be so complicated and there can be
discomfort that goes on forever. So it's
like these are very difficult things to
think through and so uh again if
somebody's got the cognitive horsepower
great and as far as I know uh regardless
of cable palsy you are able to think
normally regardless of motor function
control. So this one yeah cool if that's
what they wanted to do does not strike
me as the best idea but if that's what
they want to do they should be allowed
to do it.
>> Well some people want to let miners
transition as well that's madness and
that that's my next thing. So if I this
is why I'm nervous about this argument
because if it becomes a cognitive thing
then we take age away and they say well
if it's a for a bright 14y old then they
should be able to so that scores 100
then you know what I mean
>> dual age and and I do think that that
makes sense age and intellect
>> and by all means make the number low I'm
not trying to trap people that I just
think oh this guy's an idiot that's not
what I'm trying to go for saying there
is legitimate realities to be faced
about cognitive ability. I wish there
was not, but there are. Uh, and you pick
some threshold. I should not be the one
to set that policy. I'm merely giving
you my answer. If you're asking what I
would vote for, that's what I would vote
for. People need to make their own
decisions and we will take I'm perfectly
willing to live in a world where it's
like everybody gets to vote and it's
like whatever we decide. Even if I think
it's idiotic and I will scream from the
rooftops that I think it's idiotic, but
I'm not going to burn things to the
ground. I'm not going to try to storm
the capital. I'm going to be like,
"Listen, I get it. This is a world that
we live in. I don't get to control
everybody's thinking, and I shouldn't be
able to control everybody's thinking,
but I have no problem telling you where
I'm at." I I feel like age has been like
the great negator, and we're so used to
it that I think that's a easy place to
start. Um, I'm just glad we're not
having an argument about seven and eight
year olds transitioning more. And at
least
>> that was wild.
>> Yeah. Now we're at least getting a
little bit more nuanced with it. Um,
>> it's crazy, man.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right.
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