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Guys, a tragic game of fafo unfolded
when a woman in Minneapolis was shot
dead by an ICE agent when she attempted
to flee in her SUV. This kind of stuff
drives me crazy. Video evidence shows
that she may have hit the officer with
her vehicle as he opened fire. The
shooting has ignited a national
firestorm over immigration enforcement,
federal power, and local control. It
happened on Wednesday morning, January
7th. 37year-old Renee Nicole Good, a US
citizen and mother of three, was shot
and killed by the ICE agent during a
large-scale operation in Minneapolis.
The operation targeted alleged fraud in
the small American community and
involved over 2,000 agents and had
nothing to do with Good. Apparently,
Good was simply someone who hates ICE
and was allegedly attempting to alert
locals to the raid. Now, for my money,
it is obvious that Good should not have
tried to flee, and it's obvious that the
officer should not have shot her. But
apparently, the agent that shot her,
identified as Jonathan Ross, had
previously been hit by another person
fleeing an immigration raid. He got his
arm pinned to the vehicle and was
hospitalized after being dragged by the
car for roughly 100 yards back in June
of 25. This whole thing is so
unnecessarily tragic and is a result of
the escalating tensions between
Americans. If people want to know what a
modern civil war looks like, it looks
like this [ __ ] Barricades have gone up
in Minneapolis, creating autonomous
zones reminiscent of the Chaz in
Seattle. That didn't [ __ ] work out.
These aren't going to work out. Everyone
right now is picking a side. And
everyone is so convinced that they're
right. They believe that the side of the
political aisle that they didn't vote
for is completely illegitimate to the
point that they will obstruct and resist
and put themselves in harm's way. Now
listen, we have a second amendment for a
reason and that reason is to resist a
tyrannical government. So if Good felt
like she was prepared to pay with her
life to resist the government, so be it.
But that means that she and I'm sure
many others have completely given up on
democracy. And I for one do not think
that we are anywhere near that. This
whole thing is just absolutely
heartbreaking. After watching the video
like a dozen times, I do not think the
officer should have shot, but it is
ultra high risk to flee in a vehicle
when federal agents have their gun drawn
and are surrounding your car. What are
you doing? Put your hands up. Comply.
Use the media. Use the political system
to have your voice be heard. If people
really think we have already crossed a
line where you need to resist the
federal government, we are in for a
world of hurt. You don't have to look
far around the world to see how bad
things can get. So, I would say this is
a time everybody needs to calm down.
Now, I get it. This incident is going to
be hotly debated for years to come, but
federal officials, including Homeland
Security Secretary Christy Gnome and
President Trump, say the shooting was
selfdefense. They claim Good weaponized
her vehicle to run over Ross. And I'm
telling you, looking at the video
footage, it's going to be easy to make
that case. It'll be debated, but there's
enough there. They're even going so far
as to call it an act of interference or
even domestic terrorism. Local witnesses
characterize the story differently, of
course. They say good pose no immediate
threat. I would agree with that. Uh the
street was icy and her movement seemed
like an attempt to leave. That seems
very obvious to me rather than an
attack. Experts note that conflicting
orders were being given by the officers
surrounding the vehicle. That's going to
add to the confusion. They were reaching
into the vehicle without clear cause.
That can escalate situations
unnecessarily. This all just seems like
one big cluster [ __ ] But this is
exactly how these things get out of
control. Now, we're going to see how
intense the fallout gets, but protests
have erupted nationwide with thousands
marching in the rain, chanting against
ICE, and some even barricading streets.
If you guys haven't heard the stuff
coming out of uh New York, we have a
clip. We'll play it in a second. Uh but
calling for Christy Gnome to be hung,
saying save a life, kill ICE. I mean, it
is escalating in a very dark way.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls has been
vocal disputing the federal narrative as
propaganda. uh and he's calling it
verifiably false. He called the ICE
presence a reckless mobilization that's
not keeping people safe and demanded
state involvement in the probe. When the
FBI took over the investigation and cut
out the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal
Apprehension, Walls expressed deep doubt
about a fair outcome, saying it feels
very, very difficult that we will get a
fair outcome. He even put the National
Guard on notice as a precaution and
urged the Trump administration to leave
Minnesota alone and give us a break.
