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Trump promises if Hamas doesn't chill,
their end will be fast, furious, and
brutal. He also essentially declared war
on Mexican drug cartels and BLM. Candice
lights the internet on fire by teasing
Charlie Kirk's betrayal. People are
hungry for whatever batch of receipt she
has. Now, Japan elects their first
female prime minister, and she promptly
sets about deporting all illegals.
Ireland is literally on fire over the
alleged rape of a 10-year-old by a
migrant. And billionaire Palmer Lucky
has some wild health advice that you've
got to hear to believe. I feel like it's
Trump beat everybody cuz I blink and
there's a new terrorist group. I blink.
We just bombed another South American
country. I'm like, I like uh moringa. I
like salsa. I don't got no beef with
South America. Why we out here so hard?
>> But everybody could get it. Um
Argentinian, we buying their beef and
now we got beef internally. It's it's
there's a lot of We're fighting a lot of
wars on a lot of different fronts.
>> Yeah, it's interesting. So reading all
of this, I will admit that the first
gear I was in was like, hm, this is our
peace president.
>> That's sort of the initial headline
reaction, but I think the Listen, I
don't think Trump navigates these things
perfectly well. I want to be very clear
about that. But I do think that what
you're witnessing is a very imperfect
person who understands both sides of the
leverage coin, which is the carrot and
the stick. Uh what you see going on with
um Argentina is very much all carrot. So
I think he shares a value set with Malay
and wants to make sure that they can
point to them as a success story of
prudent economic principles of
capitalism like all of that. They want
to be able to say see look for a hundred
years these guys tried socialist
experiment. It didn't work. Uh which it
really didn't. That's just objectively
provably true.
>> And now the question is going to be
Malay called a shot. So we're going to
do all these things. seemed like he was
having a good run and then something
happened. I haven't looked closely
enough at the situation to know exactly
what broke. Uh but Trump is in there
really trying to help make sure that
they get to the other side of it. But
all of these things are trade-offs. And
so of course his base is like hold on a
second. Like are we America first or
not?
>> So anyway, you put all this together. He
knows carrot. He knows stick. In some
places he's obviously very willing to
use the stick all across South America.
Uh, I think you were saying that someone
in chat was saying, forgive me for not
knowing the names, but they were
pointing out that a lot of what's going
on in South America is really a US
vChina proxy battle. And I think that's
a really smart way to read that. I've
been doing a lot of research on China's
gold corridor.
>> Just wrote a deep dive that touches on
this. It wasn't about that specifically,
but it touches on that. Uh, coming out
on Monday. Please, guys, by the way,
your embrace of the deep dive format is
insane. I could not be more grateful.
>> Uh, so we have the latest one coming out
on Monday, and I think that's a really
interesting read in terms of what's
actually going on with all of our beef
with South America. I don't know if that
plays so much into the Mexico thing. Um,
>> yeah, let's jump into that cuz that's
actually what surprised me is because
Trump actually declares we're on the
cartel saying this is a problem. We're
going to take it over. and he's even uh
suggested sending armed troops across
the border. So, this is um Fox News when
they interviewed him um yesterday.
>> We're talking about sending military
forces to fight against the drug cartels
in in Latin America. Uh do you think
it's it's worth sending our forces, our
US forces there to take this on?
>> Cartels where?
>> In central central Latin America.
>> Well, Latin America's got a lot of
cartels. They've got a lot of drugs
flowing. So, uh you know, we want to
protect our country. We have to protect
our country. we haven't been doing it
for four years and uh we love this
country like they love their countries.
We have to protect our country.
>> The fact that he has this impulse to be
very protective of America, to be
America first, to want to see us win, to
be just hyperfocused, not on a global
perspective, but on like, okay,
>> my job as the president of the United
States is to think about American
citizens, to protect our borders, all
that. I love that. But when you have,
this is the classic case of people just
trust themselves too much. When you get
into the like, oh, there's a boat off
the coast, just like hit it real fast
with, you know, a drone strike. That's
where I'm like, oh god, you've really,
there's a reason that due process is a
thing. There is a reason that the
founding fathers were extremely paranoid
about any part of government becoming
too powerful. And we're living through a
period right now where uh
people want the government to be big for
sure. When you hear people talk about uh
how many entitlements they want. When
you look at the energy behind M Donnie,
all of that stuff tells me they want big
government on that side. And then you've
got another faction that wants to see
because they believe in Trump, they want
to see him extend his powers, use more
executive orders, go into more
countries, boss more people around. And
it's like, oh god. Like this is this is
the very thing that the founders were
warning against is yes, when it's your
team, you get very excited. When you
believe in the cause, you love to see a
good riot. When you don't believe in the
cause, now all of a sudden it's like,
hey, what are we doing? This is crazy.
