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Mom Donnie is now the mayor of New York.
I guess they're going to have to learn
once again how economies work. A UPS
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>> All right, we got to talk about it. If
you're a Democrat, you're on top of the
moon today. They have
>> I don't know that that's true. Are
you're going to talk about mom?
>> Yeah, we're start we're starting with
mom Donnie, but they the government uh
the governor of Virginia is now a
Democrat. The governor of New Jersey is
now a Democrat. Prop 50 in California
passed and of course Mom Donnie won NYC.
So, it was a blue wave that kind of
happened. Um I have his uh V a portion
of his victory speech up here. What are
your initial thoughts though of mom
Donnie taking the W?
>> So I'm a little bit surprised that it it
made me feel some type of way. So I
don't usually navigate life by a whole
lot of feelings. It's like where are we
trying to end up?
>> Uh so that caused me to pause. I don't
trust my emotions. So um but I felt very
negative. I felt very sad for uh the
direction of America.
I do think that mom Donnie in New York
is indicative of something larger
happening. And so if I feel about mom
Donnie the same way that I feel about
Gary's economics where it's like you've
got the your finger on the right problem
and the answer is so catastrophic and
will accelerate this. It's like how I
felt when Steve Jobs was like uh I have
pancreatic cancer and so I'm going to do
just like apple juice. And it's like bro
that that is going to make things worse.
You're feeding a tumor which survives on
carbohydrates. You're feeding it a
steady diet of guess what?
Carbohydrates.
>> So, uh it it's one of those where when
you don't understand the fundamental
cause and effect of things, you can make
the most like egregious obvious own
goals.
And that's what we're about to see. So,
uh the great irony of all this is I want
the same outcome they purport to want.
Now, I think that M Donnie is only
understandable when you think of him as
somebody who despises the wealthy, not
as somebody who actually wants to help
the poor. Once you think of him that
way, then things are going to make
sense. You understand how we could look
at the world and see just failure after
failure after failure of these policies
uh and still want to do it. But they
really do punish the rich as well. Uh so
it beats everybody up and that is wild
to me. And dude, sometimes really when
I'm writing the deep dives, I think
about you and I'm like, I never needed
to be aware of all this stuff, but Drew
just wouldn't let it go. He had to have
me every week write these deep dives and
they're they are phenomenal for the
channel. But it is uh boy oh boy are
they hard because as you get into the
the meat and potatoes of the economy and
how it works. So, first of all, I've
said this many times, but uh as the
island of your knowledge grows, so grows
the shore of your ignorance. So, you
come into contact with more and more
things that you don't know. And so, you
begin realizing, wow, like I really
thought I understood this stuff. And
then you start encountering more. And
you realize there's a whole lot more
complexity to this. But so far, none of
the complexity that I've encountered
makes me go, "Oh, I was fundamentally
wrong about something." You just see how
it like spreads even farther and farther
and farther. Uh, and so it just so
happened, I mean, none of this is an
accident. We obviously zone in on the
things that are really um meaningful in
culture at the moment, but I was writing
about basically the markets are about to
crash
>> like two days before the market crashes.
[laughter]
So, um, it seeing all of that, seeing
all the interconnectedness, seeing that
what everybody should be focused on is
getting a thriving middle class and then
watching us do all the things that like
literally mechanistically
from a physics perspective, you just go,
"Oh, the things that are being pushed by
mom Donnie are the exact opposite of
things that could even possibly work." M
>> and that is there's something about the
Cassandra complex of knowing the future
but no one will listen to you that is
devastating. So it's my favorite Greek
myth. I'm convinced it was a parent
trying you know somebody writing it was
trying to explain to parents what it's
like
>> and basically you've lived through it so
you know what the future's going to be
and so you try to explain to the other
person this is going to be the future.
So the the actual myth goes like this.
Chick has an affair with a god. God's
never like that. So they punish her and
they say you're going to know the future
but no one will believe you. And so she
runs around trying to tell everybody if
you do that this terrible thing is going
to happen. They won't believe her. So
they still do the thing and the terrible
thing happens. And she knew it was going
to come. And the curse is that people
will not listen. That is exactly how I
feel about New York. And I'm sure every
parent feels that way about their kid
knowing, hey, like I've done those
things and it's absolutely grueling to
your heart and that's going to haunt you
for 20 years and you're going to need
therapy around that one. you still can't
stop them from doing it. That's what
this economic moment feels like is there
are knowable things that are making our
economy have the um outcomes that it's
having which are as terrible as people
are saying. They are horrible for the
poor and working class just absolutely
god awful. They are wonderful for the
wealthy in the short term because
eventually you actually get murdered. So
it's like if you can just get people to
see all of that then we could go okay
like what are the actual things that
will lead to the outcomes that we want a
thriving middle class a place where
people can get rich they can pull ahead
of everybody else but it's not by such a
grotesque margin that the government and
the way that you stop that by the way is
by making sure that the government isn't
getting involved in the financial
markets because you need wealthy people
to get wiped out. So like if you make a
series of bad decisions, you have to be
able to fail. And we've removed that.
And so and then the other thing is that
we steal from everybody. Nobody likes to
call tax theft, but it's theft.
>> And so when you think of inflation as
the ultimate, it it is both theft and
it's secretive.
>> Uh and they they take money from
everybody. And because of the nature of
economies, the only people that benefit
from inflation are the people that own
assets. Only 10% of Americans own
assets. I shudder to think what
percentage of the 10% own the vast
majority of the assets. So call it
something like three 1 to 3% of
Americans like just get wealthy in an
unhinged way. And that is what's
creating our problems mechanistically.
But when you start voting for Mum
Donnie, you're saying, I just need
things that feel right. I don't need
things that could actually yield a good
outcome.
Yeah, it's it's one of those things
though where I understand
theoretically why New York is headed for
disaster. I understand what's supposed
to happen. I understand all the whiles
and the whispers in the dark about um
the bad things that is associated with
socialism.
>> Yep.
>> However, New York has made its decision.
So, just how as a father with a daughter
who I want her to do X and she always
tells me that she's going to do Y
instead,
>> I can't just say, "All right, well, go
figure it out yourself and kick her out
the house." I have to figure out, "Okay,
>> you're doing the thing that I don't want
you to do. How can I best help her
through this situation?" So, now that we
woke up this next morning, he's elected.
He's in there. What can we do or what
can we learn from this moment that we
can actually utilize to kind of help the
young people? How can we kind of
reinvigorate the economy in this way?
Cuz I get it. If it was up to us, we
would stop money printing. We would
balance a budget that's priority one and
priority two. But just like similarly to
the right and the left both spend money.
People are just choosing the right cuz
they're spending less money. I feel like
in this moment some people on the left
are choosing mom dining because at least
if we're going to spend money, at least
give me some free [ __ ] in the process of
the money spending. And I think that's
their kind of rationale from there. So
um do you think that there is a way that
we can kind of mitigate some of these uh
quote unquote catastrophes that will
come with his election? Is there ways
that we can kind of isolate the rest of
the US from it being kind of completely
off the rails? What are some ways we can
kind of look at it now that the damage
is done?