This is a dangerous escalation, boys and
girls. Wall says his stance is about
protecting his state, ensuring
transparency, but many see it as
intentional misdirection from the
massive fraud that is in fact being
perpetrated in his state. And it is
entirely possible that he is involved in
it in some way. We will see. that needs
to play out in a court of law, but is
not looking good. And in a divided
country, words like what he's speaking
can be interpreted not only as stoking
division, but many are accusing walls of
fullblown insurrection.
We're going to follow the story closely
uh as the investigation unfolds into
whether or not this was a justified
shooting. Right now, you've got VP JD
Vance saying that not only is this
justified, but that the ICE agent is
protected by absolute immunity because
he was acting in service of his role as
a federal agent. Now, from what I can
tell doing some research, that is an
overstatement to say the least. Legally
speaking, absolute immunity is a known
term and it is a total shield from
lawsuits or charges. Usually for high
level officials like presidents or
judges, as we saw in the recent Supreme
Court ruling uh for federal law
enforcement agents like ICE agents, it's
what's known as qualified immunity,
which is very different than absolute
immunity. And that means that Ross is
protected from civil suits if his
actions didn't violate a clearly
established right that any reasonable
officer would know. In criminal cases,
the supreme the supremacy clause can
block state prosecutions if the act was
necessary and proper to federal duties,
but it is not automatic or absolute. So
experts like legal scholar Steve Vladic
is pushing back on Vance's claims on X,
saying that his use um Vance's use of
absolute is misleading because state
charges from Minnesota could still
happen if evidence shows uh that
excessive force was used. Former
prosecutor Dave Arinberg told CNN that
qualified immunity might hold in court,
but calling it absolute ignores nuances
like video evidence of conflicting
commands being given by the different uh
the different agents that were
surrounding goods vehicle and that there
was no clear imminent threat. No charges
have been filed yet, but the DOJ is
reviewing.
So, man, this one this one's going to
get wild. People are looking for that
spark. I want to jump over to Jessica
Tarlov on Fox News where she actually
broke down what immunity meant um and
kind of reading what is a justified
shooting.
>> So she's in such severe crisis that she
can be polite in traffic and say you go
ahead and then you hear her actually
audibly saying I'm pulling out, right?
She she signals exactly what she's
doing. She starts to move forward and
everyone should go and watch. The New
York Times has is about three and a half
minutes of footage coming from every
angle and this is what they brought up
to President Trump when they were
meeting with him last night when he said
uh you know the officer the brave
officer and after he tweeted I I it's
hard to believe that the officer is
alive when he walked away completely
unscathed. We can see that on video as
well but the footage contradicts the
administration on almost every level of
what they've said. Renee Good waving the
vehicle by the officer was to the side
of the car when he drew the gun. He
leaned over the hood for the first shot.
You can see that on the angle, too, that
he fired two more shots at arms length
on a 90 degree angle. And it almost
doesn't matter actually what she was
doing because she didn't have another
weapon. D according to DOJ policy, which
they should be in compliance with. It
says deadly force may not be used solely
to prevent the escape of a fleeing
suspect. Firearms must be discharged at
a moving vehicle unless a person is
threatening deadly force by other means
than the vehicle. And no other means of
defense exist, including moving out of
the path. He could clearly move out of
the path because he did. And that's why
he was unscathed in this. I don't know
why it wasn't good enough for Secretary
Gnome or the president or the vice
president to say this is a tragedy. We
need to investigate this. Does this kind
of change your interpretation of it or
have
>> This doesn't change my interpretation of
this at all. That is my interpretation
of this. He should not have fired. That
is so obvious watching this over and
over and over.
>> Now, the argument is going to be made.