This is out of pocket. We got to send in
the National Guard. Like, we got to
stamp this down. I I am 100% guilty of
that. When I think, yo, we can't let
this go. I'm like, send in the National
Guard 100%. But if I think if Biden had
been sending in the National Guard uh to
places where it was something that I
didn't agree with because I really did
not like what Biden was doing, uh I
would have had a stroke. So I get this
is why you always want to flip it and
look at, okay, my my team is going to be
out of office at some point and do I
want the people that I hate to have this
ability? And if you do, great. If it's
like, yeah, I've got no beef with that,
cool. then push for it. If you would not
want to see your quote unquote enemy
wield that power, you don't want to let
that power become standard. And I feel
like we're seeing a lot of that right
now. You see a lot of the right cheering
for this because
>> well, they like who's in power. It's
it's interesting to me though because
I'm trying to find that balance between
this is something that we're actually
doing to try to keep Americans safe and
this is something that the
administration thinks we're doing
something to keep the American people
safe but it's kind of like a moving
target. So it's it's almost like right
after uh uh 9/11 the term terrorist
meant no dis like you can't argue with
it. If I say I'm going to get
insurgents. Yep. Cat William has a great
joke about that. Like as soon as you say
insurgents, it doesn't matter what's the
next sentence after that. Insurgents,
cool. Do whatever you want to them. Kill
them. They have no freedom. They have no
rights. It's fine because it's
insurgents. Uh but I feel like we're
kind of getting into that territory by
saying, "Hey guys, fentanyl, let me do
my tariff war. Fentanyl, let me go into
Mexico. Fentanyl." And as soon as people
say that one word, it's like, "Okay,
because I said that buzzword now all
accountability is gone. All due process
is gone. Congress doesn't have to get
involved. I'm going to use my emergency
powers." How do we balance that? Cuz I
there is a crisis. I do care about the
people that are overdosing, but at the
same time, I don't want to just give,
you know, Trump a free pass to go and
move as he sees fit.
>> You you need to like even if you're
going to move the goalpost on what we're
calling due process, you still have to
have due process.
>> So, right now, if your due process is I
see boat moving uh that boat's moving
too fast to be anything other than
fentinel, like hit it. That that's where
I'm like, okay, hold on. Like, there is
an error rate. I don't know what that
error rate is, but there certainly is
one. And so having the humility to say
uh is hitting every like are we willing
to hit let's say 10% of innocent people
to make sure that we catch 100% of the
fentanyl coming in via that like means
>> I would say that that's the wrong
answer. So whether if you're going to
say this is a big enough problem that
we're willing to just, you know, drone
strike on site, then put the actual Navy
in that area, patrol that, shut it down.
I'm not saying don't take the actions.
But if we're really saying that it's
important enough to just keep drone
strike, drone strike, drone strike, then
it's important enough to get closer to
these boats and find out what's really
going on. Because dude, I'm just telling
you the attitude of like, I see this so
clearly. I know that we can just kill
without getting on that boat, without
seeing who's there. Um,
that logical fallacy of thinking that
you can see things clearly, that you are
the one that ought to be able to
determine the acceptable cost, that you
ought to be able to determine uh just
anything can be an emergency. you get
into this position where you'll get the
not only do you create a problem in that
moment because there's no way that
you're seeing it 100% clearly, but
you're also going to just exacerbate the
infighting because now you're taking
these more and more extreme steps which
makes the other side feel like they have
to take more and more extreme steps. So
every time Trump does something, even
when I agree with them, if he does it in
an extreme way, I'm like, the second
that you lose power, they're going to
have the equal and opposite reaction,
and they're going to start doing things
just as aggressive, just as by fiat as
you're doing, and it's not necessarily
going to be things that the other half
of the country agrees with. And the fact
that they can't all see that, the fact
that they can't recognize that what we
need to be doing right now is working
together, finding a path to meet each
other somewhat in the middle, um
creating transparency around that. So,
if you're saying, listen, this is what
we want them to agree with. They're not
agreeing to it. These are their demands.
Like, what's going on with the
government shutdown right now? All
right, fair enough. Like, if we just
can't agree on anything sensible, but at
least let me know what we're talking
about right now. what Trump is doing is
just move fast, kill things, and then
figure it out later.
>> Yeah, it it's interesting, too, because
this is also starting to break on party
lines. Somebody even said it on the chat
is that Trump is starting to look like a
neocon. He's going after other
countries. Some people are saying for
resources, Venezuela has oil. There's a
lot of oil reserves in Latin America.
This is now a proxy war versus China. We
need to get our hemisphere locked down
just like China has Africa and some
other Asian countries locked down. So,
there's all these new subjective takes.
I don't want to be kin to someone's and
try to connect dots, but it does seem
like it's not what what we're being told
is not what's actually true.
>> That's always going to be true. So,
politicians are always going to spin.
You look when we first started doing the
lives the we made a James Burnham button
because I was talking about it
endlessly. People really do need to
remember the read the book the maky of
aliens by James Bham. He makes a very
clear and cogent case for the fact that
by their very nature politicians and
I'll bucket elites in that they are
constantly trying to control the
narrative. There's a reason for it.