>> So, one, the the only thing that you can
count on at this point is the structure
of New York government. So, some of the
things he wants to do, he just won't be
able to do because the mayor doesn't
have the power to do that. So, um
there'll be many things like that. Yeah.
That things just styy his agenda. And so
that's the joy of the gridlock of a
democratic system is no one person can
really like do too much damage. The
problem is they put in systems in place
and those systems over time do
catastrophic damage.
>> So rent controls back in the 70s and 80s
were just absolutely devastating to the
Bronx specifically. Uh, and so if
anybody can conjure up those images of
the burned out Bronx and all of that,
that was from the kinds of policies that
Mom Donnie wants to put in place, that's
the great irony is not only has this
been tried before all around the world,
it's been tried in the five burrows
>> uh and just led to disaster and then you
should ask how did they unwind it?
>> Hey, guess what? They unwind it by
deregulating in capitalism. So, it's
like we're we're going to do the loop
again. Uh but other ways to mitigate it
are basically none. So part of the
reason I did not have children was I
understood that part of the reason I
became who I became was my parents
couldn't really help me once I graduated
from college. My dad had already spent a
ton of money to put me through college.
Um I had taken on a ton of debt. My mom
was not in a financial position to help
me. My parents divorced literally three
weeks after I left for college. Uh, so
my mom was financially destitute,
working two jobs, just nightmare
scenario. Um, my dad had already put
himself through enough to try to get me
through college, and shout out to him.
>> Uh, so they I I from the day I graduated
never received another dollar from my
parents.
>> And that meant I had to figure it out
and I had to get hurt and I had to
sometimes be in a position where I was
like, "Oh, wow. I actually can't pay all
my bills this month." And so you go,
"All right, I'm going to get some final
notices from these guys and I'll pay
these guys this month and then vice
versa." And you do that for a while. Uh,
so
I didn't want to I didn't think I could
trust myself to see my kids suffer. And
so I didn't that was part of my calculus
around not having kids was I would make
them soft.
>> And so I was like, I don't want to do
that. And I also don't want to watch
them suffer. So New York has to suffer.
That is the thing that will make it
tough is that they'll go oh these really
didn't work or by hey listen when I say
that [clears throat]
my my money is invested in a way that
will show you I believe what I say
>> so I think that's going to be a good
litmus test for a lot of people but um I
think that these policies are guaranteed
to fail. Um, so at this point it's like,
well, you just have to step back. Like
you said, they've made their decision.
See what happens. Let them go through
it. The thing that I want to do is I
want to plant flags and I want to say
here are the things that I see coming. I
don't expect people to listen or to
vote, but over time you do earn
credibility.
>> And also uh a big thing for me is I need
to say what I think is going to happen
so I can find out how close to mapping
the truth I have been. Um, that helps me
sharpen my own thinking. So, um, crime
is going to go up. That's for sure.
>> All the things that he's trying to make
free, they will go down in quality. Um,
they're going to say that no matter what
happens, that they've done the right
thing and that the bad outcomes are due
to something exogenous. None of them are
going to go, "Ah, these are just bad
policies." None of them. So until we get
the middle class thriving again, um
effectively nothing is going to change
at the societal level. New York though
will become increasingly violent,
increasingly dirty, increasingly seedy.
Again, we we've already played this
movie. I was in New York in the 80s. I
know what it looked like up close and it
was wild. And people will get sick of
it. They will, the people living there,
and they will finally plug their nose
and vote for somebody that promises law
and order. That will be the start of it.
People that are obsessed with law and
order tend to be right-leaning.
Right-leaning people tend to be uh more
focused on sovereignty. So, they're
going to get back to traditional
economic policies, not necessarily
because they understand the economy, uh
but because they lean towards
sovereignty. And so, that'll be the
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>> Um, okay. We had our conspiracy theory
hats on on Friday. I want to put I want
to put my my optimism hat on right now.
Let's go.
>> I found out went through the Twitter
rabbit hole. Um, Dragon Flu Dragon uh
Dragonfly Jones, one like a Twitter
commentator I follow who does basketball
commentary. Got into it over Mom Donnie
with like a Twitter bot and I found out
through him Richmond um passed free
buses during the pandemic. So, for the
last 5 years they've been free buses.
There has been a noticeable increase in
crime. There has been a notice a
noticeable increase in attacks, violent
attacks. No Ukraine immigrants getting
uh shaved or anything like that there.
Well, how they are paying for it is that
the government funding that they receive
from federal funds, they've reallocated
to make it free for the bus system. Now,
of course, there's still other, you
know, you don't get free trains and all
these other things. You still pay for
those, but at least specifically for the
buses, they were able to sustain free
buses through the subsidies that they
receive.
>> There literally isn't a thing you can't
make free.
>> You make anything free.
>> Yeah. But,
>> however, you're only making it free for
the people who use it. You're not making
it actually free because people don't
work for free. So if people understand
>> the spending is coming from a different
bucket. So if New York is just going to
say, "Hey, listen, the things that Mom
Donnie wants to make free or cheap,
we're going to pull resources from
everywhere else and we're going to
reallocate them to that." Like if Mom
Donnie were like, "Listen, I'm about
balancing the budget. This is about
fiscal responsibility. I understand
capital flight, so I understand that I
can't just keep taking and taking and
taking from the wealthy because they
will leave." Um, so this is all a
balancing act. And if he were appealing
to um the like patriotism or whatever of
Americans, this is something that we've
done in times usually of war, but like
if he were able to rally people around,
hey, listen guys, this is an economic
war. I think we can all agree that the
middle class and the working class, they
are suffering the most. And he could lay
out the cause and effect of how the
economy works. And he could say,
"Listen, rule number one, balance the
budget. Rule number two, we've got to
help bring back a thriving middle class.
We've got to put power from a
negotiating perspective back in the
hands of the working class. We've got to
make sure that we're bringing industry
back so that people have jobs. Like then
as a wealthy person, you might be like,
"Yo, this guy really gets it. Like,
okay, I'm here for this. Like, I want to
be a part of this." And if that guy were
engaging with the business community in
a non-corrupt way because I think that
they're they're like when I see mom
Donnie posing with Alex Soros of all
[ __ ] people, I'm just like, here we
go again. Like this is going to be a fun
loop. In fact, literally I mentioned
George Soros in uh the upcoming deep
dive that I wrote. So get to part four.
As always, I'm trying to tell people
this is a thing that I think that you
should do moving into the future. And I
was like, please don't try to day trade
against people like George Soros because
they understand that when the economy is
left to its own devices, uh, that it can
be very unpredictable. So they don't
leave it to its own devices. They spend
money on NOS's. They have u deals with
like DAS. Like they structure society in
the way that they want. they will go
into different countries and make sure
that things play out in a way that's
good for their portfolio. And it's like,
guys, you hate the billionaire class for
a reason. Now, if that reason is just
vibes, that's [ __ ] If the reason is
uh when people meddle in international
affairs, not only does it create
political problems, that can be horrible
for the people in that country, but
they're doing it because they're trying
to protect their portfolio. Now, you
can't paint anybody with a blanket
brush, but bro, that's going to get you
80 85% of the examples. George Soros
broke the back of the British pound. He
literally looked at the pound and was
like, "These guys are making a mistake."