Listen, this was a dude that was drugged
down the road in another incident just
like this. So, he knows how deadly this
can be. And I get that. And this is one
of those things where th this is a
tragedy. I am not clocking this guy as
just somebody who's out here looking for
any excuse to shoot somebody. Now look,
investigate the guy. Maybe he does have
a long-standing history of using his
firearm inappropriately, in which case,
[ __ ] him, go to jail.
>> But watching the video and knowing that
this is somebody who's been in another
altercation with a vehicle like this,
got his arm pinned, they drug him 100
yards down the road, I get why this guy
would uniquely think, "No, no, no. This
really is a weapon. She's weaponizing
her vehicle against me. So my critique
to her is first of all, this is a
federal agency. Once you decide that
you're going to stand in defiance of a
federal agency, which by the way, as
citizens, we should all reserve the
right to stand in defiance of a federal
agency. But we need to understand what
that means. You are saying, "I'm willing
to put my life on the line,
>> and I believe this thing is so
justified, and the government is so
unjust that I'm prepared to die for
this." And I'm just saying I think she
misread that situation so grotesqually
that have your voice heard a thousand%.
Use the political machinery a thousand%.
You still live in a country that has
freedom of speech. You are going to have
your opportunity to say the things that
you need to say. But as a mother of
three to put your life at risk at this
stage of what is early endings from
where I'm sitting of an actual civil war
in slow motion. Uh it's not time. It's
not time. Look, there are lines that the
government could cross where I'd be
like, "Yep, this is what the Second
Amendment is for." I'm just saying we're
not there yet. Democracy has not broken
down yet. Do I get nervous? Yes. But
man, this is the kind of tragedy that
plays out when you're like, "This is the
moment. This is where I'm like, I don't
have to listen to you. I can drive my
car off if I want to." I'm just like,
"Listen, I have been roughed up by the
police. I know what that moment is like.
I know the adrenaline. I I'm sure I've
told this story before, but speedrun uh
was in a friend's apartment. She was
gone. I was alone. Police knock on the
door. They say they got a 911 call from
inside the apartment. I know that can't
be true because I'm alone. Uh
nonetheless, they they don't battering
ram the door down, but I tried to like
peek out to see if it was really cops.
They smash the door, send me flying,
grab me, throw me up against the bar,
hands behind my backs, guns drawn. You
better hope that everybody in this
apartment's okay. like the whole nine.
>> And what did I do? I complied the [ __ ]
out of their commands. I was like,
"Listen, I know they're wrong."
>> And yes, does it hurt to be uh thrown
around, have your arms yanked? Is it
scary to have guns drawn? Yes. But do
you [ __ ] comply? Yes. You deal with
like whatever this is going to be down
the road if I'm like, "Hey, everything
they did was wrong and bad and I'm going
to pursue it." Mhm.
>> But Jesus man, you don't drive off. So
yeah, th this is where people you turn
the engine off, you chill, and it's like
if you're getting conflicting reports,
keep your hands visible and empty. And
so this one is just stupid. It's stupid
all around. Clearly
>> from where I'm sitting, a bad shot.
>> I think first off, it's a tragedy cuz
there's a child that's now orphaned. And
as a father, I empathize with that 110%.
>> And even if she didn't have kids, it's a
loss of life. It
>> But I just want to It's important to
start there, though, because I think a
temporary situation has now led a
permanent This kid's life has changed
forever now.
>> Ever. And I think she has three kids.
>> So that's the first thing before we even
get into the minutia of the video. The
second thing is too often times we we
expect the victim to be more composed
than the trained professional. It is
your job. You signed up. You got the 50k
signing bonus. You decided you want to
become a part of ICE agents. You decided
you want to go and raid neighborhoods.
That's completely fine. You have that
jurisdiction. But it's also your uh
responsibility to deal with your PTSD.
It's your responsibility to deal with
your itchy chinger figure. It doesn't
matter what video you you show me. It
doesn't matter what angle it is. To kill
somebody who's an American citizen while
you are an immigration enforcement
officer doesn't make sense.