There's a very good reason why people
want to control the narrative. It allows
everybody to share a set of truth. It
allows everybody to get on the same page
and move together as one unified body.
which because we're in a moment right
now where we can't do that, hopefully
people can see what the value of doing
that would be. Historically, that's been
a lot easier to maintain. Social media,
social media made that effectively
impossible. And so now you've got every
narrative under the sun. And so the
illusion that they create becomes so
obvious that in many ways it stops
working because everybody knows and
feels the well, I'm not being told the
truth. And so the problem is once that
center of gravity breaks and you no
longer have a belief that there are
three trusted sources and you know
there's going to be some discrepancy but
it's not going to be wild. We're going
to more or less agree. We are way way
way closer to the middle than we are
right now typically. And so it's like
okay cool like I get I take this issue a
little bit differently than you but
we're looking at the same thing. We
agree roughly on a set of facts and
as that disappears
you start getting into like conspiracy
brain where now because you don't have
the oh I can believe these trusted
sources it becomes I can't believe
anything anybody tells me except for
whatever person you align with. And so
once you get into that position you
start seeing things that aren't
necessarily there. you start adding
meaning to dots. The dots are really
there, but you start adding meaning and
connections to them that aren't real,
that aren't true. And so it I mean, this
is going to have to play out because you
can't, at least from where I'm sitting,
it would be a far worse disease to clamp
down on this from the top down and say
we're going to enforce one conversation,
one set of truth the way that they do in
China or Russia. Um but it is
it has a consequence when people don't
trust anything.
>> Yeah. And he's getting some push back.
So I want to kind of set up a couple
perspectives. So first this is Rand
Paul. He was at he was on Piers Morgan
yesterday and he kind of came with an
opposite take about the Venezuela
situation.
>> Number one, there is no fentanyl made in
Venezuela. Not just a little bit.
There's none being made in Venezuela.
These are outboard boats that in order
for them to get to Miami would have to
stop and refuel 20 times. They're all
likely going to Trinidad and Tobago,
which is an island right off of the
coast of Venezuela. So there's a lot of
reasons to be worried about this, but
number one is the broader principle of
when can you kill people
indiscriminately? When you're at war.
That's why when we declare war, it's
supposed to be done by Congress. It's
supposed to be thoughtful, supposed to
be debated, and we're not supposed to do
it willy-nilly. And then when you have
war, you just kill people in the war
zone. And even then there are rules of
engagement. But interdicting drugs has
uh always been a criminal activity and a
criminal uh anti-rime sort of activity
where we don't just summarily execute
people. We actually present evidence and
convict them.
>> So is there a difference between how we
traditionally approach it to what we're
doing now? What do you think is kind of
changing the the landscape? Why do you
think the game plan changed? You're in
fight orflight mode as a nation based on
economic problems that will not be
interpreted as economic. It will be
interpreted as political.
>> Uh when people are scared, that's what I
mean by fight or flight. When people are
scared, they're going to transmute that
into anger because anger is far feels
far better than anxiety or insecurity.
Then you need something to aim that
anger at. If it doesn't have an anchor,
it becomes hard to hold on to.
Politicians understand intuitively or
expressly that if I can point them at my
enemies, then I can get them behind
basically whatever it is that I'm trying
to accomplish.
>> And so right now what you see because we
are in a populist moment because of debt
and inflation, let's just never lose
sight of why we've ended up here. It
becomes people have that anxiety. They
want to be angry. politicians give them
something to be angry about and then
it's like you just sort of
indiscriminately point it at whatever
you want using bud buzzwords whether
today's buzzword is fentanyl or
terrorist or whatever um you use it and
you get people all riled up. If you can
get people to believe they're the reason
that your loved one died or they're the
reason that your jobs are going away,
they're the reason that you can't make
ends meet, we just got to like get them.
Then people are going to be like, "Yeah,
[ __ ] it. I need somewhere to place this
anger. I need someone to be angry at
because anger feels so good.
>> Uh, and that's why we're in the moment
that we're in. And the problem is that
because so much of what's happening
isn't going to solve our problems.
You're you're getting more fear, more
anger, and so people start lashing out.
Now, that also gets all mixed up with
the fact that we have more reason to be
worried now than we have in a very long
time. from the dollar being devalued at
just a distressing rate, the rest of the
world starting to make slow, but they're
making inroads in terms of getting the
dollar to be used in fewer and fewer
transactions. When you look at the
number of um central banks around the
world that are holding US dollars, it
it's going down and down and down.
>> So, um the US's position in the world is
weakening. The US's position as a
manufacturer has been obliterated for a
very long time. AI is looming on the
horizon in a way that is [ __ ] with
people. I don't think we're being honest
about how anxious people are. And that
anxiety just sort of sits in the back of
the mind. So, you put all of that
together and you're just getting this
accelerating bundle of anxiety
constantly being translated into anger
at a time where you've got all of that.
Plus, you had four years of just wide
open borders. And so, a lot of the
things that people are pointing to are
real. You really do have an immigration
problem. You really do have a wage
stagnation problem. You really do have
an inflation problem. Even if it's down
now, dude, since 1913,
the US dollar has lost 96% of its value.
And what that means is back in 1913,
if if you wanted to buy something that
cost a dollar in 1913, okay, it cost a
dollar. It would cost you $30 today.
Think about something that cost you a
dollar right now. like a burger, like a
cheap burger at McDonald's. I don't even
know if they still do the 99 cent menu.