Hey, Secretary Bessant, not Secretary at
the time, but like, let's roll in. Let's
[ __ ] with these guys. They have made a
mistake. They've made it clear like
where the support has to be. I know that
they're going to just try to buy bye bye
bye, but they don't have his pockets as
deep as I do. So, I'm going to buy even
deeper. Okay, that's the guy, the son of
anyway.
>> Yeah,
>> that mom Donnie is arms around. So,
billionaires shouldn't exist. Here I am
with one of the most politically active
internationally billionaires on Yeah.
son of on planet, but he's got all the
money now. So, Soros is toast. So if you
hear like George Soros at this point
it's Alex.
>> So I don't know if you think that's like
a get out of jail free card.
>> No, but to your point of the kids are
always soft like Alex isn't breaking the
back of the British pound. I think Alex
>> he may not know how to do it but he he
is
>> I I would need to do a much deeper dive
to put forward any very concrete things.
But I assume that he's carrying on his
father's legacy. If nothing else, he is
still out there swaying markets. I hate
it when Elon does it. I hate it when the
Soroses do it. So that one to me I am an
equal opportunity. It is a problem when
people put money in politics like that
and try to sway these markets like that.
>> Uh so anyway,
>> that that is the nature of what Manny is
going to be trying to do. So
>> he isn't doing what I wish he were,
which is getting the business community
together, balancing the budget, saying
we're going to make these things more
affordable by putting government dollars
because that's what the people want. And
as long as we're balancing the budget,
we know these other things are going to
have to give. Great. No problem. Uh
that's not how this is going to play
out. First of all, he seems completely I
think if you map him again as somebody
who wants to see the wealthy punished,
he'll make a lot more sense. He does not
care if the wealthy flee. He does not
care. He's not paying attention to
capital flight. Dude, if you go back to
his 2020 tweets, they are so unhinged.
And so he's asking us to believe, no,
no, no, that's not me anymore. Um,
>> we'll see. Like there's no doubt if you
look at my tweets going backwards that
there are going to be some things I'll
be like, "Listen, I changed my mind
about that." Like I looked at it
further, but I'll be able to map out for
you the cause and effect that led me
away from those positions. Um, he's not
going to be able to do that because he
he is doing whatever is politically
expedient. Yeah.
>> Is my mapping.
>> I definitely get the frustration. And I
get what you're saying that we have to
be very careful about the billionaire
class and how who Mum Donnie is buddy
buddy with. And while George Soros now I
feel like is like the Republican
candyman that when people whisper his
name they think like a NGO is going to
pop up and some trans person is going to
jump out.
>> It is actually true. I I feel like
though the game is the game because if
we could look at Rupert Murdoch um John
Stewart just did a talk with the New
Yorker where he talks about everybody
thinks the Republican party in MAGA
started with Trump but it started 10
years ago when Rubert Murdoch bought all
of AM radio stations that nobody was
listening to that only 50 year olds and
older were listening to he bought
Sinclair uh broadcasting that was the
synchronized local news network that was
all saying the same thing. So they've
been setting these conservative seeds
for the a decade ago you know I mean
that's how they were able to get support
for the weapons of mass destruction.
It's this is a political game. This is a
map. And we all we're realizing that
everybody's grabbing for power in their
way. The left might be doing it through
NOS's. The right is doing it through
conservative media, but everybody's just
trying to grab power.
>> I think what we should really be focused
on now, and VC has a great tweet that um
I kind of want to bring in to to point
this out. We thought Trump has been
saying the economy is booming,
everybody's happy, the markets is
flying, and all these things are
happening. The market was a blood bath
yesterday. a bunch of Democrats won. I
know that Republicans still have control
of the office, still have control of the
executive office, they still have
control of the Senate, still have
control of the House. But that is
awakening to say, wait, the midterms
aren't a shoe. And wait, the the economy
isn't booming for everybody, there are
people that are still hurting. And
whether or not we can point to the
budget, whether or not we can point to
communism, whether or not we can point
to socialism, the voters are saying,
"Your your fear tactics aren't working.
I still want change. I'm voting for
something different cuz status quo isn't
working for me." Um, let's jump into
this video from Vake where he kind of
breaks down what the um what the
Conservative party should be paying
attention to after this election
victory.
>> We got our asses handed to us in New
Jersey, Virginia, and New York City.
Democrats swept all three. There's two
key lessons for Republicans. Listen
carefully. Number one, our side needs to
focus on affordability. Make the
American dream affordable. Bring down
costs. electric costs, grocery costs,
health care costs, and housing costs,
and lay out how we're going to do it.
And number two, cut out the identity
politics. It doesn't suit Republicans.
It's not for us. That's the woke left's
game, not ours. We don't care about the
color of your skin or your religion. We
care about the content of your
character. That's who we are.
>> So, with that coming, do you think that
this will be a wakeup call for the
Republican party, especially with the
midterms happening uh next November?
>> No. they they know that they're in a
political game. They will certainly
understand the history. It's like only
three times does the midterms not flip
things. So, it's like
that that isn't the game. So, keep in
mind, I want to be very clear. I'm not
Republican.
>> So, I look at the Republican party and I
say, "These guys are god awful."
>> And the bad news is the only people that
are worse are the Democrats. So, you
just have to look at how much money they
want to spend. And you've got the
Republicans that passed the catastrophic
big beautiful bill and then the
Democrats were like, "Hold my beer. We
want to add more to that." It It's so
wild.
>> So, they're all irresponsible. They are
all doing something that is going to
continue to hurt people. They are
caught. So, uh, you're in a simulation,
Drew, and and I'm almost defiantly am
deciding to think like that, which I
need to be careful of. But, um, you're
living in a simulation. You've been
programmed to act this way. And watching
this play out, like once you understand
the code that's running in all of our
minds, I am not immune to this at all. I
am as stuck in all of this as everybody
else. I'm having as much of a biological
experience as anybody else. Uh but
Jesus,
like we just respond in the most obvious
ways to these things. And so politicians
only make sense when you think of them
as somebody who will do anything, say
anything to get elected and to get
reelected.
>> All they are trying to do is maintain
power. So my only hope is that because
we live in a moment where we have high
velocity of information that we are able
to um lay everything bare, make
everything as transparent as possible,
not spill into conspiracy brain, but
really get people to see enough of the
picture that they can start putting
things together from a cause and effect
perspective. So um pick an area. For me,
it's been economics. You pick an area
and you just start mapping out how does
this happen from a cause and effect
perspective because if we are in a
simulation even if we're not God laid
out rules but the world clearly is built
on top of rules which is why when people
say history repeats all they're saying
is that there's a set of rules that
everything obeys economies the way
politicians act the way humans respond
to politicians and money and power and
fear and all that we respond in a very
narrow banded way. And so once you
understand that it's like oh yeah then
as circumstances arise that are familiar
to something that's happened in the past
we will respond in familiar ways. They
we do not become perfectly predictable
at not at least at the level of data
that a human mind can process and
retain. But boy oh boy are we
predictable. So that's why when you look
at uh whether it's okay the trains
worked in Richmond. Oh great let me
explain how that works. Like you can
point your money at whatever you want,
but what you can't do is deficit spend.