>> To kill an immigrant, to kill an illegal
immigrant. I'm crazy.
>> Yeah. But at least if it was like it was
a bunch of illegals running around and I
had to
>> maybe I can twist my arm. I'm like,
"Okay, kind of. Okay, you were scared.
Maybe this is don't
>> bad shoot." I want to be very clear that
to me I'm not part of the investigation.
I'm a guy commenting on the internet.
Cool. Maybe in the fullness of time we
learn something and we're all like,
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, great shot." Right
now, this looks like a terrible shot. He
shouldn't have taken it. Absolutely
horrible. Uh, deep problem.
My PSA is to all of us citizens,
>> pick your moment carefully when you
decide that you were going to resist the
federal government and say that they are
an an unjust force because that has real
consequences
>> and because I worry that we could at
some point we're not there yet, I don't
think. Yay. Let's make sure that we all
calm down uh and that we never find
ourselves there. But there are things
the government could do where it's like,
"Yeah, and now we do have to stand up."
So, I worry that you've got people that
don't really think about the
consequences. The wife gets out of the
car, she's filming it all. They're not
thinking you're about to get shot and
killed. Uh they're thinking this is good
content. They're thinking that we're
just and you're wrong. And they're not
thinking this is insanely dangerous.
Mhm.
>> At least that's how I'm reading it.
Maybe they knew it was dangerous. Maybe
they've talked endlessly about no, we we
can't let the tyrannical US government
be like this anymore. We need to start a
revolution. Maybe that's where they're
at. But woo man, like when you take that
step, you really better be committed
because when you get into dangerous
situations, even as unjust as this
shooting seems to me,
>> um it didn't have to play out. She could
have made her point without putting
herself in this kind of danger. Again,
that's not me letting the cop off the
hook or saying that this is all her
fault. I'm just saying I beg of
everybody that can hear my voice right
now. You can't control the cops, but you
can control yourself.
>> So, given that you can control yourself
and I identify as one of you, that's
where all of my words are going to go. I
don't identify as a federal agent. I
don't think that I'm going to be able to
sway the federal agency,
>> but people that hear my voice right now
can hear, hey, know what your line is.
Where where does it become second
amendment time? If we're not there,
don't put yourself in this kind of
situation because it gets so dangerous
and I don't think people are being
honest about how dangerous these
situations get. And so, yeah, just
please, boys and girls, be careful.
>> This is America. The Trayvon Martin
thing. George Zimmerman followed a kid,
beat him up and said my life is
threatened, right? And he got off.
>> So the whole like stand your ground like
he's gonna get off. He's not gonna get
prosecuted. This is gonna be a nothing
burger in two weeks. My frustration now
is that no matter what happens is
always, oh, law enforcement, listen to
them. They're fine. Lean back in your
chair. And for certain situations, I can
say that if they were in the south side
of Chicago and a bunch of gang members
were firing back, then oh yeah, I'm not
saying throw out pepper spray and tase
and say, "Hey guys, put your guns down
so I can come arrest you." I can
understand if there was a a bunch of
illegal people flying in all different
directions and they were all former gang
members from Venezuela and you have to
get a little bit physical. I can
understand all these situations, but I
don't see anywhere in this video that
you can kill people. Like it just it
didn't make sense to me.
>> But we both agree. So I want to make
sure because I feel like you keep coming
back to that argument.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh we're on the same page.
>> So now I think the difference is that
you're like she should have just stopped
and waited to comply for all these
things
>> clearly.
and only
but in that state puts themselves in
this situation and doesn't comply
>> in that statement. I can equate it to
she shouldn't have had a miniskirt
that's why you the guy followed you into
the alley and took advantage of you and
I think that it's like victim blaming
like she should have did this thing when
she didn't have the gun she would let
two cars pass. She was about to then
drive off because she let the cars pass
that was blocking. So, she completed,
she stopped obstructing at that point,
was ready to kind of get out of the way,
but then she still got shot.