>> Nope. It's 319.
>> Oh my god. So, this is what I'm talking
about, dude. I lived off of the 99 cent
menu uh for a an extended period of
time. And that is the like imagine the
90 the 99 cent menu is $30.
>> That's the difference between then and
now. And then if people want to be like,
okay, but that's over a hundred years,
bro. in the last five years, you've had
25% inflation alone. So, yeah, people
are not um they're not able to track the
cause and effect of how we ended up here
and therefore they will lash out at the
the real things, but they'll lash out in
disproportion. So instead of saying I'm
going to be watching Japan very closely,
my ass assumption about what Japan is
going to do because they're only at 3%
immigrants is that this is going to be a
nice orderly thing. These are the people
that we're going to get out. We're going
to go just sort of, you know, knock got
to go and they're they'll slowly over
the next call it 5 years just push
people out. Now, if they go uh unhinged,
then okay, I will have been wrong. But
my assumption is that given that they've
acted early, uh given that the Japanese
just tend to do things in an orderly
fashion by culture, I think you can
expect it to play out like that. And
that is, I hope, going to be a model for
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declaring war with the cartels, we're
already kind of in this uh faux war with
Venezuela. He also has just signed a
domestic order uh claiming BLM and
Antifa as um domestic terrorist
organizations. So, this is from him
signing the executive order
>> countering uh domestic terrorism and
organized political violence. In recent
weeks, months, and years, we've seen a
tremendous upsurge in some highly
visible, but also other acts uh of
domestic terrorism and organized
political violence being perpetrated by
radical politically motivated groups all
over the country. What this presidential
memorandum will do is set off an
administrationwide response to that,
ranging from the joint terrorism task
forces to other components of the
Department of Justice to the Department
of Homeland Security, the Department of
Treasury. We're looking at interdicting
these groups, preventing them from
performing acts of violence and also
looking at sources of organization and
funding and support that prop them up
and allow them to do the acts that that
they have been doing.
>> We're looking at the funders of of a lot
of these groups and uh you know when you
see the signs and they're all beautiful
signs made professionally. These aren't
your protesters that make the sign in
their basement late in the evening
because they really believe it. These
are anarchists and agitators.
professional anarchists and agitators
and they get hired by wealthy people
some of whom I know I guess you know I
probably know them and you wouldn't know
it you at dinner with them everything's
nice and then you find out that they
funded millions of dollars to these
lunatics
uh Steve could you say a couple of words
>> this is a very historic and significant
day this is the first time in American
history that there is an all of
government effort to dismantle left-wing
terrorism to dismantle Antifa uh to
dismantle the organizations that have
been carrying out these acts of
political violence and terrorism. What
we have seen if you look at whether it
be going back to the riots uh that
started with Black Lives Matter and all
the way through to the Antifa riots, the
attacks on ICE officers, the doxing
campaigns and now the political
assassinations. These are not lone
isolated events. This is part of an
organized campaign of radical left
terrorism. It is structured. It is
sophisticated. It is wellunded. It is
well planned. There is really no
parallel like this anything to anything
else in the country right now.
>> What's your initial reaction? Because it
seems like he's connecting everything
from 2020 to what's going on now with
Charlie Kirk kind of being the
exclamation point.
>> Do you believe it's like a coordinated
effort? Do you think this is just kind
of to that point of this is populism,
people need a bad guy?
>> No, I think it's I think we're going to
find out in the fullness of time that
it's hypercoordinated behind the scenes.
I've started seeing people putting out
economic data on the NOS's and how
they're donating money and those groups
at least at the level that I'm at of my
research right now do seem to be
involved in like the no kings riot riots
the no kings marches.
>> Uh so
I will be very surprised if we don't
find out that things like the George
Soros um Open Society Foundation aren't
behind a lot of things like this. And
there's several billionaires that are
playing the game like that.
>> Um, so Mike Benz is the guy to look at
for all this NGO stuff. I was blown
away. I was literally changed as a human
being. Watch researching him for the
interview that we did together. Uh,
which shout out I should have memorized
the guy's name, but somebody on Twitter
um, with a decent following sent the
episode around saying this is one of
Mike Ben's best episodes. Um, so yeah, I
encourage people to watch it. He is um
very good at showing the financial
breadcrumbs of how these people are
donating, what they're going to how
movie how money moves around the NGOs's,
how this started when the CIA was
basically taken before Congress and
they're like, "Okay, so we're not going
to be able to do some of the stuff we
were doing before where we get a slush
fund and we just go do all this stuff
ourselves. So now we're going to get
these NOS's to fund it for us." And that
was wild because I had always had just a
sort of generic belief that NOS's were
dog good organizations. And the bad news
is I'm sure I don't think any of these
people think they're doing anything
evil. I think that they are like,
>> "Hey, we've got these companies. We've
got a fiduciary responsibility to our
shareholders." Like, and by the way, we
pick up companies that we think are, you
know, doing good things in the world.