And so what I want people to understand
is socialist policies don't work because
they are trying to make everything free.
Zoran Mamani in 2020 uh tweeted the
communist manifesto from each according
to their need to each or from each
according to their ability to each
according to their need or vice versa.
You get the idea.
>> And so he tweeted that out. That's not
somebody who's like, "Oh, look at this
terrible idea." Uh, but it is a terrible
idea because it is as if humans are
fictional characters. It's like when
economists think of humans as a
perfectly rational being and that you
can map all economic movements based on
humans being rational beings that will
always do the thing that uh is the
obvious like financial incentive and
then they don't and they completely
surprise you. Mhm.
>> Uh so
once you understand that the very thing
that capitalism works on top of which
people may love or hate I don't care it
is how humans work the very thing that
makes capitalism work. Again China used
capitalism to rise out of poverty. Uh
every time you want to cure a socialist
system you give it capitalism. So the
thing that that rides on top of is man's
inherent impulse to do what is self-
serving.
>> And the second you take away
man's desire to do what is self- serving
uh it all breaks. And so that's why
resentment around people who are good
like they do what is self- serving and
they're very good at it. When you resent
that person, you become completely
unhinged and and let's call it spade a
spade. The policies force you to use
guns. So, I know people get weird about
when I give real historical examples
about how far that goes, but you need
only ask
>> uh what if Drew, your uh 27year-old
daughter was not living life the way you
wanted her to, but you have to force her
to because everybody has to do what you
say or the system falls apart. So, what
do you do? you eventually get guns out
and eventually if that person just
really won't get into line, you lock
them up or you kill them. Mao said
plainly um because there was a person
way back in China's history that was
infamous for having buried alive a bunch
of people that were disagreeing with
him.
>> And he jokingly said, "Oh, we've
done that guy but a hundred times more."
In in honesty, it's 100,000 times more.
But
>> like that's where people go. They
realize
>> or they form a mental frame of reference
that says I know best. When you disagree
with me, you're going to break society.
And so I will go all the way to killing
you if that's what I have to do to get
the system working in the way that I
want it to work. But because humans
disagree, humans are intrinsically
selfish. Everybody has a different frame
of reference. So, everybody's pulling in
different directions. Um, you run into a
problem.
>> You You run into a problem that requires
violence.
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>> All right, let's jump over to UPS flight
2976.
Um, for those that don't know, this was
a uh cargo flight with three people on
board that had a crazy explosion. It
crashed into a nearby petroleum factory
that just rocked. Is that what it hit?
>> That's why that's where all the fire
came from.
>> Out in Louisville, we have the video.
Oh, here.
>> Um,
>> as you could tell, this thing looks like
the tropic fire, the tropic thunder like
fire scene. Just like a row of fire.
God.
>> Um, so much.
>> There are some other angles where you
can actually see the plane.
>> Um,
>> that is brutal. Do was it on takeoff? It
looked like it was on takeoff.
>> Yeah, the engine was on fire as it was
before even got off the plane. Um, it
looks like it's the left engine off the
ground. Yeah.
>> And then this is the one that you seen
where it's actually on the ground
>> like even as it's trying to lift the
fire kind of started early.
>> Oh my god.
>> So, three people dead on the uh plane,
another 11 injured, but
>> authorities
when you keep going. So, we've got even
more angles. There's one from the inside
of a truck and you just you see the
plane like break apart and tumble and oh
my god like I can't imagine, dude. I
can't imagine. Listen, we all die some
way, but like oh that'd be one of the
craziest ways to go.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh god, look at that.
>> Sheesh. Sheesh.
>> That's so wild. There's other ones. It
might even be this one later. Maybe the
other. Anyway, uh there's one that shows
like an overhead view and you just see
that line just a fire. It looks like
it's going through like a industrial
area.
>> It's like, oh man,
>> that is rough. But there were no other
fatalities, huh? Other than the people
on the plane.
>> Yeah, they said that number is going to
grow though cuz everything it had, like
you said, a path of destruction. So that
was early reports as of this.
>> Looking at that, I was like, man, you
might have dozens of people. So if it's
only 11 like
>> that is thank god that is terrifying.
>> Um in related news um
>> in related to plane crashes [laughter]
>> Secretary Duffy's uh due to the uh
government shutdown they are considering
now shut set shutting down certain
American airlines uh airspaces because
of the lack of air traffic controllers.
For those that don't know air traffic
controllers haven't been paid. TSA
hasn't been paid going on 35 days now.
And this is the record as of today.
>> Oh it is it is right. have broken the
record.
>> We have broken the record from Trump's
last one, so he won up himself.
>> That's crazy.
>> Um, so then, yeah, this is Secretary
Duffy uh speaking about it.
>> One payment, 80 to 90% of one payment.
They missed the second paycheck. Uh, on
Thursday, they get a email payub that'll
show what their next payment is going to
be. So, this Thursday, they'll get a an
email that shows that their payub is a
big fat zero. Um, many of the
controllers said,
>> uh, a lot of us can navigate missing one
paycheck. Not everybody, but a lot of us
can. None of us can manage missing two
paychecks. So, if if you bring us to a
week from today, Democrats, you will see
mass chaos. You will see um mass flight
delays, you'll see mass cancellations,
and you may may see us close certain
parts of the airspace because we just
cannot manage it because we don't have
the air traffic control.
>> Yeah. And then in in related news,
Houston TSA has literally walked off the
job, leaving thousand, it looks like
hundreds, maybe thousands of travelers
just stranded.
>> Yeah. And this is all happening while
the three of us are here in Florida.
[laughter] I was like, "Oh, this will be
fun."
>> Perfect timing. Perfect timing. Um, we
talked um before we started rolling that
I had a delay on Sunday because LAX had
to restrict airspace because they only
had so much uh air traffic controllers.
So our flight was pushed back an hour to
allow other traffic I guess to coalesce.
So
>> it it seems like it's only getting
worse. Uh how do you feel about us
breaking the record for government
shutdown?
>> Uh this is horrific. So there are two
things going on right now. So one is
just we have a world that we expect to
work a certain way. The government has
made certain promises. You need to make
good on those promises.
>> So there are things that I wish we had
never agreed to fund, but if you've
agreed to fund it, then you've got to
fund it. And if you're going to unwind
that, you need to do it slowly. You
can't just furlow god knows how many
people and then be like, "Oh, and by the
way, some of you were never getting
paid. We're just ending your job." Uh
that is a very rough way to go about it.