>> Have you heard about those people? Oh,
god, I forget the couple. It was
something like um they spent all this
time raising money for people. Forgive
me if I get the countries wrong.
>> Uh raising money for people in
Afghanistan. And um then they actually
went to Afghanistan at one point and
tried to hike across and they were
murdered.
>> I haven't heard it, but I got speed. So
roughly what maybe it's not Afghanistan
but an equally uh high-risk country
that's very dangerous.
>> Um at what point do we go hey probably
shouldn't have gone there.
>> Get the intentions get that you want to
show people that there are people too
but also reality is it's a hyper
dangerous area and something bad might
happen to you. I'm not trying to victim
blame but I am trying to say you have
dramatically increased your risk of a
bad thing happening to you by going and
doing that. I'm not saying it's okay
that they did it. I'm just saying, damn,
like there there are situations that you
can do a risk assessment of ahead of
time and go, is this the right risk
assessment? So, I want to make sure that
you and I don't become ships passing in
the night. I'm trying to pin you down on
policy because at some point this has to
be written as a set of words that can be
read in a court of law. And if the set
of words that can be read in the court
of law are only pull your gun when you
feel like your life is truly in danger,
you're going to get some percentage of
these shootings. And this is why people
get so wound up. So, uh, it's never
going to stop because it is a high-risk
situation with humans wielding deadly
weapons. You put those things together
and there will be some percentage of
people getting shot. Now, can we improve
it over time with better training,
better selection, paying people better?
Yeah, probably. And I'm certainly not
saying that what we have is the peak of
what this is ever going to be. But I'm
saying when you put people in this kind
of situation, it is it is a very
high-risk situation. And so some
percentage of the time people are going
to get shot. Now the one to me that is
the most horrifying of all time and it
[ __ ] haunts my dreams is the guy um
something Tempa or something like that.
And uh he's in a hallway and there's
like three cops have guns drawn on him.
Oh god, we could probably find this. But
um in fact, if anybody in the chat knows
who I'm talking about and they were
telling him like like really weird
things like lift your legs, put your
legs down, put your head behind your
head and turn it all around. It was so
confusing. I was listening and I'm just
like [ __ ] watching a YouTube video
and I was like [ __ ] What are they
asking him to do?
>> And he moves his hand too fast and they
shoot him dead.
>> And I was like, god damn. Like that [ __ ]
was so terrifying because he was
mistaken for somebody else. Like it
didn't have anything to do with him. He
doesn't even know what's going on. There
was no way for him to avoid that
situation cuz he was just walking down a
[ __ ] hall and all of a sudden they're
looking for somebody else. They come
across him
>> and he's trying to a [ __ ] like like I
don't know what you want me to do but
I'm really freaking out. He was laying
face down when they shot him.
>> Absolutely wild. So it's one of those
where okay if we know that this kind of
thing can happen anywhere just wrong
place at the wrong time. Don't put
yourself into an even worse situation.
I'm not trying to shame her, blame her.
I'm just saying we as a country are
increasingly deciding where the line is
for the Second Amendment. I understand
this is not the argument you're making
and it's very difficult because we're
>> both very um animated about two separate
issues that are in some way colliding
right here. Uh my thing is
unfortunately we're at a position where
people are making a decision
>> Mhm. as to whether they think the US
government has crossed over into
illegitimacy.
Because of that, there's going to be
escalating
violence against agents of the federal
government, some outright violence.
>> Uh obviously, we've already seen um I
think it was in DC, the um I don't know
what agency they were a part of, but
they got shot.
>> Uh we've seen attacks on ICE all over
the place. So this is escalating. It is
only going to escalate further. And so
my PSA is
>> uh these things can turn deadly very
fast. So make sure that you're willing
to that it matters so much to you that
you're actually willing to put your life
on the line. Otherwise, comply, stay
calm. These things are scary and
dangerous by their nature. I do not
trust anybody's training. Um period.
Um.