I'm probably being overly generous, but
you get the idea. And so they go in,
they go into a country and are like,
"Well, if I do this and push on that
lever and get to know this person, then
we'll be able to corner the market on uh
oil deals with whatever country in
question. And that's going to be great
for the shareholders that are invested
in our fund." And so great, we made a
lot of people, a lot of money. This is
wonderful.
>> And my beef is with the lack of
transparency, not understanding what
they're doing, how much of this they're
getting into trying to manipulate
society itself. So, there was a really
interesting video put out about
California by a friend of the show, What
If? Alt Hist. Shout out to our boy
Ruddyard Lynch. Uh, and in the video, he
asked the question like, why don't these
billionaires
build like public service things like
libraries and things like that like they
used to, and this is his quote, in
extractive times. And so
my answer to that is they don't because
they're so busy trying to remake society
itself. They all believe that they've
got the vision for where this ought to
go and they're willing to put their
money into it. And so whether that's um
George Soros and everything he's doing
with Open Society Foundation and getting
DAs to be more lenient and all of that
or whether it's what Elon Musk is doing
with getting hyper involved in politics
obviously buying X and fighting for
freedom of speech. It doesn't matter if
you agree with them. What matters is
this is where they're putting a lot of
their time and attention is saying I
have a vision of a better society. I've
got the capital to make that real. So
instead of making my contribution to the
world that I'm just going to go out and
build these buildings, which they'd
probably get stuck in red tape and
morass anyway of trying to get that
across the finish line these days, but
instead of that, what I want to do is I
want to go to the infrastructure of what
makes things better or I want to fix the
things that make it worse or I want to
build the things that make it better.
And so people are going to disagree with
a lot of their assessments, but that's
the game that's being played right now.
>> It's interesting to me though, cuz I I I
definitely understand the sentiment
behind it. Um, but I do feel like
connecting Charlie Kirk's assassination
with the No King's protest with Black
Lives Matter with Antifa is kind of
lumping everybody on the same side and
just calling them all kind of political
enemies. And that's the part that I'm a
little bit apprehensive about is where
it comes down to like
>> we like the left is a domestic terrorist
organization versus saying there are
domestic terrorist terrorist
organizations. And I I know that
designation seems like minute, but it
this some people are seeing this as
okay, Trump is just doing everybody
who's not my political ally is now a
political enemy. And not just an enemy
that I'll battle with in Congress on the
floor, but a political enemy that I'm
going to try to have executive orders
against and I'm going to take judicial
powers against. And I'm just worried
that again when the tide goes to the
other side, we're gonna now say, "Okay,
well the Proud Boys and everybody who
was on January 6, they're now domestic
terrorists and let's go after." So it
kind of seems like I don't know if this
is good cuz you're calling American
people who were just marching 2020 cuz
they were frustrated they were locked in
the house and they kept seeing people
die. I don't know if they're the same
terrorists that we think they are versus
the people who are actively causing
insurrections, people who are actively
uh doing bombs and Teslas and things
like that. I just don't want a broad
brush to be painted on everybody that
ever protested against Trump, period.
>> I think that's very wise. The question
becomes, why is he painting them with
that broad brush? I think this will help
people understand what Trump is actually
doing.
>> From where I'm sitting, Trump has a
playbook in his mind, which is, okay, I
can do executive orders. I can do
emergency powers, and then I can get law
and order back in place. I think if you
try to map him as only a self-serving
political animal, he'll confuse you. But
if you map him as a self-serving
political animal who actually does love
America and actually wants law and
order, again, you don't need to agree
with him on those things. But if you're
trying to map his behaviors, if you
think of him as somebody who is uh
extremely patriotic, loves America,
wants to see America do well, not
exclusively because he is a self-serving
politician, narcissist, uh you know,
megalamaniac in some ways. So, like all
of that is also true, but he also
happens to love his country and he's a
big law and order guy. So, when he looks
out at the world and he sees people
being violent, uh, pushing back on
things that he likes now, he's like,
"Okay, wait, what was that stack of
things that I have again? I have
executive orders. Okay, I'm going to do
what I can there. I have emergency
powers that'll really let me do some
shit." Oh, wait. If I designate these
guys as terrorists, then I've got all
the stuff that I can do to them,
including because the big scary part in
this meeting for me is you will notice
going from uh right to left, you've got
uh JD Vance, then Scott Bessant. Okay,
so Scott Bessant is very close to
President Trump. That is not an
accident. This order matters.
Everybody's fighting to be the one
that's standing right next to the
president of this, I assure you. And so
the what Scott Besson said when he came
into office was, "Oo, I spend most of my
time doing economic warfare." Okay, let
that sink in. So Trump, it wants to use
that same economic warfare against the
people that are marching against the
things that he likes. So he's like,
"Well, if you look and squint just this
way, you can make them terrorists. Now
when they're classified as terrorists, I
can do all this other stuff, including
economic warfare. So I'm going to go
after these people." Now, I can't sound
a loud enough alarm bell. uh even though
I am not a fan of Antifa, even though I
am not a fan of much of what has come
from BLM,
>> uh making them terrorists so that you
can go no more bank account for you that
wof without like due process. I'm all
for pursuing these people, build a case
against them if they're doing something
illegal that they shouldn't be,
prosecute every single one of them. But
just as let's say that Leticia James
ends up being guilty of everything that
she's being accused of. I don't want to
see anybody go. Well, let's just first
label her as a domestic terrorist and
then this gets a lot easier and we'll
push her through the system that way.