So, in the beginning when they were
doing it and they were like offering
people exit packages and all that, I was
like, "Yeah, that that's cool. I'm here
for that." Uh you reduce the strain on
the economy first of all, like even if
you're not going to look at it, just the
the human cost of it all, uh you want to
see that done as elegantly as possible.
And I'm still I don't know who I'm mad
at exactly, but I'm mad at the way that
America reacted to Doge. I really, God,
what do I feel? Um, despair,
hopelessness, uh, just that one really
wound me up. It's like people had
knee-jerk reactions because it was Elon,
because it was people saying they were
going to cut the budget. People just
went off their rocker and they should
have been like, "Yes, please." Like even
if this is just a nod to now getting
into fiscal responsibility like I I want
to remind everybody the word fiscal
means government government spending
fiscal responsibility is government
spending responsibly. We've used fiscal
now so loosely just to mean basically
monetary that people don't understand
fiscal policy is government spending.
Government spending is so unhinged. So
when I say fiscal policy is the problem,
that's what's driving this.
>> Once you understand that that the
government deficit spends and the
government covers bailouts and the
government um inflates the currency, you
realize, oh, we have a spending problem.
So you need to reduce spending. So
anyway, seeing people react like that to
Doge just really wound me up because
it's going to make their lives worse.
They're literally it's like uh when
you're training to be a lifeguard, one
of the first things they teach you is a
drowning person will drown you. They
don't have a single qualm with that.
They are just trying to get oxygen. So
as you get closer, like they'll push you
under, they'll hold you down. So you
have to be if they're not calm, you have
to disengage.
>> And I always remember thinking, "Oo,
that's rough." Like you go out there,
they're panicking, and you just got to
be like, "Sorry, not going down with
you." Uh but that really is the reality.
And so that's what that felt like was
these are drowning people and as we get
closer to try to help they just start
throwing punches, pulling us under. It's
like oh my god like come on.
>> So uh hated that. So that's the second
part of this is that we have it's like
40% of fact check me on this please. I
believe 40% of Americans work for the
government. Now
>> you can't do that. You can't do that.
It's either 40% of GDP or 40% of people
buy per capita. You absolutely cannot do
that hard pass out. It's a sign of
sickness. Like there's call it I don't
know 7% is reasonable. 40% is you can't
do that.
>> I see a much lower percentage.
>> What percent?
>> I see federal government is 1.9%.
>> No way.
>> The public sector is 13.4 according to
this is out of as of 2022. I'll have to
look this up if it's GDP, but there was
some number that either was number of
people that work for the government or
GDP. That was so
>> horrifying. Anyway, off the maybe I'm
just wrong, that's always possible. Off
the
>> GDP is 23% of government spend.
>> Okay, that's zero just for the record.
So, government work should not count for
GDP. So, that gives you an idea of how
little we actually grew.
>> I wish I had a better like answer for
this government shutdown. And I wish I
had something more like interesting to
talk about, but like at some point in
time, I don't know where that line is.
Have you ever been in like a tough
negotiation maybe at work where it's
kind of like the standoff where it's
like I'm I'm hurting other people by
doing this. I need to cave. Like how do
you balance that pressure from I need to
do this so that way my team can get this
win that long-term I think would
benefits the most amount of Americans
versus the current pain is too much to
handle. um you can map out ahead of
time, these are the things that I'm
fighting for that are an absolute must
that if I don't get those, I'm willing
to. And then you map out like how far
you would go and then you map out what
your breaking point is.
>> Uh you should go into a negotiation
knowing all of those things. Now,
there's always going to be surprises and
things you didn't expect or an outcome
that maybe you didn't think of ahead of
time, all that. For sure, for sure, for
sure. But you should have that kind of
stuff mapped out. I think the thing that
would really surprise maybe not our
community because I do feel like we
collect a pretty bright group of engaged
people, but the average person I think
would be very surprised to see the gap
between the way politicians present
themselves and the way they really are.
>> And so the really are the behind the
scenes, all the negotiations, that kind
of stuff are yeah, they'll neither side
cares if the American people are
suffering. Both of them will say that's
all they care about. The reality is they
want to get reelected. And so they've
got a position they've got a spin. Now I
think they also both have agendas that
they are trying to push through. Like if
you're going to play the game, play the
game. And so um all of the rockstar
people are going to make a lot of noise
around what they're trying to do. They
won't all pass bills, but they'll all
make a lot of noise. The rock stars.
>> So the rock stars get it. I've got to
show leadership. I've got to say we
should be doing this thing. This is the
part that mom Donnie is very good at. is
he's able to articulate the outcome that
he wants. He is [ __ ] and therefore
does not understand how he's actually
going to get you there, but he at least
can say like, "Oh, this I'm going to get
you free stuff. Okay, great."
>> Um, so he can make a lot of noise. He
can go up. He can argue. He's good at
debate and that he knows how to
obfuscate. People will say that he's a
weak debater from the perspective of
he's not going to be able to argue cause
and effect because that's not what he's
about. Once you understand that's not
what he's about and that he understands
some
it's better to think of him as an
entertainer who is very good at
emotionally moving people. And his um
rap genre now is politics. And so you've
got gangster rappers, you've got pop
rappers like Will Smith, and you've got
political rappers like Mum Donnie. And
their game is to go out and say things
that make people feel a certain way and
that's that. He's very good at that.
Very talented. And this is where I think
people make a mistake. Obviously, when I
say he's [ __ ] I mean that tongue
and cheek. He is quite smart. Um, so
that is uh you want to make sure that
you understand how your opponent really
is that you can really think through
this. But anyway, people would be very
surprised to see that their politicians
are just wildly different creatures um
when they're not having to pose for the
populace.
>> Do you think that I don't know if this
is the populist moment uh agenda or not,
but do you think the spreadsheet
politician can be elected? Is there is
that possible? Because I feel like the
best politicians that I can remember
over the last 20 years have always been
Vibes. The actor Ronald Re to Obama to
even Trump, he's an entertainer. He was
a reality
>> is always going to be a part of it for
sure. Um
chemistry is a big deal. And so having
chemistry with the country, having
chemistry in um backroom deals, all of
that stuff goes a long long way. Uh,
watching the All-In podcast deal with
Trump was really fascinating because
even Jason Calacanis, you could see was
struggling. He found Trump charming, but
he didn't want to say that I found Trump
charming.
>> So, it was um fun to see that. But you
that's just how politicians are like
when you sit down with them. Um, if
they're just pure spreadsheet and I'm
going to guess I don't know Thomas
Massie well at all, but given that he
wears the debt pin, I'm going to guess
this is him that he's like the
spreadsheet guy. And so when you're with
them, it's probably a little spectrumy.
It there isn't the charm and charisma
that you're going to get with an AOC.
Like, did you see AOC? First of all,
super attractive. Second, she's got her
hair like quafted over to the side and
she's like,
>> I've got some tea for you, right? And
she spills the gossip. And I was like,
I'm entertained right now.
>> I'm entertained.