It's like you've got to do the thing.
You've got to go and build a case and
prove it because these guns can and will
be turned on you at some point for
whatever thing is that we do that's out
of step with the government. And we want
the government to be afraid of the
people. We do not want the people to be
afraid of the government. And so I'm
perfectly willing to accept that there's
going to be some amount of yeah
[ __ ] on the street doing things in
protest where it breaks violent and
rather than us just categorize everybody
as a terrorist to make them easier to
shove through the funnel, we're going to
go we have to go on the street, we have
to arrest them, we have to build a case
against them and then put them in jail.
What I don't want to see is we go pick
them up off the street, don't arrest
them or we arrest them but let let them
back out. The charges are low. No, no,
no. Like you if you're throwing rocks at
cops, bro, that that changes your life.
The second that rock leaves your hand,
your life is different forever. You are
going to jail 100%.
>> So, and that's I don't care what side of
the fence you're on. So, throwing a rock
at a cop needs to be a Rubicon where
you're because look, I'm a big believer
in the Second Amendment. I am a big
believer that hey, if a government gets
tyrannical, you've got to like be
prepared to stand up against it. But the
reality is, just like if you think your
wife is acting outrageous because she's
about to be on her period, you better be
sure that you're ready to play that card
before you do it. Bro, before you say,
"I'm going to exert my Second Amendment
rights because I think the government is
tyrannical before I throw this rock at a
cop." Dude, you've got to be like, "Yes,
I'm going to change my life forever.
It's that important to me." And if you
fail to uh push that line that far back,
your life is going to suck.
>> Yeah.
>> And so, yeah. Anyway, the government
should not be going so quickly to you're
a terrorist, you're a terrorist, because
then it just looks like the Canadian
trucker convoy to me. And that's absurd.
>> And I guess that's my worries because
we're seeing it already with the
Venezuelan boats. Like, oh no, they're
drugs. There's cool. Then it's going to
be like, oh, a bunch of these people got
arrested. Oh, they're in Antifa. It's
cool. and we're just kind of now making
these designations to just wave people
off. I want to jump over to uh the Hamas
thing that you brought up earlier. Now,
it kind of seemed that the tone is
changing. Not necessarily that he's
going to get him, but that he has had
other people, other countries sign up to
help out with him. So, I guess I think
this is a big win because it alleviates
us from getting in another forever war.
Um but also it just can also show that
there's pressure from the surrounding
countries to actually clean up the
region. So
>> yeah, if this ends up being true, and by
the way, it's uh row 7. If it ends up
being true,
>> this is historic. If he really has the
surrounding Arab nations that are like,
"Yeah, we'll put boots on the ground.
We're prepared to go in and just
absolutely hammer these guys into
oblivion." That would be insanely
impressive. Now, Trump is known for
rhetoric, so he'll say a lot of things.
It doesn't necessarily come to fruition.
But Drew, honestly, if he pulled that
off, I would be more impressed that he
got Arab nations to put boots on the
ground in Gaza than that he got a peace
deal between Israel and Hamas. Like,
that would be just absolute legendary
status. Now,
>> no matter how you shake it or bake it,
no matter who the troops are, if you're
going doortodoor with guns, you're back
in Iraq.
>> Yeah.
>> This is not going to go well. This will
not be fast. It might be furious. It
might be brutal, but it's not going to
be fast.
>> Um, okay. This is the treat uh the Trump
social, the truth social. Uh, it should
be Trump social. He owns it. But either
way, um, numerous of our now great
allies in the Middle East and areas
surrounding the Middle East have
explicitly and strongly with great
enthusiasm informed me that they would
welcome the opportunity at my request to
go into Gaza with a heavy force and
straighten our and straighten out Hamas.
If Hamas continues to act badly in
violation of their agreement with us,
the love and spirit for the Middle East
has not been seen like this in a
thousand years. It is a beautiful thing
to behold. I told these countries and
Israel not yet. There is still hope that
Hamas will do what is right. If they
will, if they do not, an end to Hamas
will be fast, furious, and brutal. I
would like to thank all of those
countries that called to help. Also, I
would like to thank the great and
powerful country of Indonesia and its
wonderful leader for all that the help
they have shown and given to the Middle
East and to the USA. to everyone. Thank
you for your attention to this matter.
President Donald J. Trump, as a writer,
I have to take my hat off to Trump cuz
he has a voice, man. Like when Trump
tweets, he knows it's a Trump tweet.
Like, it's very specific. Like,
>> yeah, there's there's no way around
that. Yeah, we'll see what ends up
happening here. But, um I I'm not super
high hopes for peace between Israel and
Gaza. The This is why culture matters so
much. And when your culture is from the
time you're a little kid, you're taught
they're the enemy. They're the reason
things are bad here. Um, we've got to
erase them from the map. I mean, that's
if that's what you grow up believing,
that's going to be really hard to turn
somebody around. So, and when your
attempt to turn them around is a whole
lot of bombs, that tends also to not
work so well. Yeah.