>> There there is something even though I
think her policies are murderous. Uh she
is engaging. So, it's like eh. Anyway,
the point that I'm trying to make with
all of those um decorations is that
there's there's a wild difference
between what they're going to be like um
privately, the way they think about the
world, which would disgust people, the
way that they'll use people as pawns,
manipulate them, move them around the
chessboard, all of that. Uh and the way
that they present themselves. I think
about this a lot as a CEO. So, um, no
one will believe anything you say now
because you're on camera and you're
sitting next to me, but I know this to
be true. So, if somebody gets sick, for
instance, I really do want them to rest.
And so, even though it slows the company
down or whatever, like one, it's what I
want to do and I don't want to treat
anybody on my team differently than I
would want to be treated. So, I'm going
to extend to people the thing I want
extended to me. So, uh, if somebody's
sick, I'm going to say, "Hey, let me
know how I can help." I'd go get
somebody. Um, or if I'm being really
honest, I would send somebody to go get
you chicken broth, uh, if that's what
you needed. Um, I want you to sleep in
and get your rest. And so, for me, my
like ultimate game is I want to earn my
own respect. And so, a huge part of
earning my own respect is being who I am
outward facing and inward facing. Now,
listen, I talk to my wife in a way that
I would never talk if I were on camera.
So, don't think that I don't have gears.
I definitely have gears, but in terms of
my value system and what I believe and
don't believe across the world, it's
very consistent. And so people would be
like, "Oh, wow." Like he um he's much
more playful when he's with his wife.
Like I'm the the number of times I will
be silly on camera will be very low
compared to how often I'm silly in real
life. Uh because my wife has rewarded me
to no end because she loves that side of
my personality. So anyway, uh
politicians are not like that. Let's go
to that AOC clip that you brought up
about the tea. So, for those that don't
know, Marjorie Taylor Green has been
pivoting recently about the government
shutdown. She was on the view. She's
been very vocal um in opposition about
some of the Republican policies just as
she was about the Democratic policies.
>> Um AOC says she has a reason behind her
sudden switch.
>> Here's some tea for you.
>> Um MTG people are like, "Oh my god,
she's saying all these things like
what's gotten into her lately?" Oh, like
she's bucking against Trump. She's
bucking against the administration.
Marjorie Taylor Green wanted to run for
Senate in Georgia.
Uh she wanted to run for Senate earlier
this year in the state of Georgia. She
wanted to be the Republican nominee for
Senate.
Um so
she was gearing up for that statewide
race and Trump told her no.
Trump said no.
And the White House and Trump land shut
down Marjorie Taylor Green's personal
ambitions to run for Senate and she has
been on a revenge tour ever since.
>> Um, so that's the reason for the sudden
switch. It's It's weird hearing it the
behind the scenes cuz we're all like,
"Nah, they're probably doing this behind
the scenes. This is probably a political
move." And then hearing somebody like
AOC come out and say, "Yes, this is
definitely a political move." Th this is
one of the things I don't know whether I
love this or I hate this. Uh but the
social media age, the fact that we're
going to hear ultimately so much of this
stuff come out. Uh is God be lying if I
said I wasn't here for it. I want the
tea. Like give me all the tea.
>> When she like leaned in, I was like,
"Yeah, you go, girl. [laughter] You tell
me."
>> She did look good, too. Oh my goodness.
>> I'm not going to lie. She is very
attractive. And we can all be mad that
God saw it fit to uh make us care, but
we care. And so she knows how to play
it. God bless her.
>> How do we quantify that? I know you're
you're a Mr. Metric. You always want
KPIs to kind of steer us toward. Is
there a KPI we can put in in Congress? I
know we joke about the Warren Buffett
thing. Every time the deficit is too
much, everybody gets fired.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa. I am not joking. They
should do that.
>> That it is good. But everybody would get
fired. They That's like me. That's like
me advocating for policy at impact
theory. Like if our numbers don't get to
a million, I get fired. Like
>> they they will do whatever they need to
to get elected. And so they would cut
the budget
>> and they would just be like, "We're not
going to get reelected unless we trim
the budget
>> after we fire this whole way."
>> Look, they're never going to do it
because they don't want to put that
restriction on themselves. But in terms
of it generating the behavior that we
want, it would. And so that's one of
those this is how you get a small
government light touch. You put a
regulation like that that's just it's
blind. And so your favorite
>> uh politician may get caught in the
crossfire and it's like, "Yep, tough
break is what it is." And if you're
willing to live and die by those
policies, cool.
>> Out. So outside of the fiscal one, is
there something we can do where it's
the government has been shut down more
than this time? People need it. Like I
just feel like we're going to they're
going to end up signing something.
Somebody's going to cave and then in 6
months, a year, two years, whatever that
number is, we're going to be back here
again. Just like the debt sealing
conversation, every 18 months we're
having that argument. Is there something
mechanistically you think we should put
in that can kind of prevent that? Um,
I'm just trying to figure out how we can
fix Congress without firing everybody
through a dictatorship and going
straight Mau and just like killing and
reinstalling a bunch of other people.
Like,
>> I mean, there are things that you could
do mechanistically. I I I'll give you
ideas. It's entirely possible that the
Constitution blocks some of what I'm
going to say. So, this is where I'm not
a constitutional scholar, so it's it is
very possible that the things I'm going
to put forward are like a business guy
thinking through these problems, not a
politician. Uh so but you could do
things like uh you put dead hand
switches. So if the government is shut
down for more than x number of days,
budgets get cut in the following ways to
bring us back to solveny and the
government automatically reopens. Uh so
for instance, if you said something like
um every department is cut in equal
measure with the exclusion of the
department of defense and whatever pick
the entitlements with some sort of like
caveat, right? So, it's like if they're
over x% of the budget and it's not
wartime, then they can still be cut up
to this amount. Like, you'd have to get
pretty specific. But if you had a
deadhand switch like that, then unless
one of the parties is like, that's what
we actually want.
>> Um, and that's the only way that we can
get it, then nobody's going to let the
government go that long. Now,
admittedly, my biases are leaking like
crazy because my brain goes to what is a
dead hand switch that I would want? Uh
because that's also one of the things
that's happening right now at least at
the level of rumor is one of the things
that's being said is that there's a
certain number of days I forget how many
but it's not that many it's like 45 or
something and Trump is able to or the
administration whatever administration's
in power is able to start making
permanent layoffs.
>> And so it's entirely possible that the
Republicans are like well
>> we went either way. So either we rebuff
all of their desire to grow the budget
in ways that Republicans don't like,
>> extend the ACA, roll back bill cuts.
Yeah,
>> correct. Or we get all the way to we get
to start firing people and now we can
actually start tightening up the
government.
>> Those doge effects that we wanted to do
that were overturned can now be done
free. Freehand.
>> Exactly. And I'll be honest, I want to
see the size of government reduced. so
dramatically. So dramatically.
>> So yeah, I I am it. Look, doing it all
at once is probably a bad idea. I would
much rather in reality I would much
rather see it happen slowly, but if you
back me into a corner, I would rather
see it happen fast, deal with whatever
pain that causes over the next two or
three years, uh, and have it permanently
be smaller than it never happen. Uh, and
again, what is the metric? I'm steering
by the thriving middle class as defined
by just what percentage of Americans are
in a well- definfined middle class. Like
I'm not trying to pull a fast one. Like
the the middle class is everything. The
life is so much better when the middle
class is thriving. It's better for the
wealthy. It's better for obviously the
middle class. So, it's like, dude,
I don't understand how people have lost
sight of when somebody's in the middle
class and they earned their way there,
like the euphoric
vibes of like, not only did I get here,
but I earned my way here.
>> I think there's going to be some
permanent damage from this cuz just like
Secretary Duffy said, you know, a month
without a paycheck is hard for
everybody. Like 60% of Americans can't
afford a $1,000 um emergency bill. I
don't know how many percentage of
Americans can afford missing through
paychecks, but I feel like that number
is higher than 64%. Like they're going
to feel some reasonable pain a lot of
pain.
>> Yeah. If we extend to the 45 days and
then those people are now permanently
cut, let's say in a perfect world they
get back pay, but now they have lost
their job. Yeah.
>> Is this similar to the AI utopia that
we've been pitching as well where
there's just going to be a wath of pain?
Then hopefully they can find purpose and
the private sector can kind of help out
on the other side of that. But we're
just going to have to go through that
valley of the second and third year of
the Trump administration, we'll kind of
have bread lines and then by year four
everybody's back to humming. Like
because we can't act like, you know, 40%
of GDP disappearing is going to just
make like people just walk into Walmart
and get a job. Like there's going to be
some some pain there.
>> There's going to be some pain there. It
could have a psychological effect where
people lose confidence in the markets.
That is for sure. Mhm.
>> Um it is one of those where there is no
way out of the situation that we're in
right now without pain. There is no way.
There is no way. So now it just becomes
a question of how um effectively can we
deploy a beautiful deleveraging. And I
will say the chances that we do a
beautiful deleveraging aren't
approaching zero. They are zero.
>> Oh 100%. like it's never
>> we we psychologically do not have the
makeup in America to do that. So, um
we're in a position where beautiful
deleveraging is not going to work. Uh no
one's even going to try it. So, the only
thing that we're going to try right now
is growth. That's it. We're going to try
to grow our way out of this. And
remember that if the Democrat party gets
their way that they will accelerate the
demise because the demise is very simple
to map out. It is how much are you
deficit spending?
>> And when you say accelerate that demise,
like you're just saying they're going to
be spending more money at a faster rate
than the Democrats are.
>> So it is money we don't have.
>> Yeah. I'm trying to make it as
completely clear.
>> They're they're going to they're going
to deficit spend and they will deficit
spend even faster than the lunatic
Republican party. So now you have a
problem where you um you lose in both
ways. Just one way you lose a little bit
faster. So there is right now I I will
credit Trump with he's at least
delusional enough to believe that he can
grow his way out of this and he is
trying to grow his way out of this. Um I
don't see any way to grow your way out
of the problem unless you balance the
budget first. If he bal like if the big
beautiful bill had balanced the budget
and then he was doing all these things,
I would then actually become the
proTrump guy that people think I already
am because I'd be like, "Okay, we have a
balanced budget. So now we've stopped
all the bleeding. So we're no longer
damaging the middle class and the
working class
>> and we're going to try to grow GDP."
Now, I think the way that he would grow
GDP would not match my ideal scenario.
Uh but nonetheless, at least we would be
moving in the right direction. and that
122% of debt to GDP ratio would start
going down. So, if that were the case,
I'd be like, yes, he is unhinged. Yes,
he has authoritarian tendencies, but
he's at least bringing back a thriving
middle class. And by the way, I don't
think he has the authoritarian
the amplitude of authoritarian impulses
that people try to map him to. So, he's
I don't believe he's ever going to go
anywhere near down the path of Hitler. I
don't think
>> he's doing his best to try though with
the National Guard marching through the
parks and
>> I don't think so. It's not even close.
This is to look like it.
>> So, first of all, read Minecom.
>> Read Minecom and you're going TO BE
LIKE, "OH, I get it. There's a real
scale problem here."
>> Uh, and then second, look at the footage
of Hitler,
bro.
So if politics are a genre of rap, he
was gangster rap. Like it was wild.
>> He wasn't smiling and waving like he was
he was unbelievably
effective at deranging people and
getting them to get behind uh murderous
ideology. It was wild. And when you
listen to him, like uh imagine Nick
Fuentes, but like really good at like
big marches. Put Nick on meth and you're
maybe for real, he was a total speed
addict. Whether it was meth or not, I
don't I don't think it was meth, but he
was a speed addict. He was totally out
of his [ __ ] mind, but he had a very
clear unflinching
I know the way. I'm going to get you
guys all out of this. like it's got to
be me or nothing else. Um yeah, he he
was wild. He was looking at from the
beginning he was looking at Russia and
saying they're going to be our American
dream. So the Ukraine is going to be our
American West and Germans are going to
get to spread into the Ukraine and live
on the frontier and take over all of
that and it's going to be amazing. Now
listen, Trump says wacky [ __ ] about
Canada being the 51st state, but he's
not saying I can't fathom even in the
darkest of closed rooms that he's saying
to somebody that's our Canada is our new
American West. We're just going to
expand in.
>> He had his Greenland for going to take
everything. So Greenland is a military
installation and he always approaches it
from your country is doing you dirty. We
will do you well. Uh you're important to
us anyway.
>> These are bad things. I hated it when he
was doing it then. If he starts doing it
again now, I hate it. Uh what he's doing
in Venezuela is horrifying. I wish he
would just talk about [ __ ] China so
we could at least understand this is
just about China.
>> It's not about the oil, I don't think.
partly, I guess, but like the big play
is uh China can't have you. That's the
big play.
>> So now, at least if you were being
honest about what's going on, we could
say, "Okay, do we want to be bullies
like that?" And then I'm going to say,
"No, [ __ ] We don't get better
policies. Get better policies."
That's how we win people over. We don't
try to out China the world. We don't try
to strongarm and bully and all that
[ __ ] be savvy like you were in World
War I and World War II where you're
like, "We are the greatest manufacturer
on planet Earth. We know our worth. And
dear Europe, if you guys want to keep
killing each other, that's your
business. We'll fund the [ __ ] out of it.
We'll loan you money. We'll give you
weapons and we'll get rich off this
while you [ __ ] destroy yourselves."
If America wants to play that game, I'm
here for it. If America wants to be some
[ __ ] bully that's running around the
world slapping everybody around putting
$50 million bounties on Maduro's head,
uh, bro, that [ __ ] is [ __ ] wild west.
So, this is not me saying, "Oh, I dig. I
like the way."
>> No.
>> What I'm saying is he's not Hitler, so
he's got his own set of problems.
>> All right, let's jump over to the UK now
where Tommy Robinson uh beat the
terrorism charges. Um the judge was
blistering in his criticism of the
police, saying their testimony lacked
credibility and that they in fact
targeted Tommy for political reasons,
which is illegal. Incredible outcome. Um
this is a uh journalist from the Rebel
News over in the UK.