>> Um, but yeah, this is a when you try to
win hearts and minds, it becomes very
tough, man. Because if you try to win
hearts and minds by giving them your
value system, it will not work. So,
you've got to win hearts and minds by
allowing them to have their own value
system and making a bridge. Look, oh
god, whenever you're trying to do
something, look back in history and say,
uh, has anybody done this well before?
And if they have, figure out what
they've done, here's the problem. The
people that have done it well,
Genghaskhan, Alexander the Great, they
both had the same one-two punch, Drew.
And it is, oo buddy. That one-two punch
is I will kill every single one of you,
man, woman, and child, in the most
horrifying, brutal way that you can
imagine if you defy me even once. But by
the way, if you don't, I'll let you keep
all of your traditions. I'll even wear
some of your clothes so that you feel
recognized. Like, I want you guys to
thrive and do well. But did I mention I
will literally kill all of you? I don't
care age, sex, doesn't matter. I will
hack you to pieces in front of your
family one at a time. I will stack your
limbs like [ __ ] wood. But hey, I like
I like your outfits, you guys. So, the
same two people that at one point
basically were able to conquer the
entire world. That was their strategy.
>> So, you you said you said something
earlier. You were like, if you map Trump
as a selfish madman, whatever like that,
that's the wrong way to map him. Map him
as somebody who loves America.
>> As a madman who loves America, just be
very clear. But I mean, you've got to
have both.
>> I think Putin loves Russia.
>> Yes,
>> I think Xi loves China. I think Ma loved
China.
>> But
>> am I going to give you Mal? I'll give
you everybody else. Yes.
>> But I I do think he loved China. And I
think that the greater That's the thing
is like this whole greater good. And if
I can just protect my people, it doesn't
matter if the other people get like
taken out.
>> No, it's not even quite that. Certainly
not with Mal. the the analogy that's
just too perfect, but is so oft repeated
that people really lose sight of how
powerful it is.
>> If you want to make an omelet, you have
to break some eggs. So, if you want to
usher in the the utopia, you you have to
kill tens of millions of people. It just
is what it is. It's not that I want to,
it's that if you want to make an
omelette, you're going to have to break
some eggs.
>> And that was Mal's.
>> That's Mal.
>> Got it. Okay. So, even if you grant that
he wasn't um essentially Jeffrey Dmer on
steroids,
>> then that's the most you're going to
give him. Now, I need to read I just
found out that he wrote a book on
strategy. I knew he wrote a book on um
like essentially communist philosophies,
but I didn't know he wrote one on
strategy. So, I need to read that
because it it is clear that he was
brilliant. Like, I'm not saying this guy
was a buffoon. He very much wasn't. But
it's just it is a scale of evil that is
so hard for me to wrap my head around.
Um that I probably have done exactly
what I warned people not to do with
Trump and just pointed at all of his bad
things. Um but the outcomes from Mau are
unbelievable. Pe people just do not
understand what happened in China in
recent memory.
>> Yeah. Candace Owens, don't worry about
the gag order in the Charlie Kirk case.
I plan to violate it on the world's
behalf. The things I've discovered this
past week has are enough to burn the
house down. Yes, Charlie was betrayed by
everyone. Dun dun dun. And then she
disappears for two weeks. Um, I love
Candace. I'm team Candace cuz I just
feel like we need people to [ __ ] people
up. I just feel like we need anarchy.
>> We need people to [ __ ] people up.
>> We just we need people to keep him on
the toes. Like I need a Candace to exist
in life so that way other people can
>> You're not worried that she's going full
conspiracy.
>> Um, what is full conspiracy?
>> Let's define it. It's somebody who can
no longer they don't have an internal
map for how to judge whether something
is plausible or uh merely intriguing.
And I think that Candace is seeing
patterns where they don't exist. She's
so showing signs. I don't think she is
schizophrenic, but she's showing signs
of paranoid schizophrenia. Signs only
signs like, hey, tangential, but like
it's
>> it's accelerating. And so I don't know
if this is um she's just very good at
pattern recognition and she's not
keeping it in check. Uh if in the final
analysis we're going to be like, "Oh my
god, Candace was right about
everything." That is possible and I
don't want to remove that from the
table. But while I watch her, I'm like,
"Okay, there's a big difference for me
between somebody like Joe Rogan, who
enjoys conspiracies, but feels very
tethered to reality, and somebody like
Alex Jones, who even though he really
does find a lot of this early stuff,
it's like the number, if you watch his
channel, literally every day is World
War III and everything is a conspiracy.
Everything." Mhm.