>> Ezra Levante for Rebel News. I'm
standing outside Westminster
Magistrate's Court. Huge news today.
Tommy Robinson aditted of charges under
the terrorism act. The judge blistering
in his criticism of the police, saying
they lacked credibility in their
testimony could not be relied on. In
fact, the judge went further saying that
he believed that the primary reason the
police arrested, detained, and
interrogated Sami in the first place was
because of his political views, which is
a protected characteristic in the UK.
That is, you can't go after someone just
because of their olive or their
religion. And in fact, the police had no
recollection of any questions they asked
about terrorism. The judge particularly
floods about that. It's very encouraging
for Tommy to be acquitted because
sometimes you feel like you have to give
up on the system that maybe Tommy can't
get a fair trial anywhere in the UK.
Today is proof that sometimes the system
does work.
>> Yeah, I have to say this is very
encouraging. Uh what I mean this is the
ultimate values debate is playing out
right now in Europe and um Tommy has
sort of become the fire brand at the
center of it all and seeing them go
after him, seeing them lose faith in
themselves as a nation as a British
identity, not a white identity but a
British identity is uh that's been hard.
I have so much family over there.
>> Yeah. So, um, yeah, I mean, we'll see. I
don't know if they're going to be able
to back out of this or not, but, um, it
is certainly this is a tick in the right
side for sure.
>> Um, as we were joking earlier at the
show, like you moving to Florida, things
like that. Uh, Lisa was in the chat
like, "Yeah, moving the UK is not an
option." So, even with family and ties
there, it's like I would never go there.
>> Yeah. The funny thing is, I doubt she
was saying that for political reasons.
When I met her, and none of this was on
our radar as something to be concerned
about at all. She was like, "Get me out
of here." [laughter] I was actually uh I
loved it because I I not only grew up in
America, I grew up on the west coast of
America in the Northwest. So, and not
even in a city in like a small like town
sort of. Um and it was going to London
for the first time was one of the
coolest experiences of my life. Like you
can never sort of reexperience that
first time. You see something truly
different. And I said I was like in
hysterics laughing because I was just so
excited. Uh and I was like being here is
like being on the set of Mary Poppins.
I'm like this is so wild to see all the
roofs and you know that look in that
like classic British way of just house
after house after house after house with
all the chimneys and they're all in a
line.
>> Uh was just so surreal. Um but it was
awesome. and I worked in central London.
So I was commuting into the center of
London every day and was just like this
is amazing public transport first of all
this was like um just one of the most
fascinating I was reading Clive Barker
at the time. Clive Barker is a British
author and he it was a book set in
London. Oh man, just like all of it was
so cool to me. And so I was like I don't
know if you want to like stay here for a
year I'd be open. And she's like
absolutely not. [laughter] She was like
we are leaving right now. So, as a Greek
girl, she just could not stand the
gloom.
>> So, for me, I grew up in Tacoma,
Washington. There's only two places on
planet Earth, this is one I probably
should fact check, but I read once from
a Lord knows if it's a um reliable
source, but I read once, there's only
two places in the world that have a
marine climate, and that's the Pacific
Northwest and London. And I was like,
"Oh, yeah." Like, this is so
recognizable being in the UK. I'm like,
"This is exactly what it felt like
growing up." She might be right. It
might be a little more sort of damp, but
Tacoma's very similar. Very similar.
>> Um, we talked about this at the
beginning of the show. A new subnano
night light trait wireless brain implant
just recorded activity and awake mice
for a year. That's crazy. No wires, no
battery. Light powers it. Um, light
transmits data. The brain machine merger
is near. So they kind of show that they
made this like they insert this nano
into the mice's brain. It has sending
signals to a computer in which they were
able to measure like processing power
and things like that. So I know we
already have um what Elon Musk is doing
and how he's already doing in Neurolink
and then already implanting it into
patients. Now we have this nano um
technology emerging as well. It seems
like we're going to have augmented brain
activity definitely next 5 10 years it
seems like.
>> Well, so you already have it. It's just
a question of safety, it's a question of
the risk. So, when you've got somebody
that's a quadripollegic and it's like,
well, either you are totally uh
inoperable and people have to do
everything for you or we can do this
risky thing and we can put electrodes in
your brain and we can allow you to uh
move a robotic arm, move uh play video
games, move a wheelchair, all that kind
of stuff. Obviously, if you're a
quadripollegic or you have ALS and
you're just deteriorating by the day,
it's like, "Yeah, I'll bypass all that
[ __ ] and go straight into
essentially living in a virtual world."
Now, you can live in the virtual world
or you can come back out and via the
virtual world live back in the physical
world with robotics and all that. That
is a nobrainer for anybody in that. Now,
what I think you're getting to is when
will a healthy human begin augmenting
themselves? That's not going to be in 5
to seven years. that's going to be in 10
to 15 years,
>> but it will happen and it will like if
you have a 5-year-old,
>> it might happen before they graduate
high school.
>> Wow.
>> So, it it's like when you get it in that
perspective of how near-term it is, it's
like, oh, whoa. Like, this is
transformative. Remember, Elon is
estimating AGI is coming in the next 24
to 36 months. Uh, AGI is effectively the
thing that is going to usher in um, ASI
because AGI would be you can have as
many humans as you want as as many as
you can produce the compute for, but you
would be able to bring on
call it
10 million um, Einsteines. What does the
world look like when you have 10 million
Einsteines, right? Like that's
>> Wow, that's wild.
>> What's the moat? Is it just waiting
until it catches on? Like
>> energy and compute for uh altering our
own brains
>> for healthy humans to say yes.
>> Safety and utility.
>> So right now cutting your brain open is
about the most dangerous thing you can
do. There's a saying in brain science is
like once air touches the brain, it's
never the same again.
>> So you want to keep that thing locked
down as tight as you can. Now as we get
better at that, like my mother-in-law
had brain surgery and I was just on a
loop. She's one of my favorite human
beings on Aloop. I was like once air
touches the brain, it's never the same
again. And I was just like expecting her
to be different. She is 100% the same.
And dude, literally thoughts and
prayers. Like, bro, I was like,
>> uh,
>> yeah, I I was beside myself with that
result. I was just so so so hoping for
uh so anyway, the years ago now and
she's normal. So hopefully that's a sign
that things are just getting better and
better and as more of these people get
these implants, I think it'll take a
good 5 to seven years for there to be
even several hundred of them. And so
that's why these kind of things like
getting the approvals and all that
stuff, that really does take time. But
you start getting out to 10 15 years,
you probably see the first small handful
of people augmenting their brains. Now
someone like me, when am I going to do
it? It's like firstgen tech is always
pretty weak. So it's like I don't want
to look like a cyborg. I just want to
feel like one. So I'm probably in the 20
to 30 year range where I start going
Yeah. 80 like you know
>> when a neural link 17 Pro comes out
that's not gravity.
>> Exactly. [laughter]
So I think most people will um wait
quite a ways but
>> it's really going to happen. All right
everybody till next time my friends be
legendary. See you guys on Friday.
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