>> And so I'm starting to now as I think
about categorizing people, Candace has
sort of marched her way out of the
journalist box that I had her in in my
mind over into the I see patterns where
patterns don't exist conspiracy theory
box where I'm like, uhoh, I worry that
she isn't using an internal rubric with
which to anchor herself to say, okay,
these things probably aren't true, and
we're going to go through a very
substantive portion of the interview
between Mario Knoff and uh Steven
Gardner where they debunk her claims one
by one and look Steven Gardner could be
wrong as well but it's it shows that she
can make a wild claim and produce
receipts but then another person can
come along with receipts that counter it
and that's why where I try to put myself
when I'm analyzing stuff and this
certainly reflects in how I invest where
it's like, okay, I have a strong belief,
but I know better than to trust myself
100%. And so, I'm literally trying to
hedge my own bets
>> to make sure that
>> I I never lose by too much. It also
means that I'm going to cap my upside.
I'm never going to win by too much. But
this is one. Let's play a scenario where
Michael Sailor, who's making an all-in
bet on
Bitcoin that I consider to be completely
irresponsible. Let's roll the tape
forward and say he becomes one of the
richest or the richest men in the world.
I'll never look at that bet and go that
was a quote unquote sensible bet. I'll
look at it and say he was right and he
is reaping all of the rewards and he is
way he has way more confidence in
himself and his ability to read the
situation than I have and he has got all
the um you know the wealth to show for
it. But I'll never think it was sensible
because there's just too many things
that could go wrong. Humans can misread
the situation. The world can change in
ways that were fundamentally
unpredictable. And so I don't think it's
a wise way to live your life. And so
there's something called the
survivorship bias where yeah, we're on
the timeline where he happened to pull
it off. But I'm also on the timeline
where my Pomeranian was loose in the
Moleholland Hills for 36 hours with
coyotes and I still managed to get her
back. But I've got to imagine if the
multiverse is real, basically every
other timeline she became coyote food.
So it would not be sensible for me to
say, "Oh, you can just let your
Pomeranian go wandering around the
Mholland Hills for 36 hours and they'll
be just fine." They won't be. So,
>> but as an entrepreneur though, there
there is a benefit to being nonsensical
sometimes. Sometimes you got to roll the
dice. Sometimes you have to go against
the grain. Sometimes you have to ask
questions that shouldn't be asked.
>> Yeah. And I would say I totally get like
again, if he pulls it off, you're going
to see me laugh, smile, clap. I'll want
to get him on the show. I'll want to
like let him take a victory lap. I'm not
going to be throwing stones at him. I'm
just saying I it's not a sensible thing
to do. Now, you'd have to get me to
define sensible and that's all my
beliefs and all my value system and all
of that.
>> Um, so you've got to take that with a
grain of salt. But anyway, I've got that
internal metric by which I judge things
and so I make my decisions based on
that. It feels like Candace has lost
that. She doesn't or maybe never had,
but she doesn't have anything that she
comes back to and says like I say, I
know better than to trust myself 100%.
Just blanket. So, I think I have all the
receipts. I still don't trust myself
100%. She trusts herself a thousand%.
And I cannot figure out how life has
taught anybody that that's the right
thing to judge things by.
>> Just with with Alex Jones, like yes,
there's the Alex Jones is right meme,
but Sandy Hook got all 1.5 billion and
they're gonna take the name right to his
studio. like he still has to kind of
deal with him being wrong being wrong
big in that scenario. So, by no means if
Candace is wrong on all this, I
definitely she deserves her day in
court, whatever. If she gets sued, she
deserves a payout. Like, she has to walk
the plank if that's what really falls
out.
I am from the the nil of like Marishia
said it like I'm a the government lies
to us. The CIA is in is destabilizing
institutions all around the world. Um,
there are so many times where like a
corporation has enlisted the CIA to
destabilize something and we'll give you
a kick back to the government. Everybody
gets paid. So to me, like there's so
much political goodwill that came from
Charlie Kirk's death. There's so much
political benefits that happened from
it. Even if it's 1% of me, I do have a
certain level of suspicion to how clean
it was. Again, we read the text messages
live. Hey, my lover who is also a trans
furry who lives down the street. like
I'm sorry my dad who you know was a
Trump suppor like there's certain things
that just doesn't necessarily pass the
sniff test for me.
>> Now they're going to cover that in the
video. He's got a very plausible
argument for what that could be and not
be tied to the CIA.
>> As far as the text messages go, I have
mixed feelings about those because I
believe that they're real, but I think
they also could have been pre-planned in
order to make Lance Twig look innocent.
Oh, I had no idea that my lover was
going to go kill this guy. you know,
like I'm just as shocked as the rest of
the world, right? So, I believe they're
real. And the forensic expert I talked
to, he said, "Stephen, most people don't
realize this, but Tyler Robinson's cell
phone is going to be the second most
important piece of evidence next to the
gun itself." And I was like, "Really?"
And he said, "They're going to be able
to track whether he went on the week
before. They're going to track every
movement."
>> One thing you and I were both like, "Yo,
there is something fishy here." Like,
nobody writes like this. But if you're
trying to like if you've already talked
about it, you know that your boyfriend
knows exactly
what your plans were, but you need a
way, you know, they're going to look
through your phone and you need a way to
clear them. Uh then you might like
overstate everything just to make sure
that there's no possible lack of
clarity. And so that's where you get
sort of the ridiculous like it's
extremely detailed saying things that
like obviously that person would know
you're t